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Football / team going forward
« on: September 05, 2015, 04:43:17 PM »
With the playoffs against Haiti the world cup qualifiers and the 2016 Copa Centenario if there and there  is no fitness issues Steven Hart selections will be interesting to watch especially if the new  foreign players enter into the team. Lot of current team members will have to up other game.

GK-Jan Michael Williams,Marvin Phillips, Cleon John ,Adrian Foncette

RB- Justin Hoyte,Daniel Cyrus, Shannon Gomez, ,Sheanon Williams

CB- Carlyle Mitchell,Ryan Innis,SeonPower, Yohance Marshall,Sheldon Batteau, R.Abu baka,Mikel Willams

LB- Aubrey David, Robert Primus, Curtis Gonzales, Gavin Hoyte

DM- Kevan George, Andre Bocaud, Leston Paul, Deane James

CM- Kaleem Hyland, John Bostock, Sean De Silva, Keon Daniel

AM- Ataullah Guerra, Kevin Molino, Nick De Leon ,Keron Cummings
 
LM- J.Jones,H.Hector ,L.Garcia, R.Winchester

RM- L.Peltier,C.Cato , T.Cesar, M.Joseph

FW- K.Jones , J.Glenn, K.Corbin ,S.Winchester, W.Plaza

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Football / my team for final round of Caribbean cup
« on: October 14, 2014, 09:49:46 AM »
My team

GK-Willams,Phillips

DEF- RB. g.hoyte,Cyrus
          CB.  Mitchell, primus,bateau,Marshall
           LB. Jones,David

MID- CM/DM. Hyland,George, boucaud,guerra,molino,M.Joseph
         RW/LW-  peltier,hector, Cato,Levi Garcia

FWD- Jones,shanon Winchester
 
Baka Caesar walker(dallasFc) hoyte Winchester and members of de under 20 teams for gold cup

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Cricket Anyone / airtel
« on: June 10, 2011, 11:29:34 PM »
does trinidad still have to qualify for the airtel

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Cricket Anyone / Edwards and Taylor not among World Cup probables
« on: December 21, 2010, 08:53:41 AM »

Legspinners Devendra Bishoo and Anthony Martin, fast bowler Jason Holder, and batsmen Jonathan Carter and Kirk Edwards are the uncapped players named in West Indies' preliminary 30-man squad for the 2011 World Cup.

The list also included former captain Ramnaresh Sarwan and wicketkeeper Denesh Ramdin, both of whom were excluded from the recent tour of Sri Lanka. Fast bowlers Fidel Edwards and Jerome Taylor, who have just begun their comeback from long-term injuries, were not included. Brendan Nash is the only player on a WICB central retainer contract left out of the mix.

The squad will be trimmed by half for the tournament, which starts on February 19 in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and India.

Squad: Lionel Baker, Adrian Barath, Carlton Baugh Jr, Sulieman Benn, Dave Bernard Jr, Tino Best, Devendra Bishoo, Darren Bravo, Dwayne Bravo, Jonathan Carter, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Kirk Edwards, Chris Gayle, Ryan Hinds, Jason Holder, Anthony Martin, Nikita Miller, Nelon Pascal, Kieron Pollard, Kieran Powell, Denesh Ramdin, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Andre Russell, Darren Sammy, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shane Shillingford, Devon Smith, Gavin Tonge, Devon Thomas.

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Football / does the TFFF really care
« on: November 28, 2010, 07:27:43 PM »
does the TFFF really care bout football or making money?how soon before they hire a new coach and will they invest in friendly matches

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Football / can the usa win the gold cup outside of america
« on: November 18, 2010, 01:34:24 PM »
this aint world cup qualifying,dis is a tournament.when we host the Caribbean cup even with a poor squad we still reach far(semis and finals), cant recall of hand but when we go to these tournaments away we struggle.the 12th man helps.next question can Trinidad host a competition as big as the gold cup   

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Cricket Anyone / disgrace
« on: October 29, 2010, 08:47:05 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_Legends_of_Cricket >:(



lara 34  >:( >:( >:( >:(
espn lose credit in my book

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Cricket Anyone / Gayle turns down central contract
« on: September 30, 2010, 06:49:27 AM »
Chris Gayle, the West Indies captain, has turned down a central contract with the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB). Gayle is the third prominent West Indies player to opt out of a central contract, after allrounders Kieron Pollard and Dwayne Bravo did the same earlier this month.

"Chris Gayle and Dwayne Bravo, who were both offered A contracts, and Kieron Pollard, who was offered a C contract, have indicated to the WICB that they were not minded to take up the offers," confirmed a press release from the board. "The WICB has written to Gayle, Bravo and Pollard seeking details of the issues which caused them not to take up the offer in an attempt to understand same and so that the issues can be addressed for future contract offers."

The contracts on offer had required players to make themselves available for the West Indies team at all times, something that the three players - all of whom have forged prominent careers in domestic Twenty20 competitions including the IPL - were reluctant to do.

The board release subsequently confirmed that Gayle, Pollard and Bravo would be available for selection in the West Indies team if they meet the board's criteria which makes it mandatory for players to participate in regional tournaments, unless under "exceptional circumstances", to be in contention. It also confirmed that possession of a retainer contract is not a pre-requisite for selection to the West Indies team.

According to the criteria that was outlined in August, those players seeking selection into a particular format will have to make themselves available for participation in the corresponding regional version - the first-class four-day competition, the 50-over one-day tournament or the Caribbean T20.

The WICB had offered 25 players contracts on August 31 - ten of them were development contracts worth $25,000 - and gave the players until September 10 to accept them. If any player chose not to accept the contract, the board said it would make alternate offers. Twenty-three of the players have now signed their contracts, 15 on full retainers across three bands, plus eight further names on Developmental contracts.

"The WICB is delighted to have a full complement of players on Central Retainer and Developmental contracts," said WICB CEO Dr. Ernest Hilaire. "We see this as a clear demonstration by the players themselves that they are committed to working with the WICB towards the development and success of West Indies cricket.

"The WICB is encouraged by the overwhelmingly positive response from the players and we look forward to working very closely with each of them in the coming year," Dr. Hilaire added.

"Gayle, Bravo and Pollard have each indicated to the WICB that they remain committed to West Indies cricket and are available for selection to the West Indies team," continued the statement. "The WICB appreciates the stated commitment to West Indies cricket."

West Indies contracted players Shivnarine Chanderpaul - A, Sulieman Benn - B, Darren Sammy - B, Kemar Roach - C, Brendan Nash - C, Adrian Barath - C, Darren Bravo - C, Shane Shillingford - C, Nikita Miller - C, Devon Smith - C, Ravi Rampaul - C, Nelon Pascal - C, David Bernard Jr - C, Andre Russell - C, Carlton Baugh Jr - C

Developmental contracts Kirk Edwards, Gavin Tonge, Andre Fletcher, Chadwick Walton, Devendra Bishoo, Assad Fudadin, Imran Khan, Kevin Stoute

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Cricket Anyone / The best of them all: Sachin-Ponting-Lara?
« on: September 24, 2010, 10:16:22 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiEzgQ143Ac

most of the interviews or discussion always have a slight edge to tendulkar   



lara could change a match stay focus for long periods tendulkar was reliable 

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Cricket Anyone / does micheal holding hate trinis
« on: September 17, 2010, 06:00:08 AM »
However, until he repeats this kind of violence against international attacks, and consistently, there will remain a question mark against him. Until then, his critics like Michael Holding who said "Pollard is not a cricketer" will not be satisfied. And rightly so. But before he does that, we can all enjoy his muscled hits and the nonchalance that accompanies it. Pollard reduces batting to its most basic form: See the ball and give it a whack. It's how the kids try to play. Pollard gives us the same joy; he takes us back to our childhood.

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at Cricinfo

we all know bout lara

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What about Track & Field / pure hate and act normal
« on: August 23, 2008, 07:15:24 AM »
while everybody is all happy for the Jamaicans some want to join up with them for a British west Indies i am sorry i can be happy for them none of them.if we was in them position all them medals do you honestly think they would be happy for us.Brian Lara was the best cricketer the world but still they hate,i don't care if we second to last in the world once them last.we have more money better facilities but still they dominate us.love my athletes everyone but some went to compete and some went on vacation but anyway f**k that f**k the Jamaicans and big up Trinidad and Tobago

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Jokes / funny names and nicknames
« on: May 25, 2008, 10:01:52 AM »
saw this de other day a dude name JACK MEIOFF

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Jokes / Fw: Lie Detection
« on: May 22, 2008, 04:08:55 PM »
It’s a while I haven’t came across a classic joke like this…Ha Ha
 
 
John was a salesman's delight when it  came to any kind of unusual

gimmick.  His wife Marsha had long ago given up trying to get him to change.  One

day John came home with another one of his unusual purchases.  It was a  robot

that John claimed was actually a lie detector.   It was about 5:30 that afternoon when Tommy, their 11 year old

son, returned home from school.  Tommy was over 2 hours late.

 'Where have you been?  Why are you over 2 hours late getting home?'  asked John.

 'Several of us went to the library to work on an extra credit project,' said Tommy.

 
The robot then walked around the table and slapped Tommy, knocking him completely out of his chair.
'Son,' said John, 'this robot is a lie detector, now tell us where you really were after school.'
 'We went to Bobby's house and watched a movie.' said Tommy.

  'What did you watch?' asked Marsha.

 'The Ten Commandments.' answered Tommy.

 The robot went around to Tommy and once again slapped him, knocking  him off his chair once more.

 With his lip quivering, Tommy got up, sat down and said, 'I am sorry  I lied.  We really watched a tape called Sex Queen.'

 
'I am ashamed of you son,' said John.  'When I was your age, I never lied to my parents.'

  The robot then walked around to John and delivered a whack that nearly knocked him out of his chair.

 Marsha doubled over in laughter, almost in tears and said, 'Boy, did  you ever ask for that one!  You can't be too mad with Tommy.

After all, he is your son!'

  With that the robot immediately walked around to Marsha and

slapped her right off her chair.

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Jokes / Do I know you?
« on: April 17, 2008, 07:54:23 PM »
A man is in a queue at Tesco and sees this busty blonde staring at him, he can't believe she is staring at him, then she starts waving.

"Excuse me do I know you?" he asks.
"Yes I think you are the father of one of my kids" she says.

The man thinks back and remembers his one act of infedelity and says "f**king hell are you the bird I shagged on me stag do, whilst your mate whipped me and your other mate stuck a brush up my arse?"

"No" she replies "I am your son's English teacher!"

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Football / Remember dis game.
« on: March 23, 2008, 10:45:47 AM »
Reggae Boyz go down in Trinidad
Written by CANA


Monday, March 29 1999

Trinidad and Tobago beat World Cup finalists Jamaica 2-0 in their friendly football international at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Goals on either side of halftime by Trinidad captain David Nakhid and Stern John highlighted an exciting match between the two Caribbean football giants in front of a capacity crowd of 28,000.

Both goals were created by playmaker Russell Latapy, who campaigns for Scottish first division leaders Hibernian.

A well placed corner from the right in the 23rd minute found Nakhid, who rose above the Jamaican defence to put away a fierce header past diving goalkeeper Aaron Lawrence.

Then in the 53rd minute, Latapy's probing free-kick from outside the 18-yard box was scored by last year's Caribbean Cup MVP Stern John, leaving Donovon Ricketts, who replaced Lawrence, with no chance.

The Trinidad victory was sweet revenge against the Reggae Boyz, who last year unseated them as Caribbean Cup champions at the same venue.

Both teams are preparing for the qualifying rounds of the World Cup Finals in Japan and South Korea in 2002, and for the Copa Caribe tournament in June, where they are both in the same group.

The match also marked the return of several Trinidad overseas-based stars who were playing together for the first time in several years.

Among them was the current leading scorer in the English premier league Dwight Yorke of Manchester united. He was closely marked throughout the game by Fabian Davis and Clifton Waugh and failed to score.

Teams:

Trinidad - Shaka Hislop, Shurland David (Reynold Carrington), Marvin Andrews, Anthony Rougier, Sherwyn Julien, Clint Marcelle (Arnold Dwarika), Russell Latapy (Travis Mulraine), David Nakhid, Jerren Nixon, Stern John, Dwight Yorke (Irasto Knights).

Jamaica - Aaron Lawrence (Donovon Ricketts), Ian Goodison, Fabian Davis, Chris Dawes, Clifton Waugh, Ricardo Gardner, Winston Griffiths, Garth Peterkin, Theodore Whitmore, Ricardo Fuller (Ainsworth Kerr), Paul Hall (David Johnson).



have any of our present players ever played against the jamaican in an international game can any one help me with dis

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Football / addias uniform
« on: February 07, 2008, 05:18:19 PM »
just wondering don't our deal with addias end dis year if so do you think they will resign a new deal or kick us to the curve givin the fact we havent done much since the world cup and the state of our football

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Football / Jabloteh gets Harlem test in Toyota Classic prelims
« on: October 18, 2007, 03:16:11 PM »
Thursday, 18 October 2007 
 
By Randy Bando...


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TT Pro League leaders San Juan Jabloteh will probably face the toughest 2007 Toyota Classic Cup preliminary task after Wednesday’s draw at the Hasely Crawford Stadium VIP Lounge.

While they may not be early favorites of the tournament, the San Juan based team is current League leaders and they would meet the 2007 Super League knockout champions Harlem Strikers on Friday in the group stages of this year’s tournament.

Six Super League clubs; Harlem Strikers FC, WASA FC, Defence Force FC(SL), Joe Public FC(SL), Angostura Phoenix FC and M&M Harvard FC have all earned their places into the Toyota Trinidad Ltd sponsored tournament in its third year.

They would add to the ten TT Pro League clubs; San Juan Jabloteh, Caledonia AIA, Joe Public(PL), Defence Force(PL), W Connection, North East Stars, United Petrotrin, Superstar Rangers, Police FC, Tobago United for a total of sixteen(16) participants in the knockout tournament themed “We are all winners”.   

Marketing Officer of Toyota Trinidad Ltd, Gillian Demming explained, “We believe in giving back to our community and not only in the sport of football. But giving sponsorship to this tournament we are being part of the development of our future national players and players who are about to ply their trade outside of Trinidad and Tobago,” she said.

 
Demming released a $75,000 payout for this year’s tournament in which the winner would take away an improved $35,000, five more than the 2006 winners purse; second place gets $20,000; third place $10,000 and fourth place $5,000.

 
The MVP of the tournament will run away with $2,000—Most Goals player will receive a cash reward of $1,000 while an MVP per game will get $500. All this and more added to the list of giveaways by Toyota. 

 
The Toyota Trinidad Ltd Marketing Manager further added that her company has pumped an additional $2,500 in the TT Pro League’s drive to further develop players in their ‘Player Development Seminar’ series.

 
The Toyota Classic Cup tournament structure is recognized by four groups themed by car brands produced Toyota.

 
Group A (Avensis) headed by Defence Force(PL), Group B (Camry) headed by San Juan Jabloteh, Group C (Prado) headed by Caledonia AIA and Group D (Rav 4) headed by Joe Public(PL).

 
The two year old tournament has been won by W Connection in 2005 and United Petrotrin in 2006 but never by a Super League club.

 
But TT Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene predicting a very exciting tournament told the gathering at the Hasely Crawford Stadium VIP Lounge, “I expect a very good showing by the Super League clubs this year.”

 
He also stated that over the next few weeks fans would be treated to an exciting tournament just as the Courts Pro Bowl earlier this year and the recently concluded First Citizens Cup which attracted a mammoth crowd turnout in the final.

 
Other clashes include North East Stars against Tobago United (Camry Group), Defence Force against Angostura Phoenix and United Petrotrin against Police FC (Avensis Group), Caledonia AIA against M&M Harvard and 2006 Toyota Classic finalists Superstar Rangers against 2007 Super League champions WASA (Prado Group) and in the (Rav4 Group) Joe Public are against their Super League counterpart Joe Public(SL) and 2007 Courts Pro Bowl and First Citizens Cup champions W Connection will face Super League club Defence Force.

 
AVENSIS                  CAMRY                        PRADO                          RAV4 
Defence Force                  San Juan Jabloteh     Caledonia AIA          Joe Public(PL) 
United Petrotrin               North East Stars        Superstar Rangers      W Connection 
Police FC                         Tobago United          WASA FC(SL)            Defence Force(SL) 
Angostura Phoenix FC(     Harlem Strikers(SL)      M&M Harvard(SL)       Joe Public(SL) 


 

Team (1) will play Team (4), while Team (2) will play Team (3) of each group. The winner of each match will progress to the next round.
 
 

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Football / caribbean teams in WQ
« on: October 18, 2007, 09:37:11 AM »
judging on the performances in matches,the way their federation handles its business and how their youth football stand

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Football / new t&t coach
« on: September 25, 2007, 06:15:22 AM »
do you think that mourinho would make a great t&t coach and help with the development in the local game? :-\

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Jokes / Bet with blond
« on: May 10, 2007, 07:53:48 PM »
 


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Category: 32 
Bet with blond

 
A redhead walks into a sports bar around 9:58 PM. She sits down next to this blonde at the bar and stares up at the TV. The 10:00 news was on. The news crew was covering a story of a man on a ledge of a large building preparing to jump.

The redhead turns to the blonde and says, "You know, I bet he'll jump."

The blonde replied, "Well, I bet he won't."

The redhead placed $20 dollars on the bar and said, "You're on!"

Just as the blonde placed her money on the bar, the guy did a swan dive off of the building, falling to his death. The blonde was very upset and handed her $20 dollars to the redhead and said, "All is fair. Here is your money."

The redhead replies, "Honey, I can't take your money, I saw this earlier on the 5 o'clock news and knew he would jump."

The blonde replies, "I did too, but I didn't think he'd do it again"
 
 

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Jokes / its affectin our children
« on: April 15, 2007, 08:53:43 PM »
a teacher of a std 3 class was askin the children what their parents do for a livin.billy said that his dad is a fireman,anne said that her mother is a doctor,john said his dad is a police.on reachin little mark he asked what does his parents do ,he hesitated for a minute then said that his father is a gay man who if you pay enough money he would have sex with you.the teacher shocked and worried called him after class and him how he deals with it, he then told her that he lied and his father is really a west indian cricketer is just to shame to say so.



two parents fightin for their child in court after being brought up on domestic violence charges.after a few hours and still not comin to a decsion they decided to ask the child.the judge asked who would you like to go with your mother? he said no,then your father? he said no again.so the judge puzzled  asked who ,he said the west indies cricket team because they dont beat anybody

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Jokes / Accident and Celebrating, huh !
« on: April 15, 2007, 08:03:37 PM »
Mike and Frank driving on a street, in different
directions. Out of some unfortunate mishap, the cars
slammed into each other, head-on. The two men were able
to get out of their cars without any serious injury,
but the cars were totaled.

Before Frank could say anything, Mike said,
"Instead of fighting over whose fault it was,
why don't we just celebrate that we were able to,
come out alive?"

Frank said, "Yeah, good idea!"

"I have a bottle of whisky in the trunk, why don't I
pull that out?" suggested Mike. He went around,
and luckily the bottle was not damaged in the accident.
He gave it to Frank and said, "Here, drink some!"

Frank took the bottle and chugged half of it down.
Then he wiped his mouth and handed the bottle over
to Mike. "Here, you have some!"

Mike passed it back and said,

"Nah, I think I'll wait until the police get here."

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Jokes / Women Dominated World
« on: April 15, 2007, 06:53:52 PM »
Everybody on earth dies and goes to heaven.

God comes and says, "I want the men to make two lines
-- one line for the men that dominated their women
on earth, and the other line for the men who were
dominated by their women. Also, I want all the women
to go with St. Peter."

The next time God looked, the women are gone,
and there are two lines.The line for the men who were
dominated by their women was 100 miles long, and in
the line of men who dominated their
women there was only one man.

God got angry and said, "You men should be ashamed
of yourselves. I created you in my image, and you
were all whipped by your mates. Look at the only
one of my sons who stood up and made me proud.

Learn from him! Tell them, my son, how did you manage
to be the only one in this line?"

The man replied,
"I don't know, my wife told me to stand here."


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Cricket Anyone / week off
« on: April 11, 2007, 10:03:50 PM »
since west indies next game is next week thursday,wonder if they will get more time off because they got a week home right before a their most important game of the world cup now since they have nothin else to play it left to see what management will do  :o

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Football / Costa Rica achieves 1000th goal in 1:1 draw against Chile
« on: April 10, 2007, 08:56:21 PM »

 29.3.07 - Costa Rica achieved their historic 1000th career goal in the 1:1 draw against the hosts, Chile, in an international friendly, at the Fiscal Stadium in Talca on Wednesday evening.
After Chile took a 1:0 halftime lead with a goal by Reinaldo Navia in the 33rd minute, Rolando Fonseca scored the equaliser in the 61st minute for Costa Rica.

Since Joaquín Manuel Guiterrez scored the first ever goal for the ticos in their inaugural game, a 7:0 victory over El Salvador on 14 September 1921, Costa Rica has played in 524 international matches and next to Mexico is only the second CONCACAF nation to have scored 1,000 goals.

Costa Rica is in preparations for the 2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup™ which will run from 6-24 June in six venues across the USA.

wonder how much trinidad has :-\

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Cricket Anyone / there is one happy west indian
« on: April 10, 2007, 06:45:06 PM »
michel holdin he just like to see lara do bad and the sad ting lara givin him reason to f**k him up with poor decsions. he is one of the greatest batsman but one of the worst captains,ganga is captain material not lara.holding say he not vex with bradshaw during his last few overs because he is not use to bowlin at the death and even if he  opened the bat and make a duck its still not him to blame LARA is

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Jokes / Impressed Manager
« on: April 06, 2007, 05:32:55 PM »

 
There was a boy who worked in the produce section of the market.
A man came in and asked to buy half a head of lettuce.
The boy told him that they only sold whole heads of lettuce, but the
man replied that he did not need a whole head, but only a half head.
The boy said he would go ask his manager about the matter.

The boy walked into the back room and said, "There's some jerk out
there who wants to buy only a half a head of lettuce." As he was
finishing saying this he turned around to find the man standing right
behind him, so he added, "and this gentleman wants to buy the other half."

The manager okayed the deal and the man went on his way. Later the
manager called on the boy and said, "You almost got yourself in a lot
of trouble earlier, but I must say I was impressed with the way you got
yourself out of it. You think on your feet and we like that around here.
Where are you from son?"

The boy replied, "Canada sir."

"Oh really? Why did you leave Canada?" asked the manager.

The boy replied, "They're all just whores and hockey players up there."

"Really," replied the manager, "My wife is from Canada!"

The boy replied, "No kidding! What team did she play for
 

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Jokes / The one
« on: April 01, 2007, 04:27:20 PM »

 
I have one
You have one
Your mother uses your father's one
And your auntie uses your uncle's one
A married lady would acquire one
But a divorced lady would lose her one
Arnold Schwarzenneger has a longer one
Michael J. Fox has a shorter one
Madonna doesn't have one
The Chinese usually have short ones
While the Indian usually have long ones







Do you have one?
How long is your one?
Which one is your preferred one?
(see below for answer)






what you are thinking of! go down......







Answer : its your Surname, what else !! but I like the way you think.
 

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Jokes / Funny
« on: April 01, 2007, 03:28:45 PM »

 
John Jones died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St.Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, "What are all those clocks?"

St. Peter answered, "Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move."

"Oh," said Jones, "whose clock is that?" "That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie." "Incredible," said Jones. "And whose clock is that one?" St. Peter responded, "That's Dr Eric Willams  clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Eric told only two lies in his entire life."

"Where's Manning clock?" asked Jones.

"Manning's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan." ;)
 

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Football / legends of concacaf
« on: March 25, 2007, 08:38:41 AM »
there  is a great difference between great players and legends.concacaf  countries all have good players and then there are great players and then there are legends persons who can put fright in players and is known throughout concacaf and the world for instance mexico has

good player plancia borgetti
great player blanco,hernandez,marquez
legends hugo sanchez

t&t
good-andrews
great-john,edwards
legends-yorke,latapy



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