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Football / The evolution of football and tactics
« on: July 16, 2018, 02:09:13 PM »
It's fascinating to me to see how football tactics, strategies, formations etc evolve over time

In 2010 South Africa, Spain won the World Cup for the first time and heralded in the age of "Tiki Taka". 

Possession football.   The longer you had the ball, the less opportunity it gave the opposition to score.   

If you don't have the ball.....you can't score.  Simple enough

Top teams that possessed the ball then, worked like demons to regain possession when it was lost.  It rendered opposing teams at the time virtually helpless.  I remember Barcelona playing Man U in a CL Final and making them look decidedly second class.

But as with all things......people evaluate and devise a scheme that will overcome that tactic

In 2014...Germany won the World Cup producing some devastating football in the semi against Brazil...thrashing them 7-1 at home in a display of ruthless and clinical efficiency.  They beat Argentina in a tightly contested final with both teams giving away little.

In 2018....France won despite being "out possessed" by nearly 50% in almost all of their matches.  Theirs was a triumph of efficiency, defensive solidity, and clinical counter attacking football.  And yeah...they could also play "champagne football" as they showed glimpses of in nearly every match.....but they weren't about that, and those glimpses only came about when they were on top.  They were about the efficiency

It will be interesting to watch how that will impact club football tactics.  Undoubtedly it will.  Essentially it says...."have the ball....keep it for as long as you want......come in and attack us.....and then BOOM....we ketch you on the counter".

This is not new.....but the hybrid of tactics from years past with new wrinkles thrown is what's intriguing.   Croatia played the football (in the first half).  France took home the spoils.  And at the end of the day....that's what has always mattered.

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Football / We takin lixx at every level sah
« on: August 15, 2017, 01:04:27 PM »
Seniors
Women
U 17
U 13

We gone from CFU runners up, World Cup Hex participants, Gold Cup knock out stages....to de regional and international football bobolee

Great job DJW and crew

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Football / You're down a goal....how come no Levi Garcia?
« on: March 29, 2017, 11:53:27 AM »
 ???

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Football / Boat Cruise Scammers?
« on: January 12, 2017, 04:12:30 PM »
 ???

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Football / Simple Solution to de boat ride ting
« on: January 03, 2017, 01:22:36 PM »
If Mohammed doh want to go to de mountain....den bring de mountain to Mohammed.


Turn de Treasure Queen into a floating stadium and host de next WCQ on it...complete with DJ's, baddisses, etc

Not only will local players be motivated to turn out for T&T......but it might also spur on a rush of previously unknown foreign based players wanting to rep T&T.  Who knew Mario Balotelli had Trini roots?

Build it and they will come.....feters and football players.  Place go be RAM.  T&T setting a trend in World Football.  And of course it go be all inclusive.  Instead of hugging up they fellow players when they score, players get to wine on sumting and pop a bottle instead.

If yuh cyah beat dem......join dem.

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Football / Soooo......when we playing Equatorial Guinea?
« on: December 11, 2016, 11:11:39 PM »
DJW?  Yuh eh go have anybody to tell yuh NO now.  And no need to stop a team training session to try and bully de players into playing. 

Now dem doing whatever you tell dem to do.  And Winchester go get a world cup qualifying sweat.  Maybe a team in Viet Nam will be ready to sign him after that

Plus....maybe Saintfiet could actually get a victory in the process

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Football / Thank you KJ, Boucaud, and Jan
« on: November 24, 2016, 09:23:57 PM »
Appreciate all you have done for the national team

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Football / November 16 Thread
« on: November 17, 2016, 12:25:16 PM »
Allyuh know what yesterday was?

November 16

Any reason why it might resonate for Trinbagonians?


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Football / A blast from the past
« on: October 27, 2016, 01:10:43 PM »
what more hurtful?  The El Salvador ref blatant teefin?

Or

We own officials sellin out de team and by extension....de country?


Officials eatin T bone steak and stayin in fancy hotels while man have to tote water in pails for teammates to take a bath

PRESSHA

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Port-au-Prince was as silent as a grave on December 4, 1973. On that afternoon, at the Sylvio Cator Stadium, fair play died and nearly two dozen Trinidad and Tobago footballers grieved its passing.
Haiti had just defeated Trinidad and Tobago 2-1 in a World Cup qualifying group match but even the home fans did not celebrate the final shrill of the whistle. The awkward silence was broken by the tears of star striker and policeman, Steve David, and some of his colleagues.
The visitors banded together and headed off the ground in silence. They ignored requests for interviews from the Mexican media and refused to shake hands with their Haitian opponents.
For the first time, Trinidad and Tobago had progressed to the final World Cup qualifying phase of the Concacaf zone but was on the verge of being eliminated in the most unjust manner. On five occasions, the twin island nation got the ball in the back of the Haitian net but each effort was mysteriously overruled by the match officials save for one David item.
No one left the hotel that night as each player kept his own counsel. The feeling of injustice was everywhere in the Trinidad and Tobago camp.
"This is madness, "said gifted midfielder Everald Cummings to no-one in particular.

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On the football field, Cummings impressed with a powerful shot and clever movement with and without the ball. But he had become a handful to local administrators off the field as well as he sought to inject his knowledge of professionalism into all corners of the national set up.
In Costa Rica, the players stayed at a hotel with infrequent water supply and no air condition or elevator while TTFA administrators led by president Phil Douglin enjoyed more comfortable surroundings.
The final straw came when Cummings had to climb three flights of stairs with a bucket of water so his roommate, Wilfred Bound to score Cave could finish his bath. The next day, after another serving of tripe for lunch, he called a meeting in his room.
We eating here like we in the orphan home when those fellahs have menu cards, Gally told his teammates. "If these administrators eating t-bone, we should be eating fillet mignon because we are the ones bringing in the money and we are the ones who need the energy!

Faced by a possible player revolt, Douglin called in ex-TTFA president and Concacaf representative Eric James who quickly ordered Cummings, Kenny Joseph, Gwenwyn Cust, Archibald, Leroy De Leon, Cave and trainer Trevor Smith to take the next flight home. The TTFA did not carry out its threat, which would have forced the team to forfeit its remain fixtures and face international sanction, but the entire squad was banned from football at the end of the tournament.

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After the defeat, the players waited for news of an official protest from the T&TFF. Oliver Camps, now Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) president, was team manager at the time while FIFA vice-president Jack Warner was TTFA general secretary and Concacaf official and ex-TTFA president Eric James worked for the Haitian consulate in Trinidad.
None, according to Cummings, expressed their disapproval in writing to Concacaf.
Instead, Mexico protested the result which, they argued, affected the validity of the entire tournament. The El Salvadorean referee was subsequently banned indefinitely by FIFA but the world body ruled that the 48-hour deadline for a protest had passed and the result stood.

FULL STORY

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Football / Physical makeup of the T&T MNT
« on: October 04, 2016, 03:50:02 PM »
Aside from Cordell Cato, Kevin Molino, Levi Garcia, and to a lesser extent Andre Boucaud....the vast majority of the core of the T&T MNT share the following physical characteristics:

Big
Strong
Athletic


Bateau
Abu Bakr (ok...so NOT athletic here...but definitely big and strong)
Mikiel Williams
Cyrus
Aubrey David
Yohance Marshall
Carlyle Mitchell
Tristan Hodge
Hyland
Bostock (ah know he technically not in the squad but will be)
Kevan George
Neveal Hackshaw
KJ


The "hobbits" are mostly the attackers (save for Andre Boucaud):
Levi Garcia
Joevin Jones
Cordell Cato
Trevin Caesar
Jomal Williams
Shahdon Winchester
Kevin Molino

And all the "hobbits" PACY and skillful.  Some more so than others.

The common thread among the team is athleticism.  In keeping with the trend of modern football where athleticism increasingly "trumps" other more "traditional" attributes like technique and work rate.

Not saying you don't need those traditional skill sets.

In today's football, you ideally need to have all 3 to be able to play effectively AT PACE.    But if you lacking in one area, it better not be in the athleticism department....otherwise crapaud smoke yuh pipe.

Ask Fabergas and Rooney.

Which is a shame....because it essentially suggests that a player like Socrates might not have come to prominence in this era.  And the game would be the poorer for it.

But reality is a bitch

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Football / Observations on yesterday's game
« on: September 03, 2016, 07:37:41 AM »
Phillip is very agile but his technique needs work.  Palm the ball right into Ruiz's path for the 2nd goal. Overall, had a good game and made a few key saves to keep T&T in it in the first half (also one in the 2nd)

Defence as a whole has one MAJOR difference to me from teams in the past.  Our defenders are trying to play the ball out of defence as opposed to hoofing it out.  This is definitely a change in mind set and a welcome change. It can only get better as players become more technically proficient. Not easy from a supporter standpoint though.

As one radio commentator stated....Carlyle Mitchell came to play yesterday. I thought he was excellent all game.  The fact that he took Abu Bakr's spot is an indication of how well he must have been performing in the training sessions. And it translated into the field.

Bateau was solid as usual as was Mekeil Williams

Cyrus' positioning was horrible much of the game.  Either playing too close to the Centre backs thus leaving too much space for the opposition, or being caught upfield on the counter and slow to get back.  Interestingly, his overlapping was decent except for getting back on occasion.

Hyland and Boucaud did a decent job protecting the Centre backs. I thought Kevan George when he came on was very good.

Cato had a good game and for me was an indication that he carried his good form with SJ onto the national team. I would actually try him at right wing back and see how Cyrus performs as a midfielder.

Joevin Jones was a threat every time he went forward. 2 well taken goals of which the second was a GOLAZO!  Still struggles defensively but it's a luxury that the team can afford as the other 3 'mods cover for him and Mekeil Williams is a stay at home wing back for the most part.

Molino plays well off of Kenwyne Jones and is effective in picking up "scraps" that fall loose.  I think he's still struggling a bit with his thigh injury

KJ had a poor finishing night..BUT...he occupies so much of the oppositon's defence attention, it makes thing SO MUCH EASIER for the other players. An invaluable, and vastly underrated by many fans and media, asset to have in any team.

The opposition defence could not cope with Levi Garcia when he came on. What a live wire.

Tevin Cesar didn't have much opportunity to make an impression.

Overall, the team looked good in patches, downright disinterested in others, and did enough to get the result.  Considering that this squad had not played together since the last WCQ against SVG.....it probably was to be expected.

No substitute for match practice.  Imagine what we could do if we played more often.

Congrats to the team and coaching staff

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Football / Nice article on Ozil
« on: December 18, 2015, 02:32:05 PM »
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"I think deeply he is a very, very collective player," Wenger said recently. "He is a very respectful guy. If you tell him to do that, he will do it for you. Mesut plays in the link between the low midfield and the striker . . . sometimes, I think he sacrifices himself for the team."

And while assists are part of that, it's not the entire story. Assists now have become accepted as a legitimate way to measure creativity. Perversely, they've also become a measure of individual talent, despite their nature being the opposite of individualism.

The real value of Ozil's performances at Arsenal? Look how Olivier Giroud, Theo Walcott, Santi Cazorla and Ramsey have evolved since Ozil joined. Their statistics, as much as Ozil's, demonstrate the value of a proper, selfless No. 10.

FULL STORY

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At ALL levels?

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Football / FIFPro WORLD XI
« on: November 26, 2015, 04:06:35 PM »
Short list

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Full FIFPro World XI shortlist:

Goalkeepers (5): Gianluigi Buffon (Italy/Juventus), Iker Casillas (Spain/Porto), David De Gea (Spain/Manchester United), Keylor Navas (Costa Rica/Real Madrid) and Manuel Neuer (Germany/Bayern).

Defenders (20): David Alaba (Austria/Bayern), Jordi Alba (Spain/Barca), Jerome Boateng (Germany/Bayern), Daniel Carvajal (Spain/Real), Giorgio Chiellini (Italy/Juve), Dani Alves (Brazil/Barca), David Luiz (Brazil/Paris Saint-Germain), Diego Godin (Uruguay/Atletico Madrid), Mats Hummels (Germany/Borussia Dortmund), Branislav Ivanovic (Serbia/Chelsea), Vincent Kompany (Belgium/Manchester City), Philipp Lahm (Germany/Bayern), Marcelo (Brazil/Real), Javier Mascherano (Argentina/Barca), Pepe (Portugal/Real), Gerard Piqué (Spain/Barca), Sergio Ramos (Spain/Real), John Terry (England/Chelsea), Thiago Silva (Brazil/PSG) and Raphael Varane (France/Real).

Midfielders (15): Thiago Alcantara (Spain/Bayern), Xabi Alonso (Spain/Bayern), Sergio Busquets (Spain/Barca), Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea), Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barca), Toni Kroos (Germany/Real), Luka Modric (Croatia/Real), Andrea Pirlo (Italy/New York City FC), Paul Pogba (France/Juve), Ivan Rakitic (Croatia/Barca), James Rodriguez (Colombia/Real), David Silva (Spain/Man City), Yaya Toure (Ivory Coast/Man City), Marco Verratti (Italy/PSG) and Arturo Vidal (Chile/Bayern).

Strikers (15): Sergio Aguero (Argentina/Man City), Gareth Bale (Wales/Real), Karim Benzema (France/Real), Douglas Costa (Brazil/Bayern), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/PSG), Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern), Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barca), Thomas Muller (Germany/Bayern), Neymar (Brazil/Barca), Arjen Robben (Netherlands/Bayern), Wayne Rooney (England/Manchester United), Alexis Sanchez (Chile/Arsenal), Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Barca) and Carlos Tevez (Argentina/Boca Juniors).

SOURCE

John Terry?

Gareth Bale?

Dem cyah even make dey own team first XI on a regular

Di Maria and Thiago Motta cyah make dis shortlist?  Wheeeyyyy sah

Rooney's selection must be a sympathy vote



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And by best.....I mean....THE VERY BEST

Despite clubs like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea that have $$$ to burn


Yes...CR7 came from Man Utd....but he wasn't even in the top 3 players in the world until AFTER he moved to Real Madrid

Zidane
Ronaldinho
Ronaldo (the original)
Messi
Neymar


The closest would be George Best and he was waaaayyyy before Premier League.

Lots of really outstanding players like Bergkamp, Henry, Suarez etc....but no...as Fernando Sancho would say.....TEEPEE TOP players.

Why is that?

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Football / Why does November 19 resonate more than November 16?
« on: August 17, 2015, 03:19:45 PM »
I was reading through the David Nakhid thread this weekend....and boy.....it had some real memories on dey...talk bout teef head... :rotfl:

And I was looking at the post dates and realizing it was coming close to the WC playoffs against Bahrain.

I could easily remember November 19.  A day forever etched in my memory.  But I actually had to think about the date for our World Cup qualification which of course was November 16

So it struck me......why was one of....if not....the most happiest day of my life.....seemingly less memorable than one of my most traumatic days?

To add to that, I can't even remember the date we played Sweden.  I know it was sometime in June or July 2006.  And that was a date when tears of pure joy and pride came to my eyes when our national anthem was played.

Is it because the bad stuff stays with you longer than the spectacular stuff?

Thought I would share with forumites to see if it's similar or the same for you

When we qualified that day in Bahrain....I honestly thought November 16 would forever banish the memories of November 19....or at least push them firmly into the recesses on my consciousness. 

Obviously that hasn't happened.  I'm struggling with why that is.

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It may surprise some

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Football / Best T&T footballer since 1980 to present by position
« on: July 21, 2015, 01:12:10 PM »
Ah pick 1980 as a starting point.

Shaka Hislop
Marvin Faustin
Dennis Lawrence
Clayton Morris
Anthony Rougier
Leonson Lewis
Russell Latapy
David Nakhid
Carlos Edwards
Dwight Yorke
Stern John




Subs:
Clayton Ince
Dexter Francis
Marvin Andrews
Kerry Jamerson
Arnold Dwarika
Jerren Nixon
Kenwyne Jones

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Football / How good was Marvin Faustin?
« on: July 15, 2015, 02:40:17 PM »
Was talking T&T football with a few breddrins de other day and underrated players came up.  Who is the most underrated T&T footballer from the 80's to this day?

One man say Rougier

A nex man swear is Dog

Another say KJ

Then a man say Faustin and everybody say...NAH.....Faustin was a bad balla


BUT

Breddrin went on to make the point that Faustin was always in the shadow of Latas, Yorke, Leonson, Nixon, Nakhid, Dwarika etc.  Whenever talk about boss T&T teams come up...he name hardly, if ever get mention.

So......how good was de Marvellous one?  I for one thought he was a player kinda before his time....in local ball at least.

An attacking midfielder that just slotted in anywhere...but mostly at wingback

But ah could see the relation in terms of him being underrated...certainly compared to his peers.


Thoughts?

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Football / Beats Thread
« on: May 21, 2015, 05:23:06 PM »
OH gorm......look at BEATS

PRESSHA!


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Football / Would like to see a friendly between T&T and Canada
« on: March 30, 2015, 04:21:48 PM »
In preparation for the World Cup

Both teams need the practice

Next FIFA matchday window is June 8 to 16.  Gold Cup runs from July 8 to 27 so ideal timing to have this

Come on T&T and Canada....make it happen!  :)

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Football / What would you do?
« on: October 31, 2014, 06:22:54 PM »

If a man do you dis in intercol?



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Yet same vexed local coaches forever buying foreign players fuh dey PFL teams.

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Julian Wade (Montserrat) - F - from Bath Estate FC to Caledonia AIA.

Jamaal Smith (Guyana International born in Canada) - D - Caledonia AIA.

Miguel Romeo (Mid - Argentina) to Caledonia AIA.

Shemel Louison (GK - Grenada) to Caledonia from Queens Park Rangers.

Keith ‘Keithy’ Simpson  (Def - Jamaica) to North East Stars from Tivoli Gardens.

Caledonia AIA signed

Akeem Thomas (Def - Antigua),  Elvis Thomas (Fwd - Antigua), Vurlon Mills (Mid - Guyana), Shemol Trimmingham (Def - St Vincent), Miguel Alejardro (Mid - Canada), Douglas Da Rocha Poroca (Mid - Brazil).

COLOMBIAN-born goalkeeper Alejandro Figueroa has rejoined Digicel Pro League champion W Connection on a short-term deal until the end of the 2012/2013 season.

W Connection also signed Tresmain Paul (midfielder - St Lucia) from Pakis FC.

So "foreigners" = good for PFL

"Foreigners" = bad to coach national team


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Football / Best Soca Warriors Gold Cup Moment
« on: July 22, 2013, 11:43:19 AM »
Mine is T&T progressing to the quarters.  All of them (besides de Bleedah comment) were special.


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Football / Analyzing yesterday's subs
« on: July 21, 2013, 01:19:28 PM »
I must admit I was puzzled when after going down a goal (84th minute or so), why we didn't immediately sub an offensive player in.  When we eventually made the subs, it was in the 88th minute.  On top of that, the first sub was Christopher Birchall...defensive midfielder.  Initally didn't make sense to me.

So I tried to reason why the subs were made when they were made and the decision making behind who came on.

I still can't answer why we didn't sub immediately after going down a goal.  Maybe the coaching staff felt who was already out on the field gave us the best chance of scoring a goal.  But if that's the case, why make any subs at all?

There's the argument that we lacked quality on the bench that could effectively make any difference so why sub? When I look at the sus bench, there were scarce alternatives in truth.

In hindsight, I believe the reason why Birchall and Carter were the subs are the following:

Our best chance of scoring would come from good delivery into the box for Kenwyne in particular to make something happen.  Birchall is a good crosser of the ball.  Carter is a winger who could go to the flanks and whip the ball in.






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Thank you team T&T, coaching staff, and the management.

Not to forget those players and coaches that got us to the Gold Cup in the first place

This was needed.

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Football / Anybody does watch ESPN 30 for 30?
« on: June 26, 2013, 08:34:05 PM »
Last night I watched the 30 for 30 on the 1984 Colombia football team and the tragedy of Andres Escobar.

Tears come to meh eye.  2 hours of must see TV. 

That team was BRILLIANT.  They reached some epic heights.....and some abysmal lows.

If you get a chance....check it out.  Many lessons to learn....not just about football.

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Football / Can Carzola make Spain starting XI?
« on: December 17, 2012, 04:43:33 PM »
If so, ahead of who?

I say he cyah make de 1st XI but he would be a great backup for Iniesta.

Dude got skillz

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General Discussion / Anybody see this yet?
« on: September 04, 2012, 02:27:07 PM »

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Football / Anybody know if Puncheon who plays for Southampton is a Trini?
« on: September 02, 2012, 10:46:32 PM »
Wit a name like dat...he would be a fan favourite  :rotfl:

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