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Football / Re: 2016 SSFL Thread
« on: September 29, 2016, 02:09:07 PM »
WATCH: Meet the people behind Unveil Magazine, Chester Pierre and Khiry Moses. Unveil is the official magazine of the Secondary School Football League.

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They are doing a good job, big up!

Also, not meaning to be greedy, but....is there a link for the girls' football, too?

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Football / Re: 2016 SSFL Thread
« on: September 29, 2016, 11:37:15 AM »
Quick question, folks....try as I might, I cannot, for the life of me, get ahold of a full SSFL schedule. Can anyone help me out, please? I have gone on every link I could find and all I'm getting is articles and never a full schedule.
   
Thanks  :cheers:



:-[ :praying:
Q R C, we want 2 goals 

Quick question, folks....try as I might, I cannot, for the life of me, get ahold of a full SSFL schedule. Can anyone help me out, please? I have gone on every link I could find and all I'm getting is articles and never a full schedule.
https://www.facebook.com/SSFLTT/posts/1217921194955576
http://theunveilmag.co/fixtures/


   Is only LIX we gettin'! Steuwps!!

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Football / Re: 2016 SSFL Thread
« on: September 28, 2016, 08:12:41 AM »
Quick question, folks....try as I might, I cannot, for the life of me, get ahold of a full SSFL schedule. Can anyone help me out, please? I have gone on every link I could find and all I'm getting is articles and never a full schedule.

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments.
« on: August 14, 2013, 09:18:54 AM »

Hoss yuh being overly defensive.  Yuh does let it fly normel normel, so if fuh no other reason that by itself is enough for you to recuse yuhself from comment on how Bakes does carry on dan.  I only call yuh name because yuh present and voice opposition and within said opposition yuh language still raw.  So what cyat mean c#$% it still doh ha de same weight bredrin.  Nanny and poosy carry de same connotation too?  I hear mothers buff up dey lil girl children growin up bout goin an bathe because dey out too long playin and use "cyat" in de mix.  As bad as some ah dem people used to cuss wey I grow up none ah dem wasn tellin dey daughter go an wash yuh c^&* doh.  You is ah big man so me eh even ha to make no example really buh yuh splittin hairs dawgie an yuh know it.  Yuh get ah yellow because in this very thread it was pointed (by flex I Believe) out dat yuh cah abuse de mods.  Yuh realize you is de only one (apart from my qustion to peong) dat cussin directly at anybody in dis discussion?  Oh and nutten eh wrong with my comparison because police not even responding to those questions except to tell yuh that irrelevant.  Trust me I tried it before. 
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I does let it fly normel normel at who, you? You cuss at me, I cuss back at you, too, what is wrong with that and how is that being "abusive"? You disagree with me in a normal manner, I disagree wit you same way and even YOU know that very well.  Other than yuh boy "bakes", who do I be cussin' at "normel normel"....if I disagree with them?  If anybody being overly sensitive/defensive is the ones seein' me cussin' and carryin' on with yuh boy and takin' it personal themselves....and since when tellin' a man that if he want to continue being what he was/is towards people then he should expect backlash, since when that is being abusive?  Steuwps! Allyuh men only smart in scheme oui! Maybe I doh see all the posts, but do any of the other mods be regularly addressing the posters like yuh fren? And what is a bigger example of splitting hairs than you talkin' about "this thread" like if "this thread" is why "we" even having this discussion in the first place. (and even Flex did say ah was being positive. ::) de other day so ah hope dat mean sumting on the "positive posts" rating system.)
  In any event, you missed the point I was making about your comparison being wrong. It isn't whether or not or how the cop would respond that makes the essence of it the wrong comparison. It is the fact that you are comparing something that can be easily proven by it's mere hard, tangible existence and recording, vs something that has to be specifically seen and adjudged to exist and/or be true in order for it to be an "offence".  You cannot "prove" that a man was speeding (by word of mouth) if not witnessed by said cop in the first place.  A post on a social network, on the other hand (until "discretionarily" deleted, of course) is in plain view and hard-recorded for all to see.  If you tried it before and it didn't work for you, thee is something that you were doing that made you stand out...learn to drive wreckless with discretion...I do it all the time and it works for me.


Good thing you said it Scorpion and not me. Good call out though.

No one will take anyone serious when they constantly whine and cuss.



  I vex yuh eh say it because it make meh miss out on a opportunity to tell yuh to hush yuh kyat...but ah go wait meh turn. Real men doh take ass-kissin' men seriously.



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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments.
« on: August 14, 2013, 07:05:08 AM »
Me eh ha no dog in defendin nobody buh ah man who does say de kinda tings Chow does say eh ha no business bringin nobody decorum into question.

   ....and ah bet, after putting it out dey dat you and King Jackass have a decade-old friendship, dat it didn't even make yuh feel de slightest bit uncomfortable to say dat, eh?  :rotfl: Laughable indeed. First off, boss, based on that view right there, it is the exact reason why (others have expressed that) he shouldn't be a moderator, especially since he want to be quick and fast to be issuing out "yellow cards", another laughable scenario. Dat come like Osmond Downer being brought in volunteering his services to oversee the SSFL and him sanctioning St. Anthony's for bringing in players just to play football without any (real) academic interest.
 Second off, I am not even bringing his "decorum" into question in the first place.  I am (for the umpteenth, umpteenh time) "calling out" Flex and dem for their inconsistency in applying the rules and their disdain for being called out on it...from criminals like me.  But as I was told yesterday, the rules don't have to be bent for me. I is a nobody.  But apparently I isn't de only one, look how you was so dismissive of Peong complaint about yuh boy tellin' a man to hush he kyat (or sumting so), but I am sure yuh fully agree with the yellow card i get for my comment yesterday, look it here:

  "   .....then you shouldn't be turning around and claiming any special protection as "moderator" and sending people no pm's with no yellow card warnings. If yuh want to c**t inue being a c**t....then play yuh role, wear the crown and accept whatever backlash comes with it.  FOH!"

...and everybody know "kyat" and "c**t" is de same ting eh...who knows, maybe you would make a good moderator, too.  Oh, and yuh comparison to the speeding tickets was the wrong one, eh.  If a man fla past a police, ah nex' driver cyah come and say "aye, officer, look a man was goin' x-amount over de speed limit when he did pass yuh", de officer go say "yuh have proof, yuh could prove it in court?", while everything anybody posts on here is made public and permanent....which is why I suggested to Flex that maybe implementing a program that would flag and hide offensive comments rather than deleting them at moderator's "discretion".  I think is a good idea and keeps things "transparent" while leaving the site's "credibility" intact.  Flex tell meh he eh know nutting 'bout dat, dize Tall Man area of expertise.   ....rest of allyuh probably see it as a "complaint".  ::)

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments.
« on: August 13, 2013, 01:01:23 AM »
I agree that if a complaint is against a moderator, then they should not reply. However, in my view, a moderator should not be posting in a manner that may be felt to be insulting/offensive/dis respectful/aggressive/abusive, like the one above. Now it may be that it takes a time for a mod to become, shall we say, more passive.

You can tell when Flex or Tallman are getting vexed, but they are still respectful. Like a policeman is supposed to be. I still don't know why people want to be referees, and I can't understand why a forumite would become a mod, because you have to learn to button your lip.

Bakes, I take my hat off to you for volunteering, and I appreciate that, like a referee, your work will be often criticised and unappreciated, however, I feel that as much as you have mellowed out, some of your responses are still inflammatory and that kinda goes against my understanding of the moderator role. (That's not to say you should take abuse, but maybe a response should be made behind the scenes?)

I appreciate everything you said.  However, see Qmire's post above... ribbit knows why he said what he said, and I'm sure he knows full well why I said what I said.  That aside, I think it also has a lot to do with you and others' understanding of the role of "moderator." I was asked to help out and that's what I'm doing.  I didn't 'volunteer' for sainthood or model poster or anything like that.  For all we know two months from now Flex and I might decide this ent working out... as well it might.  I plan on being myself either way.  Moderator or not, I am subject to the same rules as everybody else, no more, no less.  Same standard.


   .....then you shouldn't be turning around and claiming any special protection as "moderator" and sending people no pm's with no yellow card warnings. If yuh want to c**t inue being a c**t....then play yuh role, wear the crown and accept whatever backlash comes with it.  FOH!

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments.
« on: August 12, 2013, 01:52:50 PM »
I reported a comment to the moderators around July 22.  I got 1 response acknowledging so at least 1 mod received the report. 4 weeks later the posts are still there and I haven't received any more responses.

Musta not have been anyting I say...pm's and warnings woulda been dispatched with the expediency and alacrity of a "Matrix" sentinel.  ::)

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments.
« on: August 12, 2013, 11:00:34 AM »
In all seriousness...though I've had some run-ins with a couple of individuals on this site, who seem to initiate their approach to people the 'wrong way' to present a differing opinion, I always believe in moving past that petty 'debate' and may even gladly agree with that same individual on one of their own subsequent posts if I agree with that post.

Although this thread is about rules and guidelines, as the topic has changed I'll add my piece further:  I think what causes most of the friction here on all sides is when we hold grudges against each other.  And I'm ashamed to say that what we do here on this site is a bit of a microcosm of what we see on the roadways, the pavements, the business places, and the hallways of schools and government in T&T.  People are just too angry at each other.  We drive angry.  We shop angry. We work angry.  We debate and disagree angry.  We convene, compare, and contrast with each other angry.  We fight...we brawl...we shoot at the simplest infraction.  This isn't a nation where disagreements are amicably discussed.  This is an angry nation, and it definitely shows in how we conduct ourselves on social forums.

Everything we seem to do in T&T is done with an edge of bitterness, mistrust, and anger as the main ingredients in our doubles, bake and shark, roti, and red solo. 

People want to see a real positive change on T&T based website and forums???  Then look within and letís avail ourselves with decorum and respect...and this applies for all members including moderators, and regular posters regardless of how much or how few comments we have.

Anyway, it is indeed okay to disagree and offer dissenting opinions...but it need not be done in anger ALL THE TIME.

In the end, as Shakespeare said: To thine own self be true.   
 

   :beermug:

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments.
« on: August 12, 2013, 10:31:32 AM »
I have been here a while now just do not post. And for your information Flex, when posters cuss and act stupid it does scare one from posting because you do not want to be picked or cuss on.

I do not mind be corrected, just don't like some of the confrontation here (I:E: Mango Chow and just cool are two I normally stay away from).

Bakes, is also sometimes confrontational, but he keeps things in prospective, he as a moderator, needs to now set examples and other should not judge him from past incidents, I ASSUME he has clean up his act?

I do like reading posts from, Football supporter, coops, Socapro, D.H.W, rotatopoti3, Brownsugar, Palos, royal, Preacher, Sando, Errol, A.B Trini, Big magician, Sam, Deeks, Trini _2018 and now maxg. Sorry if I miss a few but I am still getting use to things around here.

Flex, Tallman, you guys are doing a splendid job here and you need to put some of these posters in they place instead of trying to convince or explain anything to them.

Star Child, triniairman and maxg are some of the post I tend to side with.

My 2 cents, please go easy on me.  ;)

PS: Good luck to our team in the World Championship, I hope to see us medal in the 4x1 relay both men and women.



  IN my defense, Debbie, I have never engaged in any confrontation with nor have I ever been disrespectful towards any of the ladies on this form and that is something even the new moderator cannot say for himself or any of the mods or posters could say about me.  I could even tell you of one female poster that we no longer see on here, whose departure can be attributed in some way, to said moderator's conduct.  Even if we disagreed on anything or everything  under the sun, you would never have had to worry about my responses directed at you being out of hand in any way....I am sorry that you feel insecure about my posts, but it may surprise you to know that even I have standards.  I don't disrespect women or children and I do not make racist/racial attacks.   

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments
« on: August 12, 2013, 09:21:27 AM »


Decent post, however, posters like Mango Chow is not making the site a pleasant place to be. His constant cussing at members
I am sure is scaring away many. If anything he is making the site into a worst place.

I think the moderators need to do something about this guy, he has absolutely no respect for anyone. He uses cuss words constantly, not sometimes yuh know, constantly. My wife use to post here and refuse because of people like this chap.

This site I am sure now does not need this forum. The forum was built for a luxury for use to use is like big men and women, not some babyish behavior all off the time.




   *yawn* listen, hoss, my posts wasn't scaring away nobody dat "bakes" own wasn't, neither in quantitative nor qualitative terms of obscenity and it is not POSSIBLE for anybody on this forum, let alone  me, to have had as much confrontation with great a number of different posters as he has so tell yuh wife it safe now, she could come out from de bomb shelter where yuh have she hidin'.  Ah know yuh go say yuh either doh have de time or interest, but you are free (especially for the sake of your own credibility) to go and look at 99.9% of my posts, going all the way back to 2006.  Yuh miss it yesterday when yuh was climbing all dem stairs but I threw out my stats and unfortunately, the mods and dem deleted my post.  I will repeat them (paraphrase because it is not exact or scientific) for your benefit and that of anyone else that may be running to join your wife in holy protective seclusion:  99% of my posts are obscenity-free. (+/- 2 or 3 %)  Of the ones that ARE laced with obscenities, 99.9% of them have been, especially over the past 2-3 years, have been all directed towards ONE person/thing and I do not offer any apologies for that. The other 1% that has been directed at, as you put it, "ALL the other posters"  ::) is well within the forum's precedented levels of acceptability.   Even the other people whose views I may have been the most opposed to, or I have had the most disagreements and/or confrontations with, like Kicker, Ryan, Just cool, ribbit, and a few others, even THEY would tell you yuh talkin' shit.  Now if yuh want to say that my "tirades" towards King Jackass has been a turnoff, then I can totally accept that....but be the big man you say you are and stop exaggerating like^^that.  It makes your post look downright untruthful and THAT, my boy, suggests a character trait your wife should REALLY running and hiding from.


Flex, before allyuh delete this one, too, here is a suggestion I would like to make: for the sake of this so-called "transparency" that everybody is talking about, but for what I see more as "credibility", maybe allyuh could implement a program like what YouTube has, that flags and hides our (my) posts instead of deleting them.  It is downright laughable to see the kinda nonsensical claims that people like errol here are making without the ability on his part to support his claim or my (our) ability to refute them.  Even your claim that people are "only complaining" is a bit exaggerated.  Maybe we are discussing a specific subject for too long (but that. clearly speaks volumes in and of itself, considering what it is) but that statement cyah be true. and, by the way, what constitutes or what does it take to be a "valid member"? It have forms yuh hadda full out? I want one, please.  Respeck  :beermug: 

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments
« on: August 11, 2013, 02:47:36 PM »
I do not post much but when I read things like this I does have to reply.

Giggsy11, Mango Chow, FF and 100% Barataria you guys really amaze me, and for some senior men too. A much of red eye people who never happy. Of all, FF still do some positive stuff but the rest, please.

For the years I here never I've I seen favoritism. And to add on top of that, all the other moderators were just given the job the same way Bakes got his, there were no panel and no problem, Flex gave the job who he felt can help him out, but these whiners have something against Bakes. So the same favoritism they whining about, is the same favoritism they want against Bakes, so its not good for the goose but good for the gander.

Secondly, how much money do you guys contribute towards the site? You guys acting like you have share here or you voting for some president.

Thirdly, apart from money, do you guys actually post any sort of news or anything that can help.

Fourthly, Flex asked for suggestion since yesterday, Mango Chow could show up and talk big and argue and the others disappear with no suggestions and when Flex comes up with his own thing, they are the first to complain.

I dont contribute much and this is why I do not complain, I just appreciate the fact that I can come here and get updates and have a laugh sometimes.

Flex, Tallman, you guys continue doing a great job, thank you for this site.

Mr Maxg, that story is a true story.

 ;)




   Just like the rest of the people that complaining against the "complainers" you are misinformed and WAY off with your assessment.  You people seem to think that I have a problem with Flex assigning King Jackass (as I chose to call him) as a moderator...clearly you people are lacking in a basic ability to read and understand basic English...maybe it's my poor vocabulary.  My eyes red from partying from early yesterday evening into early this morning and getting little sleep, not from the bullshit accusation you tryin to throw out. So let meh make it clear yet again, for the umpteenth time, I doh give a f**k that "bakes" is a moderator.  Dat is Flex padnah, dat is Flex decision and even when Flex and I spoke on the phone and he offered me the olive branch of asking me if I wanted him to rescind his appointment, I told him I don't want NO SUCH THING. (Am I lying, Flex?) I made it CLEAR to flex and all the moderators that I don't care who they assign as moderator, but I also don't care for their pm's warning me and what not for using the same language towards "bakes" that "bakes" has used towards me and other people on the forum.  I told Flex, like I told "bakes" in their respective pm's that I don't give a f**k about their warnings and they could take whatever subsequent measure they see fit, I will not "respect" him now, like some head master just because he is now moderator nor will I care what punishment is meted out. If it leads to my expulsion from the site, trust, I will not lose any sleep over it.  I know every moderator on this board is rolling their eyes because I have been responding to their (Flex') pm's with the exact same shit all up to yesterday and I know they tired of it.  Flex already asked me what I think he should do when next choosing a moderator and I suggested that he maybe take a poll.  I don't need to respond beyond that because I also told him at the end of the day, it is HIS site and he can run however he want....but don't expect to censor people when you appoint as moderator, one of the people that has needed the most censoring him/it self and not expect people to speak up on it.  Even communist governments does ketch flak for that.

At teh end of the day eh, padnah, I doh tailor and hone my posts for no "positivity" ratings....that you and other people does wanna talk dat, more suggests to me that maybe is allyuh does be wanting your posts to be seen as "positive" and every effort on your part(s) is to post "positive" for the sake of likeability and popularity points on the forum.  People does only think dat way when they lookin' fuh fren and acceptance and I am not one of them. Get yuh facts right.

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: August 11, 2013, 09:15:04 AM »
Valencia give back # 7 and returns to #25. Only very special players need to wear #7, glad Valencia came to his senses! 

  It doh matter WHAT number yuh wear, yuh playin' fuh a shit side, yuh playin' fuh a shit side!  ::)

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Football / Re: Forum Rules and Guidelines comments
« on: August 10, 2013, 08:31:29 AM »
Hey as long as they impose the same rules and guidelines across the board for all forum members and moderators.  To much hypocrisy and favoritism happening, so why should those who suppose to be imposing rules be taken seriously? If dey is partners, dey get passes to take liberties. Which is why this forum is to be taken with a grain of salt and has lost a lot of credibility as a result. Letting the fox manning the chicken coop.

Ahhhh, Giggsy, yuh is a woman after meh own heart!


I really don't care too much for this renewed touting of the so-called rules and guidelines because it is evident to me that they are being conveniently or selectively or inconsistently applied. Men talking about "crass" as if "crass" is new to the forum.  This same new moderator they have "bakes" that want to be sendin' me "pm warnings" is and always has been one of the most crass and bitch-oriented characters on here and to THAT hypocrisy I say, go fly a f**kin' kite. We is Trinis and we all know how we does talk we shit and laugh and joke, rum shop or not but even in a rum shop environment, with liquor flowing, most reasonable people does know dey boundaries.  I not on the pm-ing thing at all. Dize fuh men who on de shoo-shoo, glee club, convent girl kinda scene and I doh rock so.  If unnecessarily offend or disrespect you, then call me on it like a man, not like no teenage gyul, runnin' to moderators behind my back, because if dize how yuh does move in a rum shop, dem fellas (and ladies) eh go want yuh drinkin' wit dem too much...unless yuh pockets deep and yuh sponsorin'.  Mods should be doing their own jobs and not encouraging snitch behaviour and that starts with comporting themselves with a certain decorum. But if yuh want to come out yuh ivory tower and exchange banter down in the trenches, then take whatever mud gets slung back in yuh eye and sleep in whatever bed yuh made fuh yuh self.   

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: August 08, 2013, 03:01:38 PM »
 :D  I eh shame nuh, nex' year ah go be winin' dong de place wit all dem Brazilian woman....but if yuh feel is Messi alone, ah used to like Maradona and Batistuta, too...and Sergio Goycochea........but believe it or not, I actually used to hate Messi.  HATE, ah say.....and I used to like . CR7....dize real talk. But ah watch dem play enough and ah watch dem good, that their play make meh come to meh senses.  You should do the same.  :D

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: August 08, 2013, 12:51:13 PM »
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
 Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest

Ronaldo has more tools than Messi.  People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision.  If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet.  Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective.  This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore.  And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.


  What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?

Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?

  You sounding like them ronaldo fans that repeating the same thing about being "successful" at different clubs.  Pele only played for ONE club before retiring with the cosmos eh....Where has ronaldo proven that he is "better" at heading the ball than Messi? Just because he scores more goals with his head does not make him "better" at it and if RM played the same "tiki-taka" style of football that Barca does, ronaldo wasn't scoring that many headers, either. You forget that goal that messi score against manu and left rio and vds in knots?  You think he score that because he cyah head a ball....good? If you know the kinds of (heading) drills an Argentinian have to perform to pass muster for their national team yuh would be embarrassed for saying that.
to say that ronaldo is a better finisher suggest yuh smoking something, jed.  for real...ask Almunia if Messi cyah finish like ronaldo...ask AC Milan....ask manu and vds again, remember de bullet he put on dem in Wembley? Nah, jed, try again.
 
Ronaldo fan? nah not by a long shot, but ah just like to see good players ply dey trade. Neymar,Messi,Ronald etc.
He is a talented player, but sometimes the antics and flopping does get old. That being said I am just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.
Argentina could be head butting co-co nuts in dey team drills but it eh go make Messi a better header of the ball than Ronaldo.
I eh saying Messi cyah head the ball, but you seriously think he is a better header of the ball than Ronaldo?
As far as finishing, Ronaldo's goal scoring record in the EPL AND La Liga speaks volumes.
Yuh call all dem big teams, but didn't Ronaldo score against them also?
If yuh say Messi's vision is better than Ronaldo, I will totally agree, but we go have to agree to disagree on the other attributes.

Who was the better player Zidane or Ronald (brasil)

  Zidane and ronaldo were two completely different players playing completely different roles....but I would still take ronaldo probably because I am a Brazil fan.



I still want to know what makes ronaldo a better header of the ball than Messi? I asked you if RM played the same style of football as Barca where they as a team don't play the ball in the air as much as RM do, if ronaldo would score as many headers and yuh still eh answer meh yet.  Just because he scores more with his head doesn't make him better.  I brought up their national team drills because it speaks directly of their ability....anything ronaldo can do, Messi can do, too, and in most cases (if not all) he does them better.  Yes, ronaldo scored against them teams, too, but you cannot compare the quality of the goals that Messi scores.  You ever see ronaldo run up the middle with the ball and take on a whole central defence?

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: August 08, 2013, 11:19:05 AM »
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
 Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest

Ronaldo has more tools than Messi.  People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision.  If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet.  Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective.  This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore.  And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.


  What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?

Power, strength, heading ability, finishing and I could keep going...
I think this will always continue to be a great debate, but unfortunately there are certain mitigating factors involved.
1.Messi has only been successful and dominant at one club team.
2.Ronaldo has been successful at Sporting Lisbon, Man-U and Real Madrid.
3.They also play different postions.
This debate is similar to the one some years ago when people were comparing Zidane and 'the real' Ronaldo. Who would you say was the better player?

  You sounding like them ronaldo fans that repeating the same thing about being "successful" at different clubs.  Pele only played for ONE club before retiring with the cosmos eh....Where has ronaldo proven that he is "better" at heading the ball than Messi? Just because he scores more goals with his head does not make him "better" at it and if RM played the same "tiki-taka" style of football that Barca does, ronaldo wasn't scoring that many headers, either. You forget that goal that messi score against manu and left rio and vds in knots?  You think he score that because he cyah head a ball....good? If you know the kinds of (heading) drills an Argentinian have to perform to pass muster for their national team yuh would be embarrassed for saying that.
to say that ronaldo is a better finisher suggest yuh smoking something, jed.  for real...ask Almunia if Messi cyah finish like ronaldo...ask AC Milan....ask manu and vds again, remember de bullet he put on dem in Wembley? Nah, jed, try again.
 

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:47:35 AM »
If you had a chance to pick either messi or ronaldo who whould you pick for your side.

I would pick Messi.

Ronaldo only beat him on the physical power side.

Messi game does not depend on power

even if Messi comes up against faster more powerful men he finds a way to be successful.

I have seen Ronaldo get locked down plenty of times

same cannot be said of Messi
.

he always finds a way to at least have an impact.

Messi has been been locked down many times while playing for Argentina. I think a true test would be if Messi went to a different team in another league. I don't think that he will struggle, but he may not be as dominant as he is with Barcelona.


not too many teams in south America locking him OR Argentina down these days th ;)o.

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:45:58 AM »
I find that ronaldo benefits from and is very good at exploiting, the space his teammates create for him.   Messi does more to create space for his teammates than the other way around.  ronaldo tries very hard to always be the end result and cleverly uses his pace, quickness....and his teammates to be that end result...he will always play that ball off and make a run into a space.  Messi will either do that or take the ball and take on all defenders, especially right up the middle.  ronaldo will NEVER try that. He will razzle-dazzle with a stepover or two and either cut in and shoot...or pass to his teammates to help breakdown the defense so he can be in the right place to score....nutting wring wit dat  ronaldo is not necessarily more powerful than Messi, either.  He is a little taller and his game revolves more around his use of it than anything else, but it doh men Messi isn't as powerful.  Kinda hard to give ronaldo the edge on "power" too when he has spent so much of his career falling on the ground.   

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:02:45 AM »
Real Madrid schooled Chelsea last nite. I wore my Chelsea jersey with pride but this one man on top that Jose tried yesterday without Mata - hazard - and Oscar pulling the strings just would not cut it.
 Secondly Lampard cant keep up with the pace of modern day football. If Real Madrid get Gareth Bale , they will be a force to reckon with this year both in La Liga and Champions league. As a self confessed
Messi fan after seeing Ronaldo live yesterday , I must agree with the pundits he has all the attributes to be the greatest

Ronaldo has more tools than Messi.  People simply don't like him or more specifically his attitude and antics so it blurs their vision.  If however people were to objectively look at Ronaldo and his complete package of physical attributes, skills, awareness and overall football intelligence they would never insult him by acting as if Messi is the best on the planet.  Messi is a tremendous talent and blessed with many great attributes but he cannot be plugged into as many football situations as Christiano can and be just as effective.  This is not to say I believe CR is miles better or anything like that but I do believe he has an edge that bias causes people to ignore.  And trust me when I say I am not at all a CR fan, but I do appreciate how immensely great he is as a footballer.


  What are the tools that ronaldo have that messi don't have? Tangible AND intangible?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 05, 2013, 07:48:11 PM »
  So you're saying the defender did NOT push Drogba in the back whatsoever, is that it? I eh go deny that Drogs made the most of it but once  use yuh arms to obstruct or impede an opponent in your box and then yuh arkskin' fuh trouble.....con man or not, if you also deny that Drogba seem to have a special love for scoring against yuh side yuh haven't been paying attention....but like yuh say., is only pre-season.  :D

Drogs back into Miquel and frankoment flop on the ground like he get shot. Complete dive. Typical Drogba. He used to score on us all the time, yes, but hasn't since 2010. Last time he played against us for allyuh man like Djourou had him tie up like a market crab. Anyway, yes, is only preseason. He skin out slow ass Mertesacker at the end of his 2nd 90 minutes in 2 days. 1 decent goal, 1 fraudster penalty. If yuh want to gloat over a fraud then like yuhself.


  Ah see like yuh takin' what start off as a lil' joke more serious than yuh need to...nobody gloating, horse, I was jes gettin' kicks from de start but you chose to argue the merits of the penalty and against the importance of the goals and game itself (which, we both seem to agree is not that big a deal...maybe unless allyuh woulda win the tournament).  Hopefully yuh go get a good night's sleep and get over it by the morning.

LOL! I over it hoss. Is YOU keep bringing it up. I say fraud penal and you latch onto that like a drowning man on a water wing. Honestly I didn't even bother watching the games live. I don't even remember the last time I watch Emirates Cup live.

  I didn't even remember the tournament existed until I get a notification on fb 'bout Drogs stickin' it to allyuh again....and I wasn't disagreeing that he made the most of it, just pointing out that the defender put he self in a bad spot.  :beermug:

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 05, 2013, 07:31:21 PM »
  So you're saying the defender did NOT push Drogba in the back whatsoever, is that it? I eh go deny that Drogs made the most of it but once  use yuh arms to obstruct or impede an opponent in your box and then yuh arkskin' fuh trouble.....con man or not, if you also deny that Drogba seem to have a special love for scoring against yuh side yuh haven't been paying attention....but like yuh say., is only pre-season.  :D

Drogs back into Miquel and frankoment flop on the ground like he get shot. Complete dive. Typical Drogba. He used to score on us all the time, yes, but hasn't since 2010. Last time he played against us for allyuh man like Djourou had him tie up like a market crab. Anyway, yes, is only preseason. He skin out slow ass Mertesacker at the end of his 2nd 90 minutes in 2 days. 1 decent goal, 1 fraudster penalty. If yuh want to gloat over a fraud then like yuhself.


  Ah see like yuh takin' what start off as a lil' joke more serious than yuh need to...nobody gloating, horse, I was jes gettin' kicks from de start but you chose to argue the merits of the penalty and against the importance of the goals and game itself (which, we both seem to agree is not that big a deal...maybe unless allyuh woulda win the tournament).  Hopefully yuh go get a good night's sleep and get over it by the morning.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 05, 2013, 07:11:26 PM »
Brendan Rodgers is kicks yes! Talking about Arsenal lacking class when they are the ones plastering Suarez negotiations all over the papers and tweeting "what is Arsenal smoking". :rotfl:

  Maybe he was talking purely from a footballing perspective after he see Drogba skin allyuh out (yet) again this week  ;D :devil:

What, you mean one good goal in a friendly against an exhausted Mertesacker and makeshift defence and one ridiculous (and typically Drogba) dive to win a penalty? If that is a "skin out" I am the Emperor of Japan!

  lol! Easy, padnah, I jes pullin' yuh leg...but yuh cyah deny Drogba is allyuh faddah. (and the penalty was a legit one.....defenders cannot use their arms or hands to push an opponent in the box and expect to get away with it.)*****well, at least get away with it ALL de time.  ;D
Hahahaha! Nutten legit bout dat penal boss. He back into Miquel and went down like a sniper get him. As it was a friendly, I was real laughing. Anyway, I sure if Koscielny was playing like he would a real game Drogs would be in he back pocket. Dat man hate strikers like sharks love blood.

   ;D Spoken like a true prodigal son, showing no respeck fuh he faddah...I sure if Drogba was playin' like it was a real game Koscielny woulda been left witless like so many other arsenal defenders before him....but hear nuh. if de man tryin' and position he self for a cross and it look like he have to back up to reach de ball, ent he havta to back up? and ent de defender have to stand his ground and keep him from backin' up?....but he not supposed to push de man wit he arms or hands...yuh cyah say dat wasn't legit man, oh GAWSH! (allyuh wicked boy! lol!) 

Koscielny building up a real nice collection of big name strikers he bobolize. Drogba ent no different.

And what push? Drogs back into the man and then collect the Jason Bourne head shot. How long Drogba is a con man and you bawling legit foul?

  So you're saying the defender did NOT push Drogba in the back whatsoever, is that it? I eh go deny that Drogs made the most of it but once  use yuh arms to obstruct or impede an opponent in your box and then yuh arkskin' fuh trouble.....con man or not, if you also deny that Drogba seem to have a special love for scoring against yuh side yuh haven't been paying attention....but like yuh say., is only pre-season.  :D

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 05, 2013, 01:29:28 PM »
Brendan Rodgers is kicks yes! Talking about Arsenal lacking class when they are the ones plastering Suarez negotiations all over the papers and tweeting "what is Arsenal smoking". :rotfl:

  Maybe he was talking purely from a footballing perspective after he see Drogba skin allyuh out (yet) again this week  ;D :devil:

What, you mean one good goal in a friendly against an exhausted Mertesacker and makeshift defence and one ridiculous (and typically Drogba) dive to win a penalty? If that is a "skin out" I am the Emperor of Japan!

  lol! Easy, padnah, I jes pullin' yuh leg...but yuh cyah deny Drogba is allyuh faddah. (and the penalty was a legit one.....defenders cannot use their arms or hands to push an opponent in the box and expect to get away with it.)*****well, at least get away with it ALL de time.  ;D
Hahahaha! Nutten legit bout dat penal boss. He back into Miquel and went down like a sniper get him. As it was a friendly, I was real laughing. Anyway, I sure if Koscielny was playing like he would a real game Drogs would be in he back pocket. Dat man hate strikers like sharks love blood.

   ;D Spoken like a true prodigal son, showing no respeck fuh he faddah...I sure if Drogba was playin' like it was a real game Koscielny woulda been left witless like so many other arsenal defenders before him....but hear nuh. if de man tryin' and position he self for a cross and it look like he have to back up to reach de ball, ent he havta to back up? and ent de defender have to stand his ground and keep him from backin' up?....but he not supposed to push de man wit he arms or hands...yuh cyah say dat wasn't legit man, oh GAWSH! (allyuh wicked boy! lol!)

 

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 05, 2013, 12:43:02 PM »
Brendan Rodgers is kicks yes! Talking about Arsenal lacking class when they are the ones plastering Suarez negotiations all over the papers and tweeting "what is Arsenal smoking". :rotfl:

  Maybe he was talking purely from a footballing perspective after he see Drogba skin allyuh out (yet) again this week  ;D :devil:

What, you mean one good goal in a friendly against an exhausted Mertesacker and makeshift defence and one ridiculous (and typically Drogba) dive to win a penalty? If that is a "skin out" I am the Emperor of Japan!

  lol! Easy, padnah, I jes pullin' yuh leg...but yuh cyah deny Drogba is allyuh faddah. (and the penalty was a legit one.....defenders cannot use their arms or hands to push an opponent in the box and expect to get away with it.)*****well, at least get away with it ALL de time.  ;D

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 05, 2013, 10:41:45 AM »
Brendan Rodgers is kicks yes! Talking about Arsenal lacking class when they are the ones plastering Suarez negotiations all over the papers and tweeting "what is Arsenal smoking". :rotfl:

  Maybe he was talking purely from a footballing perspective after he see Drogba skin allyuh out (yet) again this week  ;D :devil:

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Football / Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« on: July 31, 2013, 05:41:58 AM »
Hard luck to Staurt Holden, who busted his ACL during the match. This will be his 3rd serious injury in the last 2-3 years. Know it can't be easy fighting that fight over and over again.

...same process (not necessarily the same injury, I can't remember) that ended Kona Hislop's football career. He woulda be something else.

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Football / Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« on: July 30, 2013, 02:46:13 AM »
dat goal woulda only be offside if donovan had touched the ball before dat imps, shea did...which, the linesman with his perfect vision, saw instantly  and unequivocally ::) that he didn't. Daiz one ah dem calls linesman woulda raise dy flag thinkin' donovan touch de ball but he didn't....he have eagle-eye (no pun intended) vision to have seen that donovan didn't touch it.

Let's assume Donovan touched it; he and more importantly the ball were ahead of Shea.  How you gettin an offside out of that?  You can't be offside when you behind the ball when it was passed.

  You're right, my bad....I was putting him ahead of donovan (AND the ball, of course) when the ball was at donovan's feet. Correck is right.  :beermug:


                                                                   ***********

....so ah go look better and find somewhere else to apply meh hate.  :devil:

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Football / Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« on: July 29, 2013, 04:21:21 PM »
dat goal woulda only be offside if donovan had touched the ball before dat imps, shea did...which, the linesman with his perfect vision, saw instantly  and unequivocally ::) that he didn't. Daiz one ah dem calls linesman woulda raise dy flag thinkin' donovan touch de ball but he didn't....he have eagle-eye (no pun intended) vision to have seen that donovan didn't touch it.

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Football / Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« on: July 28, 2013, 07:49:13 PM »
 ::)  ...the only trophy they'll ever get their hands on....especially since it's always on their home soil.

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long story short some personalities invovled does jus rub yuh d wrong way and we translate dat onto to d entire US setup, more so if u not livin dey or jus have it in yuh to be dispassionate about dem.

   :rotfl: Yeah, ah know it was long in trute, but ah feel like ah needed to "extrapolate"....but living here and living amongst them could really send your opinion either for the better of for the worse.....for me, it's the latter. 

it wasn't targeted at u it was general....but cool scene ;D

...is meh own dam conscience was killin' meh...when ah hit "Preview" and see how long it was ah say "Mango boy, dis shit too long, yuh go ketch hell fuh dis but f**ket!!"  :D

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