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Like all de Liverpool fans drunk or still celebrating 😁

Congratulations and good on you for poking yuh head round de door. What a year to break the curse.

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Football / Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« on: June 26, 2020, 09:11:07 PM »
Patriot Front???

Unfortunate choice of name  :o

It's actually "Patriotic Front". There's precedent for use of Patriotic Front in the political arena (for instance, it's the "PF" in ZANU-PF in Zimbabwe). However,  more often than not "PF" has been Popular Front. Nonetheless, it's a name I would have avoided, or suggested not using, because of the concern to which you allude. Of course,  the use in Zimbabwe is decades old and the argument for its use would be that of not letting a divisive group co-opt the use of the term. Perhaps the solution would be "Patriotic Front Trinidad & Tobago".

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Football / Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« on: June 26, 2020, 12:39:20 PM »
Yep!  And good for him.  :applause:

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Football / Re: La Liga Thread
« on: June 25, 2020, 08:01:33 AM »
Welcome Luka Romero.

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General Discussion / Re: Black Lives Matter Thread.
« on: June 22, 2020, 08:42:09 AM »
Clearly the sort of contribution the NY Post would latch on to as being definitive justification for right-wing opposing views. Find a figure that proposes contradiction and let it run the route of simplicity (because among that school of thought it always only ever takes one dissenting person with "sufficient melanin" to parade the apple cart of "we're right") But, of course, not everyone is asleep.

Thinking about that Junior Gong line: Come on let's face it, a ghetto education's basic
And most ah de youths dem waste it

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Football / Re: Coronavirus In Football Thread.
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:36:00 AM »
Big up yuh chest, Marcus Rashford! Another footballer who gets it! BOOM! :applause:

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General Discussion / Re: The David Nakhid General Discussion Thread
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:10:24 AM »
Ah want to see KPB and UNC control he

Most relevant in the context of maintaining parliamentary discipline but first he has to be elected. Everything else outside of parliamentary debate would be rabble-rousing. Frankly, barring a sound whipping in 'Puna on Election Day, I see only upsides for Nakhid.

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General Discussion / Re: The David Nakhid General Discussion Thread
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:01:52 AM »
Ah want to see KPB and UNC control he

No control dey nah
" birds of a feather keep flocking the place forever"

 Waits nah did this same DN not turn he back on the national team at one time?  Quit or left?
 Well in TnT we suffer from  memory lapses - this was the same country that allowed a certain man to coach national teams despite his involvement in traitors acts against a government back in the  days.     
Oh yes we tend to like commess and  anyone who lives on the fringes

We get it: his choice is not your cup of tea. I have an acute understanding of why that would be the case based on a reading of your prior contributions and of the UNC's many entries in Hansard. Perhaps DN will express why he made the UNC choice, as best he can without the political rhetoric. At least then there will be a public statement placed on the record. Of course, not all reasons will be placed on the public record. That's the nature of the landscape.

HOWEVER, in my view, I'm not sure that attempting to denigrate Nakhid's service to football is profitable fodder on a political platform.  I'm sure the opportunity to expand on this view will arise during the course of this thread maturing. I'll bookmark that view for now so as to get to the Shabazz comment.

One question is: on balance, has Shabazz done more good than not in contributing to football since his rehabilitation into national life post-1990? Observers from other societies would contend if the answer is "yes", there is a success story in evidence. What's your answer?

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:23:47 AM »
Are we discussing the same PNM that just rejected Dillon's candidacy? :)

Who Dillon, former army guy? Was he an athlete? Wasn't Gary a national hockey player? He was on both sides of the political divide.

I doubt any notoriety achieved by GG was much influenced by anything that occurred on a hockey field.

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General Discussion / Re: The David Nakhid General Discussion Thread
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:02:09 AM »
Puke :banginghead:

Why yuh banging and hurting yuh head now? It's up to Balisier House to repave the road to Balisier House LONG before elections are around the corner. Repave the road, do a landscaping facelift along the walk-up to the entrance, repaint the door and "touch-up" the welcome signage, and continually re-brand and monitor the internal aesthetics more than cosmetically.

There are no automatic buyers among window-shoppers on a smelly street with two main stores littered with a history of consumer protection and customer service issues. Where you shop probably depends on how you hold your nose ... or to your point, where you don't puke.

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: June 14, 2020, 04:34:59 PM »
Why thes former athletes does turn yellow?!

There's a better question than the one you posed.

Nevertheless, the response to any related question is ... because there is not a perceptibly viable alternative other than "yellow".

Not true! Borel joined PNM. And there are other parties. MSJ, PeP and NOW.

Are we discussing the same PNM that just rejected Dillon's candidacy? :)

Anyhow, the focus is not on anyone who chose the PNM; the focus is on those that opted not to choose the PNM. There's not much of an argument that the UNC has housed prominent athletes. Parties other than the UNC (anyone looking at the UNC is unlikely to have been entertaining the PNM) have not been viewed as perceptibly viable alternatives. That would change if we move to democratic representation based on proportionality (minority parties would get to seat representatives and would unquestionably attract those who regard the two party hegemony as bankrupt).

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General Discussion / The David Nakhid General Discussion Thread
« on: June 14, 2020, 04:21:14 PM »
The following sentence from the UNC media release is noteworthy:

Quote
Mr Nakhid has long been a staunch supporter of the UNC and an avid believer in the leadership of Kamla Persad Bissessar.

This was a necessary declaration with respect to the political leader. Although the legacy of UNC support challenges comprehensive credulity, it is intriguing messaging to the party base. On balance, both of those sentence clauses are the most important elements of the media release. More important than Nakhid's biography and more important than the legwork that facilitated this opportunity.

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: June 14, 2020, 04:05:46 PM »
The writing was on the wall.  Congratulations, David Nakhid. I'll be starting a thread in your name on the General discussion side of the forum. :)

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: June 14, 2020, 03:53:48 PM »
Why thes former athletes does turn yellow?!

There's a better question than the one you posed.

Nevertheless, the response to any related question is ... because there is not a perceptibly viable alternative other than "yellow".

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Football / Re: Kits Thread.
« on: June 12, 2020, 01:23:01 PM »
I don't mind the investigative reporting but where was this from Sports Max over the last 2-3 years?
it wasn’t yet the fullness of time. Yet tbh, either Wallace, Ramesh or both set us up with false hope. I want to believe Wallace is a plant, cause he can’t be so naive. But like the man with the real clout is Ramesh. Or is it, T&T football is just entertainment programming for Heaven and Hell. Like mass and bachanal  is in we DNA.

Ramesh is an emergent force. Like he's been sitting down with Garry Kasparov.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« on: June 12, 2020, 01:10:03 PM »
Never a dull day in that country, there’s always commess bachanal and confusion brewing in every aspect of life on that little island where no body wants to sit down and talk over their differences but rather run to the media, and the dirty media instead of putting the health and mental well being of the nation first, they choose to sell their unhealthy swill to the nation further clogging the intelligence of John public and by extension our children. I’m really beginning to hate this country.

PS. I have a prediction. I believe WW will be successful against fifa, and i’m predicting in a few moanthem fenwick would be out of a job, himself and ramdhan.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« on: June 11, 2020, 04:46:01 PM »
DL = more $.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« on: June 11, 2020, 04:42:50 PM »
Y’all do see that Terry Fenwick is NOT the problem here, right ?

Ent!

At least not yet.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« on: June 10, 2020, 06:00:22 PM »
This is a CLASS A f*ck up. And if it isn't exclusively an A-class muck up, it hadda be an A-class set-up considering Ramdhan's ubiquitous role and Fenwick's ambition.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« on: June 10, 2020, 05:52:52 PM »
Ah whole lot of people wanted Fenwick for the job. Now he got the job, they find the cost too expensive. The man coaching in TT for 20 odd years and they saying that don't count? At the mean time, this new episode should be a wake up call for Terry. He dealing the snakes in the NC. Pure cobras and vipers.

The level of monetization of the Pro League does not support any argument based exclusively on PL experience. In any event, reasonableness ought to permeate contractual terms.

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Football / Re: Aurtis Whitley aka Otis Seaton
« on: June 10, 2020, 05:46:25 PM »
Whitley: I just want to walk again.
By Walter Aibey (Guardian).


“I just want to walk again,” said former national midfielder Aurtis Whitley, who has been confined to his Morvant home since a lancing pain on the right side has left him unable to walk properly.

Whitley, who was an instrumental piece of coach Leo Beenhakker’s Soca Warriors puzzle for the 2006 FIFA World Cup in Germany, has been undergoing tests to determine the status and cause of his problems.

“It is not a stroke but doctors have been unable to say what is wrong and what can be done. I went to the Mt Hope hospital on Monday and I did a CT scan. On Tuesday I went back to Mt Hope to see the doctor but was told I came to see the wrong doctor,” Whitley explained.

The multi-talented attacking midfielder is scheduled to return to the medical facility on Tuesday for more tests, however, a bit dissatisfied with the treatment he has received to date, Whitley said he will first go back on Tuesday before he considers going to a private medical facility.

At 43 years, Whitley has had 41 appearances for the national team from 2000 to 2008 and has made his mark in the T&T Pro League while representing W Connection, a multiple-times winner of the League, and San Juan Jabloteh. He played for Jabloteh between 1998 and 2007, which represented the majority of his career.

He told Guardian Media Sports yesterday the pain has been slowly coming all the way to his right hand, which poses a concern of whether he will not have the proper use of his right hand just as his right foot. He walks with a drag while ongoing severe pain at the same time.

Since news of Whitley’s ailment broke last week, the football fraternity has been both, in shocked and concerned, with many of his former teammates for club and country sending get-well-soon greetings.

Guardian Media Sports understand also that financial assistance is expected to come from the Ministry of Sports and Youth Affairs to help Whitley with his medical expenses.



Allyuh making joke or wha?!!! Sort out Aurtis!!! Acting now is potentially relevant to achieving favourable outcomes.

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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P George Floyd
« on: June 09, 2020, 03:48:33 AM »
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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P George Floyd
« on: June 07, 2020, 06:14:47 PM »
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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P George Floyd
« on: June 07, 2020, 05:12:23 AM »
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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P George Floyd
« on: June 06, 2020, 11:53:29 AM »
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Football / Re: Chris Birchall Thread
« on: June 06, 2020, 11:30:02 AM »
There is not much difference between Birchall and Drew Brees and how each was perceived by his teammates prior to wading into making insensitive comments surrounding race. Brees is said to be a great teammate and affable personality. Same here.

The thing is that there are multiple layers to understanding and internalizing the experience of the other and being a good teammate is an insufficient barometer of completely gleaning the degree to which someone has internalized the experience of the other.

I agree with Sancho. Misinformed. Tone deaf. Absent knowing more,  perhaps a blind spot.  For sure. I agree with maxg and Sancho: educate or fail.

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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P George Floyd
« on: June 06, 2020, 05:17:08 AM »
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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P George Floyd
« on: June 06, 2020, 04:51:40 AM »
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Football / Re: Chris Birchall Thread
« on: June 06, 2020, 04:07:20 AM »
There are a lot of pitfalls around the language of race. Often, as is the case here, a casual or simplified reading leads to a compromising outcome.

Perhaps some of us have read Wired868's chronicling ("shaming", condemnation and call to economic boycott all in one) of several T&T personalities whose visceral reactions to what is happening on the streets led them to automatically "speed-dial" #AllLivesMatter as a response to a PARTICULAR reality. Some of those offending personalities (self-styled socialites and reductionist arbiters of common sense) even went further with advice for Black people (typically an entry point and arena of unsure footing).

Similarly, I've read about an African-American police chief whose attempt to defuse the protest in her city included uttering the words "all lives matter". Somehow,  it didn't occur to her that that contribution was destined to be unhelpful. Unsurprising, they've been calls for her resignation. 

Birchall clearly has a problem with prepositions. That is evident in the "if" in his apology (particularly disappointing for a footballer who likely had media training) and the "but" in his problematic tweet. If we don't accept that he has a problem with prepositions then we have to confront that he has a problem with the value proposition.

Aside from the reflexive suggestion that "all lives matter", there are other "philosophical" difficulties or tensions  that are stimulated by the words "Black lives matter". Indeed, this Birchall situation points to two of them: (1) the idea of a thing being "obvious" is fraught with difficulty and (2) the distinction between "is" and "should". "Black lives should matter" versus "Black lives matter".

Chris, that Black lives should matter is not obvious to everyone. In some quarters Black lives are neither a concern nor a priority. Should that be obvious to you?

Chris, there are others who recognize that Black lives matter and who have set their goals to oppose Black lives from mattering. (By the way, Chris, "and" is a preposition you should probably consider weaving into your tweets).

Further,  some Black people will have difficulty stating what for them is supposedly obvious: my life matters. The thing is that Black Lives Matter is not about stating what is obvious as individuals but is about stating what is not evident in society's handling of what matters and what should matter.

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