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Football / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Thread
« on: September 06, 2021, 07:25:26 AM »
JA would have at least gotten a point if they had their  players from the Gold cup. I think 6 key guys were missing, including Leon Bailey.

Since yesterday loss, they calling for Tappa head. Not an unusual reaction..

I picking these teams to go through:

MEX
USA
CAN

These teams will fight for .5 spot:

CR
HON
PAN
SAL

Jamaica has 3 of their home games at the end of the campaign. Meaning they will need to have at least 10 to 11 points before their final 3 home games to have a chance of fighting for that .5 spot.

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Football / Re: CONCACAF WC Qualifiers 22.
« on: September 05, 2021, 07:49:55 PM »
USA 1 - 1 CAN 77th min.

Alfonso Davies - Best player in Concacaf

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Football / Re: CONCACAF WC Qualifiers 22.
« on: September 05, 2021, 06:14:41 PM »
Don't give that guy your energy Deeks. 

I just watched JA lose to Panama. Jamaica was missing many of their English boys. This tells me the depth of their pool is working against them. 3 - 0 loss at home is a hard one to swallow.

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What about Track & Field / Re: 2021 U-20 Track and Field in Nairobi Kenya
« on: September 05, 2021, 03:37:46 PM »
Like nobody notice U-20 T&F going on in Nairobi. Just by chance flicking thru the channels that I got it on nbcsports. They are about 8 hrs ahead. A 17 year old JA won the women's 100 in fine style. 11.08. A Namibian yuteman won the men 100. A Grenadian and a Cuban were the Caribbean rep, I think the Cuban came in 3rd. That's all folks.

Namibia coming up. I just watch the 19 year old take down Shericka.

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Can anyone tell me when this Normalization Committee term is up?
Apparently they can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Now that they are concentrating on the ladies senior team for a tournament in November, our men will not be playing a SINGLE game during this international break. Our U14's couldn't get a run out in the CFU tournament. Vax or no vax, no information or timeline to resume local football  This is just shameful.     

I don't know. But I do know is time for dem to go.

Not sure if this is true, but when they leave, they hand over the governance to someone only they can choose. In other words when they find that person, they leave that person to run the show. This can be the road of return for Mr you know who. . DJW.

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Football / Re: Kevin Molino Thread.
« on: August 26, 2021, 11:29:56 AM »
In training is probably the worst place to sustain a recurring injury.

Time to think carefully about the future.

At 31 years of age, a recurring injury like this may be a sign that it is time to hutb (Hang up the boots). I doubt any team in the MLS will be interested after the latest blow to him. Speedy recovery. I hope it isnt as bad as it is. Maybe he can work towards an early return for June 2022.

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Yes. Possibly. But most athletes will have an idea where they stand. Who approaches who? Athlete to Administration? Or Administration to Athlete. Trust me, this matters.

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Like nobody notice U-20 T&F going on in Nairobi. Just by chance flicking thru the channels that I got it on nbcsports. They are about 8 hrs ahead. A 17 year old JA won the women's 100 in fine style. 11.08. A Namibian yuteman won the men 100. A Grenadian and a Cuban were the Caribbean rep, I think the Cuban came in 3rd. That's all folks.

Bro I noticed it. When I seen we send 3 athletes (I believe around 10 had standards), I say wtf going on. Bertrand exited in the semis. The hurdler in the 400m dns. It is starting to get depressing now.

How is it that we can send competitors to Kenya, but U-14s cyah reach a neighboring island?

And isn't there a U-23 volleyball tournament in Mexico?

Haven't looked at the specifics, but let's say '10' is accurate ... do you think any sort of conversation would have taken place with the non-travelling standard attained?

I couldn't say. The decisions behind these actions also need a "development program". .

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Like nobody notice U-20 T&F going on in Nairobi. Just by chance flicking thru the channels that I got it on nbcsports. They are about 8 hrs ahead. A 17 year old JA won the women's 100 in fine style. 11.08. A Namibian yuteman won the men 100. A Grenadian and a Cuban were the Caribbean rep, I think the Cuban came in 3rd. That's all folks.

Bro I noticed it. When I seen we send 3 athletes (I believe around 10 had standards), I say wtf going on. Bertrand exited in the semis. The hurdler in the 400m dns. It is starting to get depressing now.

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What about Track & Field / Re: I love T&F but where are our Youths?
« on: August 20, 2021, 10:22:50 AM »
Read some of the recent posts in the Olympic forum. It will give you an idea of the issues we identified.

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Football / Re: Scouting for Talent Thread
« on: August 16, 2021, 12:25:22 PM »
It's possible to get. It might be easier if one of the parents gets a TT passport first.

Do you personally know of anyone who get a passport without having at least one Trini-born parent? Is T&T so anything could happen, but according to the law, one of the parents must be born in T&T.

Yes I do. In fact she played for TT in the u17 world cup. Her grandfather did not give up his TT citizenship when he became a Canadian citizen. Her father was born in Canada. I can't remember the full story. I believe the family moved back to TT when the father was a toddler. Then they returned to Canada when he was 9 or 10. He does have a TT passport. And his daughter played for TT u17 world cup.

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Football / Re: Levi Garcia Thread
« on: August 16, 2021, 11:05:58 AM »
Unlikely that he'll get a work permit

Yes. It will be hard. If he has EU papers, then it might help.

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Football / Re: Scouting for Talent Thread
« on: August 16, 2021, 11:00:53 AM »
Trisitan Abrahams
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I don't think he is eligible, because it's through his grandparents. Just like Inniss and McKenzie. And up to now me eh see nobody like that get a passport. So we'll see.

It's possible to get. It might be easier if one of the parents gets a TT passport first.

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GOP, please, forget about that lil boy, he's not even worth mentioning. when ever grown folks have a difference of opinion and there's no way forward in terms of constructive dialogue, and bad manners finds it's way into the discussion and becomes their first option, then these are people to avoid.

in reality controversial and ABtrini is the only two people i have ever insulted on the forum and only because they are relentless in annoying the members. but prior to this unpleasant encounter i had no reason to mix it up with sando, in fact i've stayed clear of him for the most part simply because he seemed to very aggressive and ill mannered, so i avoided him altogether, i guess i should have continued along those lines and ignored his aggression, i guess first impressions should never be abandoned.

Yeah every now and again we does all bump heads with each other. But somewhere down the line we realize that we fighting for the same cause. And the destructive comments eventually turn into constructive ones with the right minds. .

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gawd on pitch aka drama boy we are waiting on the more drama you say going to happen. You said wait for more drama so we waiting.

Because last few days all I am seeing is the usual after Olympics crying from the few old men in here

What is the drama? Another long facebook post from Ato?  :D

At some point the country will get used to Ato after Olympics/ World Champs social media outbursts. It will just be another one from him.

We are waiting on the drama you seem to be worked up about. 
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Okay Sando, no drama I was wrong. . Your wisdom is God like. .

Now back to the more progressive and constructive aspects of this topic, I think putting more emphasis on the women's program is important. Our women are yet to win a medal. For Jamaica and Bahamas it has traditionally been the opposite. Meaning that there might be barriers in TT preventing women from pursuing track.

Another thing to consider is the emphasis on the 100m. Too many times I have seen at the national championships, 4 and 5 sections for the 100m and not even 5 athletes for one heat of a 400m or 400mh

Start by putting more emphasis on the 400m then push the kids into 100m and 200m.. and even hurdles.

I'm a believer that introducing the 400m before the 100m,  will create better and produce more sprinters. Something about teaching sprinters to run the full track at a young age, helps them measure and manage their race better especially when they go down to the 200 and 100. Also the endurance and stamina needed always helps. The 400m is a good foundation.
you have real patience fam, unlike me. as soon as I saw him all up under ato’s hood I knew he wasn’t worth the effort, not to mention he keeps saying the same bullshit over and over again “unrealistic expectations every four years and after the world games…old man old man old man” now he’s pretending that ato’s only criticism was directed towards the forum members, which only a small portion of his post mentioned the forum, but he ignored a whole article which was specifically aimed at not only the TTO but all sporting federation that send athletes to the olympic games, saying the exact same thing that I have been preaching for years.

people like him sit on a forum and run his mouth continually criticizing people he’s never met, but ask him if he’s ever volunteered his time to any cause? and it might be that he did, but I seriously doubt it. I have been volunteering my services for years coaching children on weekends back in the midlands, and now that I’ve moved to america I’m actually in the process of building a top notch coaching school in trinidad geared towards teaching the game properly and has been liaising with the government and curtain NGOs to get this program off the ground.

we have already done the ground work and has diagnosed the impediments in local football, now it just a waiting game ATM. a few years ago an Italian club wanted to collaborate with a few caribbean countries to develop an academy but had some trouble with the TT delegate, not to mention that things fell all the way through, I believe they were getting better current from the jamaicans but I did not follow up being extremely disappointed at the way things…….did not work out.

so let this little dirty mouth boy continue to talk trash, I’m figuring that’s all he has going for himself anyway so i’m gracious enough to let him have it. in the mean time i’ll continue to offer my knowledge and if people find me annoying and out of sorts then they could kick rocks for all I care. my main objective is to harass these bloody lazy trinis who gets paid to further damage the country, if only there were real journalist in that country like mr jennings.

Well said. And best wishes with the work you are doing.

Now expect the usual name calling from Sando. As we all are still waiting for him to contribute something constructive to this discussion.

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gawd on pitch aka drama boy we are waiting on the more drama you say going to happen. You said wait for more drama so we waiting.

Because last few days all I am seeing is the usual after Olympics crying from the few old men in here

What is the drama? Another long facebook post from Ato?  :D

At some point the country will get used to Ato after Olympics/ World Champs social media outbursts. It will just be another one from him.

We are waiting on the drama you seem to be worked up about. 
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Okay Sando, no drama I was wrong. . Your wisdom is God like. .

Now back to the more progressive and constructive aspects of this topic, I think putting more emphasis on the women's program is important. Our women are yet to win a medal. For Jamaica and Bahamas it has traditionally been the opposite. Meaning that there might be barriers in TT preventing women from pursuing track.

Another thing to consider is the emphasis on the 100m. Too many times I have seen at the national championships, 4 and 5 sections for the 100m and not even 5 athletes for one heat of a 400m or 400mh

Start by putting more emphasis on the 400m then push the kids into 100m and 200m.. and even hurdles.

I'm a believer that introducing the 400m before the 100m,  will create better and produce more sprinters. Something about teaching sprinters to run the full track at a young age, helps them measure and manage their race better especially when they go down to the 200 and 100. Also the endurance and stamina needed always helps. The 400m is a good foundation.

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Sando Prince, how is it that you and Ato concur ... but Ato delivers constructively and you deliver destructively?

Thank you.

It does reach a point where you can either expect and accept the poor performance as the norm. Or revamp the system with progressive approaches to prevent the expected outcomes.

Sando, which one are you for? Or should I be asking?

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 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Old man energy on an internet forum

Yuh turning into a rell troll or what now. .  :rotfl:

Pullstones, there are about 3 articles in TT Newsday discussing the same matter. In a way I see what Sando saying. . This uproar at the end of the games is becoming the norm.

Ato called out the TTNAAA big time. The TTNAAA ran away like a dog with their tails between their legs and refused to comment about Ato's comments. Like I said previously, if Ato was to get involved, and had say, more than half of them jokers in the TTNAAA will be out of a paycheck.

More drama coming with this. Yuh go see


How long should we wait for this so called more drama?

Just another long usual after Olympics/World Champs facebook post from Ato is the only drama you going to get or can expect.

But we waiting for this next drama you excited about



The "drama" drawing attention to the matter. Whether or not change occurs, this is how issues get pu out in the open. Again if something comes out of this, that is a whole different story.

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 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Old man energy on an internet forum

Yuh turning into a rell troll or what now. .  :rotfl:

Pullstones, there are about 3 articles in TT Newsday discussing the same matter. In a way I see what Sando saying. . This uproar at the end of the games is becoming the norm.

Ato called out the TTNAAA big time. The TTNAAA ran away like a dog with their tails between their legs and refused to comment about Ato's comments. Like I said previously, if Ato was to get involved, and had say, more than half of them jokers in the TTNAAA will be out of a paycheck.

More drama coming with this. Yuh go see

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I was waiting for Ato to speak about the performance. I know he wasnt going to hold back.
Good for him. It's the sport he's passionate about and was outstanding at the highest levels. He of all people has the cachet to put them on blast. 

Absolutely. These guys running the show do not want to be told what to do. Especially from someone who has that cache. They would rather have people around who keep them in they comfort zone.
why don’t that tosser from sando call ato an old complaining nuisance? after all he basically repeated my exact sentiments, he’s here complaining about our failure at the olympics and the lack of developmental programs together with the cluelessness of the respective federation presidents in charge of these sport disciplines, and he’s not on the forum like he used too be and he’s up in age like I am, or is it that they love to jump on people they don’t deem as important?

what ato said could easily apply to any sporting body in TT just like I have outlined in recent times, and he’s 100% correct. it’s a bunch of self important unconscionable clueless trinis who’s in charge of sports on that island, and the majority of them are without degrees or qualification to hold down these portfolios, yet their friends and former colleagues in the sport has given them the vote of confidence to further destroy the sport. how many years must the public suffer as a result of nepotism.

a perfect example was angus eve’s performance at the gold cup, his friends in the sport like Clayton Morris and the fearless one has given him a passing grade to continue although he has won not a single game in the gold cup while losing out to guatemala a game he should have won. if terry fenwick had done what he did vs mexico the whole country would have been inundated with negative comments claiming how it was the worst game we ever played, but since it was one of their good friends they claimed it was a brilliant strategy. this is the rubbish we TT supporters have to contend with from these so called sport legends and vision less administrators,

and there are fools who’s claiming that we shouldn’t expect any better because that’s the norm, and only because you don’t frequent a section of a certain message board you shouldn’t complain, oh yeh? well is time to change the norm says not only me, but the king of track and field in trinbago, a man with 4 Olympic medals.

Yeah I with you on that Pullstones. Maybe the Eve analogy might not be the best. But your points got my support.

Sando was just a bit disappointed like all of us. I've been there too. I sure he has faith that if the right people were involved with athletics in TT, the results will be better.

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I was waiting for Ato to speak about the performance. I know he wasnt going to hold back.
Good for him. It's the sport he's passionate about and was outstanding at the highest levels. He of all people has the cachet to put them on blast. 

Absolutely. These guys running the show do not want to be told what to do. Especially from someone who has that cache. They would rather have people around who keep them in they comfort zone.

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I was waiting for Ato to speak about the performance. I know he wasnt going to hold back.

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https://newsday.co.tt/2021/08/09/boldon-amateur-approach-has-left-trinidad-and-tobago-athletics-trailing/

Boldon: 'Amateur' approach has left Trinidad and Tobago athletics trailing

FORMER sprint star Ato Boldon has blasted the "amateur" approach to track and field in Trinidad and Tobago, after he accurately predicted the country would end the 2020 Olympic Games without an athletics medal.

In fact, TT ended the games without a medal in any sport – the first time since the 1992 Barcelona edition.

Boldon expressed his frustration on Sunday as the curtains came down on the Tokyo Games, pointing fingers at the body in charge of track and field in TT – the National Association of Athletics Administrations (NAAA).

Boldon has openly criticised the NAAA for years.

Boldon is a four-time Olympic medallist – two medals apiece at the 1996 Atlanta and 2000 Sydney Games – and a World Championship (1997) 200m champion.

The build-up to the 2020 Olympics was not ideal as the local-based TT athletes were hampered by the covid19 pandemic. Many complained about lack of access to training facilities. The Government did allow training for teams and athletes preparing for international competition but there were still many challenges for the athletes.

Boldon, who did commentary during the Tokyo Games, is the lead track and field analyst for NBC Sports Group.

In a post on Facebook he said, “Oh, the irony of the winning Jamaican women’s (4x100m) team being plastered on the front page of the Trinidad and Tobago Guardian. We were third behind them in 2015 at the World Championships.”

TT did not advance past the heats in Tokyo in the women’s 4x100m event.

Boldon asked rhetorically what changes would be made for the 2024 Paris Olympics.

“Same dotishness, same jokers talking a set of annual rubbish, same 1970s thinking, same personal agendas, same relay coaching roulette, same pretending sh---- Carifta/junior results are ok, same ‘we not changing a damn thing, this good enough.’

"Vex with me if you want for pointing out the obvious, but you vex with the wrong person."

For the first time since the 1988 Seoul Olympics TT did not have a representative in the men's 100m event.

The 2018 Commonwealth 100m champ, Michelle-Lee Ahye, narrowly missed a spot in the women's final.

The national men and women's 4x100 teams exited in the preliminary heats.

Four TT track and field athletes/teams qualified for finals for TT. Debutants Portious Warren (shot put) and Tyra Gittens (long jump) qualified for finals, placing 11th and tenth, respectively.

In the men's 200m final, Jereem Richards, on his Olympic debut, was eighth. He was part of the 4x400m relay men who competed in the final. They finished eighth after Dwight St Hillaire injured his hamstring on the third leg.

Boldon lamented, "We have been left behind by so many countries at the highest level of sport because we are stuck doing the same AMATEUR things and expecting a different result. It pains me to see where things are now.”

Boldon later mentioned the NAAA as he tweeted, “The beatings will continue until morale improves.”

In a Newsday interview in early June, Boldon said, “I’ve said it before and I will say it again, it is going to be a rough Olympics for us.

“We don’t have anybody right now that is a medal contender…that could change like I said, but right now on June 2, 2021 we do not have anybody in any event or a relay that is a medal contender.”

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1. I remember stumbling upon the existence of/the coming of World Junior Champs. Saw a reference to it in a running magazine. Other than that WJC seemed to be a secret activity from the T&T perspective. The magazine had a list of the World Junior records and qualifying standards. That was a 💡 moment because prior to seeing that info I had insufficient to NO context on what times were to be targeted in my age group or were realistic beyond T&T airspace. I knew what the pros were running as a distant reference ... mixed in with some optimistic notion that junior level numbers should/would whittle over time. Shouldn't someone have been informing me?

Would have been a different experience for 1/4 milers and lower. Other than that, it was a desert.

2. We might not have been lighting up medal ceremonies at the Olympics but world-class runners were frequently in T&T and they were all very approachable and easy to engage. And that counted for something.

Contrast that with a lack of mentorship among locals. Not a nurturing scene really. It was sink or swim or quit or prepare.
Good points there Asylumseeker.

It's funny that men in here can identify the problems facing. But them old heads running the show, seem to don't know their ass from their elbow.

Meh old man told me in the 50s and 60s Track was becoming very popular. Told me a story how him, and Leroy DeLeon brother (I forget his name) was on the track team. Deleon was trying to encourage my dad to do the hurdles. Because all the footballers that were doing track, were all doing the 100, 200 and 400. Apparently DeLeon was good at hurdles too and could have easily made the 72 and 76 team.

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1. Some schools have more or less killed "Sports Day" ... with that in progress, how much prestige or influence could athletics bodies have at schools or in the country? Athletics bodies should be lobbying and raising awareness and heightening the prestige of T&F. However, there seems to be a limited view of the level of activism required.

Athletes would like seats filled and fans applauding, but if there are next to no fans, at a minimum they would like to have events at which to participate.

Woeful situation.
When I was in college my roommate for 2 years was on the track team and he was from JA. His friend from secondary school in JA transferred in from TCU and was on the track team as well. I also had a teammate on the football team from JA and the 4 of us would lime in my room at nights and often times they would speak about the biggest track and field event in JA secondary schools, "Champs". According to them it is the granddaddy of all track and field events. Packed stadium each day, seemed like everybody and they mammy showed up. The atmosphere they described didn't come close to secondary schools sports day in the Hasely Crawford stadium and that used to be a big thing.
They also used to tell me about Marc Burns and Richard Thompson, they had nuff respect for them in the words of my roommate "dem men dey tuff mi yute....bombaclaaaaaaaat"

You sure it wasn't Darrel Brown they liked too? Darrel Brown moved to Jamaica to train with MVP (Asafa, Shelly Ann). Darrel got a lot of love from the Jamaicans. When he won the WJ in Jamaica, the talk was that him and Bolt will be the kings of Track and field. I know this because I know his cousin well.

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is Tobago. Tobago has produced 3 WC medalists despite being only 55k,  Quow, Baptiste and Lucas. The secondary schools in Tobago often perform way better than the secondary schools in Trinidad at the secondary school championships. Tobago is doing a better job in taking their athletics serious at secondary school.

Next thing too is encouraging the other events. Most who get into track only want to do the 100 and 200. Especially among the girls.

The field events are getting some interest. But still there should be more.

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So I was talking to my good friend Mike Grayson about the situation. He also ran track for QRC in its hey days early 70s. Everything everybody is saying about TT T&F is correct. He said that ethnic demographics is one part of a number of problems. It causes the talent pool to shrink. He said we have to get the other half of the population to encourage their children to participate in sports. He does not see why. If they could run jump throw back in cricket like everyone else, why not football, basketball, swimming, TF, rugby, etc.

He said people always comparing us with JA. That is a reasonable argument. Their talent pool is huge compare to TT. Their primary school system has massive local and regional participation is sports.

Plus there is the issue to TT primary school system. He said a substantial amount of primary schools don't have schools sport or particpate in local area school sports. He is not even sure they have PE. In addition, when common entrance comes around most parents want their children "beating book" and taking lessons for a spot for high school not playing sports. Carnival already consume a lot of the nations energy, it is too much for country with a small talent pool.

He alluded to high schools where football is the primary goal for the yutes because of potential pro contracts or scholarships. yes, there is TF scholarships but football grabs their attention. He mention that while coaching at St. Augustine and Arima, many a times he saw some of these players as good prospect for TF. But they stuck with football.

There are issues of funding, accountability, qualified coaches and many more. Where to start is the question. We only have 3 years for Paris.


Thank you for that Deeks. Just as what I and others suggested. . Start on the primary and secondary school level.

The point about directing footballers with exceptional speed into athletics is good. I remember reading an article in the Jamaica Observer where they talked about 3 youth who were originally footballers playing on Jamaica under 18 or 19 team, were redirected into athletics. One of them even won a medal at world juniors. I think his name is Jaheel Hyde. So it goes to show Jamaica already has something what your friend is talking about. . However we don't. Ato was almost a victim of this. It wasn't until he was in the US, that he was encouraged to pursue track over football.

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I am not going to waste my time like you in here bro. I never had any expectations for T&T doing well. Since Ato was running for T&T how well was the team doing? He was the only one winning medals. You guys pretend T&T at some point was a good Track and Field nation because of what exactly? winning one medal every Olympics? After 1976 we did not win a medal until 1996 so how is this new? and every Olympics the ones who do not follow and understand come with absurd expectations for medals.

This was my last comment.

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You're right about that Sando. But you're wrong about "you"not having any expectations. Check your past posts in the track and field forum. I'm just saying. .
mate you’re wasting your time with a fool, and I’m not calling him a fool because he’s a tool, I’m calling him a fool because he is. just listen to his rationale, we don’t normally do good at athletics and our failure over the years is ample proof, well duh, of course we’re not gonna win anything at any sports disciple because as I said repeatedly our sports administrators suck, and not only them but our ministry of sports also suck as well as the corporate sector who has failed miserably to invest a penny in any sport developmental programs with the exception of cricket.

So tell me why do we even bother to attend the Olympics, the World Cup qualifiers, the gold cup or CCL if we’re gonna lose? in fact why even waste money trying, better yet why not defund the sport ministry and redirect funds to more pressing areas like health or education and forget sports altogether? by saying well I don’t expect us to win anything because we only win a medal every ten years, is piss poor thinking, when the real discussions (by someone who actually use their brains) should be, why not fire everyone involved in our sporting discipline and hire people who actually know how to develop athletes, footballers, basketballers etc and put our tax and oil dollars to use?

TT needs to stop this retarded notion of “let we give we own local good ole boys a chance instead of running to foreigners” and actually invest in developmental programs for sports men and women. we have the money now all we need to do is build the facilities and hire real dedicated capable people to develop our athletes and quit with this local vs foreign bullshit.

I don’t have a problem with locals involvement in sports, but they must be well qualified and have experience in other countries gaining valuable knowledge of their sporting discipline, but don’t bring me some jealous minded big mouth boy who just looking for a job but never even left the island to study abroad but wants to be highly considered, IMO that’s been what hamstringing us for decades.

I believe we should make it mandatory for every sport administrator to have experience elsewhere and a degree in their respective field to even apply for the post, same with coaches, you must have all your qualifications by international standards and you must spend time in a solid league plying your trade in order to come home and stand any chance of teaching our children.

we should have a no nonsense approach where no shit hounds are allowed to just walk in and find employment. and until we are critically serious about sports, then we will be losing every time we step out to compete and have the mind set that we’re not expecting anything great to happen because it usually don’t, and it usually don’t because we don’t prepare well or put in the work to ensure success, and that’s all that’s about.

BTW jamaica used to be just like us winning medals now and again, that is until they decided to invest heavily in athletics, their efforts are now paying dividends, just ask yourself which US college did usain bolt attended? his development started and ended right there in Kingston, him and quite a few athletes who are all accomplished Olympians.

so don’t study those fools who living in trinidad, they’re all extremely insecure and when faced with outside competition their nepotism and xenophobia jumps out like a wild cat trapped in a closet, just listen to that dunce sando, all he have is a bitter venomous colloquial tongue, but could offer no sensible advice, just insults, what a wank job.

100% Pull stones. I remember when Jamaica was winning less than 5 medals. Obviously they figured out something. Jamaica success aint because of yam or the Jamaicans having an extra twitch muscle in they foot. Their success was in the making. Look at Carifta and the world juniors. It was coming. Now they reap the benefits.

Again Sando my question to you is. . What can TT do to increase success in athletics? That is what I want to hear from you. . Pull stones and the other posters can give some ideas and opinions on what is going on. I would like to hear your version.. I aint trying to fight you down on anything pardna.. I/we just looking for answers, as we all are just as disappointed as you.

My problem with this mess is that we have a guy like Ato, who clearly has a lot of knowledge and is willing to share his expertise to get this ship sailing. However, those old heads have not made any attempts to get Ato involved. I could be wrong, but I believe there was a time Ato was lending his expertise informally to the administration. I honestly believe that some of these old heads (mentality not age) are concerned that a guy like Ato will STEAL their thunder. Rightfully so. .

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Pull Stones I will not even waste time with you old man. Keep your old dry stones in your hands and apparently in your mouth. If you do not understand my posts is telling people like you why YOU care when YOU really dont care and dont know what is going and only here to see who win a medal so sit your old ass down. Olympics done now you can go back to your regular programming you cunny hole

In 2012 Trinidad and Tobago won 4 medals

In 2016 Trinidad and Tobago won 1 medal

In 2021 Trinidad and Tobago won 0 medals

At this rate, they will be giving back medals at the next Olympics. .

Ato pointed this out after 2016. The TTNAAA was on a high in 2012. We win 4 medals with little support from them. Hence, they ain't improve or made any adjustments to their administrative delivery. Why? Because they thought the little effort they put to prepare the team for London was enough. London had 8 finalists.. Tokyo 2 finalist.

And how many medals won in 2004 ? 0 medals in track and field

And how many medals won in 2008? 1 medal was won when that Olympics was done. 2nd medal for teh realy years later.

The point being made is our usual trajectory is 0 to 1 medals. You can keep harping about 2012 from now until you die

And T&T had three individual finalists in Tokyo not two as you said.
Warren, Gittens, Richards

Simply talking to you is like going around in circles. You seem to not grasp with what is being said and forgot what was said earlier

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Let's try to have a discussion without name calling or any attacks.. Yes we all are disappointed, because we SUPPORT and hold high regards for the athletes.

Anyways, any improved performance in any sport always raises expectations i.e. London. We were hoping London was not an anomaly. Most of us thought that London was a sign that we had the potential to leave with the Olympics with medals. . In fact, after London Richard Thompson said something along the lines of . . " we won 4 medals in London, Jamaica won 5 in Athens 2004, so this is a sign that we are getting there" (paraphrasing). .

Yes we all are disappointed Sando, but arguing with the supporters on here about how they only show support every 2 or 4 years is not constructive at all. At least give an opinion about how this mess can be solved.

Finally, if you are suggesting that having no expectations is the right approach, then my question to you is, what about the athletes? The fact that they participate and compete shows that they at least have expectations to win something. So should the athletes that are training hard and making sacrifices go into competition with expectations of losing? You tell me. .

Sando we can throw all cheap shots at each other. And every now and again it adds flavor to the discussion, but it always reaches a point where we need to put emotions to the side and discuss this issue more objectively. How are we helping the situation if we ain't contributing to building with each other vs destroying each other. .


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I am not going to waste my time like you in here bro. I never had any expectations for T&T doing well. Since Ato was running for T&T how well was the team doing? He was the only one winning medals. You guys pretend T&T at some point was a good Track and Field nation because of what exactly? winning one medal every Olympics? After 1976 we did not win a medal until 1996 so how is this new? and every Olympics the ones who do not follow and understand come with absurd expectations for medals.

This was my last comment.

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You're right about that Sando. But you're wrong about "you"not having any expectations. Check your past posts in the track and field forum. I'm just saying. .

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