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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 23, 2011, 09:54:26 AM »
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/816918-arsenal-fc-star-defections-put-gunners-youth-philosophy-at-a-crossroads

Arsenal FC: Star Defections Put Gunners Youth Philosophy at a Crossroads

Arsene Wenger must choose a clear direction for Arsenal and fast.  The sale of star skipper Cesc Fabregas along with the club's confirmation that Samir Nasri is joining top four rivals Manchester City, have presented a tricky dilemma for Wenger.

The heart of the issue is simple.  If Wenger is serious about pursuing Premier League and European glory, then money must be spent on established stars.

But if the club remain committed to developing youth, then expectations have to become more realistic in order to reflect this stance.

The existing squad cannot possibly be expected to compete with the big spending Manchester duo and Chelsea.  Arsenal simply do not possess the quality to win enough games to secure the top trophies.

For all the plaudits currently being given to Manchester United, commending their own efforts to go with young talent, the league Champions have still spent close to £50 million this summer.

Their bench for yesterday's customary demolition of Tottenham Hotspur featured Dimitar Berbatov and Javier Hernandez.


The addition of Juan Mata makes facing Chelsea an even more daunting task than usual.  Manchester City have shown in their first two league fixtures the depth of quality attacking resources at Roberto Mancini's disposal.

If Arsenal really expect to challenge alongside these expensively assembled squads, then the Gunners need better players.

Wenger with the support of the board must back their supposed intent with the finances needed to secure superior talent.

Conversely if the club are still focused on operating on a budget and unearthing younger, cheaper talents, then this needs to be reflected more in the first-team squad.

This means that instead of parting with huge fees to find like for like replacements for Fabgregas and Nasri, Arsenal should promote from within.

True youth development means elevating an emerging talent like Kyle Ebecilio or Chuks Aneke.  Not turning to under performing second tier players like Abou Diaby and Tomas Rosicky who have had long enough to convince.

One of the most disappointing aspects of Saturday's defeat to Liverpool was the sight of Nicklas Bendtner entering the fray.


The inconsistent striker has been angling for a move all summer.  But Wenger still turned to the Danish international to replace a very ineffective Theo Walcott.

If Bendtner continues to be the alternative then why buy Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain?  Why go to the trouble of obtaining a work permit for Ryo Miyaichi?

If the philosophy is about giving youngsters a chance then why not go with Chamberlain or Miyaichi?  If Chamberlain is not ready to supplant Bendtner for a league game, then isn't the fee paid for him a waste?

The money spent on Chamberlain could have instead been put towards the purchase of an established player, ready to add something to the starting 11 immediately.

Signing talented players at the age of 17 and holding them back from first team action until their early twenties does not constitute a true youth philosophy.

It is this inconsistency in the club's direction that led to Samir Nasri starting against Liverpool.  Instead of picking a player counting down the days until he jumps ship, a promising youngster could have been given the chance to stake his claim.

Arsenal's incoherent philosophy has left the squad in a state of limbo and created unrealistic and over bearing expectations for success.

To be genuine contenders money will have to be spent.  The arrival of marquee signings means the club will have to live with the resulting delay to the development of youngsters like Aaron Ramsey, Kieran Gibbs and Emmanuel Frimpong.  This will be the price of attaining major honours.

If Arsene Wenger and the board won't or can't engage in lavish spending aimed at a quick fix, then they must temper expectations for the young squad.

Arsenal's contradictory approach to team building has created a worrying malaise.  Trying to claim the sport's biggest prizes with a cheap and insufficient talent base has led to tremendous tension between the club's hierarchy and fans.

Arsene Wenger has to decide on a single, coherent strategy to rebuild his team, or further angry recriminations are in store as the season progresses.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3767634/Ian-Wright-tells-Arsene-Wenger-The-whole-world-can-see-how-low-Arsenal-we-are.html

The whole world can see how low we are, Arsene....


IT is a disturbing image I cannot get out of my mind - Arsene Wenger sitting there soaked to the skin with his head bowed into his hands.
This shocking sight during last Saturday's 2-0 home defeat by Liverpool screamed out such a depressing message about life at Arsenal Football Club today.

Here was an act of desperation, a very worried man sitting there frantically rubbing his head in frustration and exasperation.

A man who looks like he feels the whole world is closing in on him.

A man who is witnessing everything going wrong all around him but who feels utterly powerless to intervene.

It is such a powerful, emotive picture that it will have gone all around the world by now.

Every football fan will have seen it, every football player will have seen it, every football club chairman will have seen it.

Whoever Arsenal go for now in the market it will be at an inflated price. Everyone can see they are desperate.

No wonder Valencia's Juan Mata has just chosen to sign for Chelsea ahead of the Gunners.

It really is a no-brainer for the lad, isn't it?

Let us be honest, any top player would have to think twice about signing for Arsenal right now.

Any top-quality international who had a choice would seriously have to consider going elsewhere and, though I love Arsenal, I can understand it.

Listen, when I had my chance to join them I did not hesitate for a moment.

I was so keen I did not even bother how much was in my contract. I was just happy for my agent to make the deal.

A lot of that was because of the players already there, players proud to wear the red shirt of Arsenal.

But these days it is a totally different story.

I know it is early in the season but, at present, I see Arsenal as a club in freefall.

They are like a skydiver who has just leapt out of a plane and realised his parachute will not deploy.

For me, it seems the whole club's structure is finally reaping what it has sown.

Wenger has had to put so much faith in his youth policy and wanting to prove that he can indeed win with youngsters.

But now he is finding it has become a bridge too far.

It is a sobering situation. The idea Arsenal may not be in the Champions League this season should be unthinkable.

They have been in it every year since it started but this time are having to qualify.


I never thought qualification was a given, especially after the Gunners drew Udinese.

And I am telling you the Italians will really fancy their chances of knocking Arsenal out.

Arsenal may be 1-0 up but Udinese showed at the Emirates they are a very dangerous side who can cause plenty of problems.

They will be even more dangerous at home, especially against a team with so many inexperienced players having to perform under such incredible pressure.

So the fact that Wenger has just been banished to the stands once again for the match is the least of his worries in a game in which so much is at stake.

I think this is the most important game in the whole of Arsene Wenger's tenure at Arsenal.

That is no exaggeration and I have to admit that I am really worried.

It is no secret the club is at a major crossroads. But I have been warning this day would come for years and years.

I have been calling on Wenger and the board to bring in some quality and experience to go alongside all those talented youngsters.

David Villa would have been brilliant for Arsenal.

David Silva would have been brilliant for Arsenal.

Wesley Sneijder would have been brilliant for Arsenal.

Edin Dzeko would have been brilliant for Arsenal.

Phil Jones or Chris Smalling would have been brilliant for Arsenal.

All those players have been available recently and a great club like Arsenal should have been out there competing fiercely for their signatures.

They were not.

And that is why it has come to this - Arsenal now in danger of going out of the Champions League and finishing sixth, seventh or eighth in the Premier League when they are expected to fight for the title.

It gives me no pleasure at all to say that. In fact, it hurts.

I have never said anything derogatory about Arsenal in my life. I have only ever told the truth.

And the truth to me is that the club has let down both the players and the fans.

I am sure when those players signed their contracts at Arsenal, they were expecting to win trophies and compete at the highest level.

I am sure they were also expecting some top-name stars to be signed to help achieve that.

But they have been let down and it is a crying shame.

It has cost the club Thierry Henry, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Gael Clichy, Cesc Fabregas and probably Samir Nasri too.

Who will be next to leave? Robin van Persie?

Personally, I cannot see Jack Wilshere staying put for long either if the situation does not change.

Like the rest, the England midfielder will be leaving Arsenal for a bigger club where there is more chance of silverware.

And I never thought I would ever hear myself say that!

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 08, 2011, 04:01:50 PM »
But Touches, since them men leave Arsenal hasn't won anything either! So yuh might as well go to another team and try-a-thing (with more pay). So your stubborn employer stalling, don't want to invest in the company by bringing in a couple experienced people to get you to the top. Other "big" companies offering you more cash to try help get them to the top. You will stay at that old job? It's one thing to be a part of something special, that you think is going somewhere, but when you look over to your rivals and they are more committed than you to winning? Which man wouldn't bounce?

Question...in recent history...besides Ashley Cole and Thierry Henry, who has left Arsenal and done "well"

There are plenty to add to the list but to me once you leave arsenal seeking green pastures it doh usually work out for you. You might get a sweat and extend yuh career..but to me I think Wenger usually lets you go at the right time.

1) Lassana Diara..went portmouth,chelsea, real..only at real he made an impact.

2) David Bently...good for rovers and salt

3) Francis Jeffers..nuttin

4) Jeremy Aliadiere..where he gone

5) Flamini...sub bench at AC Milan

6) Viera win ting with Inter but was on the decline

7) Reyes...alyuh hear from he since

8)Van Bronkhorst...win ting with Barca (he do good)

9)Henry win a CL with Barca

10)Ashley Cole...the best of the lot, win premiership, FA Cup

11) Pires...floundering around

12) Hleb...shit at barca..downhill at birmingham

13) Toure...banned substance in Man C and suspended

14) Kanu...win a FA cup with portsmouth and ketch a length in he ole age and a heart attack as well.

15) Wiltord..???

16) Sol Campbell...gorn tru...tabanca mash him up

17) Gallas...trying a ting at Spurs doing fairly ok. But won nuttin.

18) Gilberto Silva...???

19) Adebayor...can't find a place to call home.

20) Clichy...now too too down heself Sunday in the Carity Shield

21) Cesc...looking to sell house, take pay cut to warm bench with Barca.

22) Nasri..1/2 a good season and feel he in ting...to go Man city and bench or ManU...hrm.

Is it me or does the Arsenal Blight follow you when you leave...very few have done well once leaving Arsenal.

Cesc and Nasri should take note.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FORWARD
« on: August 02, 2011, 06:49:26 AM »
Pennywise and pound foolish.


Yuh mean.....Pound wise and silver foolish!

Haha!!!!

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Football / Re: 2011 Champions League Final.
« on: May 05, 2011, 12:30:02 PM »
Well done smallmag. When men bowl york, is 6 they bound to colleck.  How these Arsenal men still have a f*cking voice (and a strong one to boot) does amaze me... As yuh say, 6 years, f*ck all.... Gunnerstunner hold yuh tongue about other teams till your team relevant again nah... Instead let's talk about the FA conspiracy to let Birmingham win the Carling Cup!!!  Losers!!! Haha..

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: March 22, 2011, 09:45:01 AM »
The menu for Arsenal's end of season dinner has been leaked online:

STARTERS
Egg on Face
Seasoned Hash
Frogs Legs (Past their best)
Spanish Surprise (Well Beaten)

MAIN COURSE
Humble Pie
Chump Chops
French (has) Beans
Managers Beef (not rare)
Catch of the Day (gutted)
NB: Everything is imported, nothing is homegrown

DESSERT
Sour Grapes (May be hard to swallow)
Fruitless Tarts
Raspberry Fools
Hard Cheese

DRINKS
Bitter
French Whine
Cabernet Empty 2005/06/07/08/09/10/11
Champagne (sorry none ordered)

STRICTLY NO DOUBLES OR TREBLES
NB: Drinks should be consumed from plastic
glasses as there will be no cups this year


http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/snet-897363

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Football / Re: Gattuso's antics
« on: February 16, 2011, 10:40:38 AM »
As a professional and veteran, Gatusso should have heard everything that anyone can say to him.  Words do not allow PROFESSIONALS the right to put their hands on someone else.

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: October 03, 2010, 06:00:07 PM »
Drogba is an Arsenal Legend!

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 19, 2010, 03:00:12 PM »
Why play for Barcelona Lite, when you can represent the real thing?

It's Arsenal Who Owe Cesc...

Fabregas was always going to be a star, which is exactly why Wenger poached him from Barcelona. And don't kid yourself that he wouldn't have had a chance at Barca by now, the boy is top class, far far superior to the likes of Sergio Busquets, Keita, and Toure. What Cesc owes Arsenal he has paid back in spades, with more goals, assists, and leadership, dragging a team nowhere near the quality of Chelsea or Man Utd in to contention for the title this season and in previous seasons. Never complaining, never having tantrums and letting his team mates down, like some former captains. He has been sensational.

If anyone is owed anything, Arsenal and Wenger owe him a team worthy of him, not to surround him in midfield with the likes of Denilson and Diaby. After three or four years of empty promises and pathetic collapses, can you really blame him for leaving? You accuse him of whining? When exactly? You say Wenger has earned your respect because he's delivered trophies in the dim and distant past, but Cesc hasn't. He was supposed to do it single handedly was he, with maybe half a season's help from RVP? You're deluded. He could have left at any point in the last three or four years but has shown loyalty and love for the club. Unfortunately his ambition hasn't been matched by his manager or the board.

If he goes it will be a great shame for English football as he is world class and a pleasure to watch, and is yet another top player leaving our league, but to blame him is ridiculous and frankly if that's your attitude you don't deserve him.
Richard Strzeleki (some blogger on guardian football website)

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Football / Re: Inter’s Balotelli fined for mocking fans
« on: May 06, 2010, 03:21:38 PM »
Where are all the fckin retards on this site, that does come here jumping on BLACK-super-talented-grew-up-in-racist-Italy Balloteli's back, when he toss a fckin jersey or make gestures to the fans?  If a "world class" player like Totti is willing to kick this boy down like a dog in front of cameras and not worry bout consequence, WHAT THE FCK YALL think does happen behind the scenes?  Use your imagination!  None has lived a day in his shoes, seen, heard or experienced the things he has HIS ENTIRE LIFE, from these Racist, Fascist, Disgusting people....

When you born and grow in that kinda hatred, a young man, and just figuring yourself out, yuh bound to act out...

On a lighter note.... Come Chelsea boy... Drogba getting old...

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possesion...vz..position...this man is out of this world....
Ali did not go toe to toe with Foreman///rope ah dope..its now called history//
the special one is special....he is taking detail and tatics to a new level
that statement will take special minds

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

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Football / Worst EPL Signings of the Season:
« on: April 24, 2010, 01:21:51 AM »
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=774717&sec=england&root=england&cc=5901

It is the time of year when attention turns towards football's end-of-season awards. While there are Oscar equivalents to reward the worthy, the game could benefit from its version of Razzies, honouring the unsuccessful. And in that spirit, here are the nominations for the worst signing of the season.

10. Gabriel Obertan (Manchester United, £3 million)

He can run rather quickly and likes a stepover, but there the similarities to Cristiano Ronaldo end. Admittedly, Antonio Valencia was a more direct replacement for the Portuguese than the untried Frenchman and there is still time for the 21-year-old to make an impact but, before reappearing at the end of the Manchester derby, Obertan had disappeared off the radar, suggesting he is near the back of a long queue of wingers.

9. Diego Arismendi (Stoke, £2.5 million)

He came, he saw, he vanished without trace. Diego Arismendi was supposed to add another dimension to the Stoke midfield. Instead, he has barely figured in it. The Uruguayan has only played in two Carling Cup games: he was hauled off at half-time in the first, but completed the second, a 4-0 defeat to Portsmouth. He has since been loaned to Brighton, managed by his compatriot Gus Poyet, but the fact that half of his four appearances in League One have been as a replacement indicates he has endured difficulties there, too.

8. Tal Ben Haim (Portsmouth, undisclosed)

Since excelling at Bolton, Tal Ben Haim has made an unfortunate habit of appearing on such lists. Moves to Chelsea, Manchester City and Sunderland can hardly be called successes. Nor, following his August switch from Eastlands, can his stint at Portsmouth be judged favourably. For the first half of the campaign, he was unable to displace Marc Wilson and Younes Kaboul from the central defensive positions. Subsequent appearances have been underwhelming and, with the fire sale at Fratton Park set to continue, Pompey may find themselves counting the cost of giving Ben Haim what is thought to be a lucrative four-year contract.

7. Manuel da Costa (West Ham, swap)

There is such a thing as cause and effect in trading. West Ham made Savio Nsereko their record signing last season. When he underachieved, the forward was exchanged for Fiorentina centre back Manuel da Costa. Around the same time, West Ham sold James Collins to Aston Villa, where the Welshman has proved himself to be one of the division's most dependable defenders. The same cannot be said for Da Costa: West Ham have conceded 18 goals in the nine games he has started.

6. Mike Williamson (Portsmouth, £3 million)

For those wondering why Portsmouth plunged into administration, a glance at Mike Williamson's recent career should offer an insight. Signed for £3 million and sold five months later for £1 million, the former Watford defender never made an appearance for Pompey before being transferred to Newcastle. Even before wages, agents' fees and a signing-on fee are taken into account, that is a loss of £2 million with no discernible benefit to Portsmouth. It is hardly his fault but, from a financial perspective, he was a terrible buy.

5. Benni McCarthy (West Ham, £2.25 million)

It is not a particularly enjoyable admission to make, but perhaps Sam Allardyce was right. The Blackburn manager questioned Benni McCarthy's fitness and work-rate before selling him. Since then, a fee of £2.25 million and a lucrative two-and-a-half year deal has bought West Ham a grand total of 155 minutes' ineffective football, no goals and no points. All five games in which he has appeared have resulted in defeat. McCarthy may be (just) slimmer than Mido, but he is a much bigger investment.

4. Roque Santa Cruz (Manchester City, £18 million)

Sometimes the phrase "more money than sense" does apply. There was only one serious bidder for Roque Santa Cruz and his lengthy injury record should have been used to drive the price down: instead, Manchester City paid £18 million to acquire a man who has spent much of the season either on the bench or the treatment table. Santa Cruz has only started five league games and, in one, contrived to injure himself in innocuous fashion in the opening minutes. Compared to his paltry return of three goals, Emmanuel Adebayor and, in particular, Carlos Tevez are delivering value for money.

3. Jason Scotland (Wigan, £2 million)

Sometimes scouting systems fail. On other occasions, perhaps would-be buyers know their targets too well, the memories of their triumphs serving to obscure their flaws. Jason Scotland spent two years scoring goals at Swansea for Roberto Martinez and, when the Spaniard moved to Wigan, the striker followed suit. A regular scorer in League One and the Championship, the Trinidad & Tobago forward may rank as the Premier League's least prolific forward: 30 games have brought a solitary strike. And even that came in a defeat.

2. Kolo Toure & Joleon Lescott (Manchester City, £14 million & £22 million)

With money no object, Mark Hughes went shopping for defenders. And while John Terry eventually opted to stay at Chelsea, the former Manchester City manager had the opportunity to assemble an enviable back four. He produced a ridiculed one. Kolo Toure fared rather worse than his cheaper replacement at Arsenal, Thomas Vermaelen, while Joleon Lescott appeared, especially in the first half of the season, unnerved by the price tag and a rather lesser player than the man who excelled for Everton. And as Roberto Mancini has discovered, City's most reliable centre back is one who was already at the club: Vincent Kompany.

1. Alberto Aquilani (Liverpool, £20 million)

Yes, he has been unfortunate with injuries and, yes, as Rafa Benitez was fond of saying, Aquilani was signed for the five-year duration of his contract rather than a few months, but it has been a dismal start to life at Liverpool. His debut was delayed, his impact has been negligible and even his manager appears unconvinced. As Anfield appearances against Fulham and Portsmouth have shown, Aquilani has ability in abundance, but the solidity of Lucas Leiva tends to earn the Brazilian a place for the more demanding games. Replacing Xabi Alonso was never going to be easy, but Aquilani's troubled time at Anfield makes it far harder than envisaged. He may be unlucky, but the size of his fee and the size of the task made it imperative the Italian flourished. It is an understatement to say he has not.


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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 14, 2010, 03:42:02 PM »
For months, she let you take her on dates, accepted your fresh flowers, even allowed you a make-out session in the back seat of the car under the crisp Emirate sky.... when twas time to give you the trophy, yuh get slap in your face, "MAYBE next year, i'm still too young man!." By the time she's ready to give you the sweetness, your johnny will be weak; and your sons might have to slaughter the lamb.... Different year.... Same Arsenal... See yuh next year Gunnerstunner!

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ah trinidadian gyul should seduce messi and produce ah chile... :beermug:

wouldn't that only make the chile a half-good footballer?  :beermug:

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"Let's be clear, Walcott was not the determining factor, the determining factor was [Manuel] Almunia, who saved 12,000 balls."   Pep Guiardiola, Barcelona FC Coach

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER!
« on: February 24, 2010, 10:41:46 AM »
Massive, Massive game today @ the San Siro!  I say 1-1

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: January 31, 2010, 12:34:11 PM »
where all the men who does come in here and talk about Arsenal and their "magical" football?   I wish people would stop romanticising this SOFT Arsenal team.  Talk is cheap Wenger.  Allyuh aint ready, and haven't been ready for quite some years now!  Bring that tata spin bowling to the Bridge lewwe hit it for SIX!!!

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Football / Re: GMF remember some penalty kick specialists
« on: January 19, 2010, 04:54:39 PM »
Lothar Mattheus was the real boss.... up in the jeppers' with mad pace... every... single.. time...

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Football / Re: Redknapp back for Kenwyne Jones
« on: January 06, 2010, 09:53:58 PM »
When Drogba came in that league, he couldn't trap a ball to save his, or his gran-mumma's life.  His overall touches IMHO, were autrociously worse than Kenwyne's.  Look at that man now!  Best of luck to you young warrior.  Keep working on your flaws and make us even more proud.  Like men here feel is a Play-We ticket that get yuh to where yuh at right now.  All kinda big-time coach willing to spend millions a dollars on your talent, but imps like we can't appreciate it.  First touch is obviously something that can be worked on.  Work hard son.... Show them warrior!!!

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: December 15, 2009, 06:56:07 PM »
my word...for a supposedly losing side such as arsenal that "cyah win anything" and is a "sh-t side" it is surprising to me that all these chelsea fans ALWAYS have something to say.  you would think that the chelsea thread woulda have like 100, 000 posts on it.  i mean chelsea have the world's greatest players and going to win EVERY trophy this season.   hear nah chelsea fans, stop souring we lil thread with alyuh rhetoric nah...or is it that alyuh just biding time to jump on the arsenal band wagon when the wheels fall off the chelsea bus.

oh and about the song comment...most of the articles i have read on various sporting websites have been full of praise for his performances.  anyone who has watched the gunners over the last year or so can see the strides song has made in terms of composure, playing the right pass, breaking up play etc. (the loan spell at charlton did him a world of good)  nobody ever say he was john obi mikel, and frankly no one cares if he is mikel, song is an arsenal player, he does his work and is quite good at it.

what happen this thread is ah cult or wha? what is with the "our thread" talk?

if you only want to hear certain kinda opinions then go and post on the official arsenal board. is the same deal for the chelsea, man u and liverpool threads, rival fans must chook some fire and the resident fans will bias the scene..

brother i am a fan of football first, i have my side but that don't stop me from watching other teams and formulating an opinion on players.

As for Song.. I've looked at him play a number of times and while i agree he has improved over the last few seasons, imo he is not the requisite quality for a club that supposed to be EPL and champs league title contenders.

He looks very good against weaker opposition, but he gets glaringly exposed in the bigger games.. His touch and speed of thought not up there with the best.. he does get advantage in midfield and leave holes in the middle (see chelsea 4 arsenal 1 last season), he is prone to lapses and losses in possession/concentration (see Man City 4 Arsenal 2).. He doh put in no crunching tackles and he is not an imposing force.. To put it another way, how much do you think he would command in the transfer market?

Basically he is a good player, fair to fine with a chance of showers.

It would be interesting to see how the young Song would look with the likes of Essien, playing next to him

yup... because Mikel was born with Essien strapped to he back... allyuh bruddas good oui....

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER!
« on: December 02, 2009, 06:43:22 PM »
skant consolation to my week but good fuh yuh chelsea

At least Small Mag team win, he has braggin rights.

Yall, on the other hand, gettin shutout and blowout at every opportunity  :devil:

das alright allyuh had no right to go out against blackburn yuh over priced shithounds, full strength too!


full strenght?  try 8 changes to the squad that wallop allyuh! might only seem full strenght to you, who accostomed to a paper thin squad!  like allyuh arsenal men have no blasted shame or wha? 

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: November 21, 2009, 10:58:27 AM »
let the excuses begin.... Sunderland 1- Arsenal 0.............. We waiting for this shitside next week....

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: November 15, 2009, 10:42:52 AM »
all ball... all day.....

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Football / Re: Chelsea vs Man Utd (08-Nov-09)
« on: November 12, 2009, 05:52:47 PM »
I don't think that Drogba got the card for play-acting, but rather for his challenge on Evans.  If you look at the replay; as soon as the foul was committed, the Ref pointed in favor of Man United.  Drogba saw that Evans had left the ground and kept moving forward into Evans as he was airborne.  Evans initially put his foot up to protect himself (as goal-keepers typically do with their knees), but added a little umph to it with a mild kick-out.  In my opinion, they should have both gotten a yellow card.  Drogba, for the attempted "under-cut" and Evans for lashing out. 

But more importantly, we got the 3 points, so no hard feelings  ;)

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Football / Should Rafa be fired?
« on: October 31, 2009, 11:38:13 AM »
5 league losses in 6 games at a big club like Liverpool?  Is it time for Rafa to go?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 15, 2009, 07:30:15 AM »
Ian Wright (ex Arsenal player) on Adebayor..... calls many arsenal fans "corporate" and "fickle"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2637205/Fans-can-dish-it-out-but-not-take-it.html

EMMANUEL ADEBAYOR made a big mistake running 90 yards to celebrate in front of the Arsenal fans.

Deep down, though, I'm not sure whether the former Gunners striker will ever really regret it.


Adebayor could have caused a major riot at Eastlands on Saturday and I'm sure he'll end up getting a ban for his actions, particularly when you also consider what he also did to his old team-mate Robin van Persie.


The crowd problems between West Ham and Millwall are fresh in the memory and the football authorities will be keen to act on what will be seen as provocation from a player.


However crazy his actions were, Adebayor - after getting bucketloads of stick for his £25million move - was only doing something which many other players would love to have done.


It's just Adebayor had the bottle to go for it.


After I left Crystal Palace for Arsenal, I got a fair amount of stick.


Some fans wrote stuff on the wall of my mum's house accusing me of being a Judas.


It wasn't nice that my family was getting dragged into things.


The first time I scored against Palace, I did not run over to their fans - even though I thought about it.


Putting the ball in the net gave me the real satisfaction.


I must admit, I did celebrate in front of other away fans and after the game, I would usually get a dressing room visit from a policeman.


It's just that some fans want everything. They love to scream abuse at players and say things about the players' wives and kids - but if they get something back, they don't like it. And they cannot handle it.


Togo international Adebayor has clearly been storing a lot anger inside and he wanted to give an instant answer to all of the Arsenal fans.


He was criticised when it looked as though he was going to move last summer.


When Emmanuel Eboue was jeered at the Emirates last season, Adebayor was clearly annoyed and was not afraid to back his team-mate. He was right, as no fans should ever turn on one of their own.


I think many supporters these days - particularly at Arsenal - are a bit corporate.


This means they are less tolerant towards players and are far quicker to dish the dirt and this is not acceptable, either. Had Adebayor, 25, not slid on his knees in front of the fans, he would not have got any less stick.


 
Equally, though, he has now given them more ammunition and you can guarantee that throughout the rest of his career, whenever he faces his old club, the abuse will be endless.


The return match in north London in late April will now certainly be interesting.


Aside from the Adebayor situation, the bottom line for Arsene Wenger's Arsenal side is they lost against a team who will be challenging them for that lucrative Champions league place.


They played well at Manchester United and also lost.


Some Arsenal fans are fickle and they often have a go at me just because I say the team will not win every single trophy on offer.


The facts are that they are in for a tough season and whatever fans might think of him, the loss of a 20-goal striker like Adebayor is a huge blow.


But I think it's fair to say he probably won't ever be returning to play for the club.


Wenger's two defeats are nothing compared to Roy Keane's problems at Ipswich.


He was a great player and I would love him to dispel the theory that great players cannot become good managers.


After walking out on Sunderland, I'm wondering how long before he does exactly the same at Ipswich


Second from bottom in the Championship without a win all season, things are looking exceptionally tough for Keane in Suffolk.


I just hope Keane - and Ipswich's board - have patience.


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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 14, 2009, 06:44:03 PM »
horse... sorry, but Liverpool have much more history than Arsenal and haven't won the League in years!  When last you see Pool fans BOOING their players? steupsss.  Arsenal fans, as i said before, have a FLASE sense of entitlement.  Get over yourselves!

Couldn't have said it better myself. I not one for generalizing about fans because each club has the same people supporting them, just in different colours, but...Arsenal fans treatment of Eboue last year was absolutely disgraceful.

The Adebayor situation is real funny. In saying that he was responsible for inciting trouble we basically that he should EXPECT the fans to behave like assholes he should account for THEIR immature, dotish behaviour. At no point does anybody point fingers at teh jackasses who pelt chairs, food, drink and rush to the front of the stand.

So Adebayor score a goal and rub it in your face after yuh giving him grief for the entire game, what kind of loutish asshole you have to be to want to fight for that?

Man does real see them team through Rose coloured glasses we.

What about the booing Lucas get last year from the KOP?
What about the booing Agbonlahor get from the Villa fans?
Chelsea players were all booed on the first day of training camp this year.

The boo boys at all clubs and country (Cole for England got booed) exist. Disgusting yes but it goes on at all clubs all the time.

wow. man just make up stray facts oui. chelsea players get boo on the firstday of TRAININGcamp? come better than that fella!

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Football / Re: BANDWAGONISTA EXPERIMENT
« on: September 14, 2009, 04:36:55 PM »
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/198684/

But look at it from Adebayor's point of view for a minute.

There is no proof that he wasn't trying last season. He might not have repeated his 30-goal haul from the 2007/08 season, but where some supporters might get behind a struggling striker, Arsenal fans merely got on his back.

As we have seen with Emmanuel Eboue, Gooners are not slow to turn on players that are not doing the business.

And rather than offering Adebayor the kind of backing Andriy Shevchenko got at Chelsea, the fans simply wanted rid of him.

Of course Adebayor's public courting of AC Milan and Barcelona did not help, but let's face it: every player wants more money and a move to Barcelona, Adebayor was just more open about it that most.

Having endured poisonous and vitriolic abuse for 79 minutes, surely he could be forgiven for getting a bit worked up after scoring?

He is being blamed for inciting a near-riot as though his admittedly silly antics gave the away fans carte blanche to start knocking stewards over.

Just because Adebayor lost his self-control, it doesn't excuse the Arsenal fans that did the same thing.

As for the stamp - well, that's a little harder to defend. But the speed with which Van Persie issued his extraordinary statement on Arsenal's website suggests the pair were hardly best friends.

Van Persie executed a fairly comprehensive character assassination, dusting his rant with the following phrases: "Mindless and malicious", "he set out to hurt me", "disrespectful", "real lack of class" and "bad for football".

That Arsenal allowed him to put the statement on the club's official mouthpiece was arguably as irresponsible and provocative as the incident itself.

Arsenal are fast becoming the Premier League's elite drama queens. Lately, it seems they cannot complete 90 minutes of football without getting involved in some kind of brouhaha.

Their last three matches have stirred up, in order, Fletcher-gate, Eduardo-gate and now Adebayor-gate.

ED looks forward to seeing what sort of controversy they can get embroiled in when they visit Standard Liege this Wednesday.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 14, 2009, 04:30:53 PM »
haha... arsenal players and fans alike is the best oui.... of course, deflect the attention from the CUT-ASS allyuh colleck! just like the Man U game a couple weeks ago! back then was Fletcher right? Allyuh could never lose gracefully! Is always somebody else fault!!!! same shit, different year.  Arsenal is shit for 5 years running and will be shit as long as Wenger and his Policies remain. take allyuh licks and crawl in a corner please! That lil boysquad aint ready yet! Do yuh forkin ting Addy, only you felt what them fikkle Arsenal fans put yuh through.  Express yuhself horsey. Hopefully Eboue dothe same once he leave too! Which odder team does be booing they own players like that?

Amen....Setta wagonist and Hollywood supporters with no real ties to that team.  That shit woudda never happen at Chelsea, Man U or 'Pool.  I ain't hera Chelsea supporters booing Terry, and he take kinda long to quash rumors of a move to Man City.

Horse, Drogba wuz worse than Terry! Was like 3 years straight he was batting eyes with all kinda teams! a whole season and a half too-tooing down heself.  Yuh ever hear Drogba get Boo from chelsea Fans?  Steups.  Arsenal fans have a real false sense of entitlement!  Get over yourselves!


errrr...arsenal fans are used to winning trophies (at least since 2005) so i think they have a right to be a bit disgruntled (its not like we are burnley or stoke for gods sake come on)...and please dont compare adebayor to drogba...drogba was a household name before chelsea whereas adebayor was relatively unknown...i am not saying arsenal made him but we certainly helped raise his profile.   i personally wish him well at man city, they look like they will be a force to be reckoned with this season...and for the record no one is blaming him for the loss today, tactics and poor defensive performance cost us today end of story.

horse... sorry, but Liverpool have much more history than Arsenal and haven't won the League in years!  When last you see Pool fans BOOING their players? steupsss.  Arsenal fans, as i said before, have a FALSE sense of entitlement.  Get over yourselves!
when last did liverpool won the league or did a double?

you are just helping my point.  because of their rich history, liverpool fans should be more angry than arsenal fans, because they haven't won the domestic league in quite some time.  yet you absolutely do not see pool fans vehemently booing their players on bad spells. 

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Football / Re: BANDWAGONISTA EXPERIMENT
« on: September 14, 2009, 12:07:06 PM »
All in one season; Bendtner, Eboue and Adebayor got Booed in their OWN stadium BY THEIR OWN "FANS"!  Eboue was crying coming off the field when the boos was raining on him and he collect the Cobo sweat! That to me, is much more disgraceful and hurtful than what Addy do...At least anyone wearing a Man city jersey will show more respect and loyalty to their OWN players! steuupssss....who more fikkle than an Arsenal fan? Allyuh know how to stand by anything? Even Wenger, at the end of the year get berated! steupssss.....Do yuh forkin ting Addy boy! Ah find yuh cudda kiss the City Crest too during that 15 foot slide on yuh knees... maybe at the Emirates?  ;)

p.s. GunnerStunner; am i "inciting" you?

More disgraceful than stamping Fabregas on his ankle, and V. Persie in his face? More hurtful and antagonistic than purposely running the entire length of the field just to rub it in Arsenal fans' faces? As well as Adebayor played, he showed a complete lack of class in that game...and i eh no Arsenal fan

don't care whether ur a fan or not.  i guess you didnt see adebayor jump skipping tackles that were meant to hurt him all game.  did u see the tackle van persie pelt before he colleck his face tattoo?  or the two absolutely wild tackles bendtner pelt, when addy abuse they whole left side and tap it to shawn wright? were u there to hear the nasty shit arsenal fans were hurling addy's way all game? my point is, that u can't really blame the man for an emotional outburst, given the circumstances..  but as the retarded saying goes, he is the "professional", because he makes more money than them.  Can't wait to live in a time of "professional" fans........

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 14, 2009, 10:31:47 AM »
haha... arsenal players and fans alike is the best oui.... of course, deflect the attention from the CUT-ASS allyuh colleck! just like the Man U game a couple weeks ago! back then was Fletcher right? Allyuh could never lose gracefully! Is always somebody else fault!!!! same shit, different year.  Arsenal is shit for 5 years running and will be shit as long as Wenger and his Policies remain. take allyuh licks and crawl in a corner please! That lil boysquad aint ready yet! Do yuh forkin ting Addy, only you felt what them fikkle Arsenal fans put yuh through.  Express yuhself horsey. Hopefully Eboue dothe same once he leave too! Which odder team does be booing they own players like that?

Amen....Setta wagonist and Hollywood supporters with no real ties to that team.  That shit woudda never happen at Chelsea, Man U or 'Pool.  I ain't hera Chelsea supporters booing Terry, and he take kinda long to quash rumors of a move to Man City.

Horse, Drogba wuz worse than Terry! Was like 3 years straight he was batting eyes with all kinda teams! a whole season and a half too-tooing down heself.  Yuh ever hear Drogba get Boo from chelsea Fans?  Steups.  Arsenal fans have a real false sense of entitlement!  Get over yourselves!


errrr...arsenal fans are used to winning trophies (at least since 2005) so i think they have a right to be a bit disgruntled (its not like we are burnley or stoke for gods sake come on)...and please dont compare adebayor to drogba...drogba was a household name before chelsea whereas adebayor was relatively unknown...i am not saying arsenal made him but we certainly helped raise his profile.   i personally wish him well at man city, they look like they will be a force to be reckoned with this season...and for the record no one is blaming him for the loss today, tactics and poor defensive performance cost us today end of story.

horse... sorry, but Liverpool have much more history than Arsenal and haven't won the League in years!  When last you see Pool fans BOOING their players? steupsss.  Arsenal fans, as i said before, have a FALSE sense of entitlement.  Get over yourselves!

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