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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: March 08, 2011, 06:35:38 AM »
For those who like stats:

With Johan Djourou in their defence, Arsenal have conceded a PL goal every 319 minutes this season. Without him, that figure is 54 minutes.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8750_6800826,00.html

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« on: March 07, 2011, 03:05:34 PM »
what about Andy Reid looking like a little fat boy

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: March 06, 2011, 10:45:17 AM »
No it wasn't but it was one of those that you can't really blame the linemans as it was so close, could of easily went the other way.  Without the replay I would suspect the fans in line would of been split 50/50 whether it was or not.  Unlike the Cup Final the previous week when the Wigan player was at least 2 yards on side with the official in line, those are the ones I have a problem with as its just down to the official being poor.  During the season you probably get a couple for you and a couple against you when its that close, the rule itself is more stupid and causes more hassle than those decisions imho.

I hear you. But you're always going to be upset when the call goes against your team. How close it was doesn't make a difference. Especially under circumstances like yesterday.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: March 04, 2011, 10:07:44 AM »
And in English football, there is nobody whose presence in the lineup leads to more W’s.   With Fabregas playing, Arsenal are 15-3-3 in league games, averaging 2.28 points from each game. Without him, however, they are only 2-2-2, earning only 1.33 points on average.

In games that van Persie started this season, Arsenal's record is 8W-2D-1L.

Here's a stat from since he's joined the club:

He has missed 42.75 per cent of the club's league games, playing only 109 of a possible 255 matches, since signing from Feyenoord in 2004. And without him the stats do not make good reading: Arsenal's win ratio minus the striker in the Premier League is 56%, compared to 78% with him in the side.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/03/03/2375619/from-broken-metatarsals-to-knee-ligament-tears-robin-van-persies-?sms_ss=gmail&at_xt=4d710ce2e0b216ef%2C0

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Another thing I find funny...is the same men who does come on here and knock Arsenal for their pretty brand of passing and keeping possession, even against teams like ManU and Chelsea and still end up losing...now it happened to Barcelona and they tune change and saying all kinda thing like Arsenal was too defensive...

ent  :beermug: had the same thought after the game. expect it.

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I think Barcelona are still clear enough favorites to advance.

Don't agree.  I think it's almost dead even -might even give Arsenal the edge because they drew first blood.  If Arsenal can score at Camp Nou, (which they even did last year), they are fully in the driver's seat 

yesterday's first half is the reason i say Barcelona are still favorites. if messi had scored, or if that goal wasn't disallowed, the game would have been over. that's not to say that arsenal didn't have chances, but they were a bit lucky to still be in the game at half time.

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The difference between the games this year and last year is that Arsenal was often able to get out of Barcelona's pressing trap. Whether it's because Barcelona isn't doing it as well this year, or it's because Arsenal's midfield is better technically than it was last year, I don't know.

I think Barcelona are still clear enough favorites to advance. But it could be harder than last year. Remember that Arsenal went to Barcelona without Fabregas, Song and van Persie last season; and also played with Silvestre in central defence, and played with Denilson (who is not capable of playing under the pressurizing defence of Barcelona) as one of the holding midfielders. Also consider the emergence of Djourou, Wilshere and Szczesny plus the good form of Nasri as positive improvements for Arsenal.

I don't watch enough of Barcelona to assess their differences between last year and now, but I think if Arsenal doesn't concede early that it will be a much closer game.

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I am in no way saying that arsenal sat back and outright defended whole game, but they made sure they always had numbers in the back to prepare for Barca.     

But when you use the expression "park the bus" it comes across like you are.

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Football / Re: Gattuso's antics
« on: February 16, 2011, 11:12:39 AM »
Allyuh doh know what the assistant on the sideline said/did to provoke Gattuso's anger.  

Two sides to every story.  

Zidane head butt a man in he chest normal normal in a world cup final and real man jump to his defense and say Matterazzi deserve it...

Chances are Gattuso was just being an idiot, but if the assitant was throwin' talk, he hadda take he choke and cool it...In the heat of the action, all that in it...I eh know about the headbutt after the game but in the heat of the moment doh hide behind a bench and provoke a man who blood done hot...or else yuh lookin' fuh ting, and yuh just as guilty.

Gattuso's behavior in general throughout the game was very questionable though I have to say.  

Flamini's tackle was inexcusable....

Kicker that is rel mad talk you talking they. Ah man giving you talks so you choke him, you were sarcastic right.

don't think anyone was defending gattuso's actions. think kicker was just making the point that people judge gattuso's actions differently than they would judge someone like zidane's because of reputation - which in a perfect world 'shouldn't' be the case.

an equivalent would be rodman in the nba. if rodman retaliate he would probably be villified more than the average player.

i think knowing gattuso, i wouldn't provioke the man. if i know he's a hot head hot and still provoke him, then i "look for" the consequence. i think that's what kicker means. i don't think he means that gattuos's actions are necessarily justified.

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Football / Re: 21 Questions with Steve Sealy Jr.
« on: February 16, 2011, 09:59:09 AM »
12. What is your greatest joy?
Being able to play football again at a competitive level.

Stevie back playing now? Who is he playing for? Read those words and immediately I felt real happy for the man.

Stevie, Tiger Fitzpatrick & Brent Sancho have a fete team called VF International. Players include Darren Lewis, Mike McComie, Leonson Lewis plus many others. Think they're unbeaten in about 25 games! Play by National Stadium on sundays. Won the Tobago beach football championship. Usually lime at Frankies on Ariapita sunday eves. Have a section at sundays Pan Semi Finals. Also now have a Ladies team.
Very well organised and great to lime with!!

Ok, played against those guys last time I was in Trinidad. I was wondering if he was playing pro league now or something when he said "at a competitive level".

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Football / Re: Gattuso's antics
« on: February 15, 2011, 06:17:47 PM »
First off man was defending Zidane and beating up Matterazzi because of the respective reputations involved.  Matterazzi was ah ass from long time while Zidane was nothing but class.  People correctly presumed that Matterazzi was at fault for provoking the incident.

I don't know about that one. That wasn't even the first time Zidane butt a man in a game. And if I remember correctly in 1998 WC he stamped on a player.

He might have been a class footballer in terms of skill, but he had his share of 'bad boy' moments. 

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Football / Re: 21 Questions with Steve Sealy Jr.
« on: February 15, 2011, 02:19:28 PM »
12. What is your greatest joy?
Being able to play football again at a competitive level.

Stevie back playing now? Who is he playing for? Read those words and immediately I felt real happy for the man.


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I think Arsenal is stronger than last season, and Barca is weaker than last season- so it will be closer than last year

Can't comment on how strong Barca is but Arsenal is definitely stronger. The team that lost 4-1 didn't have van Persie, Fabregas, Arshavin & Song - and included players like Denilson, Bendtner, and Silvestre.

Going to Barca is hard enough. Going with Silvestre in the central defence and Denilson as your holding mid ..... you get the point

 

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 08, 2011, 11:29:43 AM »
good news on the Djourou injury front. according to the Swiss FA Djourou should be back in training within a week! http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/50208/Swiss_FA_Djourou_back_training_in_a_week_.aspx

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 07, 2011, 11:11:40 PM »
Random stats:

Arsenal concedes a goal every 251 minutes of PL football with Johan Djourou in the side this season. Without him, it's every 54 minutes.

Top scorer Dimitar Berbatov has drawn a blank in 17 of his last 22 games for Manchester United.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 07, 2011, 10:36:22 AM »
The reality is simple until Vermalean or Djourou returns "Schillaci" has to step the f**k up!
This injury should not be viewed as a downfall but rather an opportunity for this man to show he has an inkling of defensive ability.

Arshavin looks to be returning to some degree of form lets hope it's not a flash in the pan kind of thing.

Diaby I understand his reaction but after being injured out for so long and Wenger still persisting with him he CANNOT hurt the team like that again ... grow some nuts and control yourself ... he owes it to the team .. imagine if he reacts like this in the game vs Barca or the Carling cup final!

Koscielsky needs to cut out those mistakes because Djourou ain't there to clean them up anymore and this partnership with Schillaci can either make or break the season they need to sort it out and get it right!

Things look rough now but we're 4 points off the lead and Song should be back by next week and Vermalean and Nasri will be back in about a month and we're still to hear about how long Djourou out for ... tough times but not impossible times!

The fear is that Djourou has ligament damage and might be out for some time, if not the rest of the season. But that is speculative for now. Regarding the Squillaci situation, I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger goes with Song in central defence and Diaby is played alongside Wilshere in midfield.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 06, 2011, 10:10:37 PM »
Concerned about Song and Djourou injury status. Don't want to have to rely on the Koscielny and Squillaci partnership for too long. Let's hope Wenger's decision not to get a center back in the transfer window doesn't backfire.

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Football / Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« on: February 04, 2011, 12:53:36 PM »
People are always quick to criticize our players technical ability but having played in college and seeing some of the best US players....our players are even more technical and gifted than some of the players on the US youth pool. Our problem has always been staying consistent ...

i don't understand what you mean by this. what are you considering technique? imo if your technical ability is not consistent then it isn't mastered. in other words, the man who's technique is more consistent therefore has better technical ability.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 04, 2011, 08:08:06 AM »
or how bout a keeper passes a ball out to his last defender and the ball is intercepted by another player who was standing in an offside position.

Remember what happened with Nani vs Tottenham earlier this year where Gomez placed the ball on the ground and nani ran on to it and scored.

the nani situation was different tho. there was no question of offside there. everyone stopped because nani handled the ball. then gomes put the ball down to take a free kick that the referee never actually blew for and nani kicked it in. when the gk has the ball in the possession, a striker doesnt need to be in an offside position. offside only matters in situations involving a pass from a teammate.

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Football / Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« on: February 03, 2011, 10:44:04 AM »
Did we play total football under Beenhakker? No
Is it our goal to adopt this style for the future? Probably

Not sure anyone can really provide the answer to your question though - to me, you've oversimplified football styles into a set of groupings that aren't necessarily accurate or mutually exclusive, while implying/or assuming that trinis have some sort of collective mentality that limits what we're "made for".

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Football / Re: atdhe shut dong?!!
« on: February 03, 2011, 08:34:03 AM »
for those who might not know
legal streams - espn3.com and foxsoccer.tv

(edit - just realized foxsoccer.tv is not free)

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: January 30, 2011, 08:28:53 PM »
i agree with small magician, the penalty was weak. but if you going to call the foul, then it should be a red card just based on the rules of denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. but you're right- it was weak and fabregas was all up in the ref face calling for the red (which i couldn't care less about, but commentators always frown upon players doing that).

I am convinced that Denilson is Wenger outside child.

 :rotfl:- I think young Brazilians are better off continuing their football education in Brazil and move overseas 21 and up. I think they go to Europe at a young age and their football instincts get jammed due to attempts to change how they play.

when denilson first broke into arsenal's team he showed so much more promise than he's showing now. the only reason he didn't make more of an impact that first season is because he got injured and flamini came in and had an amazing season. that said, i don't know what happened to him. i almost feel like he got physically weaker. i not sure if i remembering right, but did he have shoulder injuries? maybe he didn't recover psychologically from that, cause he was an aggressive, tough tackling player when he first came onto the seen, but now he is the easiest player to push off the ball and his tackling is usually a half-hearted "lean one way and stick out a foot in the opposite direction" kinda chook.

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Football / Re: On the topic of "natural" talent
« on: January 28, 2011, 04:05:45 PM »
A quote from a guy about Southampton's youth development:

"We screened them not for football ability – that is not necessarily the key at that age – but for intelligence and athleticism. You can teach them the rest. If they're not clever and not athletic, you'll find it hard to push water uphill. We spent money on the facilities – an indoor sports hall, a wonderful gym, banks of computers for the lads to use and for us to assess them on – and bought a local hotel, Darwin Lodge, for £250,000, where the boys lodged. We installed Julia Upson to run it, and she was like a mother to them. We made sure their diets and education were right, that their entire lives were stable. By the time I left, Southampton had the whole sweep necessary to produce not only players of quality but players who are also decent people."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jan/28/southampton-alex-oxlade-chamberlain

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Football / Re: Should a team really be fined for making too many changes?
« on: January 28, 2011, 11:46:20 AM »
Its a rule of competition entry that each team field its strongest available team. However, much of that is down to opinion. Chelsea could say Drogba had a hint of a cold, Terry had a personal problem, Cole felt a twinge in his calf etc. Its only when it gets obvious that there's a problem. Man city could make 10 changes legitamately because they may have 10 internationals step in. Blackpool don't have that luxury. This is precisely why the money clubs have big squads!

Think its a bit too subjective. Blackpool can say this is the strongest team available because the other players are tired. And does having 10 internationals step in imply "strongest available"? Bendtner might be an international, but he certainly isn't going Arsenal's strongest available striker in most people's opinion.

I see the money and tv rights issue, but I think it shouldn't stand as a rule.

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Football / Re: Should a team really be fined for making too many changes?
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:24:36 PM »
Its all about money...as usual. When F.A. etc sell competitions and T.V. rights, the buyers want guarantees that, for instance, Man U are gonna put out their strongest team so people will watch the game on TV and sponsors want to get to see all the big names and meet a few after the game.

Imagine paying all that cash to sponsor a game or televise it and a team of youngsters turn out.

But its not fair on teams with smaller squads like Blackpool & Wolves. Man U could rest the 11 players who played on saturday in EPL and still field a team of stars on a tuesday in the Carling Cup!!

a team like man city could field a second 11 and everyone on the field would be a big name. would they get fined for making 10 changes if the men who coming in are players like given, boateng, richards, balotelli and vieira etc? this is why I am interested in knowing how the rule is stated. it seems kind of ridiculous that a team could get fined for resting players. its not like they conspire with the opposition to give them 3 points. and it's not like the teams have much to gain from losing an extra game with a weakened squad. it really is unfair to the smaller clubs if the rule depends on the quality of your team/profile of your players.

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Football / Should a team really be fined for making too many changes?
« on: January 27, 2011, 05:40:35 PM »
Regarding the Blackpool situation, should a team that decides to rest players for a future fixture, be penalized for doing so? What's the difference between this and when clubs put out weakened sides in the Carling Cup, or when a club who has already qualified from the their Champions League group travels without its key players?

What is the exact rule? Should this even be a rule at all?

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Football / Re: On the topic of "natural" talent
« on: January 26, 2011, 02:50:24 PM »
Dwn the book going good but let me give you a real life example.

I am coaching children 3-5 yrs old football.

Many of them cant even walk some start at 2.5 yrs old still in pampers. Most of the exercises they do for the first time and they are just discovering their bodies and motor skills...standing on one foot, jumpin, walking to the side balance etc.

I would agree that at the end of the season all of them are proficient enough to do the exercises...granted I do not know what they do during the week and if any of them practice, but you do see improvements in each session.

But amongst the group a disparity exists between who doing it smoother, faster, easier, more comfortable etc.

Now over the three or so yrs that I have been doing this every season ....there will be one child, who will just make you say WOW...so advanced over all his/her peers and doing things for the first time with ease and comfort that big children cant do.

There is a little expat child close to three...the youth in pampers and could strike a ball clean, harder than most, both feet, volley, moving ball, trapping, the timing everything spot on and the parents say....he just so from birth. He could play cricket, tennis, golf everything, catch a ball, ...he just has an ability.

My point is, he is too young to be able to put any sort of time or dedication into his new activities. The toddler just is able to do these actions....I think while what I have read has merit, "Specialness" or "Talent" is a real thing and you are able to see it easily.

The Pele's, maradonnas, Zidanes and Messi's no doubt trained hard to reach where they reach but from small they had a level that training cyar make yuh reach no matter how good a student you are.

The point is not so much that specialness and talent aren't real. The point is more that you can't really define what it is and it won't differentiate who makes it to the top from those who won't - hence the overrated tag. What you saying not really contradicting anything in the book, except for that last part. As you keep reading, let me know what you think.

But regarding your example, because that youth is showing more ability now, he is more likely to be the one that is sent to the better coaching school and given more attention and guidance, and that will snowball into him being a much better footballer than the other other youths. He will also get more positive reinforcement that makes him enjoy playing football more, and hence continue playing it for longer.

However lets say one of those youths who cant kick a ball for nothing turn out to be real persistent and get better coaching and guidance throughout his childhood and have a better work ethic than the expat youth, by the time they are 18 he will be more likely to be a better footballer - despite the difference in ability they showed at age 3-5. (obviously is not that simple but that's the idea)

also, if you read a lot of biographies of world class athletes there always seems to be stories of some other player who was better or at the level when they were young and is now working in an office somewhere.

agree, and to further the above points, i old enuff to have seen kids similarly at an early age, demostrate such early skill levels, and grown into total non-athletes, due to loss of interest, mental rejection or some other issues... however, the talent was there...What may seem as inexplainable, could also be due to generation transference..thus they might seemed to have been born with it, but in fact it could be genetic, sometimes even skipping a generation, wherby you would hear reference "he runs..etc..just like his grand-dad", amny studies do not account for that, as factual research is rarely acquired across generations, only visual and memmory if lucky...thus yes, they could have been born with it

and there are the late bloomers who demonstrated no 'skill' until a particular time in their maturity, and just seem to appear suddenly....but studies have shown, it could also have been the same with their previous generations as well

add: Darwin et al

Good example would be Julius James. If you saw Julius play football when he was 13 you would be surprised. The man was a BEGINNER. That said, he had a lot of belief in his ability to get better.

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Football / Re: On the topic of "natural" talent
« on: January 26, 2011, 02:01:39 PM »
Also Malcolm gladwell did an excellent synopsis of this work in 'Outliers', where he used theories of deliberate practice to critique anecdotal arguments that success is solely the result of talent. He also relates that the quality of the experience is essential to success.

The quality of the experience is what we are lacking. Other nations are ahead of us by dint of the efforts placed on coaching and suppling an environment to both encourage and incubate talent at an early age. When foreign coaches visit they always say we have talent, but they never commend us on our coaching programs.

Having been a national university and a national military champion in my particular sport here in Canada, and having seen  competitors with as much or more talent than me in Trinidad not achieving to their potential, and also having been a coach that has led several teams to gold and silver medals in provincial and national  competition its clear to me that the general coaching and competition climate in some T&T sports is very poor.  

Right. The book touches on stuff like this. Its hard to really get into the fact specifics in a short post. But I think everything you said (esp the part about other countries being ahead because they've invested in early development), supports the argument that 'talent is overrated' and that proper systems for development are more important.

Also talent has many definitions, so when we say a footballers has talent, that definition has more to do with the player's ability (including that which they've acquired through training). Whereas the idea of "talent" that these theories are challenging refers more to something that's innate or acquired through something inexplicable. 

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Football / Re: On the topic of "natural" talent
« on: January 26, 2011, 01:48:07 PM »
So why could some people pick up a skill quickly with little or no training, while another person with all kinda training and hrs put in and achieve the same result.

I think the idea is that they developed something that allows them to pick it up faster, but whatever it is they developed didn't come to them naturally.

Like if two adults decide they going and try to pick up tennis, both of them might have never played before, but maybe one was a more active child and developed better coordination at an early age through physical activities. It could be something innocuous that has nothing to do with tennis (like chasing butterflies and playing catch  ;D). But the point is that person would be the one who would pick it up easier, because of some sort of developmental difference, rather than through some sort of innate talent. Also, because your physical attributes develop differently when you're a child, the person who doesn't pick it up as easy will have a much harder time developing that coordination later in life.

I think a lot of it comes down to what you see as natural and how you define talent. But the main point is that its developed through some sort of traceable means (rather than something you're born with) even if you are not aware of what caused it.

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