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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Online Exclusive Interview with Silvio Spann.

« on: May 16, 2005, 12:47:07 PM »

I will endorse Spann for our midfield not based on his interview or his divine grace. Not even on why he believe he was left out or not. Or if he feel he is it or not. It would be based solely on his last performance. I have seen him play in the past, and based on his very recent performance his game has improved, and most likely still improving.
Doh I appreciate the interview (thanks guys and Mr. Spann),. It does not mention the fact of his improvement, as a team player. This to me is the most obvious omission, given why he may or may not have been selected for past campaigns. He is growing, and as he states, every person calling is timely, some later than others.
That being said, I hope the Almighty see it fit to let Yokohama, Been and him, to answer what I think should be his next call.

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Football / Re: Beenhakker has good mix for upcoming training camp.

« on: May 16, 2005, 10:08:46 AM »

Ponnoxx, let me understand yuh good...
Yuh saying Tousse should make the team before Tiger, because Tousse has more skill, and Tiger don't ?
If that is the case...
Where does Tiger play? - midfield and Tousse? - forward
Does Tousse play midfield?- no Can he? - yes
Does Tiger play forward ? - no Can he? - yes
Do we have many midfielders with skill ? - yes
Do we need more ?- maybe not, depending on the coach strategy, he may need a 'wildman', would be better to get a skilled 'wildman', IF one is available. If you use through balls, passer of the ball will be of concern, or midfielders that create space, then skill will be a concern, or if you have enough of these, you may need a defensive midfielder to win tackles and give to the creative midfielders etc...etc..It all depends on the individual coaches strategy.
Do we need forwards ? - always
How many do you carry? - again depends on strategy. If 2 required (4-4-2.e.g.), 5 might be too much, if 3, then 5-6 may be good, but we can't pick all the forwards available, it depends on if you will be using crosses, then you will need headers of the ball, or if through balls, then require speed, or creativity, forwards who can beat, or maybe forwards who can just shoot...

Now I have never seen Tousse play, so I can't outrightly say what his strengths/weakness are. But each coach would look for something (especially in a tryout)to suite, his style of team formation and strategy. Beeneman has been asked to do this and his approach seems to be, "not what you have done in the past, is what you can do fro me now". So from what he has seen so far, he chose his forwards to suite his plans. and he chose some midfielders. Then when he gets to see the rest, he will choose the best midfielders to suite his plans, not necessary, what one might term the best players mid you, but the best to suite his plans...
or he might re-evaluate his plans and choose a different set of players and leave out players he saw but did not choose int the past (n.b. i used did not choose, as opposed to rejected).

So berating Tiger, for a preference of Tousse should not be an issue, for people on this board. It is not a matter of who better than who, it is a matter of who can play a particular role, within a given structure..
Can either of them replace the other with their respective teams ? - I think not   

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 15, 2005, 12:13:55 PM »

In that case, Alberta, yuh son, could take ah ting...or yuh doh wha he associating with we....or yuh thinking, it is not fair to ah Trini born, who not stepping up, and yuh son who want to stepup has to take the shaft, and the team has to take the shaft, because you finding it ain't fair for ah non-trini-born to do the wuk......
If yuh doh mind a lil advice from the top goal scorer and Top beer-boy of this newly formed National B(eer) team...Leh yuh son come through, his father's country need him, I whether forward any one of my 5 buh dey doh drink, dat is why ah does have to hold down so much, have to keep up d family name...one ah d little ones (8 reading right now "from columbus to castro - the history of the caribbean 1492-1969 by Eric Williams".
Alberta, I never read that. when ah tell her dat, she start to tell meh bout the Colonialist and why we dress like we do....blah..blah..
And is not that she super bright or good student...she jus want to know all she can of her parents country, and yuh know when she would be going there? Whenever we can afford to take 6 of us there, which would probably mean when she is an adult...

So for we team sake, let the youth come thru nah, we need young legs to run to dah corner store quick..Coach cyar send you with yuh old foot, and dem true trini youths to big for that, dem wha be assistant and VP position an thing, and how much money dey making....is dem distant others willing to do what is necessary, to just be part of the ting, and really contribute.
signed : President elect BDW for life; maxg

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Football / Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already

« on: May 14, 2005, 12:52:51 PM »

I’m not saying we don’t have talented players I’m just saying if Adu was a Trini every body would be hailing the new king the kid is good even if he 17 his vision ball control and his ability to use both feet put him in a different class it don’t matter where he was born or who he plays for the kid is good 

I hear yuh...buh what I saying is ..yes Adu is good (special even)...I saying if we had equal oppurtunities , or more direct, equal attitudes towards development, we could most likely produce a few Adus (or Adues )...Our bigest problem is us, we can eventually produce the individuals as training and nuturing awareness improve, and I think it is in that process now...football is a team game though....and that has been our major obstacle...that is where attitudes, and exchanging respect with team-mates, opposing players, coaches, confidants, supporters, a mix, as opposed to an individual, plays what may be as far as we and team sports are concerned , a major role....like some fellas say...dah's is wha make WE we...Our individuality, our uniqueness, our ability to stand alone, and withstand any environment, our ability to achieve as individuals...our society preps us for it....

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Football / Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already

« on: May 14, 2005, 12:18:08 PM »

yea, buh he ent US either, so...an he playing for dem....so wha wrong with we, we have equally good youths, always had... buh yuh doesn/t know, improper attitude & future training/development, regressive sport environment, disruptive friends and peers, ignorant and selfish parents,abusive & insulting SUpporters...make every potential pearl, just want to stay in dey shell....thankfully few stepup...
Hurrah all T&T representatives...dah includes you Dwight,please doh mess we up again

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Football / Re: Brent Sancho: Do it for the fans.

« on: May 14, 2005, 11:22:27 AM »

no joke FF...trini blood line, yuh tink...dah is same fadder, boy..grands doh count

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Football / Re: Just for the T&T players!!! stop pulling stones and put yuh rocks in de jar!

« on: May 14, 2005, 10:00:55 AM »

Sub1, I think I understand ! buh ah could be wrong...no need for exposure bredda, keep it covered 
Look, I'm jus saying it is always easier to cast blame...than provide solutions and/or commit to what seems like solutions...

Yuh could blame blame JW for bring back BSC...yuh could blame TTFF for allowing JW to assume so much control...yuh could blame the T&T Gonv. for giving the run of Football to TTFF...yuh could blame the people of T&T for letting the Govn. do that....etc...etc...all the way back to colonialist ...all the way back....

Yuh always find someone to blame....more difficult to suggest/find solvers, and thus I have full respect for those that attempt to solve...i.e. People...govn..TTFF...JW...BSC....BSC....and You....

but we have moved on to the next phase, not necessary to dwell...whether you had exposed BSC or not...he is gone....if you must expose, help we expose Panama, Mexico, Guatamala, US, and Costa Rica, that is the job required now...if yuh can't, or mistaken, nobody wouldn't hold it against yuh...

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Football / Re: Brent Sancho: Do it for the fans.

« on: May 14, 2005, 09:21:15 AM »

Rangers leadin 4-0, ah wish dey would sub Andrews...plleeeesssee....

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Football / Re: Beenhakker has good mix for upcoming training camp.

« on: May 14, 2005, 09:00:10 AM »

Do you think that the coach should at least have an earlier  idea of who will be his final players would be aganust Panama and at least have them play together as a unit for a couple of warm ups?

This way the palyers  have a dequate tim to adjust to each other and to develop aflow for the game

How he coulda get a earlier idea Alberta? He never see the players play together. Obviously the one he could have seen play together before, the ones on the tapes nah, wasn't working...dah is why dey give him the job...so where dis idea was coming from divine revelation? We had plenty ideas, for the last few years, and when it didn't work, we blame the coach tactics, lack of subbing etc...if Been don't have an idea which players would suit his tactic, then he doing his  job, by checking out d guys. No? If it doesn't work (Peru team/Salavador), then he will know he is using the wrong tactic to suit the guys and opposition. He will den have to re-evaluate tactics, and players to suit Panama...dat is the difficulty of the job.....he basically getting 1 shot to get things right (Panama), and if a miss, hope for a richochet from the miss to hit Guatamala.....Do you disagree ? or misunderstand?

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Football / Re: Just for the T&T players!!! stop pulling stones and put yuh rocks in de jar!

« on: May 14, 2005, 08:46:38 AM »

so, yuh supporting now sub1. or still fighting down past? den while we at it, lehwe cuss up dem people for enslaving we forefathers and bringing dem to the caribbean. Buh wait......if dey didn't do dat, it wouldnah have no Trinidad or Tobago or maybe no Caribbean...hmmmnnn...it wouldnah have no we....cuss dem anyway, dah way worse dan football......

but understand by cussing dem, yuh cussing yuhself, and we.....

yeah....ah know....maxg speakin in tongues again....

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 13, 2005, 11:28:53 PM »

coach wat i need is an official list of players so my report go be correct i doh wa mix up

beer boy, chief beer boy. assiastant beer boy chief assistant beer boy, beer cooler ,beer taster an right back

for people to vex

    yes I

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 13, 2005, 10:04:08 AM »

Coach, I jus letting yuh know, today is Friday, so I practising from tonite.... It have some real competitors here, but if necessary, I will do some extra training on meh own...and if ah do say so myself, once ah get in the Zone, is "all fall down" for National players and Supporters alike......




once meh wifey ent around...den ah does only get, "buh maxg, dat is yuh 5th one ahready, yuh know man, yuh nuh goin on the field like dat ? ".

she does change meh game man

 

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Football / Re: Tickets Go On Sale Wednesday, May 11, for U.S. vs. Trinidad in Connecticut

« on: May 12, 2005, 09:09:50 PM »

Patriot ah think dat seat yuh pointing at is the 85 dollar...Forum Massive eh go be round yuh, unless Jack Warner is really truetrini
Forum massive should be 130 or 119...but if you call a seat, is deh ah buyin... is meh 1st live warrior game, so I buyin it like is meh las... Hell if we win, ah could dead from heart problems right dey...
So call something bro, I just have to finalize with meh riders,ah dun kno Fridge payin anything,buh ah have to check with d bacardi boys, an coolchile...point meh

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 12, 2005, 08:47:21 PM »

aye...aye...aye...
no drinkin on the xxxxking bench....
Alberta, some men here taking this ting for joke or wha?  Is we National team we playing....and man trying to pull fast one....As the Beer-Boys Manager(meh new self imposed title) I say las beer passing 5 mins before game start, and 5 mins after game done..But during dat game, yuh ever present Beer-boys will be keeping all beers under wraps, cooling...we gaurantee every now and then we will run some test to ensure that select beers are cooled at optimum cooling temperatures, and suds are of perfect texture....Our teammates will know that service is our Job 1.....

signed: Your Personal beer service team

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 12, 2005, 07:44:11 PM »

alllrite, allrite...yuh pass...yuh have connections , buh dah's it for we position, no more tryouts...when ah get drop last time,for we last World cup ah make meself President of the BDW assoc Leaders. Oh. for the uninitiated, Beer Drinkers Worldcup ass(es) &  (c)omm(un)i(t)ie(s) Leaders. Meh wife nominate meh

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 12, 2005, 07:08:07 PM »

Cowen, yuh see wha ah mean...man jostling ahready

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Football / Re: Chris Birchall ready for T&T football trial.

« on: May 12, 2005, 07:02:03 PM »

which one yuh doing right now ?

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Football / Re: Chris Birchall ready for T&T football trial.

« on: May 12, 2005, 06:56:08 PM »

meh not sure if yuh protesting or jus talkin to yuh self..all yuh do doh get vex with yuh odderself when he get fedup of the same post eh

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Football / Re: Favorite T&T Player.

« on: May 12, 2005, 04:21:10 PM »

Ince for his comedy of errors Shot-blocking...scary but no goal...meh wife say she never see Trini man get a rush from looking at Ince so....
Is only, "Oh gosh, oh gosh, no no no,  oh Lawdddddd...phew, he block it"

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Football / Re: Yorke and pros start arriving for first Beenhakker meeting.

« on: May 12, 2005, 04:16:52 PM »

damn, dat Spann news does not bode well fro me. I was impressed with his play so far this series.Was on my First 11 for sure...Pierre, now Spann

ah well... NEXT

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 12, 2005, 02:55:18 PM »

Not to frighten yuh eh Cowen, buh dah is no easy position dey yuh know...
Man does be jostling yuh for drinks like dey want yuh position an ting...
Yuh have to drink 20.833333 % of every case yuh serve, and sometimes dem man wha open 2 case same time an ting..So yuh have to remember to count.
 Las match one ah meh asst. in Baltimore run orf with the money an come back with a bottle ah Cockspur, the patrons drink it, and den ah had to beg for de man, bout how he ent bring back Oak....ah had to fire he yes..
So people management skills very important..
and finally, when store close an drinks run-out, yuh does have to find somebody house to finish d lime, with a cook yes...

Ask for cell phone, map, car to transport peeps, and ah apartment, jes in case...

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Football / Re: match report TT 0 v NORTH EAST STARS 2

« on: May 12, 2005, 01:34:29 PM »

........
I hope it's not to little to late

Not personal on U Cowen

Yuh know, I hearing many people making that statement...What if it is to late? Would things be done differently knowing that? Wha, we eh go play no games, pick no team, drop out the competition? Find ah nex scapegoat coach?
Who doh want out, "eat your biscuit and shut your mouth"
This is the road chosen, this is the road we will go down.... forget bout what ifs and maybes'. If we don't make it, we don't make it. Wha the hell late or earlier have to do with anything. "Cyar have yuh cake and eat it too"
Been have to do it, if he don't. We in the same boat we have always "been". So what is the big calamity?

We going down so. If we don't make it. Been gone, we find a nex scapegoat, and go again, or we find a next coach and continue trying.
Are we warriors or wusses... Well get d fXXk up leh we go den !
who want to lie down on this site and hold dey head an bawl, start now, Who ready to face adversity, no matter how many times is come, to eventually truimph ...... Come with me, dah is the road I looking for...

Players was so good back den, coaches was so good back den, look wha we come to...how the hell we never make it before den?
USA, Jamaica, and Haiti (doh dey thief) were always more supportive, of their athletes than we...We biggest sport fans is the athletes/Coaches real  immediate families and friends, to everybody else he is a shithound and somebody else should be dey....well to hell with dat, I supporting whoever they send to represent meh....even if he is the biggest shithound to everybody else....

All kinda big shit talk bout not settling for mediocrity, and crticism and ting....allyuh just "Lying down in the road and bawlin"... If we lose a practice game to the women team I supporting... Yeah, I is ah Mook so....everybody else is a rocket scientist, SAY WHAT

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors Forum X1

« on: May 12, 2005, 09:00:57 AM »

Las time ah make beer-boy, and jus so...some Can. foreign fella discover he have Trini roots...boom...ah get drop...ah not tryin out again.....unless ah get cooler, a truck to carry it in...an a cellphone to call the corner store...plus 2 asst. hat-men to help collect next rounds..

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Football / Re: Tickets Go On Sale Wednesday, May 11, for U.S. vs. Trinidad in Connecticut

« on: May 12, 2005, 08:09:22 AM »

130 OR 133?...wham nobody want sit nex to meh or wha.
look ah in 130...now how ah getting in meh cooler - strictly labatt & kick we bringin from de Great white North

You blame dem? Wid that nasty labatt you bringing dong, doh tell meh is Blue! .. I say leh we go with the sam's army it go be real mass!

Did you already get in 130, I looking to order mine!

BLUE, yes....dat is like the 4th Canal in "3 Canal". I didn't deal with the Kick yet, buh ah jus figure if we sitting with Sam, it jus might be appropiate.

Ah didn't order yet, buh dah is the way we going or what ? 130 dat is

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Football / Re: Tickets Go On Sale Wednesday, May 11, for U.S. vs. Trinidad in Connecticut

« on: May 11, 2005, 08:59:18 PM »

130 OR 133?...wham nobody want sit nex to meh or wha.
look ah in 130...now how ah getting in meh cooler - strictly labatt & kick we bringin from de Great white North

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General Discussion / ah friend send meh this

« on: May 11, 2005, 08:44:02 PM »

> >Subject: Trinbago Memories
> > > >
> > > > Close your eyes, and go back . . .
> > > >> Before the Internet or the MAC,
> > > >> Before Uzis and crack.
> > > >> Before Nike and Reebok, before the NBA.
> > > >> Before SEGA or Super Nintendo.
> > > >> Before burglar proofing and KFC.
> > > >> Before soca, dub and chutney
> > > >> Before children's rights and women's lib.
> > > >
> > > >> Way back...
> > > >> I'm talking about hide and seek at dusk.
> > > >> Looking through the window, sitting in the
> > > > gallery,
> > > >> Licking your lips over hops and condensed milk.
> > > >> Going to Saturday afternoon confession.
> > > >> Drinking Chocolate tea and cocoa tea and green
> > > > tea and shining bush tea.
> > > >> Carrying sandwiches in a brown paper bag to
> > > > school.>
> > > > Eating Chilibibi and Press with green and red
> > > > syrup, with or without milk.
> > > >> Bathing in cold water from a barrel with a
> > > > calabash.
> > > >> Hopscotch, butterscotch, hoop, Jacks, Police and
> > > > Thief, rounders !
> > > >> Pass-out Cricket in the road with a lime
> > > >> Lying on the floor reading Mandrake and
> > > > Katzenjammer Kids and Mutt and Jeff.
> > > >> Borrowing books from the library.
> > > >> Hula Hoops and Jawbreakers and kaiser balls.
> > > >> Bathing in the rain under the guttering.
> > > >> Going for walks on Sunday afternoon. Band
> > > > Concerts.
> > > >> Window shopping.
> > > >> Wearing old pants to the beach and collecting sea
> > > > shells and pretty stones.
> > > >> Wait. . .
> > > >> The excitemnt of catching candle flies in a jar
> > > > and batimamselles.
> > > >> Putting the ti-marie to sleep.
> > > >> Killing birds with sling shot and cooking and
> > > > eating them.
> > > >> Pitching Marbles and playing jockey in the canal.
> > > >> When a calypso on the radio in Lent would have
> > > > caused a scandal.
> > > >> When going to town was a major outing requiring
> > > > serious preparation.
> > > >> Spending holidays by your grandmother and aunts.
> > > >> Castor oil and senna pods at the end of August to
> > > > clean you out!
> > > >> Eating caimite and mammy seepote and downs and
> > > > sapodilla and sugar apple and tying up your mouth
> > > > with lalay.
> > > >> Climbing trees, skipping rope and eating a bucket
> > > > of long mango.
> > > >> Making a Christmas tree from a guava branch with
> > > > cotton for snow.
> > > >> You thought apples and grapes only grew at
> > > > Christmas time.
> > > >> Cops and Robbers, Cowboys and Indians, keeping an
> > > > eye out for soucoyant and la diablesse.
> > > >> Sliding down the bannister, jumping on the bed.
> > > > Pillow fights.
> > > >> Having a pet chicken, duck, rabbit or goat and
> > > > crying when it became a meal.
> > > >> Being tickled to death.
> > > >> Running till you were out of breath.
> > > >> Laughing so hard that your stomach hurt!
> > > >> Being tired from playing....remember that?
> > > >> Going to the Chinee shop for Trebor and a penny
> > > > sweet biscuit.
> > > >> There's more . . .
> > > >> Scratching your mother's head.
> > > >> Fighting for the bowl when your mother made a
> > > > cake.
> > > >> Churning coconut or custard ice cream on Sunday
> > > > and licking the palette.
> > > >> Peeling cane with your teeth.
> > > >> Remember when . . .
> > > >> When there no sneakers, only wachekongs and you
> > > > washed them every Saturday and whitened them.
> > > >> When you knew nothing of rotweillers or pit bulls
> > > > only pot hounds.
> > > >> When a penny was a decent allowance, and another
> > > > penny a huge bonus.
> > > >> When you'd reach into a muddy gutter for a penny.
> > > > When fashionable young ladies wore crinoline and
> > > > boleros.
> > > >> When your mother wore stockings that came in two
> > > > pieces and had garters..
> > > >> When all of your male teachers wore ties and
> > > > female teachers had buns.
> > > >> When you had to be rich to have a car or a radio.
> > > >> When there was no TV and you went to sleep at
> > > > 7.00 o'clock.
> > > >> When there was no designer water.
> > > >> When laundry detergent had free glasses, dishes
> > > > or towels hidden inside the box.
> > > >> When any parent could discipline any chile or feed
> > > > him or use him to carry groceries, and nobody, not
> > > > even the kid, thought a thing of it.
> > > >> When it was considered a great privilege to be
> > > > taken out to dinner at a real restaurant with your
> > > > parents.
> > > >> When every kitchen had a safe with wire mesh.
> > > >> Milk came in rum bottles and had to be boiled and
> > > > the cream was a great treat..
> > > >> When they threatened to keep children "down" if they
> > > > failed...and they did!
> > > > When your mother used to say that your licks hurt
> > > > her more than it hurt you.
> > > >> When adults spoke in code so "little ears"
> > > > wouldn't hear.
> > > >> Basically, we were in fear for our lives but it
> > > > wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, or
> > > > gangs.
> > > >> Disapproval of parents and grandparents,
> > > > godparents, tanties... was a much bigger threat!
> > > >> If you can remember any of these things,
> > > >> You must be my age!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> >Dont forget Gru Gru bef and tolomb bum bum!!
> >or making kite with flour glue and cociea as a frame,
> >using zwill on the tail, using typewriter ribbon for a tail,
> >getting very upset when your kite goes HiOOH! down the street and
>trying to
> >climb the tree down the block to get it back!
> >Remember Guava Valley down by the National stadium??
> >How about fishing down slipway??
> >using a slingshot to shoot down a jap nest and run for your life!!!
> >
> >pelting stones at a full mango tree when you hungry so you dont have to
>go
> >home for lunch!
> >catching fowls in the backyard and cutting the head off and putting the
>
> >headless body under a bucket to stop it from running around!
> >helping the fishermen pull seine in Mayaro so you could get some free
>fish!
> >catching guabin up Pompeii river (infact I have some in California from
>
> >catching at Fatima River several years ago!!! he he he )
> >Having a marbles club and storing all your marbles in a 5lb KLIM tin.
> >Using a steel ball bearing as a "tor"
> >Attaching playing cards with clothes pins to the back wheel of your
>bicycle
> >so it sounds like a motorbike!
> >Playing with toy guns and not having to worry about the police shooting
>at
> >you!
> >putting sugar on your bread and butter,
> >Getting up early to go to the bread bakery for fresh hot hops bread!
> >cooking every part of the chicken except the head and eating it too
> >including sucking the bones!
> >Getting some nice hot Pow ( cha su bao) from a chinese restaurant.
> >sweeping the dirt backyard with a cociea broom!
> >getting your sunday coconut water and boil corn or roast corn by the
> >savannah,
> >Going to theathre to see an Audie Murphy Movie!
> >paying ten cents for a taxi!
> >lining up with the school kids to waive the Union Jack at Queen
>Elizabeth
> >when she visits!
> >Getting your butt whipped when you were bad and never thinking about child abuse!
> >buying blackpudding from the street vendor

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Football / Re: The Touches Match Report.....Fellas doe panic!

« on: May 11, 2005, 10:02:56 AM »

Very good stuff Touches & FF. I totally agree, cannot knock that plan, successful or not.

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Football / Re: match report TT 0 v NORTH EAST STARS 2

« on: May 11, 2005, 09:32:35 AM »

well.
1. There is no BSC's book on substitution.
2. If Been doh do something, is Been didn't do it, leave everybody else out.That why he is making the big bucks, to make the big decisions.
3.Yuh go rile up some unreasonable men, who go waste down, without reason (a la unreasonable).
4. We cyar go back at this point, if is wrong road we gone, we done lost and will have to find our way from here.
5. ah know yuh kicksin
6. I kicksin too
 

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Football / Re: match report TT 0 v NORTH EAST STARS 2

« on: May 11, 2005, 07:45:22 AM »

Maybe he using BSC's book on substitution

totally unnecessary doc... ...no stepping back

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Football / Re: Triniwings match report

« on: May 10, 2005, 09:46:09 PM »

Like Touches a good report, but very different viewpoint. That is all good.
Patriot and Cowens's next. It is clear doh, that NE stars played quite well, and outshone the national selection. As stated, I am not surprised.