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Football / Re: youth football

« on: March 23, 2005, 03:09:41 PM »

Observer

1) You are aware that we have plenty players with a talent for football. How many parent/kids willing to sacrifice to achieve that potential is another story. - Better chance with books.
'The Academy' cannot accomadate everybody, and no one but God can predict who will be a hit and who just missed, or who would get an injury just before, or had a genetic makeup to deal with the rigours involved, i.e. wouldn't drop-out. especially if selecting from an early age.
So the academy then will get the then obvious standouts, and who can afford it, and the later bloomers and the underpriveledged, will sorry, we didn't know. Does that sound familiar?

2) If the player likely hood of making football a profession in someone else's country is increased. Explain how that is/was a Resource of T&T please ! How does T&T or anybody but that Country benefit from him? You are aware that if have Brazilians playing football all over the world, and in Brazil, and the make some of the biggest monies as footballer put together. So how come Brazil has so many homeless children and abject poverty in it metropolitan areas. How come Brazil had to default on Loans a few years back.
As it stands players can be associated with clubs who can get a fee for said player, but Countries cannot sell players. While the club is at it, it is in the club benefit therefore to get the best potential players and develop them, so they can achieve...
This is already in place..

On a final note. Academies are elitist and sends a negative message to those that are not selected they are not good enough, and at an early age this is rarely the case. Who does the selecting...ah dun hear the talk'Friend ting"..."Money pass"...."He sleeping with she"..

I better hush yes, I dun with the Academy talk.

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Football / Re: youth football

« on: March 23, 2005, 08:27:22 AM »

Xactly. We don't have a properly organized league, we don't have a lucrative system for these youths to progress too. We seemingly don't have many opportunities -like higher education- to give to the youths, we seemingly don't have an organized federation. Therefore, what is the point in having an academy to produce who, for what.
Places that have sport scademies, have things in place for it's graduates.

What is the point of UWI offering a degree in Rocket Science, because we like to watch football on TV, and if we had a Sat. we could see more football. Will it benefit the Caribbean to invest in building a rocket?
 
If anybody bawl good idea, ah go beat dey sc**t eh 

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Football / Re: Timeout fellas. This new forum

« on: March 22, 2005, 10:59:52 PM »

agree

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Football / Re: youth football

« on: March 22, 2005, 06:08:15 PM »

I guess I over simplfied.
 The bottom line is we would not be better off.

On an addtional note...Where will the finances for supporting these acadamies come from. What will be the returns to attracted investors..Don't say Government, as the Government is barely supporting as is..I imagine they can come from private investors, who may (or may not) demand certain returns. So unless an underpriviledged youth is extremely talented, who you think will be attending these acadamies.
I suspect a priviledged many, an an under-priviledged few. What can of general public action you think that selection process will generate.

Many young Trinis seem to operate on "I can think it, therefore we must have it". Reality operates on a different level..

Why are their no soccer acadamies in every 'developed' country that loves soccer? Is it they do not want to develop their youths ?

I appreciate people's desire to improve our game/competitive level at home, I am just fairly certain, that
1. It is not the answer to T&T soccer woes
2. There will be less benefits than expected
3. There are more areas that require more long term planning and our country will reap greater benefits on more differnt levels than just football

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General Discussion / Re: Here we go with de crime again

« on: March 22, 2005, 03:57:25 PM »

Loud and Clear ironman, Especially

What even more shitty and scary  is the idiotic,simplistic suggestions like hang jail etc......
T&T dont have one gun factory and no coca plant but de place flooded with gun and cocaine,it should take big capital to get either business ent?.......yet the cry is those damn low lives is de cause of crime..

That is what I can't understand, on the Law/Crime fighting side...

Man getting hold with gun, and is like they manufacture it in dey yard...How one major supplier cyar get tap yet?

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Football / Re: youth football

« on: March 22, 2005, 03:43:42 PM »

to break it down simply...Forget the National awareness issue

Presently, We have some of our better players getting foreign contracts and scholarships....Dem gone...many not to be seen on a National scale again.
Now we start a football academy, increase the level of the youths from an earlier age...As they develop even better, yuh think they won't get more or earlier scholarships and foreign contracts.. They will go even faster....so the ones who don't accept these lucrative offers stay, but would they be our best, sure the overall ability will improve, but we would have lost more of our better players at an even faster rate as the system evelves into an elite supplier of cheap footballers...How will that help us produce a better National program?

This is just an opinion eh, but as I see it may lead to a faster Talent drain on the short Term, and same boat on the long term.

Nah, I think our National development, can only be improved by having stuff( jobs-professional & otherwise) to keep our better players home. Thus it may seem as if I am not talking about improving our football on a youth level, yet in fact I am.   - see previous post

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Football / Re: Welcome back maxg

« on: March 21, 2005, 07:24:59 PM »

Ban Me.. d my-T maxg...yuh mus be..

No not You dear ! I wasn't writing nothing Dear

Yeah, was a good vacation in Dominican Republic....Does make yuh appreciate lil tings in Life tho

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Football / Re: youth football

« on: March 21, 2005, 05:52:34 PM »

I seriously think people placing to much emphasis on development of youth thru football acadamies and major financial programs for the youth to win a scholarship /contract in foreign and move away.
Nutrition aand training education should not be for football development, as much as it should be for community/Public health systems, especially where we have KFC, McDonalds type fast food outlets today.

You cannot compare our youth system to a England/South america youth system, the economic culture is entirely different. Anybody have any idea how many people in these countries do not make it. What is in place tho, is oppurtunity that have they don't make it in football, or cricket, or whatever sport they choose..they can still get training to make it in some other profession...whether construction, medicine, or marketing to accounting, engineering, or industry (sponsors), but they all contribute in some way....we can develop kids to go away and help them contribute to building their system....

Let us invest in developing the Country, that would be the big picture...
If 20000 youths are developed, how many kids would actually make it...

If we educate most of the population, most of the kids, parents and grands will benefit..

nb. I am not proposing boycotting the KFC's of the Country, but becoming aware of things like, Obesity, Oncology, respiratory and lIver deseases etc..etc...Many athletes here, cannot afford to eat fast food, they live on homemade sandwiches, milks, salads, carbo, ...the proper food groups etc...

No Oak, Carib, Toke, Party,fast-foods,liksin someting, limin and chillin etc...So when people shout to dem youths how Trini sweet, careful what yuh really advising them to do...

Football development (and everything else) of dem youths start with we.
Not just dey parents. That is National

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General Discussion / Re: Brain drain, Talent drain ???

« on: March 20, 2005, 10:26:40 PM »

Most certainly...Not counting the future stars that leave at an early age, or children of those ambitious or talented people that are born foreign. Observation + experience + interaction is possibly the best development tool..thus those that stayed observe/exp/int with whom for the most part, tier 2 or 3 players. Most parents spend on avg. 2-5 hrs with their kids, the rest of the time they are working. So the kids interaction for most of their lives is with whom ? In most of our developed society, interaction is not so much as among family as among acquaintances....T&T though would be much more affected due to our size..
 
On a sport level, we cannot say for talented individuals to deny the oppurtunity to advance themselves and remain in a situation wherby the would become frustrated and lost. So they must leave...In the meanwhile, mechanisms must be put into place to ensure they have a niche to return to..If not them and their offspring could become lost forever
To the further detriment of the Country... In my growing up, I was able to see, meet, and talk to many of our National athletes in their prime..
a little tip went a long way..
Today, most of our National athletes live abroad, no interaction, no experience, no discussion, with local youths....unless they come home for a holiday, and then only the immediate family may see them, sometimes..in few cases there is some time spent..not donation of jerseys and balls, but quality time and info. Jersey and balls has it's place

I wil say again, our football problem - inability to maintain a certain level of dominance in our region, is a society and cultural problem..yet there are solutions...but we cannot depend on how it used to be, things cannot not be as it was. We have to aim for a positive evolution.

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General Discussion / Brain drain, Talent drain ???

« on: March 20, 2005, 09:48:52 PM »

One of flex pages..
Check the # of Foreign players

http://www.socawarriors.net/Players_clubs.htm

in addition

http://www.socawarriorssc.com/socawarriors/scripts/college_players.php

Now in the ole days , the community and developing youths as well as students of the game had the oppourtunity to assist each other and exchange and cross-develop their skills through, play and competition..
Every big player may have had a direct contact with aproxx. 40 to 100's of players from around his community, and assist in the overall development of T&T youth.

With so many of our present stronger players away and unable to interact as in the past, who will our youths watch, and get a lil lesson, and tip from...the ones who didn't make it, so won't development and improvement nauturally diminish or detrioate..

Same can be said of migration of many of the brighter stars...or many of our good people...or many of our academic stars etc..etc..

Not all leave, but it reduces our development pool, that T&T in no way can be as strong as we were...especially given our relatively small population on the world scale...

ps: SH, Boca Chica was borse..The fam. is totally rejuv. We on for Victoria weekend, O-35, O45..