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Football / Re: Where de NIKE deal Wallace promise?

« on: January 25, 2020, 10:15:42 PM »

Where de NIKE deal Wallace promise?

However, ah like what Wallace doing since he took ova.

But he shouldn't lie about de NIKE deal to win election.

The TTFA must be more transparent.

Stop have illegal meetings with TTSL, Pro League and TTFA, everybody should be involved and treated fairly.

Wallace must change de TTFA culture and de TTFA must get some sponsorships.

Carnival is here, de Hotel, bar and hosting area should be open now, nuff money to make this month and next month for the TTFA, even if de Hotel can't open, they could hold nuff fetes in de Hall area.

Fenwick should have a team in training too, what is de keep back?

There is a certain saying if something sounds to good to be true it probably is not true from the time Look Loy started saying that they had money and sponsorship already you know he was lying he said the same thing before he took over the super league and none of them clubs get they money yet.

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Football / Re: TTFA News Thread.

« on: January 23, 2020, 02:02:12 PM »

WATCH: Chairman of the TTFA Technical Committee, Keith Look Loy, discusses Project 2026

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Yx4IDBiWc9Q" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Yx4IDBiWc9Q</a>

Emotional people make knee jerk decisions so people don't get carried away with this emotional idiot .

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: January 12, 2020, 08:06:15 PM »

I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: January 12, 2020, 04:33:39 PM »

ffisback, why so?

According to what he is saying he is going to do what Lincoln Phillip and Randy Waldrum was doing to TT woman football that's not good for the development of football in TT.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: January 12, 2020, 01:57:10 PM »

WATCH: Men's Senior Team head coach Terry Fenwick addressed the media for the first time today at a Press Conference held at the National Cycling Velodrome Press Room in Couva

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/CmDuxUqDhmg" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/CmDuxUqDhmg</a>

TT in some big trouble now!!

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: December 29, 2019, 08:48:05 AM »

Its sad to see a country like Trinidad that has a Latin culture always hiring a bunch of English coach's I guess they will never get it right.

He came, he conquered all... He earned it!!

Its sad to see a country like Trinidad that has a Latin culture always hiring a bunch of English coach's I guess they will never get it right.

He came, he conquered all... He earned it!!

Ffsback, while some aspects of our culture have survived, we are anglophile to the core.  How many of us go to SA to work and study. Very few. How often TT does play Ven.? 10 times? I am not sure, but not very often. This may change with the influx of Ven. Spanish and French should be compulsory again in high school.  As a matter of fact, it should start in primary school.

While the English did put the icing on the cake  all the ingredients is from the Spanish with a little French topping just to give it a extra taste while I agree Trinidad has a anglophile influence I disagree with us been anglophile to the core.

yes we have Spanish and French influences, but those influences has fallen off dramatically. The Spanish may be revived with the influx of Ven. But honestly most Trinis can't speak a decent sentence in french or Spanish to save they live. By the late 60s the little patois and Spanish we had were gone. Only Parang was there, and that is for only 3 months of the year. Ask them Ven. what they think about our Spanish. They go tell you. We have been heavily influence by Americanism from the 70s. We are American Anglophones to the core now..

I agree with most of what you are saying because half of my great grandparents spoke Spanish but once they move to town that was the end of the Spanish speaking people in my family but I just don't agree with Trinidad being a anglophones to the core even with the Americanism the Ven people would save Trinidad and bring us back to were we should be.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: December 29, 2019, 08:30:48 AM »

I wonder if anyone has stopped to notice that Latin American teams in concacaf struggle against us and jamaica? the only Latin team in concacaf who runs rings over us is honduras, and that’s because they have big strong tall players like us who match us with speed and physicality.

the Mexicans would rather face any central american team than TT or jamaica, not that we beat them often or dominate them, but they struggle against us, and that’s because we play more of an english brand that the Latin players struggle against. in all honesty European football is a solid brand (contrary to popular opinion) and we in trinidad should adapt ourselves to that brand and learn it well.

People make the mistake and confuse TT football with Jamaica football but they not the same the English game suites Jamaican football because they are fast physical and athletic and also discipline teams in the CONCACAF struggle to deal with this even though the Jamaicans have a  loosing record vs Costa Rica and Honduras they have a better record than TT vs those teams.

TT dose not have those quality's we can't bully those teams like how Jamaica does I saw a game were Evan Wise make a Costa Rican player look bad and the Costa Rican player went and kick him down I remember a game where R Latapy had to be taken off the field in a stretcher when them Costa Rican players was done with him I can't remember any team from TT been physically imposing we just not built for that game.

ah mate you’re wrong, our game has changed tremendously since the days of the dwarika’s the latapy’s and the evans wise, we saw the last of those players after the 2006 world cup. today we have beefy players like levi garcia, danial cyrus, khaleem hyland, Ryan telfer, kenwin jones, neval hackshaw, Sheldon bateau, even smaller players like jovin jones and kevin molino has beefed up.

I remember watching a game recently and the mexican broadcasters was talking about how physical trinidad and jamaica were and the had some apprehension of facing us. we no longer have small nasty lightweight players unless they came from SSFL or the pro league.

I agree with TT being a more physical team now but unfortunately the results remain the same.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: December 29, 2019, 02:06:10 AM »

I wonder if anyone has stopped to notice that Latin American teams in concacaf struggle against us and jamaica? the only Latin team in concacaf who runs rings over us is honduras, and that’s because they have big strong tall players like us who match us with speed and physicality.

the Mexicans would rather face any central american team than TT or jamaica, not that we beat them often or dominate them, but they struggle against us, and that’s because we play more of an english brand that the Latin players struggle against. in all honesty European football is a solid brand (contrary to popular opinion) and we in trinidad should adapt ourselves to that brand and learn it well.

People make the mistake and confuse TT football with Jamaica football but they not the same the English game suites Jamaican football because they are fast physical and athletic and also discipline teams in the CONCACAF struggle to deal with this even though the Jamaicans have a  loosing record vs Costa Rica and Honduras they have a better record than TT vs those teams.

TT dose not have those quality's we can't bully those teams like how Jamaica does I saw a game were Evan Wise make a Costa Rican player look bad and the Costa Rican player went and kick him down I remember a game where R Latapy had to be taken off the field in a stretcher when them Costa Rican players was done with him I can't remember any team from TT been physically imposing we just not built for that game.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: December 29, 2019, 12:30:02 AM »

Its sad to see a country like Trinidad that has a Latin culture always hiring a bunch of English coach's I guess they will never get it right.

He came, he conquered all... He earned it!!

Its sad to see a country like Trinidad that has a Latin culture always hiring a bunch of English coach's I guess they will never get it right.

He came, he conquered all... He earned it!!

Ffsback, while some aspects of our culture have survived, we are anglophile to the core.  How many of us go to SA to work and study. Very few. How often TT does play Ven.? 10 times? I am not sure, but not very often. This may change with the influx of Ven. Spanish and French should be compulsory again in high school.  As a matter of fact, it should start in primary school.

While the English did put the icing on the cake  all the ingredients is from the Spanish with a little French topping just to give it a extra taste while I agree Trinidad has a anglophile influence I disagree with us been anglophile to the core.

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Football / Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.

« on: December 25, 2019, 03:06:18 AM »

Its sad to see a country like Trinidad that has a Latin culture always hiring a bunch of English coach's I guess they will never get it right.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: December 01, 2019, 11:18:55 AM »

Hart did not play the typical English style. It was a mixture. Tiresais is correct to a point. We did play that type of game, but not all the time. We were passing the ball around very good also. But Panama was one team that upset our rhythm in the GC. They "roughed up" our players and never let them get into their type of game. We should have won that game. Maybe the guys were mentally tired. I don't know.

But the final nail in the coffin for Steven was the lost to Haiti in Panama. That was the game to the Conmebol tournament. Our guys were not mentally into that game. We did not have KJ. But we should not have  mattered. Maybe Steven did not get his message accross to the guys, or they thought that they could have got by Haiti. I think the players underestimated Haiti. That lost pissed of JW. He wanted let go SH from the beginning. But that would have back fired. So the lost to Haiti was the right time.

I know why we lost the game. We were inactive for about 6 weeks between the GC and the game against Haiti. For a team like Trini, that is too long. Too much time for the players(especially the ones at home) not playing constant football. Hart should have gotten JW to arrange 2 games  for the locals to keep them in some kind of shape. But the gulf be DJW and SW was as wide as Paria. he was already hell bent on sacking Steven.

SH had turn TT into a set play team TT had become like Gareth Southgate team in England our attack had become predictable .
SH had lost all the important games that he played the problem was DJW waited to long to fire him.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: December 01, 2019, 11:02:14 AM »

I'm English, he didn't play typical English football. Stereotypical English football is tough tackling, quick counter-attacking football, with a reliance on direct, quick play to the wings and typically the use of two strikers.

His play was slower, often used a single striker, and emphasised winning in midfield if I remember correctly.

Playing slower or with 1 striker doesn't change the fact that he was still playing English football it maybe a broken down version but it is still the same crap.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: December 01, 2019, 03:05:10 AM »

I think winning any competition in football is generally difficult. I understand why you might think that SSFL and the like don't prepare the same, but are we going to get someone who has won a top-tier professional league? It'd be interesting to find out exactly what competitions any of our NT managers have ever won?

Vranes seems to be competent at whatever he puts his hand to in T&T football - he did well at Central in his many roles and did well for the NT.

I don't think Vranes is the right man for the job. I don't know which team he coaches. Maybe QPCC?  I just don't know. I saw him with the TT team in Richmond. They were preparing for that same Shell cup in JA. The played  the US B team and loss 1-0. They had a small reception for them and he spoke very briefly. He appeared to be a soft spoken guy. Did not know how to asses him. But then a week later, to my surprise I read that they won the cup. But it appears like one minutes he is JW good books, next min. he is out. I think he coached St. Vincent, and probably Antigua and Grenada. I am not really sure. Then he dabble with almost every pro-league club in TT. You all may not like it but he has plenty local and regional bona fides. he has been in the Caribbean for more than 20 years.

But, WW and team will have to make the assessment on who the next coach will be. We don't know the intricacies of DL contract with TTFA/Concacaf/FIFA. In my honest opinion I don't see any local coach that I will feel comfortable with at this time. Angus might be the only one. He is young and vibrant. He probably has  a "football head". But that head is coaching schools boys. Coach "independent" adults is a different thing.

If TTFA decide to go foreign, what will they want him to do? Just coach the team for the next GC, and/or also do some serious developmental with the U-17s, U-19s, U-23s. Will they want him to do technical duties or hire a separate coach. Most of the coaches I see allyuh mentioned will only be in TT for carnival or a weekend in Tobago. We have gotten some good foreign coaches before. And we have been burnt by some foreign coaches. I really don't know of any foreign I can confidently say, "pick he". So that is my 2 cent.

I was at a game in Richmond VA were TT loss 1-0 to a U S A Olympic team back 1995 while I was disappointed I realize that Z Vanes uses friendly's to look at players I don't see Z Vanes as a long term solution for TT football but short term he can help. TT does not have the money to pay a big name coach that people here pushing for so they have to get a coach that is willing to work with them .

DL should not be allowed to coach another game its a waist of time he is doing the same thing SH did TT needs a coach who is going to give players like J Garcia M W Ling M P Angeron K Julien C Benny  etc international games so they can develop there games so they can get a chance to go and play in much better leagues or else they go end up playing in leagues like I league USL and CPL Z Vanes is the 1 that gave players like A Dwarika E Wise S John and A Elcock there break so he will give these young guys there break they need to get to the 2022 playoff game so they can be ready for 2026.

You’re a fool, Hart and DL are not in the same category, Hart took us to one of our best rankings in history and was sabotaged... DL was not sabotaged, he went along with the sabotage

Stop talking that nonsense on here like people dumb enough to go along with those lies

SH sabotaged he own self when he came down to TT and try to play that same old backward English football that they play in Canada.

Your daddy the dictator sabotaged him and gave that sell out DL a lot of support in the beginning... what football you think you’re boy DL was playing?

Hart was playing a mix of styles tbh as Beenie pointed out, he was ultra ambitious with his style of play

Gtfoh with that nonsense you’re talking

Both DL and SH does play English football DL look better when he had them English men on his technical staff but once they left it was all downhill both of them is just not good enough to coach at the international level.

Hart watches la liga etc wth are going with this only English ball he watches, you’re making things up as you go along, TT played attacking football, not that bs DL was playing

Dude watching la liga is not going to make somebody all of a sudden start to play good football like they play in  la liga that's something you have to train for you spending to much time with that  sensimania girl the reality is TT football system was built from English football Canadian football were SH was trained was built from  English football so you see the apple didn't fall far from the three.

You don’t know the man and what you were seeing wasn’t typical English football ... so no one knows wth you’re talking about

You’re jealous, saw the same thing with others like corneal etc

Dude even Stevie Wonder could see SH does play English football get over it.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: December 01, 2019, 01:12:09 AM »

I think winning any competition in football is generally difficult. I understand why you might think that SSFL and the like don't prepare the same, but are we going to get someone who has won a top-tier professional league? It'd be interesting to find out exactly what competitions any of our NT managers have ever won?

Vranes seems to be competent at whatever he puts his hand to in T&T football - he did well at Central in his many roles and did well for the NT.

I don't think Vranes is the right man for the job. I don't know which team he coaches. Maybe QPCC?  I just don't know. I saw him with the TT team in Richmond. They were preparing for that same Shell cup in JA. The played  the US B team and loss 1-0. They had a small reception for them and he spoke very briefly. He appeared to be a soft spoken guy. Did not know how to asses him. But then a week later, to my surprise I read that they won the cup. But it appears like one minutes he is JW good books, next min. he is out. I think he coached St. Vincent, and probably Antigua and Grenada. I am not really sure. Then he dabble with almost every pro-league club in TT. You all may not like it but he has plenty local and regional bona fides. he has been in the Caribbean for more than 20 years.

But, WW and team will have to make the assessment on who the next coach will be. We don't know the intricacies of DL contract with TTFA/Concacaf/FIFA. In my honest opinion I don't see any local coach that I will feel comfortable with at this time. Angus might be the only one. He is young and vibrant. He probably has  a "football head". But that head is coaching schools boys. Coach "independent" adults is a different thing.

If TTFA decide to go foreign, what will they want him to do? Just coach the team for the next GC, and/or also do some serious developmental with the U-17s, U-19s, U-23s. Will they want him to do technical duties or hire a separate coach. Most of the coaches I see allyuh mentioned will only be in TT for carnival or a weekend in Tobago. We have gotten some good foreign coaches before. And we have been burnt by some foreign coaches. I really don't know of any foreign I can confidently say, "pick he". So that is my 2 cent.

I was at a game in Richmond VA were TT loss 1-0 to a U S A Olympic team back 1995 while I was disappointed I realize that Z Vanes uses friendly's to look at players I don't see Z Vanes as a long term solution for TT football but short term he can help. TT does not have the money to pay a big name coach that people here pushing for so they have to get a coach that is willing to work with them .

DL should not be allowed to coach another game its a waist of time he is doing the same thing SH did TT needs a coach who is going to give players like J Garcia M W Ling M P Angeron K Julien C Benny  etc international games so they can develop there games so they can get a chance to go and play in much better leagues or else they go end up playing in leagues like I league USL and CPL Z Vanes is the 1 that gave players like A Dwarika E Wise S John and A Elcock there break so he will give these young guys there break they need to get to the 2022 playoff game so they can be ready for 2026.

You’re a fool, Hart and DL are not in the same category, Hart took us to one of our best rankings in history and was sabotaged... DL was not sabotaged, he went along with the sabotage

Stop talking that nonsense on here like people dumb enough to go along with those lies

SH sabotaged he own self when he came down to TT and try to play that same old backward English football that they play in Canada.

Your daddy the dictator sabotaged him and gave that sell out DL a lot of support in the beginning... what football you think you’re boy DL was playing?

Hart was playing a mix of styles tbh as Beenie pointed out, he was ultra ambitious with his style of play

Gtfoh with that nonsense you’re talking

Both DL and SH does play English football DL look better when he had them English men on his technical staff but once they left it was all downhill both of them is just not good enough to coach at the international level.

Hart watches la liga etc wth are going with this only English ball he watches, you’re making things up as you go along, TT played attacking football, not that bs DL was playing

Dude watching la liga is not going to make somebody all of a sudden start to play good football like they play in  la liga that's something you have to train for you spending to much time with that  sensimania girl the reality is TT football system was built from English football Canadian football were SH was trained was built from  English football so you see the apple didn't fall far from the three.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 29, 2019, 02:20:50 PM »

I think winning any competition in football is generally difficult. I understand why you might think that SSFL and the like don't prepare the same, but are we going to get someone who has won a top-tier professional league? It'd be interesting to find out exactly what competitions any of our NT managers have ever won?

Vranes seems to be competent at whatever he puts his hand to in T&T football - he did well at Central in his many roles and did well for the NT.

I don't think Vranes is the right man for the job. I don't know which team he coaches. Maybe QPCC?  I just don't know. I saw him with the TT team in Richmond. They were preparing for that same Shell cup in JA. The played  the US B team and loss 1-0. They had a small reception for them and he spoke very briefly. He appeared to be a soft spoken guy. Did not know how to asses him. But then a week later, to my surprise I read that they won the cup. But it appears like one minutes he is JW good books, next min. he is out. I think he coached St. Vincent, and probably Antigua and Grenada. I am not really sure. Then he dabble with almost every pro-league club in TT. You all may not like it but he has plenty local and regional bona fides. he has been in the Caribbean for more than 20 years.

But, WW and team will have to make the assessment on who the next coach will be. We don't know the intricacies of DL contract with TTFA/Concacaf/FIFA. In my honest opinion I don't see any local coach that I will feel comfortable with at this time. Angus might be the only one. He is young and vibrant. He probably has  a "football head". But that head is coaching schools boys. Coach "independent" adults is a different thing.

If TTFA decide to go foreign, what will they want him to do? Just coach the team for the next GC, and/or also do some serious developmental with the U-17s, U-19s, U-23s. Will they want him to do technical duties or hire a separate coach. Most of the coaches I see allyuh mentioned will only be in TT for carnival or a weekend in Tobago. We have gotten some good foreign coaches before. And we have been burnt by some foreign coaches. I really don't know of any foreign I can confidently say, "pick he". So that is my 2 cent.

I was at a game in Richmond VA were TT loss 1-0 to a U S A Olympic team back 1995 while I was disappointed I realize that Z Vanes uses friendly's to look at players I don't see Z Vanes as a long term solution for TT football but short term he can help. TT does not have the money to pay a big name coach that people here pushing for so they have to get a coach that is willing to work with them .

DL should not be allowed to coach another game its a waist of time he is doing the same thing SH did TT needs a coach who is going to give players like J Garcia M W Ling M P Angeron K Julien C Benny  etc international games so they can develop there games so they can get a chance to go and play in much better leagues or else they go end up playing in leagues like I league USL and CPL Z Vanes is the 1 that gave players like A Dwarika E Wise S John and A Elcock there break so he will give these young guys there break they need to get to the 2022 playoff game so they can be ready for 2026.

You’re a fool, Hart and DL are not in the same category, Hart took us to one of our best rankings in history and was sabotaged... DL was not sabotaged, he went along with the sabotage

Stop talking that nonsense on here like people dumb enough to go along with those lies

SH sabotaged he own self when he came down to TT and try to play that same old backward English football that they play in Canada.

Your daddy the dictator sabotaged him and gave that sell out DL a lot of support in the beginning... what football you think you’re boy DL was playing?

Hart was playing a mix of styles tbh as Beenie pointed out, he was ultra ambitious with his style of play

Gtfoh with that nonsense you’re talking

Both DL and SH does play English football DL look better when he had them English men on his technical staff but once they left it was all downhill both of them is just not good enough to coach at the international level.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 29, 2019, 12:59:43 PM »

I think winning any competition in football is generally difficult. I understand why you might think that SSFL and the like don't prepare the same, but are we going to get someone who has won a top-tier professional league? It'd be interesting to find out exactly what competitions any of our NT managers have ever won?

Vranes seems to be competent at whatever he puts his hand to in T&T football - he did well at Central in his many roles and did well for the NT.

I don't think Vranes is the right man for the job. I don't know which team he coaches. Maybe QPCC?  I just don't know. I saw him with the TT team in Richmond. They were preparing for that same Shell cup in JA. The played  the US B team and loss 1-0. They had a small reception for them and he spoke very briefly. He appeared to be a soft spoken guy. Did not know how to asses him. But then a week later, to my surprise I read that they won the cup. But it appears like one minutes he is JW good books, next min. he is out. I think he coached St. Vincent, and probably Antigua and Grenada. I am not really sure. Then he dabble with almost every pro-league club in TT. You all may not like it but he has plenty local and regional bona fides. he has been in the Caribbean for more than 20 years.

But, WW and team will have to make the assessment on who the next coach will be. We don't know the intricacies of DL contract with TTFA/Concacaf/FIFA. In my honest opinion I don't see any local coach that I will feel comfortable with at this time. Angus might be the only one. He is young and vibrant. He probably has  a "football head". But that head is coaching schools boys. Coach "independent" adults is a different thing.

If TTFA decide to go foreign, what will they want him to do? Just coach the team for the next GC, and/or also do some serious developmental with the U-17s, U-19s, U-23s. Will they want him to do technical duties or hire a separate coach. Most of the coaches I see allyuh mentioned will only be in TT for carnival or a weekend in Tobago. We have gotten some good foreign coaches before. And we have been burnt by some foreign coaches. I really don't know of any foreign I can confidently say, "pick he". So that is my 2 cent.

I was at a game in Richmond VA were TT loss 1-0 to a U S A Olympic team back 1995 while I was disappointed I realize that Z Vanes uses friendly's to look at players I don't see Z Vanes as a long term solution for TT football but short term he can help. TT does not have the money to pay a big name coach that people here pushing for so they have to get a coach that is willing to work with them .

DL should not be allowed to coach another game its a waist of time he is doing the same thing SH did TT needs a coach who is going to give players like J Garcia M W Ling M P Angeron K Julien C Benny  etc international games so they can develop there games so they can get a chance to go and play in much better leagues or else they go end up playing in leagues like I league USL and CPL Z Vanes is the 1 that gave players like A Dwarika E Wise S John and A Elcock there break so he will give these young guys there break they need to get to the 2022 playoff game so they can be ready for 2026.

You’re a fool, Hart and DL are not in the same category, Hart took us to one of our best rankings in history and was sabotaged... DL was not sabotaged, he went along with the sabotage

Stop talking that nonsense on here like people dumb enough to go along with those lies

SH sabotaged he own self when he came down to TT and try to play that same old backward English football that they play in Canada.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 29, 2019, 12:55:19 PM »

DL should not be allowed to coach another game its a waist of time he is doing the same thing SH did TT needs a coach who is going to give players like J Garcia M W Ling M P Angeron K Julien C Benny  etc international games so they can develop there games so they can get a chance to go and play in much better leagues or else they go end up playing in leagues like I league USL and CPL Z Vanes is the 1 that gave players like A Dwarika E Wise S John and A Elcock there break so he will give these young guys there break they need to get to the 2022 playoff game so they can be ready for 2026.

My 2 cents........no coach is going to give young, inexperienced players free reign to "develop" in international football.....UNLESS......that's coach job security is guaranteed.  In other words......results don't matter.

If results don't matter......then a coach is MORE INCLINED to give inexperienced players the opportunity to develop on the field of play.  On the job learning.   

But even if results don't matter.... a coach is always going to be mindful of their coaching record....and THAT is about WINS and LOSSES.   If they ever hope to have another coaching gig at that level.....WINS and LOSSES matter.....no matter how much you trying to develop.

A mens National senior team is NOT the place to do wholescale development.   If that's the plan....then there really is no plan.

You are a perfect example of why TT football has been in decline for the past several years because people think like you Trinidadian coach's are scared to play the youths because they worry about results a foreign coach gives the youths a chance because they know that youth can develop into a much better player than somebody already approaching there mid 20s will ever be that's still better than no plan.

TTFA has to be brave and hire a Foreign coach that will save TT football and give the youths a chance instead of hiring a bunch of COWARDS.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 29, 2019, 09:27:00 AM »

I think winning any competition in football is generally difficult. I understand why you might think that SSFL and the like don't prepare the same, but are we going to get someone who has won a top-tier professional league? It'd be interesting to find out exactly what competitions any of our NT managers have ever won?

Vranes seems to be competent at whatever he puts his hand to in T&T football - he did well at Central in his many roles and did well for the NT.

I don't think Vranes is the right man for the job. I don't know which team he coaches. Maybe QPCC?  I just don't know. I saw him with the TT team in Richmond. They were preparing for that same Shell cup in JA. The played  the US B team and loss 1-0. They had a small reception for them and he spoke very briefly. He appeared to be a soft spoken guy. Did not know how to asses him. But then a week later, to my surprise I read that they won the cup. But it appears like one minutes he is JW good books, next min. he is out. I think he coached St. Vincent, and probably Antigua and Grenada. I am not really sure. Then he dabble with almost every pro-league club in TT. You all may not like it but he has plenty local and regional bona fides. he has been in the Caribbean for more than 20 years.

But, WW and team will have to make the assessment on who the next coach will be. We don't know the intricacies of DL contract with TTFA/Concacaf/FIFA. In my honest opinion I don't see any local coach that I will feel comfortable with at this time. Angus might be the only one. He is young and vibrant. He probably has  a "football head". But that head is coaching schools boys. Coach "independent" adults is a different thing.

If TTFA decide to go foreign, what will they want him to do? Just coach the team for the next GC, and/or also do some serious developmental with the U-17s, U-19s, U-23s. Will they want him to do technical duties or hire a separate coach. Most of the coaches I see allyuh mentioned will only be in TT for carnival or a weekend in Tobago. We have gotten some good foreign coaches before. And we have been burnt by some foreign coaches. I really don't know of any foreign I can confidently say, "pick he". So that is my 2 cent.

I was at a game in Richmond VA were TT loss 1-0 to a U S A Olympic team back 1995 while I was disappointed I realize that Z Vanes uses friendly's to look at players I don't see Z Vanes as a long term solution for TT football but short term he can help. TT does not have the money to pay a big name coach that people here pushing for so they have to get a coach that is willing to work with them .

DL should not be allowed to coach another game its a waist of time he is doing the same thing SH did TT needs a coach who is going to give players like J Garcia M W Ling M P Angeron K Julien C Benny  etc international games so they can develop there games so they can get a chance to go and play in much better leagues or else they go end up playing in leagues like I league USL and CPL Z Vanes is the 1 that gave players like A Dwarika E Wise S John and A Elcock there break so he will give these young guys there break they need to get to the 2022 playoff game so they can be ready for 2026.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 28, 2019, 11:37:36 PM »

It is a pity we did not have a U-23 team to participate in the Olympic qualifications for Tokyo 2020.

TT should put in to host the Olympic qualifiers in the end of May early June just make it 12 teams instead of 8 there is a lot of talent on this team this  would be a nice way to open the home of football and they should let Z Vanes coach the team that way the team would be successful.

Is Vranes still around? maybe that is something we should put forward to Wallace.

you have time to waste with this troll? this jack in the box actually believes that zoran vranes is a better coach than leo benhakker, can you imagine making a dotish statement like dat and still be taken seriously? immediately after that dunce statement i would have ignored him the same way i would a fat ugly witch.

 zoran vranes never won a tea cup in his life yet he has more credit than don leo a champions league and an iridivise league winner in this mad man’s eyes, mean while vranes never coached in any league worth mentioning but he’s the best man for the job. boy oh boy some trinis are silly.

I'm not saying that Z Vanes is a better coach than Leo Beenhakker but what I'm saying is Z Vanes is more suited for TT football because eastern European country's play with a #10 that's why Z Vanes does not try to stifle our best player but coach's like L Beenhakker always try to put our best player in shackles TT has to hire a coach that will let TT play there football not a coach that is going to put our best player in shackles.

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Football / Re: First T&T player to play in Argentina?

« on: November 28, 2019, 10:32:39 AM »

There is nothing wrong with trying but 1 must be realistic the game has change the days for players from SSFL getting a pro contract is gone since the 90's more country's around the world is starting professional leagues thus starting football academy's for young kids this has made the SSFL obsolete while these kids have been preparing to be a professional footballer for several years kids in TT have been playing gallery football in the SSFL that's why players like Levi Garcia couldn't cut in Holland.

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Football / Re: First T&T player to play in Argentina?

« on: November 28, 2019, 04:37:05 AM »

Its going to be hard for a player who was playing SSFL to make in the Argentinian league maybe a team in the lower division might give him a chance.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 28, 2019, 03:11:14 AM »

It is a pity we did not have a U-23 team to participate in the Olympic qualifications for Tokyo 2020.

TT should put in to host the Olympic qualifiers in the end of May early June just make it 12 teams instead of 8 there is a lot of talent on this team this  would be a nice way to open the home of football and they should let Z Vanes coach the team that way the team would be successful.

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Football / Re: The Dictator has bid adieu, who will be our coach and what’s the shortlist?

« on: November 28, 2019, 02:58:11 AM »

Dennis Lawrence isn't exactly a "local coach"

Certainly not any more "local" than SH was

ALL coaches have their preferences....bias some might say.

De same Beenie kept Latas on the bench until the very last game when we were already out in the world cup

Ranjitsingh didn't play under SH either.  Different circumstances I know....but still the fact remains.

Beenhakker and Hart were regarded as successful coaches. If you achieve success, you are given leeway to bench and play favourites.

But if you are approaching 'worst coach ever' status at breakneck speed the way Lawrence is/has then you have will have a hell of a time justifying inclusions/exclusions/strategy.

Success is in the eyes of the beholder people say Beenhakker was a successful coach because he got TT to the WC through the back door with the 4th spot but they overlook the fact that if R Latapy had not come out of retirement Beenakker would have failed just like the other coach's fail when they coach TT it was more luck than success with Beenhakker people say S Hart was a successful coach because he got to the quarterfinal rounds in the Gold Cup 2 times but they overlook the fact that the GC is a dress rehearsal for the WC if you can't get your team to the semifinal rounds you have failed.

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Football / Re: William Wallace Thread

« on: November 27, 2019, 11:06:31 AM »

If people wanted change they would have voted for Richard Ferguson not the same old guys who was there before people in TT like to much friend thing.

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Football / Re: William Wallace Thread

« on: November 27, 2019, 10:37:29 AM »

William Wallace Keith Look Loy and Raymond Tim Kee around the corner posing all yuh  though make row David John Williams gone and Jack Warner take over now 

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Football / Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)

« on: November 20, 2019, 12:11:50 PM »

I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.

Coaching professional players does not make a amateur coach a professional and the end of the day he still a amateur.

You don't understand (either out of willful ignorance or incidental ignorance) what renders a coach a professional coach.

If you think S Hart is a professional coach you don't understand either.

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Football / Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)

« on: November 20, 2019, 10:52:32 AM »

I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.

Coaching professional players does not make a amateur coach a professional and the end of the day he still a amateur.

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Football / Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)

« on: November 20, 2019, 08:43:25 AM »

TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.

no offense, but no bloody thank you. you must be drinking paint to think that Maturana and vranes is better than Steven hart, and I don’t want another session with Steve hart. we all saw what Maturana gives and we also saw what vranes has to offer and it wasn’t anything spectacular, in fact those guys can’t even land a job elsewhere but you want to stick us with recycled coaches. no way.

if the next federation wants to succeed they need a clean slate with new faces all the way around, no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period, they are all bloody big ass blights and meddlers, and we don’t want no recyclables.

I would take F Maturana and Z Vanes over S Hart any day anytime these guys have proven that they can coach at the international level  S Hart has not.

true to form. You just plain talking tata..Don't choke on yuh haterade
Neither of those 2 have more International coaching experience than Hart, Though, if I be he, I wouldn't touch that coaching position with a email farless a pole. Besides, I doubt Lawrence going anywhere fast.

Yuh ever wonder why Maturana terms are so short ? Is Vranes even coaching now ?
Given the financial situation and a freezing over of hell, i would give Angus Eve or Derek King a shot. And even they might refuse, liking they lives without the stress right now.

Hart
Teams managed
1988–1989   King of Donair (player-coach)
1993–2001   King of Donair
1997–1999   Saint Mary's Huskies women
1997   Canada U23 (assistant)
2000–2001   Canada U17 (assistant)
2002   Canada U20
2002–2007   Canada U17
2005–2006   Canada (assistant)
2006–2007   Canada (interim)
2007–2008   Canada (assistant)
2009   Canada (interim)
2009–2012   Canada
2013–2016   Trinidad and Tobago
2018–   HFX Wanderers

Maturana
Teams managed
1986   Once Caldas
1987–1990   Atlético Nacional
1987–1990   Colombia
1990–1991   Real Valladolid
1992–1993   América de Cali
1993–1994   Colombia
1994   Atlético Madrid
1995–1997   Ecuador
1998   Millonarios
1999   Costa Rica
1999–2000   Peru
2001   Colombia
2002   Al-Hilal
2002–2003   Colombia
2004   Colón de Santa Fe
2007   Gimnasia La Plata
2008–2009   Trinidad and Tobago
2011–2012   Al Nassr
2017   Once Caldas
2019–   Royal Pari

Vranes

993–1994   Rudar Pljevlja
1994–1996   Trinidad & Tobago
1998–2000   Antigua and Barbuda
2001–2002   Joe Public F.C.
2003   Trinidad & Tobago
2003–2004   Rudar Pljevlja
2004–2007   St. Vincent & the Grenadines
2009–2010   Trinidad & Tobago (assistant-coach)
2009–2010   Trinidad & Tobago U20
2014–2015   Central FC

I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

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Football / Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)

« on: November 20, 2019, 12:25:48 AM »

TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.

no offense, but no bloody thank you. you must be drinking paint to think that Maturana and vranes is better than Steven hart, and I don’t want another session with Steve hart. we all saw what Maturana gives and we also saw what vranes has to offer and it wasn’t anything spectacular, in fact those guys can’t even land a job elsewhere but you want to stick us with recycled coaches. no way.

if the next federation wants to succeed they need a clean slate with new faces all the way around, no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period, they are all bloody big ass blights and meddlers, and we don’t want no recyclables.

I would take F Maturana and Z Vanes over S Hart any day anytime these guys have proven that they can coach at the international level  S Hart has not.

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Football / Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)

« on: November 19, 2019, 02:26:39 PM »

TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.