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Football / Re: David John Williams Thread.
« on: February 18, 2019, 01:00:02 PM »
DJW calls TTFA board meeting; Lawrence, U-17 team and general secretary head talking points.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).


The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) board will hold its first meeting of 2019 on Wednesday 20 February and it could set the tone for controversial president David John-Williams’ final nine months in office.

John-Williams has held on to his own job—after a motion to remove him by FC Santa Rosa was thwarted at the AGM, two months ago—but now the posts of Men’s National Senior Team head coach Dennis Lawrence and general secretary Justin Latapy-George are at stake.

Lawrence’s two year contract expired on 31 January while Latapy-George’s term ended last November. Thus far, John-Williams has suggested he wants to keep his head coach but ditch his general secretary with former Trinidad and Tobago Super League (TTSL) administrator Camara David already lined up for the latter office.

Last week, Wired868 revealed exclusively that David’s name was already placed on the FIFA website as the TTFA’s general secretary, although it was since removed.

Remarkably, the TTFA president is trying to get the board to renew Lawrence’s contract without even revealing what terms were offered to the the former 2006 World Cup star in the first place.

There is neither a TTFA technical committee nor a technical director in place to help evaluate Lawrence’s stint either, as the former body is one of 15 standing committees left non-functional under the current administration while Anton Corneal is yet to return to work.

Corneal, who returned to the post in August 2017, walked off the job in January after going unpaid for six months. Since then, John-Williams has authorised three months’ payment for the technical director but Corneal continues to insist that the TTFA meet all of its financial obligations to him.

Lawrence has had a mixed spell at the helm of the Soca Warriors. Trinidad and Tobago lost six of their eight matches in the Concacaf Hex under the six foot seven coach while the team slipped from 80th to 93rd in the FIFA rankings.

Overall, the Warriors won five, drew four and lost 11 matches under Lawrence with 18 goals scored and 27 conceded. However, he can point to a seismic 2-1 home win over the United States—which eliminated the North American giants from the Russia 2018 World Cup—as well as an encouraging 2-0 friendly win over the United Arab Emirates last September.

At home, Trinidad and Tobago have three wins (USA, Panama and Barbados), two draws (Grenada and Guyana) and four defeats (Mexico, Jamaica, Honduras and Panama) with 10 goals scored and as many conceded.

The board must decide whether that record is good enough to keep Lawrence at the helm for the 2019 Concacaf Gold Cup, or consider a new head coach.

In the case of the general secretary portfolio, a constitutional crisis appears to be looming with the president insisting that the board is obliged to appoint whoever he selects for the job, although Elton Prescott SC and Trinidad and Tobago Football Referees Association (TTFRA) vice-president Osmond Downer—both framers of the TTFA constitution—disagreed.

Another pressing issue is the state of the Men’s National Under-17 Team, which remains inactive with less than two months to go before the start of their Peru 2019 World Youth Cup qualifying series.

John-Williams has neither confirmed nor denied rumours that the Under-17 boys can be sacrificed so that the Under-15 Team—led by W Connection head coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier—can take their place for ‘tournament experience’.

Although John-Williams is yet to reveal an agenda for next week’s meeting, board member and TTSL Keith Look Loy requested that all of the aforementioned topics be put on the table along the status of the TTFA’s Audit and Compliance Committee and Home of Football and Income Generation Project.

Wednesday’s conclave, which comes a month after it was constitutionally due, will also see a debut appearance by Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) president Selby Browne, whose body was awarded a board position at the AGM.

Bizarrely, the TTFA’s general membership—and, in particular, the Pro League clubs—voted against a seat at the board for the Secondary Schools Football League (SSFL), although the SSFL easily has the most teams, biggest attendances and longest history of all the TTFA’s members and proved to be the only body capable of securing a million dollar sponsorship deal.

Browne’s inclusion brings the TTFA board up to 13 members. They are:

John-Williams (president), Ewing Davis (vice-president), Richard Quan Chan (Southern FA), Anthony Moore (Tobago FA), Joseph Taylor (TTFRA), Sharon Warrick (Women’s League Football), Julia Baptiste (TT Pro League), Collin Partap (Central Football Association), Look Loy (TTSL), Bandele Kamau (Eastern FA), Raeshawn Mars (Northern FA), Sherwyn Dyer (Eastern Counties Football Union) and Browne (VFFOTT).

John-Williams has always enjoyed the unstinting support of Davis, Quan Chan, Moore and Dyer, which accounts for five votes. But he has generally not had his way with Look Loy, Partap, Taylor, Warrick and any of the NFA’s representatives.

If those 10 members remain consistent, the swing votes would come from Baptiste, Kamau and Browne. Should John-Williams convince two from that trio to see things his way, he will get the coach and general secretary he wants—even, possibly, without revealing their terms of references.

Despite the obvious decline of Trinidad and Tobago’s football, both on and off the field, there is no questioning the strength of John-Williams’ canvassing, as he continues to emerge largely unscathed from meetings with the board and general membership.

Next Wednesday evening at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva might be one of his more challenging meetings yet with high stakes again for the local game.


Editor’s Note: The TTFA board meeting was moved from Tuesday 19 February to Wednesday 20 February. That change was reflected in our story from 12 February.


They need to stop DJW from giving DL another contract I understand a record like that if DL was using a lot of young players giving them games to get experience but using the same old players from last campaign and getting results like that is unacceptable.

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Football / Re: Connectionís Matthew Woo Ling off to European stints.
« on: January 02, 2019, 09:16:39 PM »
M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.

That is your criteria for national selection?
M W Ling and J Garcia are much technically better players than the current players on the national team.

And how is that being measured, and in what environment?
The Malta league is a much better league than the pro league.
I find that incredibly doubtful.
I have watched video's of both league's and the Malta premier league is much faster than the pro league plus the coach's are better too.

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Football / Re: Connectionís Matthew Woo Ling off to European stints.
« on: January 01, 2019, 07:06:16 PM »
M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.

That is your criteria for national selection?
M W Ling and J Garcia are much technically better players than the current players on the national team.

And how is that being measured, and in what environment?
The Malta league is a much better league than the pro league.

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Football / Re: Connectionís Matthew Woo Ling off to European stints.
« on: January 01, 2019, 03:29:23 PM »
M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.

That is your criteria for national selection?
M W Ling and J Garcia are much technically better players than the current players on the national team.

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Football / Re: Connectionís Matthew Woo Ling off to European stints.
« on: December 31, 2018, 11:46:35 PM »
M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: December 09, 2018, 10:19:05 PM »
The reality is the football game has been changed in the 80s the U S A and the central American leagues were all semi pro leagues in the 90s the U S A and Costa Rica  and now the rest of Central American leagues are now fully professional the pro league is just a bunch amateur players and coach's claiming to be professional and now they have been fully exposed TT just cannot compete anymore the TTFF needs a real leader somebody who is going to make some serious changes to TT football the SSFL cannot cut it anymore the pro league and the national team should be focusing on bringing the youths threw.
You must therefore agree this is not under the control of the National team coach, regardless of whoever they ARE.
The National team coach cannot, and should not bring the youths thru, if he have more skilled, more coachable, even if older guys , yet 30 % better. This is National team, not football camp. Sure you can have inviteees for training, but not until they are ready can they be invited, farless played.
BTW: we have many good players on scholarships in US, but not enuff scouts to take a look at all. We have many young foreign born citizens, shouldn't they get a sniff ? You already indicated that SSFL not up to par. So in the meanwhile what is any coach to do. He could only work with who he see, and he can't see many, we just can't afford it. And if those he see, not up to par internationally, by our (the fan) standards should he change them for those that not up to par locally. Just for a Change ?  As a great Calypsonian once sang "Yuh looking for Horn. Penty, Plenty Horn, boy"   ;D
You talking some real nonsense bro nobody does that anymore if those players who got scholarships in the U S A were that good professional clubs in the U S A would have sign them how many players that got scholarships in the U S A was signed by the MLS in the last decade or even the USL getting scholarships to schools in the USA does not prepare you for professional football that's just a higher level of amateur football and like I said before don't waste your time on a bunch of amateurs .
Getting players from the UK is okay because they are already professionals but players playing in the amateur league in the USA is a waste of time.
Here is a bit of reality for you this is why DL is failing with the players he is picking no club in the MLS is going to sign a player 25 years old and still playing in the pro league none of the top 25 leagues in Europe will sign a player 22 years old still playing in the pro league those players DL picking have limited potential those players will only get sign by teams in the USL or the lower level leagues in Asia what TT needs is somebody with vision that understands the world today not the same old amateur thinking that got TT no were somebody that knows a club in Europe will take a 19 year old player instead of a 23 year old player even if the 23 year old is just a little better now but the key is the future not the now.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: December 02, 2018, 07:20:55 AM »
The reality is the football game has been changed in the 80s the U S A and the central American leagues were all semi pro leagues in the 90s the U S A and Costa Rica  and now the rest of Central American leagues are now fully professional the pro league is just a bunch amateur players and coach's claiming to be professional and now they have been fully exposed TT just cannot compete anymore the TTFF needs a real leader somebody who is going to make some serious changes to TT football the SSFL cannot cut it anymore the pro league and the national team should be focusing on bringing the youths threw.

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Football / Re: Jerren Nixon Jr. Thread
« on: December 02, 2018, 06:42:22 AM »
I don't understand why somebody who has a son with a European passport move to the  U S A if he wants his son to develop into a football player.

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Football / Re: Sol Campbell Thread
« on: December 02, 2018, 06:34:59 AM »
Trinidadians have been living in a false sense of reality they think everything in life is suppose to be easy the black Americans have been dealing with obstacles all there lives that they had to overcome and they succeeded Trinidadians always chose the easy way out.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 25, 2018, 01:30:03 AM »
So, ffisback. Tell us what you will do right to change the situation. Keeping in mind that DJW is the president of ttfa and has the backings of some the zone and also has the fifa president on his side, for now. Why donít you form a group to run for the elections. Ah mean seriously. You donít have to run for the post. But get some people who you feel can do the job.
The TTFF has been improperly run for over 50 years it could probably take several years to straighten out all there problems while I will love to go back home to help my team I have to weigh the pro's and con's I left Trinidad as a teenager I have know contacts with people who are inside the football fraternity I will be going up against the pre colonial system that the British establish and the post colonial system that E Williams and the PNM regime establish so they could stay in power just like how the people on this site want to cut throat if I go down there my life will be in danger.
The 1st thing I would do is if I was in charge would be to take J Warner to court to get the TTFF money it could take several years but its worth it the 2nd would be to look for a coach that will give TT a better chance of going to the WC and  Olympics and I will put in to host the Olympic qualifiers in 2020 that's the 1st things I would take care off.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 25, 2018, 12:31:49 AM »
all this talk of youth not getting a chance and Latapy just basically said that SSFL don't develop footballing intelligence in our youth........thing is our most notable young prospect not too long ago IMHO displayed this very said lack of football intelligence........I once hypothesized a while ago that Latapy's struggle as a coach has much to do with his seeming inability to "transfer that intelligence" as a coach......on his feet Latapy made the players around him somehow "magically" better will never forget dat 20mins against Paraguay in 06 where ah team was disjointed for 70min was suddenly playing all over Paraguay....man suddenly knowing where to be for the flick pass...dropping to pull players and create space...all while forming these fluid triangles....

I watch SSFL highlights every now and then and while you see nice individual football you don't see much good TEAM football.....all dat fluff jus to say that all these INDIVIDUALS ffsback going on about generally leave much to be desired when their INDIVIDUAL talents get nullified, and often very easily, by better "educated" players on better "educated" TEAMS.....d whole is always greater than d sum of d parts....something our football culture often ignores.....yuh ever notice dat we have ah chronic habit of defending with half ah team :-\ watch d last american goal, how long it take to score and how many attacking players reach back to support....................


I agree that the SSFL is not good enough anymore but my problem is with the fact that DL is not giving these younger players a chance to play on the senior team that's the only way they will improve is if they play against better players.
DJW has a hand in player selections!!! DL I'm sure given the chance to choose freely, wouldve given younger players a chance. Lawd I cant wait for DJW to be gone and we get a proper president who will show full support to the TTFA as a whole, THEN will you be proven wrong. Allyuh...remember this thread when things change.
Lord father put a hand on these people!!
Yea you in particular, you're blind.
You sure is not you that blind.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 23, 2018, 08:27:21 PM »
all this talk of youth not getting a chance and Latapy just basically said that SSFL don't develop footballing intelligence in our youth........thing is our most notable young prospect not too long ago IMHO displayed this very said lack of football intelligence........I once hypothesized a while ago that Latapy's struggle as a coach has much to do with his seeming inability to "transfer that intelligence" as a coach......on his feet Latapy made the players around him somehow "magically" better will never forget dat 20mins against Paraguay in 06 where ah team was disjointed for 70min was suddenly playing all over Paraguay....man suddenly knowing where to be for the flick pass...dropping to pull players and create space...all while forming these fluid triangles....

I watch SSFL highlights every now and then and while you see nice individual football you don't see much good TEAM football.....all dat fluff jus to say that all these INDIVIDUALS ffsback going on about generally leave much to be desired when their INDIVIDUAL talents get nullified, and often very easily, by better "educated" players on better "educated" TEAMS.....d whole is always greater than d sum of d parts....something our football culture often ignores.....yuh ever notice dat we have ah chronic habit of defending with half ah team :-\ watch d last american goal, how long it take to score and how many attacking players reach back to support....................


I agree that the SSFL is not good enough anymore but my problem is with the fact that DL is not giving these younger players a chance to play on the senior team that's the only way they will improve is if they play against better players.
DJW has a hand in player selections!!! DL I'm sure given the chance to choose freely, wouldve given younger players a chance. Lawd I cant wait for DJW to be gone and we get a proper president who will show full support to the TTFA as a whole, THEN will you be proven wrong. Allyuh...remember this thread when things change.
Lord father put a hand on these people!!

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 23, 2018, 08:24:02 PM »
National team is not OJT. And playing against better players once every 2 months not gonna improve nobody. Improvement comes with consistency comes with practice comes with systems of development.
So we might as well stop playing friendly's then.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 22, 2018, 10:20:28 PM »
all this talk of youth not getting a chance and Latapy just basically said that SSFL don't develop footballing intelligence in our youth........thing is our most notable young prospect not too long ago IMHO displayed this very said lack of football intelligence........I once hypothesized a while ago that Latapy's struggle as a coach has much to do with his seeming inability to "transfer that intelligence" as a coach......on his feet Latapy made the players around him somehow "magically" better will never forget dat 20mins against Paraguay in 06 where ah team was disjointed for 70min was suddenly playing all over Paraguay....man suddenly knowing where to be for the flick pass...dropping to pull players and create space...all while forming these fluid triangles....

I watch SSFL highlights every now and then and while you see nice individual football you don't see much good TEAM football.....all dat fluff jus to say that all these INDIVIDUALS ffsback going on about generally leave much to be desired when their INDIVIDUAL talents get nullified, and often very easily, by better "educated" players on better "educated" TEAMS.....d whole is always greater than d sum of d parts....something our football culture often ignores.....yuh ever notice dat we have ah chronic habit of defending with half ah team :-\ watch d last american goal, how long it take to score and how many attacking players reach back to support....................


I agree that the SSFL is not good enough anymore but my problem is with the fact that DL is not giving these younger players a chance to play on the senior team that's the only way they will improve is if they play against better players.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 22, 2018, 10:11:48 PM »
Placing on the job training in context:

Quote
Last season Gerrard coached Liverpoolís Under-18s. ďI learned a lot preparing and delivering sessions, speaking to players one-to-one, using different formations. It gave me a yearís driving lessons. I wasnít expecting the Rangers offer. Do I think it came a bit early? Probably. But when itís a club as big as Rangers you only get one opportunity to manage them. So I had to reflect. Where am I strong? Who do I need to help me in areas where I lack experience? The staff Rangers put around me have been absolutely brilliant.Ē

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/15/steven-gerrard-rangers-liverpool-jurgen-klopp-chelsea-interview

Everything is not necessarily about the First Team experience. Every coach has had a first coaching job and a lack of experience. More important than experience is a personalized understanding of how to effectively convey/teach the game to players.
Everybody is not a quick learner S Gerrard may only needs 1 stint with the u18 team D Lawrence probably need several stints.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 22, 2018, 10:02:08 PM »
@ffisback

You seem to be ignoring that the TTFA solicited applications worldwide. Do you recall, or are you aware of, the number of persons who applied for the position? From that actual pool of applicants, we have definition of those who were concretely interested in the job. What's your plan? To present the job to someone who is not interested in the position?

Did Vranes apply for the position?

Where is this supposed "better coach for that money" among the applicants?
I read some were that Vanes and Maturana put in for the position and if what you telling me is true that people from all over the world put in for the position and that is who they chose everybody on that board should be fired at once.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 22, 2018, 09:26:21 AM »
'being successful at football' is a relative term. it depends on current status(position), setting and achieving of goals, level of support administratively, financially, and publicly, development, selection, product, produce (some say, chemistry), test, adjustment and pure luck, and current state of the Nation . Only God can guarantee any success, and even that deity mysterious works we still trying to figure out. I think the state of the world today, God to busy to manage we team - even if he might be Trini.
 However, let's look at general resumes. Note we could only look at resumes we can presently afford, don't know why you keep bringing up Hart, he was no God, and if he was, he's gone, still being owed (fired, no less) and probably not affordable at present (i will include his just for reference).
Sometimes I wonder if that is why TT where we is, the God came and TTians say we doh need he..We have we own.

So given the present state of the TTFA(or TT) economy, and our product as is, who you hiring ?
This revolving door thing has to stop, we not no professional club, even if it might be a decent model to follow. Anyway, with this I stop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Lawrence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Vrane%C5%A1


and only because you seem determined to see a Contro post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hart_(soccer)
I agree with a lot what you said and I know the TTFF is broke but I'm sure that the money that they paying  DL they could get a better coach for that money of the coach's you mention DL has no 1st team coaching experience player development is not the same as building a team. SH has a lot of coaching experience but flopped when he had Canada and TT his outdated English football style was just to predictable. ZV built St Vincent most successful team he built Antigua most successful team he built TT most successful u20 team he built TT most successful Olympic team had G Cummings not sabotage the team in 1996 he probably would have been successful there to so I will put my money on Vanes anytime over does guys.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 22, 2018, 08:09:41 AM »
Speaking of ignorance you have failed to make a case as to why DL who has never coached any were before is going to turn TT into a successful team or if SH was so successful how come he could not win a little tournament like the Caribbean cup.

He was an assistant at Everton for a number of years. wasn't he? He has a coaching barge. As you may know, it is very difficult for native born Blacks to get a foot in English football coaching society. I was surprised he got an assistant job in England. The only other option for him was to come back home. Where did Sol Campbell coached before he came to TT for a brief stint.
My problem with former players like R Latapy and D Lawrence is that instead of trying to get coaching jobs in the lower divisions to get experience they always take the easy way out and run back to TT there is a lot of coaching jobs in the lower levels in Europe but them men doh ha the belly to stick it out they want to run back home and get a easy check and play big coach and turn the NT into some reserve team training exercise TT is a top 10 team in the concacaf we are used to challengeing the big boys we don't need no reserve team coach we need a real coach.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 09:27:34 PM »
What if I say. Hart had a similar record to BeenHakker. What if I say, from 2013 to 2015, during Hart's tenure (2013-2016), BeenHakker was the football director and adviser. What if I say a coach with the best record was a local coach. Would you take the blue pill or the red pill ?

Either way. Hart, BeenHakker, Maturana, ain't coming back..no foreigner worth there salt would take the job - that includes many coaches on this shit-talk board right here..Vranes has not built any strong resume ( a la a Fenwick) by being a multiple snr winner in the local leagues. I suggest, be glad we have Dennis Lawrence who has some measure of experience, local and international, as both a player and a coach, and we should try keeping him as long as possible as he works to get things right. On the job training yes, but with our Team, administration and supporters, it will always and forever be a work in progress. We never really consistently win anything. Always if, coulda and woulda.
Try to keep the somebody on a long term, so they can develop and build something instead of breaking down and starting over everytime a cold breeze blow, or a heat wave pass. It's normal weather for our region, especially these days.
What if I say I had the winning lotto numbers I would be rich today now back to realty SH has done nothing to prove that he is a successful coach he could not even win the Caribbean cup something ZV who you don't much of has won what made SH such a successful coach to the people of TT is something i cannot comprehend.
What made Beenhakker successful was R Latapy comming out of retirement if R Latapy never came back Beenhakker would have been another failed foreign coach I would never hire him to take TT football into the future and i believe Vanes and Maturana is more suitable for the job and will give TT a chance again.

And after nearly 2 years its plane to see that DL does not have what it takes to take this team into the futeur .

if you had the winning lotto numbers you might be rich, but you would still be ignorant of the fact that the one reality is Dennis Lawrence is the current coach and unless he quits or is fired - I doubt because of your feelings or anybody feelings or your new found money - there is no other candidate being considered. Totally irregardless of how you feel about Stephen Hart. Maybe you can hire Maturana with your dream money.
Point taken Cocorite.
Speaking of ignorance you have failed to make a case as to why DL who has never coached any were before is going to turn TT into a successful team or if SH was so successful how come he could not win a little tournament like the Caribbean cup.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 04:14:54 PM »
What if I say. Hart had a similar record to BeenHakker. What if I say, from 2013 to 2015, during Hart's tenure (2013-2016), BeenHakker was the football director and adviser. What if I say a coach with the best record was a local coach. Would you take the blue pill or the red pill ?

Either way. Hart, BeenHakker, Maturana, ain't coming back..no foreigner worth there salt would take the job - that includes many coaches on this shit-talk board right here..Vranes has not built any strong resume ( a la a Fenwick) by being a multiple snr winner in the local leagues. I suggest, be glad we have Dennis Lawrence who has some measure of experience, local and international, as both a player and a coach, and we should try keeping him as long as possible as he works to get things right. On the job training yes, but with our Team, administration and supporters, it will always and forever be a work in progress. We never really consistently win anything. Always if, coulda and woulda.
Try to keep the somebody on a long term, so they can develop and build something instead of breaking down and starting over everytime a cold breeze blow, or a heat wave pass. It's normal weather for our region, especially these days.
What if I say I had the winning lotto numbers I would be rich today now back to realty SH has done nothing to prove that he is a successful coach he could not even win the Caribbean cup something ZV who you don't much of has won what made SH such a successful coach to the people of TT is something i cannot comprehend.
What made Beenhakker successful was R Latapy comming out of retirement if R Latapy never came back Beenhakker would have been another failed foreign coach I would never hire him to take TT football into the future and i believe Vanes and Maturana is more suitable for the job and will give TT a chance again.

And after nearly 2 years its plane to see that DL does not have what it takes to take this team into the futeur .

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 12:38:49 PM »

Put yourself as the TT coach in this present situation. Do you think you can do any better? Imaging you presenting short term and long term strategies for TT national team. Just think about that.

From the time the world cup qualifiers were done, I would have gone with a team to qualify for the Olympics 2020. Leave Levi Garcia and Joevin Jones to establish themselves professionally. Keep Bateau to help with the younger defenders coming through and maybe Hyland for his experience, and Molino when the next world cup campaign come around.

We really have nobody so great that younger players can't supplant them in preparation for the future.
I agree with you 100% but it seems as if DL has not gotten the message so it is better we get rid of this guy while we ahead of the game.

I agree with that also. TTFA should have two senior teams. The U-23 being the B team. They should have the local U-23 play against Caribbean opposition or any  CA or SA team that will schedule a game with us. TTFA is unable to multitask. The leader has on blinders. The blinders is focusing on the construction of the hotel. DL could only go so far with DJW without him being fired.
That's not DJW job that's the coach's job I remember when G Cummings and Z Vanes had the team they used to bring younger players into the team DL does not do that because he does not know what he is doing that's why he should be fired.
DJW is the one who is telling DL which players he should pick, DJW did it to Hart, and Hart refused which resulted him getting fired.
If S Hart was picking his own team and still getting his but kick he deserved to get fired.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 12:33:56 PM »
I think Z Vanes and F Maturana was good.

Once DL gives a player like N Lewis who is riding pine in the USL playing time he has shown that he does not know what he is doing and he should be fired all the players who name I called should be given playing time.

Wait, so you championing Maturana who gave Hyland among others numerous caps while "unattached" but taking issue with DL capping Lewis?.  How is it not worse to call up players not signed to any club at all than calling up Lewis who is attached to a club and practicing within a structured football environment?
Apples and grapes Hyland was a young 19 year old player who was on the verge of signing a contract in Europe and needed the caps N Lewis is 28 years old no club in Europe will sign a unproven player that age.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 12:26:22 PM »
People in TT continue use this false notion that instead of spending money and resources on a foreign coach they could get the same result if they spend on a local coach that could not be furthest from the truth coach's  like B ST Clair and S Hart got more friendly's and financial support than the foreign coach's and they still got there buts kick.

There is no false notion here. We have had foreign coaches into TT from the 60s to just recently with Sainfeit. Only one has been successful. Beenie Man.  Gally was the only local coach on the brink of taking the national team to the WC. That is another story. But sometimes a foreign coach is good. Sometime a local coach is good. We eh doing anything different from what the US is doing in terms of selecting a coach. They have local local coaches and they have had foreign coaches. What the US has over us is an abundance of resources. Resources that they can have a fulfledged  academy. You don't hear coaches not getting paid and all that non-sense.
There you go again with your false notion people come to America and see how successful they are with all that  money and confuse the 2 and say if TT had all that money we will be successful too  :bs: All that oil money TT had and what they have to show for it "nothing" Jamaica will always outshine TT on the world stage because they are organized and they strive for profection  the U S A have something that TT does not have professionalism the league may not be that good but it is a professional league the coach's may not be that good but he's a professional coach the players may not be that good but they are professional players TT is run by amateurs the players the coach's the administration is all a bunch amateurs giving a TT coach money etc is a waste of time they could only screw it up because they are amateurs look at all the money that was spent on B St Clair and S Hart and look how much licks we got from that G Cummings had a good football philosophy but because he was a amateur he failed.

Breds, you so anti Trini, is a waste of time trying to argue with you. Our priority is to see about the locals first. Players and coaches. That does not mean we  should not include our foreign-born children. We have been doing it in the past.We will continue to do it in the future.  Who do you think contacted Birchall to play for Trini. It was DL. And we have used others since then. Some have rejected us(Bobby Zamora and Bostock). Hooray for Jamaica if they outshine us. I give them their dues. We have lot's in common but we are  two different peas in a pod. We think one way, they think the other. All of us don't think and do things the same. Right now the number ONE priority is to get rid DJW. People at home who could influence the stakeholders in TT football should not wait for election to influence the outcome. They should be doing it now.
While I agree that DJW must go you are missing the big picture changing the president is not going to solve the problem not paying players and coach's is been going on for donkey years not getting teams prepared for tournaments is nothing new the problem is much bigger than DJW nobody is going to spend there money on failing organization that has no accountability .

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 02:28:04 AM »
People in TT continue use this false notion that instead of spending money and resources on a foreign coach they could get the same result if they spend on a local coach that could not be furthest from the truth coach's  like B ST Clair and S Hart got more friendly's and financial support than the foreign coach's and they still got there buts kick.

There is no false notion here. We have had foreign coaches into TT from the 60s to just recently with Sainfeit. Only one has been successful. Beenie Man.  Gally was the only local coach on the brink of taking the national team to the WC. That is another story. But sometimes a foreign coach is good. Sometime a local coach is good. We eh doing anything different from what the US is doing in terms of selecting a coach. They have local local coaches and they have had foreign coaches. What the US has over us is an abundance of resources. Resources that they can have a fulfledged  academy. You don't hear coaches not getting paid and all that non-sense.
There you go again with your false notion people come to America and see how successful they are with all that  money and confuse the 2 and say if TT had all that money we will be successful too  :bs: All that oil money TT had and what they have to show for it "nothing" Jamaica will always outshine TT on the world stage because they are organized and they strive for profection  the U S A have something that TT does not have professionalism the league may not be that good but it is a professional league the coach's may not be that good but he's a professional coach the players may not be that good but they are professional players TT is run by amateurs the players the coach's the administration is all a bunch amateurs giving a TT coach money etc is a waste of time they could only screw it up because they are amateurs look at all the money that was spent on B St Clair and S Hart and look how much licks we got from that G Cummings had a good football philosophy but because he was a amateur he failed.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 21, 2018, 12:35:27 AM »
Yuh still eh call names.
M W Ling , K Julien , J Garcia , C Benny , T Emmanuel and S Gomez

Pappy has been in and around (training, Tallman?). Julien is in the mix. Judah Garcia merits being in and around as often as possible. For Woo Ling it is a question of career management. He needs to do more and in the right environments to merit a senior national team call up. Ah not giving him even ah "in and around" rating. Plain talk.

Regarding Shannon Gomez, it might not hurt DL to ask Patrick Viera a few questions and then place that conversation against what he sees currently. Definitely merits inquiry.

Che Benny? Not yet.

Yuh left out some other names doh. Dem fellas not yuh friends?
Once DL gives a player like N Lewis who is riding pine in the USL playing time he has shown that he does not know what he is doing and he should be fired all the players who name I called should be given playing time.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 20, 2018, 01:11:49 PM »
It is unfortunate that the national team does not have another friendly in this fifa time window. They need more games to asses new and fringe players. It would have been nice to have a game where Greg and the new keeper split time. England, US, Mexico all playing 2 games. We played one game we were on the back foot for the most. We need more games.
It does not matter how much friendly's DL get he is not going to play the younger players because he is to scared to use them DL is a waste of time.

ffisback, DJW running(ruining) football at this moment. This is going to be the way until elections. DL is trying his best with a diabolical situation. Until we get a new president, and get some people with deep pockets to support him, nothing will change. So if DL leave who do you think will coach the team? You think he will bring back Hart?
Anybody who thinks getting rid of DJW is going to solve TTFF problems is living in a dream world anybody who takes over TTFF is going to have the same problem the federation is broke .Atleast he could get other country's federations to pay for our friendly's the problem is much bigger than DJW.


Bringing back SH is a backward step the team would go back to playing scramble football under DL the team is playing much better defensively the problem is the team is still playing scramble football. I would not hire a Trinidadian to coach the team it will have to be somebody that we can afford I think Z Vanes and F Maturana was good.

Vranes and Maturana??? How may times has Vranes coached our team. He has always run against the TTFA president.  Jack always used him as care taker. Maturana was TT coach. He was a patient guy. He tried to instill some discipline structure. But again when is time to get friendlies, Jack always come up with something to full his pocket. At the same time we never played Colombia. He was a former coach there. He never tried to get Ven. or Ecuador. I have nothing against foreign coaches, but I think if you could bend backward to give a foreign coach all the resources that he demands, why the hell you can't do it for a local coach.
[/b]The realty is only Vanes and Maturana would put up with the BS that goes on in TT another foreign coach would tell them idiots to like there balls and with no money I don't think we have much of a choice. J Warner used Vanes because he was able to get decent results with out spending much money which is something he could not get with local coach's and when TT finally defeated the U S A in a WCQ in 2008 that was 1 of the best moments as a TT football fan Maturana record speak for itself.

People in TT continue use this false notion that instead of spending money and resources on a foreign coach they could get the same result if they spend on a local coach that could not be furthest from the truth coach's  like B ST Clair and S Hart got more friendly's and financial support than the foreign coach's and they still got there buts kick.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 20, 2018, 01:04:19 AM »
It is unfortunate that the national team does not have another friendly in this fifa time window. They need more games to asses new and fringe players. It would have been nice to have a game where Greg and the new keeper split time. England, US, Mexico all playing 2 games. We played one game we were on the back foot for the most. We need more games.
It does not matter how much friendly's DL get he is not going to play the younger players because he is to scared to use them DL is a waste of time.

ffisback, DJW running(ruining) football at this moment. This is going to be the way until elections. DL is trying his best with a diabolical situation. Until we get a new president, and get some people with deep pockets to support him, nothing will change. So if DL leave who do you think will coach the team? You think he will bring back Hart?
Anybody who thinks getting rid of DJW is going to solve TTFF problems is living in a dream world anybody who takes over TTFF is going to have the same problem the federation is broke .Atleast he could get other country's federations to pay for our friendly's the problem is much bigger than DJW.


Bringing back SH is a backward step the team would go back to playing scramble football under DL the team is playing much better defensively the problem is the team is still playing scramble football. I would not hire a Trinidadian to coach the team it will have to be somebody that we can afford I think Z Vanes and F Maturana was good.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 19, 2018, 01:18:27 AM »
It is unfortunate that the national team does not have another friendly in this fifa time window. They need more games to asses new and fringe players. It would have been nice to have a game where Greg and the new keeper split time. England, US, Mexico all playing 2 games. We played one game we were on the back foot for the most. We need more games.
It does not matter how much friendly's DL get he is not going to play the younger players because he is to scared to use them DL is a waste of time.

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 19, 2018, 01:13:29 AM »
Yuh still eh call names.
M W Ling , K Julien , J Garcia , C Benny , T Emmanuel and S Gomez

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Football / Re: Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread.
« on: November 18, 2018, 10:40:33 AM »
How could you with a straight face say he doesn"t bring younger players into the team?
Giving a man a 5 minute sweat then not using him again is not giving somebody a chance that means DL does not know what he's doing that's why he should be fired.

How many players fall into that category? Who and when? Or is that you have one particular player in mind?

But let me play, five (5) minutes in football could make or break you, not so? And, 5 minutes on the pitch doesn't happen in isolation from 80 minutes of practice, ent?

Truth is, yuh touching on something I've been thinking about as well, but it likely indicates not that he doesn't know what he is doing, but that he knows what he needs NOW. Up to those players to find a place to improve in the meantime. If I'm reading you correctly, yuh might have to consider the position the player plays.

Once the WCQ was over it was time for the rebuilding phrase the truth is DL is to scared to give the younger players a chance that's why he is only giving them 5 minutes a game its a waste of time having him around any longer.

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