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While you make some good points you are confusing the administrative role and the coaching role there are not the same the administrative role is to make sure the house is in order filling staff positions hiring coach's organizing friendly's etc the coach's job is to build a team make tactical decisions build the best system for his team and that's were DL has failed DJW is not the 1 who have KM & JJ on the bench to play Panama and the U S A that's DL decision DJW is not the 1 who have TT playing that defensive football against Panama and the U S A that's DL decision he's a looser it makes no sense staying with a looser because he will always be a looser.This has to be TT biggest defeat in a long time I remember TT getting 7 in Mexico city in 2000 but that was TT B team this is more like our A team there is no way DL should be allowed to coach this team after this.
Yeah but that "B" team probably had more quality than this "A" team. We've gone from having our best players plying their trade in the EPL and champion to having our best players in the MLS. That is the reality of things.
Molino and Jones are 29 and 28 this year respectfully. They are arguably our best players but they will never play in a top european league ever. Their time for that has passed. No club is going to take a risk and sign a 28-29 mls player because Europe already have a lowly view of the MLS and its quality. They rather sign the teenagers and develop them. After MLS then what other options they have? USL?
We need to figure out our pipeline for our players' development. We still operating on guesswork. You all think that staticians sat down in a room with DL and decided the best 24 based on scientific reasoning? That is the reality of sports today. I'm sure USA did it.
Our football needs a complete overhaul. Firing DL at this point shouldn't even be the priority. Next is WC qualifiers. Where the players coming from for that? The only way that a coach can make an impact on TT football is if the team made up of foreign born players such as Bostock, de leon etc. In fact that is our only hope now. That should supply the national team for a couple of years whilst we get development in order.
Remember America did the exact same for a couple of years and they were competitive. MLS is dog sh*t. Let's be real.
Anbrat' Point taken but clean out the bloody house.This crap is hard to swallow,it might be an idea to stay out of international football for 2 or 3 years and start with somIts quite obvious this guy this guy does not have a plan B if he does not resign after the Guyana game who ever is responsible for extending his contract should not have anything do with TT football again.WATCH Post-match press conference of Trinidad and Tobago Men's National Team coach, Dennis Lawrence following 6-0 loss to the United States during the 2019 Gold Cup group stage.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/pkZxggk21jA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/pkZxggk21jA</a>
he does talk a real good game
DJW calls TTFA board meeting; Lawrence, U-17 team and general secretary head talking points.They need to stop DJW from giving DL another contract I understand a record like that if DL was using a lot of young players giving them games to get experience but using the same old players from last campaign and getting results like that is unacceptable.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) board will hold its first meeting of 2019 on Wednesday 20 February and it could set the tone for controversial president David John-Williams’ final nine months in office.
John-Williams has held on to his own job—after a motion to remove him by FC Santa Rosa was thwarted at the AGM, two months ago—but now the posts of Men’s National Senior Team head coach Dennis Lawrence and general secretary Justin Latapy-George are at stake.
Lawrence’s two year contract expired on 31 January while Latapy-George’s term ended last November. Thus far, John-Williams has suggested he wants to keep his head coach but ditch his general secretary with former Trinidad and Tobago Super League (TTSL) administrator Camara David already lined up for the latter office.
Last week, Wired868 revealed exclusively that David’s name was already placed on the FIFA website as the TTFA’s general secretary, although it was since removed.
Remarkably, the TTFA president is trying to get the board to renew Lawrence’s contract without even revealing what terms were offered to the the former 2006 World Cup star in the first place.
There is neither a TTFA technical committee nor a technical director in place to help evaluate Lawrence’s stint either, as the former body is one of 15 standing committees left non-functional under the current administration while Anton Corneal is yet to return to work.
Corneal, who returned to the post in August 2017, walked off the job in January after going unpaid for six months. Since then, John-Williams has authorised three months’ payment for the technical director but Corneal continues to insist that the TTFA meet all of its financial obligations to him.
Lawrence has had a mixed spell at the helm of the Soca Warriors. Trinidad and Tobago lost six of their eight matches in the Concacaf Hex under the six foot seven coach while the team slipped from 80th to 93rd in the FIFA rankings.
Overall, the Warriors won five, drew four and lost 11 matches under Lawrence with 18 goals scored and 27 conceded. However, he can point to a seismic 2-1 home win over the United States—which eliminated the North American giants from the Russia 2018 World Cup—as well as an encouraging 2-0 friendly win over the United Arab Emirates last September.
At home, Trinidad and Tobago have three wins (USA, Panama and Barbados), two draws (Grenada and Guyana) and four defeats (Mexico, Jamaica, Honduras and Panama) with 10 goals scored and as many conceded.
The board must decide whether that record is good enough to keep Lawrence at the helm for the 2019 Concacaf Gold Cup, or consider a new head coach.
In the case of the general secretary portfolio, a constitutional crisis appears to be looming with the president insisting that the board is obliged to appoint whoever he selects for the job, although Elton Prescott SC and Trinidad and Tobago Football Referees Association (TTFRA) vice-president Osmond Downer—both framers of the TTFA constitution—disagreed.
Another pressing issue is the state of the Men’s National Under-17 Team, which remains inactive with less than two months to go before the start of their Peru 2019 World Youth Cup qualifying series.
John-Williams has neither confirmed nor denied rumours that the Under-17 boys can be sacrificed so that the Under-15 Team—led by W Connection head coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier—can take their place for ‘tournament experience’.
Although John-Williams is yet to reveal an agenda for next week’s meeting, board member and TTSL Keith Look Loy requested that all of the aforementioned topics be put on the table along the status of the TTFA’s Audit and Compliance Committee and Home of Football and Income Generation Project.
Wednesday’s conclave, which comes a month after it was constitutionally due, will also see a debut appearance by Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) president Selby Browne, whose body was awarded a board position at the AGM.
Bizarrely, the TTFA’s general membership—and, in particular, the Pro League clubs—voted against a seat at the board for the Secondary Schools Football League (SSFL), although the SSFL easily has the most teams, biggest attendances and longest history of all the TTFA’s members and proved to be the only body capable of securing a million dollar sponsorship deal.
Browne’s inclusion brings the TTFA board up to 13 members. They are:
John-Williams (president), Ewing Davis (vice-president), Richard Quan Chan (Southern FA), Anthony Moore (Tobago FA), Joseph Taylor (TTFRA), Sharon Warrick (Women’s League Football), Julia Baptiste (TT Pro League), Collin Partap (Central Football Association), Look Loy (TTSL), Bandele Kamau (Eastern FA), Raeshawn Mars (Northern FA), Sherwyn Dyer (Eastern Counties Football Union) and Browne (VFFOTT).
John-Williams has always enjoyed the unstinting support of Davis, Quan Chan, Moore and Dyer, which accounts for five votes. But he has generally not had his way with Look Loy, Partap, Taylor, Warrick and any of the NFA’s representatives.
If those 10 members remain consistent, the swing votes would come from Baptiste, Kamau and Browne. Should John-Williams convince two from that trio to see things his way, he will get the coach and general secretary he wants—even, possibly, without revealing their terms of references.
Despite the obvious decline of Trinidad and Tobago’s football, both on and off the field, there is no questioning the strength of John-Williams’ canvassing, as he continues to emerge largely unscathed from meetings with the board and general membership.
Next Wednesday evening at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva might be one of his more challenging meetings yet with high stakes again for the local game.
Editor’s Note: The TTFA board meeting was moved from Tuesday 19 February to Wednesday 20 February. That change was reflected in our story from 12 February.
I have watched video's of both league's and the Malta premier league is much faster than the pro league plus the coach's are better too.I find that incredibly doubtful.The Malta league is a much better league than the pro league.M W Ling and J Garcia are much technically better players than the current players on the national team.M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.
That is your criteria for national selection?
And how is that being measured, and in what environment?
The Malta league is a much better league than the pro league.M W Ling and J Garcia are much technically better players than the current players on the national team.M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.
That is your criteria for national selection?
And how is that being measured, and in what environment?
M W Ling and J Garcia are much technically better players than the current players on the national team.M W Ling is improving he had his best game as a professional footballer he scored his 1st goal as a professional and he hit the cross bar twice from free kicks I think he deserve a chance to play on NT.
That is your criteria for national selection?
You talking some real nonsense bro nobody does that anymore if those players who got scholarships in the U S A were that good professional clubs in the U S A would have sign them how many players that got scholarships in the U S A was signed by the MLS in the last decade or even the USL getting scholarships to schools in the USA does not prepare you for professional football that's just a higher level of amateur football and like I said before don't waste your time on a bunch of amateurs .The reality is the football game has been changed in the 80s the U S A and the central American leagues were all semi pro leagues in the 90s the U S A and Costa Rica and now the rest of Central American leagues are now fully professional the pro league is just a bunch amateur players and coach's claiming to be professional and now they have been fully exposed TT just cannot compete anymore the TTFF needs a real leader somebody who is going to make some serious changes to TT football the SSFL cannot cut it anymore the pro league and the national team should be focusing on bringing the youths threw.You must therefore agree this is not under the control of the National team coach, regardless of whoever they ARE.
The National team coach cannot, and should not bring the youths thru, if he have more skilled, more coachable, even if older guys , yet 30 % better. This is National team, not football camp. Sure you can have inviteees for training, but not until they are ready can they be invited, farless played.
BTW: we have many good players on scholarships in US, but not enuff scouts to take a look at all. We have many young foreign born citizens, shouldn't they get a sniff ? You already indicated that SSFL not up to par. So in the meanwhile what is any coach to do. He could only work with who he see, and he can't see many, we just can't afford it. And if those he see, not up to par internationally, by our (the fan) standards should he change them for those that not up to par locally. Just for a Change ? As a great Calypsonian once sang "Yuh looking for Horn. Penty, Plenty Horn, boy"
So, ffisback. Tell us what you will do right to change the situation. Keeping in mind that DJW is the president of ttfa and has the backings of some the zone and also has the fifa president on his side, for now. Why don’t you form a group to run for the elections. Ah mean seriously. You don’t have to run for the post. But get some people who you feel can do the job.The TTFF has been improperly run for over 50 years it could probably take several years to straighten out all there problems while I will love to go back home to help my team I have to weigh the pro's and con's I left Trinidad as a teenager I have know contacts with people who are inside the football fraternity I will be going up against the pre colonial system that the British establish and the post colonial system that E Williams and the PNM regime establish so they could stay in power just like how the people on this site want to cut throat if I go down there my life will be in danger.
You sure is not you that blind.Yea you in particular, you're blind.Lord father put a hand on these people!!DJW has a hand in player selections!!! DL I'm sure given the chance to choose freely, wouldve given younger players a chance. Lawd I cant wait for DJW to be gone and we get a proper president who will show full support to the TTFA as a whole, THEN will you be proven wrong. Allyuh...remember this thread when things change.all this talk of youth not getting a chance and Latapy just basically said that SSFL don't develop footballing intelligence in our youth........thing is our most notable young prospect not too long ago IMHO displayed this very said lack of football intelligence........I once hypothesized a while ago that Latapy's struggle as a coach has much to do with his seeming inability to "transfer that intelligence" as a coach......on his feet Latapy made the players around him somehow "magically" better will never forget dat 20mins against Paraguay in 06 where ah team was disjointed for 70min was suddenly playing all over Paraguay....man suddenly knowing where to be for the flick pass...dropping to pull players and create space...all while forming these fluid triangles....I agree that the SSFL is not good enough anymore but my problem is with the fact that DL is not giving these younger players a chance to play on the senior team that's the only way they will improve is if they play against better players.
I watch SSFL highlights every now and then and while you see nice individual football you don't see much good TEAM football.....all dat fluff jus to say that all these INDIVIDUALS ffsback going on about generally leave much to be desired when their INDIVIDUAL talents get nullified, and often very easily, by better "educated" players on better "educated" TEAMS.....d whole is always greater than d sum of d parts....something our football culture often ignores.....yuh ever notice dat we have ah chronic habit of defending with half ah teamwatch d last american goal, how long it take to score and how many attacking players reach back to support....................
Lord father put a hand on these people!!DJW has a hand in player selections!!! DL I'm sure given the chance to choose freely, wouldve given younger players a chance. Lawd I cant wait for DJW to be gone and we get a proper president who will show full support to the TTFA as a whole, THEN will you be proven wrong. Allyuh...remember this thread when things change.all this talk of youth not getting a chance and Latapy just basically said that SSFL don't develop footballing intelligence in our youth........thing is our most notable young prospect not too long ago IMHO displayed this very said lack of football intelligence........I once hypothesized a while ago that Latapy's struggle as a coach has much to do with his seeming inability to "transfer that intelligence" as a coach......on his feet Latapy made the players around him somehow "magically" better will never forget dat 20mins against Paraguay in 06 where ah team was disjointed for 70min was suddenly playing all over Paraguay....man suddenly knowing where to be for the flick pass...dropping to pull players and create space...all while forming these fluid triangles....I agree that the SSFL is not good enough anymore but my problem is with the fact that DL is not giving these younger players a chance to play on the senior team that's the only way they will improve is if they play against better players.
I watch SSFL highlights every now and then and while you see nice individual football you don't see much good TEAM football.....all dat fluff jus to say that all these INDIVIDUALS ffsback going on about generally leave much to be desired when their INDIVIDUAL talents get nullified, and often very easily, by better "educated" players on better "educated" TEAMS.....d whole is always greater than d sum of d parts....something our football culture often ignores.....yuh ever notice dat we have ah chronic habit of defending with half ah team
National team is not OJT. And playing against better players once every 2 months not gonna improve nobody. Improvement comes with consistency comes with practice comes with systems of development.So we might as well stop playing friendly's then.
all this talk of youth not getting a chance and Latapy just basically said that SSFL don't develop footballing intelligence in our youth........thing is our most notable young prospect not too long ago IMHO displayed this very said lack of football intelligence........I once hypothesized a while ago that Latapy's struggle as a coach has much to do with his seeming inability to "transfer that intelligence" as a coach......on his feet Latapy made the players around him somehow "magically" better will never forget dat 20mins against Paraguay in 06 where ah team was disjointed for 70min was suddenly playing all over Paraguay....man suddenly knowing where to be for the flick pass...dropping to pull players and create space...all while forming these fluid triangles....I agree that the SSFL is not good enough anymore but my problem is with the fact that DL is not giving these younger players a chance to play on the senior team that's the only way they will improve is if they play against better players.
I watch SSFL highlights every now and then and while you see nice individual football you don't see much good TEAM football.....all dat fluff jus to say that all these INDIVIDUALS ffsback going on about generally leave much to be desired when their INDIVIDUAL talents get nullified, and often very easily, by better "educated" players on better "educated" TEAMS.....d whole is always greater than d sum of d parts....something our football culture often ignores.....yuh ever notice dat we have ah chronic habit of defending with half ah team
Placing on the job training in context:Everybody is not a quick learner S Gerrard may only needs 1 stint with the u18 team D Lawrence probably need several stints.QuoteLast season Gerrard coached Liverpool’s Under-18s. “I learned a lot preparing and delivering sessions, speaking to players one-to-one, using different formations. It gave me a year’s driving lessons. I wasn’t expecting the Rangers offer. Do I think it came a bit early? Probably. But when it’s a club as big as Rangers you only get one opportunity to manage them. So I had to reflect. Where am I strong? Who do I need to help me in areas where I lack experience? The staff Rangers put around me have been absolutely brilliant.”
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/15/steven-gerrard-rangers-liverpool-jurgen-klopp-chelsea-interview
Everything is not necessarily about the First Team experience. Every coach has had a first coaching job and a lack of experience. More important than experience is a personalized understanding of how to effectively convey/teach the game to players.
@ffisbackI read some were that Vanes and Maturana put in for the position and if what you telling me is true that people from all over the world put in for the position and that is who they chose everybody on that board should be fired at once.
You seem to be ignoring that the TTFA solicited applications worldwide. Do you recall, or are you aware of, the number of persons who applied for the position? From that actual pool of applicants, we have definition of those who were concretely interested in the job. What's your plan? To present the job to someone who is not interested in the position?
Did Vranes apply for the position?
Where is this supposed "better coach for that money" among the applicants?
