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Football / Re: Sponsors Unsure About Future TTFF Relationship
« on: February 11, 2012, 02:40:41 PM »
No need when u have a blank checque from me and my fellow tax payers.
Ain't that the truth. But, the more the TTFF is dependent on government funding the closer they get to violating the FIFA statutes that touch upon undue influence of third parties. One way or another, the days of these jokers are numbered.

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Football / Sponsors Unsure About Future TTFF Relationship
« on: February 11, 2012, 01:54:25 PM »
What little corporate involvement with TTFF there was is now in serious doubt of continuing.

Sponsors unsure about TTFF
T&T Newsday reports.


LOCAL CORPORATE bodies Carib Brewery Limited and Blink/Bmobile are both unsure of their future involvement with the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), following a levy order taken by 13 Soca Warriors players against the local governing body last Wednesday.

Colin Murray, sponsorship and events manager of Carib, noted, “Carib’s deal with the national team came to an end at the end of the World Cup campaign. At this point in time, we really don’t have a deal per se with the TTFF.”

However, Murray was asked if Carib may renew their deal with the Federation.

“Nothing has been confirmed as yet,” he said. “It’s too early to say what we’re doing or what we’re not doing.

“All we know is what we’re reading in the papers or seeing in the news. At this point in time, we really don’t have much to say on this issue.”

He continued, “we don’t know what is happening with the TTFF, what is the next step from the players. As a sponsor, we’re waiting to see what unfolds. And we really can’t comment until there’s a clearer picture to the way forward.”

Camille Salandy, head of public relations and external affairs at Blink/Bmobile, was asked if the telecommunications group will be continuing their sponsorship with TTFF. “That’s much too early to tell,” she responded. “We cannot give an official comment at this time.”

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Football / Re: Eve: Give equal opportunity to Olympic footballers.
« on: February 10, 2012, 06:10:01 PM »
Eve should grow a pair or be quiet and focus his energies on the team. Now he's allowing himself to be used by the TTFF to spread this red herring argument that anyone who wishes a FIFA takeover or suspension are jeopardizing the efforts of the teams that are currently in good form.

There is a T&T-based group that has been in contact with FIFA since last August and that very question was asked. They were told by FIFA that no such action would be made if a normalization committee came about. In fact, when their official letter requesting the normalization committee was sent in November, a specific request was included in the letter that T&T footballers should not be punished as a result of administrative malfeasance.

Anyone who raises the argument that the "potential consequences" of total reform include lost opportunities for players or denial of local administrators to guide the reform of T&T football is either ignorant of the process or is a lackey of the current TTFF.

BTW, it appears that Jack has failed to submit anything to the court today.

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors seize TTFF assets
« on: February 08, 2012, 12:57:49 PM »
It's made the international wires
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Former-Trinidad-internationals-join-police-raid-on-national-association-HQ-article862990.html

What Jack Horner fails to understand is the value of the raid is not the goods confiscated but rather in the players ability to demonstrate for the world to see the clear sign the TTFF is a bankrupt entity that is ripe for a FIFA takeover. So he can laugh all he wants, Jack may get away but the toll it will take will make any escape from justice a pyrrhic victory at best.

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Football / Re: Coaches hail symposium...Rougier calls for Corneal support
« on: February 02, 2012, 04:29:46 PM »
Those fellas really have no pride or self respect. Is "endorse" a euphemism for "kissing ass"?

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Football / Re: FireBrand grandmonther passed away.
« on: February 01, 2012, 09:03:54 AM »
Prayers and condolences Firebrand to you and your family.

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Football / Re: How Finnish football changed my life.
« on: January 27, 2012, 06:23:34 PM »
'trim, your ol' man is a boss. Don't lament or think of what could have been. You were advised how to keep your dignity and you took the advice. That is something that can never be taken away. Nice story.

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Football / Re: Why FIFA must be enlisted to change T&T football.
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:26:26 PM »
I also received a notice from Change.org. FIFA received both a letter in December and a copy of this most recent article and declaration. At this point, it would be up to the more respected individuals involved in T&T business and sports to be approached. Perhaps, Transparency International can be the rallying agent and platform that can be used to help mobilize LP's declaration into a viable campaign for change.

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Football / Re: Time for the TTFF Spring.
« on: January 24, 2012, 08:39:16 AM »
Was
I agree with Coop's regarding the court appearance... big deal that none of them were in court, that's what their attorney(s) are for.  Overall Lasana hit on some good points but the personal attacks struck me as unprofessional. Fine to say them things on a message board, but not when you're trying to be a respectable media outlet/journalist.

I like Lincoln and Lasana, a whole lot too, but I agree with you on this!

Was there anything in Lincoln's article that was personal? It looked like he went out of his way to avoid personal attacks.

The attorney representing both the TTFF and Camps as well as Warner if he is joined is a bigger issue than whether Groden et al appeared in person in the courtroom. Lalla's response to the judge's inquiry about Groden's whereabouts sounded like a real mamaguy so I'm concerned the judge is in on the joke. The strategy I don't understand is why the players didn't include Jack as a defendant from the beginning. 

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General Discussion / Re: Patrick Manning had a stoke rushed to Sando Gen
« on: January 24, 2012, 01:22:05 AM »
Same problem as North East Stars  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Really?  Whatever your political affiliation may be, a former PM probably deserves a bit more empathy than that. Hope he has the strength to battle through the ailment.

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Football / Re: Why FIFA must be enlisted to change T&T football.
« on: January 23, 2012, 03:27:18 PM »
Was this published in the press?

Before anything new is put in place, all administrators in TTFF should be issued a job description in which they are made accountable for certain performance levels of achievement. There is no accountability, therefore no one can fail. They can all blame other people. These same people have been failing the nation for over 20 years but there is no mechanism to remove them. Same with the ProLeague. How long can we be forced to tolerate ineptitude and failure?

People must be made personally accountable, otherwise its just a job for life.

Salaries should be cut and become performance related. You only earn big money if you achieve. Lets see who's there for passion and pride and who just wants to rock back on a 6 figure salary. 

I think you are missing the point of the article. Who in T&T is going to make the TTFF executive step down or as you say develop job descriptions? The TTFF is accountable to no one but FIFA. You can't even say pressure could be placed on TTFF sponsors because there are none and if the government attempts to impose the changes you suggest, FIFA will declare interference of a third party. The emotional approach to issues surrounding the TTFF should stop because that is how the likes of Warner, Watson et al are able to outmaneuver their opponents.

Job descriptions can come after an interim board is in place and a new constitution is created. Only FIFA can make this happen.

Sorry, I may have not made it clear, but when I said "Before anything new is put in place" I meant before the new version of TTFF is elected. The FIFA commission must put in place infrastructure to ensure accountability. Even if the same people were voted back in, and thats entirely possible, they must work under a strict structure that demands accountability and rewards performance. They'll be gone in 12 months!!

 :beermug:

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Football / Re: Why FIFA must be enlisted to change T&T football.
« on: January 23, 2012, 09:40:31 AM »
Was this published in the press?

Before anything new is put in place, all administrators in TTFF should be issued a job description in which they are made accountable for certain performance levels of achievement. There is no accountability, therefore no one can fail. They can all blame other people. These same people have been failing the nation for over 20 years but there is no mechanism to remove them. Same with the ProLeague. How long can we be forced to tolerate ineptitude and failure?

People must be made personally accountable, otherwise its just a job for life.

Salaries should be cut and become performance related. You only earn big money if you achieve. Lets see who's there for passion and pride and who just wants to rock back on a 6 figure salary. 

I think you are missing the point of the article. Who in T&T is going to make the TTFF executive step down or as you say develop job descriptions? The TTFF is accountable to no one but FIFA. You can't even say pressure could be placed on TTFF sponsors because there are none and if the government attempts to impose the changes you suggest, FIFA will declare interference of a third party. The emotional approach to issues surrounding the TTFF should stop because that is how the likes of Warner, Watson et al are able to outmaneuver their opponents.

Job descriptions can come after an interim board is in place and a new constitution is created. Only FIFA can make this happen.

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A very good program indeed. LP had a lot of good points and made it clear that any claims of the Watson-led TTFF  to be different from the old regime is at best a bad joke.

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Football / Re: TTFF could name national coach today
« on: January 13, 2012, 07:40:56 AM »
Wait...are they really serious? If they appoint a new coach, they will enter into a contract. Once the players move in the bayliffs, FIFA sanctioned football will be suspended, which means no International friendlies. Apparently, the TTFF have no money, so the Govt will need to pay the coaches salary. Why would they use taxpayers money to pay a coach who can't play any games?

Surely, this meeting should have been to discuss how they will deal with the impending disaster? Of course, if stopped behaving like ostriches and dragged their head from the sand, they would have attended court and taken things seriously.

I also notice that no mention was made of the letter they had to send to Warner yesterday to ask for their money back!

They deserve no sympathy for the fate they are about to receive. 

FIFA will not intervene so long as the federation continues to operate; bailiff or not. The TTFF has no assets so there is nothing to collect. If the judge has the power AND is inclined to issue a bankruptcy order, that could take quite a long time. In the meantime, the senior team is not involved in any major competition so there is no incentive for FIFA or CONCACAF for that matter to get involved in what is essentially an internal player matter. While the case may seem special to us, federations are frequently embroiled in disputes with their players. This one just happened to reach ridiculous levels because it involved Warner.

The only two surefire ways FIFA will get involved is if the TTFF cannot operate (a la the CFU) or if the government get so involved with its operation that it warrants third party interference (very possible knowing the Minister's special talent for self indulgence).

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Football / Re: Coach Waldrum finalizes U-17 Women Roster.
« on: January 11, 2012, 12:00:12 PM »
LP brought Waldrum on board and wanted to keep him beyond the 6 month contract but Look Loy and Shabazz scuttled that plan.

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Football / Re: One of the top goalkeepers I know.
« on: January 11, 2012, 06:47:21 AM »
De man's form is good.

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Football / Re: Anil Roberts & The Combine
« on: January 10, 2012, 07:09:34 PM »
is it imperative to have the govt involved in this? Ah mean.. not just the current gov't but previous administrations get level licks when they decide not to fund or align with stuff like this. Why can't this be done without gov't approval/help?

Anil is a confirmed ass years now, but we have to stop the breast feeding from govt.

I think the govt offers a 150% tax rebate for companies that invest in sport yet the same companies that participate in sports were the same who participated before the tax incentive. There are no real new players in the football sponsorship landscape. This makes it harder to not turn to gov't for assistance. So until corporate T&T and the TTFF figure out they have to invest and spend their own money in order to seed growth in football that would benefit them in the future, the choice for program funding is rather limited.

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Football / Re: Anil Roberts & The Combine
« on: January 09, 2012, 04:52:49 PM »
Imagine that. Anil calls the 2006 warriors "mercenaries" for asking for their money, holds money from national team players, puts them in sub-standard hotels, and keeps money from the Pro League BUT others are guilty of exploiting players? Between the ministry and the TTFF I'm not sure who are the biggest exploiters of Trinbagonian footballers. Ask Julius James, Scott Sealy, Stern, Shaka, and others who got their break outside of T&T in the U.S. if they felt exploited. Anil is a real embarrassment.

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Football / Re: Taking back the Marvin Lee Stadium today
« on: January 06, 2012, 12:40:28 PM »
As for Tempo's comments on adverse possession and whether TnT is a race, notice, or race-notice jurisdiction... I don't think any of that is implicated here as there appears to be no dispute as to ownership of the property.

True.

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Football / Re: Seattle coach vows to make T&T a frequent stop.
« on: January 06, 2012, 12:37:23 PM »
Tempo you real have time yes.  lol

 :beermug: It's cathartic

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Football / Re: Seattle coach vows to make T&T a frequent stop.
« on: January 06, 2012, 07:28:21 AM »
I know personally what happened with the FC Dallas deal.
Then c'mon, what happened? Who dropped the ball? Just because a deal doesn't work out doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad deal.

These North American coach is very difficult, they want another Stern John for peanuts.

Yes, Carlyle Mitchell, Daneil Cyrus, Keon Daniel, and Julius James are frequently mistaken for Stern John. The point is when given an option to ply their trade in T&T or MLS, MLS is a usually a better option for a young player both financially and in terms of developing their level of professionalism.

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Football / Re: Taking back the Marvin Lee Stadium today
« on: January 06, 2012, 06:31:29 AM »
The land is now own by Warner.

Good luck to any fool who things they could take back the MLS.

Jack will raise again !!!!!

Don't talk too bold, I'm sure T&T has their own version of Eminent Domain and if the reports of your boy fighting for his political survival both in Cabinet and party leadership; what would keep the PP from taking the property in order to get back into good graces of the public?

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Football / Re: Seattle coach vows to make T&T a frequent stop.
« on: January 06, 2012, 06:26:54 AM »
And your point is jack horner? Do you know why the Dallas agreement didn't pan out or are you speculating; again.  At the end of the day, coaches are interested in one thing and one thing alone; getting good players that can improve their team. So, if Seattle comes decides to come again its because they saw some talent, if they don't it's because they saw better talent elsewhere. It is that straightforward.

At the end of the day, it looks as though over 90 players were given an opportunity to make an impression. That is all that can be expected to be provided; an opportunity. So hats off to the Pro League, LP, and Seattle for providing the chance and I hope the players can experience more events like this because it is a helluva lot better than what is happening right now.

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Football / Re: Taking back the Marvin Lee Stadium today
« on: January 05, 2012, 11:36:07 PM »
Well as a matter of housekeeping let's get the terms straight:

Lessor= landlord
Lessee= tenant


Next, I would disagree that such an arrangement would ever make any kind of sense for the tenant, there simply is no upside.  My educated guess (not being a mortgage banker) is that you can't borrow against a structure on property owned by others.  Not saying that the structure is value less, but such an arrangement is fraught with problems, not the least being the very real threat of litigation.  I don't see a lender voluntarily entering into such an arrangement.  If the landowner ever wants to sell he can, there is nothing to prevent him from doing so, not even the leaseholder.

If there's is ever a dispute over money owed, real property takes precedent over any other kind of interest, so the landowner's interest always takes precedence over the note holding lender.  At any rate we could go on and on, but all of this is not only hypothetical, but probably moot as well... for all we know Jack own both land and building.

Bakes is right, a lender would not likely enter into such an agreement because prior creditors who have a security interest would, in most cases, take priority over later mortgages. Among one of the issues that would be interesting to determine is whether a lease between Warner and CONCACAF ever existed and if not what constitutes adverse possession according to T&T land law. Another item that may be worth looking into is how Warner established title to the property and whether T&T is a race or notice jurisdiction when it comes to recording the deed.

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Football / Re: Warner says he got World Cup TV Rights for $1
« on: December 29, 2011, 10:30:30 PM »
Jack has fallen into the abyss and he wants company.

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What is the age limit for these aspiring players?


I think it's 23.

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors question Warner; where has the money gone?
« on: December 24, 2011, 12:25:55 AM »
Warner and John Corzine should teach the world that trick on how they does make money disappear....

Except Corzine didn't make any money disappear... did he?  Like most right-wing nutjob Republican sound bites... makes for a nice lead-in on Faux News, but completely lacking in basis.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/brokerage/story/2011-12-13/mf-global-corzine-customer-money/51876290/1
Not really

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