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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: KMC lands U.S. music deal

« on: February 17, 2011, 07:57:49 PM »

wake me up when socapro finishes his boring speech 

What speech? Just play the song sah! No wonder you are a failed artist, you can't appreciate a good tune!! 

the only failure i am seeing is from our local artists to take our music to billboard, so much so that other artists from other islands have achieved above and beyond what our local artists have done.

and the failure of djs abroad that promote this non-commercial music that is going nowhere.

yuh changing your tone now, before yuh pigeon hole KMC as a jump and wave singer, when men show you he is not, yuh come and say he music hasn't reach the billboard...

Which is also incorrect, Soul On Fire the song, which saw KMC get signed to American label Sequence Records in 2005, got spins in North America. The album sold over 200,000 copies worldwide and peaked at #84 on the BILLBOARD top 200.

secondly if he wasn't recognised internationally how did this remix come about?

I eh know How to embed videos but look the song Touches was talking bout earlier with Puerto Rican/American artist Lumidee

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/YE47VeI0gnA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/YE47VeI0gnA</a>

If they didn't see something IN Ken, I doubt they woulda gamble on him twice, who is by far one of the more creative soca artistes there is, and I urge you to not just listen to what they play on the radio because they stop playing half his stuff...So thread lightly nah, you starting to come across little bitter...

did you read my first post?  i congratulated the man and wished him the best, was happy he is doing commercial music.

soul on fire was a one off, he needs a full album like that and red one will bring it.

those other tunes i dont rate them, im happy kmc can focus on entirely commercial music.

I went back and read it, and it was the only post where you actually made sense, if i read that post I might have posted the way i did...

however, you posts thereafter and even a portion of your first post you start to throw some lines/criticisms at KMC which were not quite accurate..

Now, read what i write good, i not fighting yuh,

the more i read your posts is the more i get the vibe that you don't like the style of the majority of KMC music particularly his reggae influenced stuff..and because YOU  don't like it you pigeon hole his stuff and say he would be better off doing what you prefer to hear, or what you believe is more likely to succeed.

All men have been trying to show you is that your view of the man's music, or how you've tried to portray it in this forum, is a bit skewed...

like your assertion that 95% of KMC's music is not jump and wave...
which, i know, being a staunch KMC fan since 1998, is false.

when men give yuh the proof you dismiss it and continue to act or are perceived as acting wrong and strong..

yuh overs what i/other men saying now?

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: KMC lands U.S. music deal

« on: February 16, 2011, 08:28:50 PM »

wake me up when socapro finishes his boring speech 

What speech? Just play the song sah! No wonder you are a failed artist, you can't appreciate a good tune!! 

the only failure i am seeing is from our local artists to take our music to billboard, so much so that other artists from other islands have achieved above and beyond what our local artists have done.

and the failure of djs abroad that promote this non-commercial music that is going nowhere.

yuh changing your tone now, before yuh pigeon hole KMC as a jump and wave singer, when men show you he is not, yuh come and say he music hasn't reach the billboard...

Which is also incorrect, Soul On Fire the song, which saw KMC get signed to American label Sequence Records in 2005, got spins in North America. The album sold over 200,000 copies worldwide and peaked at #84 on the BILLBOARD top 200.

secondly if he wasn't recognised internationally how did this remix come about?

I eh know How to embed videos but look the song Touches was talking bout earlier with Puerto Rican/American artist Lumidee

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/YE47VeI0gnA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/YE47VeI0gnA</a>

If they didn't see something IN Ken, I doubt they woulda gamble on him twice, who is by far one of the more creative soca artistes there is, and I urge you to not just listen to what they play on the radio because they stop playing half his stuff...So thread lightly nah, you starting to come across little bitter...

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Football / Re: Why is it we do better in Cricket than Football !!

« on: January 27, 2011, 09:55:07 AM »

Ok my two cents on the orginal topic..

Cricket in Trinidad is played at a higher level than football in Trinidad..it has been that way for a very long time.

Here's why: the legacy of Cricket in the Caribbean and in Trinidad is greater than that of football.

We have always been exposed to highest level of cricket in the Caribbean. Top quality teams and players come to Caribbean every year. The Queen's Park Oval has hosted most test matches than any other Caribbean venue.

We have had great teams in the West Indies and we regualrly see great players, and we know what work and preparation it takes to reach that level.

The same cannot be said for football.

What great legacy do we have to aspire to?
What world class team regularly plays here to push on to greater things?

The only truly world class team we regularly play against is Mexico and they often send their second teams to play us. The US now starting to get there.

We are a developing footballing nation. we do not yet know what it takes to achieve a world standard consistently, and as such we don't have any structure in place to push our players or teams to that standard.

As for jahKingdom, you really think your current Jamaica team is that much stronger than Trinidad and Tobago in 4 day cricket? I'll be honest Ja has a solid bowling attack, but our batting is stronger and the region has regularly shown ineptitude against our spinners.

Your recent success in the 4 day tournament had more to do with a combination of our complacency, weather affecting our games and a Barbados team that will stop at nothing to throw dirt in our eyes..

what say you?

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Football / Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread

« on: January 02, 2011, 10:52:39 AM »

Chow i dunno why you even bothering to argue with them Man U men, you better off watching Fox News to get objectivity than from them...

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General Discussion / Re: Port of Spain Mayor: No alcohol after midnight.

« on: December 13, 2010, 06:26:39 AM »

Lee Sing was on Morning Edition this morning, he get grill good by Fazeer I understand, I'll hadda check for it later.

Here's my take on things tho:

http://pedrotercero.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/louis-decree-liquor-store-blues/

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Football / Re: ...And the circle of blind hope

« on: December 09, 2010, 09:01:04 PM »

...And the circle of blind hope
By Ashford Jackman (Trinidad and Tobago Review)

In my Hockey-playing days at Paragon, a certain coach would repeatedly admonish us, whenever we lost a game, about our tendency to look at the immediate results and not the overall picture when analysing our problems. Specifically, he would note we saw clearly the defender who was beaten, but not the point earlier at which we lost possession.  That old lesson comes to mind whenever I ponder the plight of our national football team.

In the results-oriented world of professional sport, individuals’ contracts are signed and terminated with the regularity of the rising and setting sun. Make no mistake, pro sport is all about money; and nowhere, it seems, are the stakes higher than in the game of soccer. American gridiron football and baseball may command equal or greater figures, but it is in Association Football that hacking and hiring takes place at a speed to rival the very action on the field of play. The Bosman ruling of more than two decades ago has to bear the blame: the emergence of the “free agent” blew the roof off the salaries of players worldwide, and resulted in the mind-boggling spending wars of club football in England, Spain and Italy that we observe daily in the sports news.

Big spending draws “big” players, sell-out crowds and worldwide TV audiences, but here in the Caribbean, we enjoy none of the above. In the early nineties, riding on the success of the “Strike Squad” and its near-miss at the World Cup Finals, an attempt was made to run a Caribbean Professional League. It soon crashed for want of finance; the costs involved in flying teams around the region, without returns (very low ticket sales, no live TV revenue) quickly put paid to that idea. Two decades later, only Jamaica and T&T have leagues of any significance, and both are handicapped by the continuous bleeding of their leading players to the minor divisions of England, Scotland and the American MLS.

The region simply is not in the league of the developed countries; yet our football administrators insist on operating as if we were. The present quagmire in which the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation finds itself regarding the national team and its aspirations for World Cup 2014 is, to all extents and purposes, the result of that blinkered approach.

In recent months, the national team, under head coach Russel Latapy, has been suffering a series of unflattering results against regional opposition- teams that T&T would have laughed off the pitch in times past. In that period, dissatisfaction with those results and Latapy’s performance has grown to mutterings, mutterings have risen to national debate, debate has elevated to public admonishment by those who pull the strings, and Latas’ days as the man in charge are clearly numbered. A brief respite, provided by the team’s total dominance of Group ‘F’ in the Digicel Caribbean Cup has ended even as I write; Cuba has beaten T&T 2-0 on the opening night of the finals in Martinique.

It matters not whether the team is able to recover from this setback and battle their way to the final; the powers-that-be have openly stated, when publicly delivering Latas an ultimatum, that they will not risk T&T’s chances at Brasil 2014 any further- Martinique is the end of the line for Russel Latapy. Fair enough, you would think; after all, only 12 months remain following the Digicel finals before qualifying begins for the Brasilian World Cup. But that is precisely the problem; 12 months is not enough, not nearly enough- the bird has flown; our only reasonable hopes lie in qualifying for 2018.

Call it fate if you will, or call it pure irony, but coinciding with the team’s departure to the Digicel Finals was the passing of judgment in the four-year-long running battle between the Soca Warriors and Mr. Warner, the TTFF Special Advisor, over bonus payments that were promised them after reaching the finals in Germany 2006. As so many local journalists, including yours truly, have argued time and again, the repercussions of this dispute exercised the greatest influence in the country’s failure to capitalise on the momentum created by the Soca Warriors in making it to Germany 2006.

For the benefit of the uninformed, I will explain for the umpteenth time: the nucleus of the 2006 squad were ageing heroes- Latapy, Shaka Hislop, Dwight Yorke, Stern John, Dennis Lawrence, Marvin Andrews, Brent Sancho, Clayton Ince and so on. They succeeded by a combination of their experience, the defence-oriented approach of Dutch coach Leo Beenhakker and the FIFA decision to grant three-and-a-half berths in Germany to the CONCACAF.

It is the TTFF’s role- indeed it is their duty- to seek the best interests of our nation’s football at all times. In the post- 2006 period, a transition/succession plan ought to have been put in place immediately, if not sooner, to manage the structured replacement of the aforementioned stars and thus the consistency of the team’s performances- as younger legs and hearts systematically relieved them of duty. Instead, the heroes were unofficially blacklisted and the national team hung in limbo for several months. Beenhakker was wise to the debacle and exited before the proverbial substance hit the fan, leaving his countryman Willy Rijsbergen holding the empty reins after the horses had all bolted.

This country paid in full for that period of stagnation; the qualifying campaign for South Africa 2010 will go down in history as one of the nation’s most deplorable efforts, if it could be described as such. But have our officials learned? Latapy was thrown in during the death throes of that wretched campaign, and kept on as head coach in the aftermath; but the real issues were never addressed. To date, no succession system exists- a system whereby an under-18 player can fit into the Under-21 squad, an under-21 can walk into the Under-23s and an under-23 can join the senior squad. Trinidad and Tobago continues to prepare teams- scouting for players and arbitrarily selecting a coach whenever a tournament is coming around: CONCACAF Under-17, Under-23, Digicel Cup, Gold Cup, World Cup- you name it, the approach remains unchanged. It could be described as a “jump in and hope” system- one does not know whether a net exists below- one merely assumes it is there.

That is what makes the recent ultimatum from the powers that be almost laughable- except that the situation hurts all citizens with national pride, whether or not we love sport. To some extent, Messrs. Warner and Roberts are absolutely correct; in the European leagues, in the national teams of all the world football powers, when a manager is sacked, his replacement is expected, in fact required to produce desired results almost immediately. But that is because the player options are always there- the manager merely has to cut and paste to suit his plans. It is this adaptability, if you will, that ultimately separates the world powers from the minnows of football. Trinidad and Tobago, like most of the Caribbean, has no such system in place; therefore changing coaches cannot be expected to produce the miracle the authorities are hoping for. Having talent is one thing; harnessing it is quite another. As a country, we may actually be producing more potentially talented ten-year-olds per capita than England or Spain; but we have no system for nurturing that talent, preventing the best from falling through the cracks and ensuring that they all can fit in when moved up to higher levels.

As I noted from the outset in this piece, our administrators appear at times to be wearing blinkers, able to focus only on one aspect of the problem, intoxicated by the lone success amidst years of switching coaches, blinded from the other key elements that made the Germany 2006 dream come true.

Lest my message be misread, it must be made clear that this is not a defence for Latapy; there are probably other coaches who would have gleaned better results in the time the Little Magician has had with this team- a win against the Cubans certainly, and perhaps a win or a draw at home to Jamaica. What really disturbs is the talk about World Cup qualifying and time to prepare. Surely ministers Warner and Roberts were referring to the 2018 qualifying campaign.

Meanwhile, the Corbeaux, patiently circling Latapy’s death camp for months, are finally beginning their descent. Those with eyes to see would not have overlooked the resistance he encountered from certain Pro League clubs whenever a national team practice was scheduled. It was no coincidence that certain players were never made available to him in preparation. Sure enough, at least one coach from those very clubs was openly critical when those same players were overlooked for the Digicel campaign, as Latapy quite correctly stuck with those with whom he had been working, and added a couple of others campaigning in the US.

The TTFF did not intervene when access to those players was being denied, but they are listening to Latapy’s critics today. The day after the loss to the Cubans, Jabloteh coach Terry Fenwick spared no words as he waded into Latapy’s handling of the team, and his tactics. Others with national coaching ambitions have been more restrained- they are not foreigners and therefore must tread carefully.

Foreigners fare differently in this land where local is another word for “to be trampled upon”. It is undeniable that Beenhakker achieved his mission, but the list of imported coaches who failed us miserably is long. Among them are Porterfield, Araujo, Onigbinde, Simoes and Maturana; they were all paid handsomely and afforded every convenience in blind hope, despite mounting evidence to the contrary. For them, Mr. Warner used his considerable clout to pressure British clubs into releasing our leading pros within FIFA-stipulated times, and the local clubs would not even dare to consider withholding their players from a foreign national coach.

It remains to be seen whether Fenwick will be granted his unspoken wish; neutral observers are already pointing to his inability to repeat the success he once enjoyed in the Pro League, now that Jabloteh can no longer draw upon the finances of CLICO to raid the cupboards of rival clubs. Whatever happens, it is a fait accompli that Latapy can start packing his bags, regardless of the outcomes in the remaining matches at the Digicel Finals. It is equally to be anticipated that a stranger from either Europe or South America will take over the reins just before the start of World Cup qualifying in 2012. After all, that is how they operate in the big countries, and we want to rank among them. As my old coach used to say, we are missing the bigger picture. Some things never change.

Alyuh applauding this article, and as much I normally respect Ashford jackman's opinion, he sounding a bit grumpy and unfocused here..

Our 2010 WCQ was one of the worst qualifying processes we ever went thru? We regularly qualify for the WC? beat the US? Draw away to Guatemala? I dunno, I must have been born in the wrong era of Trini football.

Secondly, his "idea" about the lack of a succession plan is flawed. He conveniently forgets that the U-17 sqaud that went to world Cup in 2007 formed the core of the U-20 squad that went the World Cup in 2009. I just saying that they also happen to form the core of the current u-23 squad. So.....

Also Daniel Cyrus, Robert Primus, Shadon Winchester, Akeem Adams are all youth players who've found their way around the senior national squad...

And that was a cheap shot at Terry Fenwick as well...

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Football / Re: SWO T&T Team of the Month

« on: December 06, 2010, 08:06:09 PM »

Kevon Neaves - Rips up the Super League week in, week out, scored 14-goals from midfield for his team T&TEC who seemingly have a wealth of talent in their team's arsenal. Neaves combines well and is surrounded by great talent such as Anthony Noreiga, Dwight Crichlow, Keeron Benito, Bevon Bass, Bevon Lewis and Sylvester Teesdale. This is surely a good recipe for success, hence the reason they are currently league leaders. Now if the powers that be would initiate a promotion/relegation system for the Super League/Pro League respectively- the former Köping FF and 2005 SSFL 'player of the year' Kevon Neaves would have gotten a chance to showcase his talent at a higher level and probably break into the T&T senior team. Neaves has one solitary cap for his country, when he made his debut under former T&T hero coach Leo Beenhakker, in a 2-0 victory over Iceland in 2006.

 

Or he could sign for a pro league team ...

Also, that we're basing someone's national team credentials on the fact that their tearing up the super league reflects a pretty sad state of affairs for our football.

My question since he started playing for T&TEC is..how does a player going from being on the fringe of the WC team and playing professionally in Sweden and end up playing in the Super League, particularly since he should been in his prime at 26/27....

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Football / Re: The Difference between Brazil's 4-2-3-1 & The European 4-2-3-1

« on: November 30, 2010, 09:48:56 PM »

good topic, i noted long ago people on this board don't pay attention to tactics apart from simplying identifying a formation...

that being said I wondered how our squad would work using New Zealand's "Defensive" 3-4-3, that they used in the world cup

With Wingbacks like Carlos and Jloyd Samuel who are responsible enough on the defensive end and the proper two defensive midfielders, i think we'd be a handful in Concacaf with it...

Yuh name de wingbacks and de midfielders but which 3 defenders yuh putting in dey. Dat go be de problem.  As I understand it most teams playing 3 at de back does put 3 central defenders, we having problems finding 2. I eh know if dat could work. But den I doh get paid to figure dese tings out. To paraphrase Deeks, de formation doh matter if de players available cyah play de required roles.

James, Marshall, Primus, Cyrus even Abu Bakr... the Defensive Mids in the formation more important than the CBs for this formation to work..trust me...

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Football / Re: The Difference between Brazil's 4-2-3-1 & The European 4-2-3-1

« on: November 28, 2010, 05:54:15 PM »

good topic, i noted long ago people on this board don't pay attention to tactics apart from simplying identifying a formation...

that being said I wondered how our squad would work using New Zealand's "Defensive" 3-4-3, that they used in the world cup

With Wingbacks like Carlos and Jloyd Samuel who are responsible enough on the defensive end and the proper two defensive midfielders, i think we'd be a handful in Concacaf with it...

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Football / Re: Messi and Ronaldo, rivals in greatness.

« on: November 27, 2010, 05:43:40 PM »

Messi would be destroyed in the EPL

that was unnecessary 

she said EPL.. not one game against United...

and the previous year he didnt make a note in the CL semi final 2 legs...

anyway..back to the point of this thread

Messi is a better passer of the ball...Cristiano is more about drive and attacking space... Messi's sublime composure and passing ability and vision makes him different to Cristiano... Ronaldo is a better striker/winger..Messi is a better attacking midfielder... its very hard to compare two different players but they are the best at what they do... Messi to me is better...and to many people as well... he's class but Ronaldo isnt that far off...it's no one horse race

That game on Monday shall be epic...

Far as i remember apart from Paul Scholes scorcher and a very busy Van Der Sar, Man u wasn't saying anything either.

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Football / Re: Fenwick: T&T lacked commitment and coaching ideas.

« on: November 27, 2010, 05:40:33 PM »

Cuba were made to look good only because we were so bad, we have good players looking awful because they haven't been coached or informed of their responsibility within the team structure.....  very basic organization is missing."

"Grenada and Martinique looked poor to me, T&T should beat both of these sides but I just don't believe the players have any spirit or confidence in Russell, it could go very wrong if we don't get off to a good start against the next team, ended Fenwick."

I have been saying this forever, yet everytime we lose on here, everybody argues about who we pick. granted that might help plaster the sore due to the experience of the player, it does not hide the fact that tactical the bench is not in the game.

bringing back a Birchall would make him look just as bad in the current setup.

                                      THE PSYCHO-ANLYSIS OF A YOUNG TEAM.
In trying to get a young team to conform to a standard of football they are not accustomed to as yet takes time, and time is not what Latas has.

It seems Latas has not learned from previous managers of T&T football and even in Jamaica who tried to go the local route in rebuilding the national team but failed.
Losing to Cuba was not surprising; an experience team will have a psychological edge most of time over a young team.

An experience player knows what it takes mentally to play international football. To make the necessary adjustments throughout the course of a game and not get confuse with respect to what the opponent is doing.

On the other hand the inexperience player gets confused easily; he’s in unfamiliar territory and finds it difficult to adjust. When he looks around it’s happening to most of his team mates.

What’s he to do tell the players to give him the ball, or to slow down the pace, or say to his team mates make short passes instead of long ones, we need to be more compact defensively etc? A young player does not assume this kind of responsibility of being the coach on the field; he’s having enough trouble worrying about how he’s playing.

Of all the positions on the field no coach can compromise having too many inexperience players in midfield much less having mostly inexperience players as in this case with Latas picks. This is the engine room, can‘t compromise there. 

Latas should have learnt a while back when his team struggled against weaker Caribbean teams, that the local base players are not ready for top flight football; that they needed to be groomed for top flight football not
just inserted into it indiscriminately.

i agree to a point, but other coaches have taken local players and had them raise their level sufficently. Cuba, as much as i respect their level is not a superior team to us. local based or not.

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General Discussion / Re: Cartoon Network

« on: November 22, 2010, 05:26:45 PM »

but alot of cartoons have been takin on an a more adult slant long time now, since d ninties inf fact might not be as outward as dis but you have seen everyting from deeper more detailed story telling to clever an not so clever sexual innuendo in fact d general idea has been "cartoons dat kids can ALSO watch" for a long time in fact I never really take dat show much, but it have someting overtly adult about sponge bob.........wide demographic appeal is someting plenty cartoon goin for ........whether parents like it or not.............fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective....................I am a toon fan dat hate "family fun type kiddie toons" since I was............well.....ah kid so.

I know what yuh mean lefty, buh when I say adult, i wouldn't say blatant adult as this, like i was watching this on Cartoon Network the first time and was like, this show belongs in adult swim more than mainstream cartoon network...

But it is a good show imo..

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General Discussion / Re: Cartoon Network

« on: November 22, 2010, 01:42:54 PM »

edit: cartoon network rel change

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7G8GGVWqvjM&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/7G8GGVWqvjM&amp;</a>

Symbionic Titan is probably on of the better new shows come out on CN in a long time, when I first watched I was surprised at how adult some of the content was...

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Football / Re: 5 years ago....RIGHT NOW.....what were you doing?

« on: November 15, 2010, 05:49:00 PM »

Studying how I was gonna watch the game at work...

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General Discussion / Re: FAZEER FIRED/ PP VERSION DOWNSIZED

« on: November 09, 2010, 11:10:00 PM »

Here's a  take:

http://pedrotercero.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/the-fatal-error-fazeergate/

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Football / Re: When was the last time we

« on: November 07, 2010, 10:54:23 AM »

Too soon, people also underestimate that believe or not, we're not that easy to beat at home...especially against Caribbean opposition not named Jamaica or Martinique.

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Game (06-Nov-10).

« on: November 06, 2010, 06:46:04 PM »

Is this a sign of things to come or just a lil reimbursement for the past months gone by. Then to go back into our sh*&ty state. I hope its the former. Well done. First game was our toughest

Expect a big jump in the FIFA rankings, especially since these are actually competitive games as opposed to "friendly internationals".

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Football / Re: Is Samuel Eto'o the world's best striker?

« on: November 06, 2010, 02:12:21 PM »

No.


The world's best striker currently is Gonzalo Higuain

LOLLLLLL

Eto'o hands down is the best striker in the world currently...followed by Drogba

I dont rate Higuain at all...I think he is very lazy and technically poor and his overall contribution is poor compared to most strikers....  He is a better version of Inzahgi.. to be fair he scores goals but they have more strikers out there with goals and overall ability than Higuain ....

I agree that Eto'o is best striker in world...but I urge you to reconsider your stance on Higuain...really...

Gonzo is one of the top 5 strikers in the world..with ease...

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Football / Re: Out of all the Caribbean teams who went WC.

« on: November 03, 2010, 07:18:26 PM »

Out of all the Caribbean teams who went to the World Cup (T&T, Cuba, Haiti and Jamaica).

Who allyuh feel was in the group of death.

Not sure if we can count Cuba as they was in a group with just one team at the time.

2006
Trinidad and Tobago
England
Sweden
Paraguay

1974
Poland
Haiti
Argentina
Italy

1998
Argentina
Japan
Jamaica
Croatia

1938 (First Round)
Cuba
Romania
1938 (Second Round)
Cuba
Sweden

PS: I didn't know India actually qualify for a World Cup (1950) but withdrew ?

I would think Haiti's... that looks very tough...karma for robbing us though

and surely our Group was tougher than the yellow and black scum...no excuse on our part for no goals etc but we had organization and were never embarrassed... all 3 teams were better teams...but we held our own in each... had we played Japan and Croatia(in 98 state ie being first timers) I think we would have beaten Japan and either lost or drew to Croatia...

Croatia and Japan were 1st timers as well as Yardies... they got a relatively easy group with Argentina being the number 1 seed...what they get from Argentina? 5 or 6?

remember when England destroyed them 6-0 before the 2006 cup...in preparation for us lol..

That Croatia team in '98 wasn't no joke, Davor Suker, Boban, Prosinecki, Simic etc anybody who watched  Euro '96 knew they were gonna cause it in the WC... The didn't come third by a fluke small mag

Your reasoning is flawed here Small Magician.

First, Croatia is Yugoslavia rebranded....yup, the country's name was new, but their football was by no means a stranger to world cup finals. Davor Suker, Zvonimir Boban, Robert ProcinesKi etc were all dominant players in europe at the time, no surprise that they went on finishing 3rd at France 98. Most of Croatias players played for the former yugoslavia. Japan was the weakest team in the group, and were rightfully put in its place by whitmore's Brace.

And to say T&Ts group was tougher than Jamaica's group is debatable. Jamaicas group had the third placed finisher in Croatia, while both teams from T&T's group got knocked out at the quarter finals stage. Anyone with football knowledge will tell you that both 1998 Croatia and Argentina are better than 2006 Sweden and Paraguay respectively hands down.





 

Maybe, but Paraguay is definitely no Japan, and 2006 England was better 1998 England who were unlucky to not beat Argentina in 1998. And '06 Sweden could box with '98 Croatia as well so I'd say we had a tougher group overall Reggae fan but Haiti had the toughest run hands down...

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs St Vincent (02-Nov-10).

« on: November 02, 2010, 07:42:24 PM »

Since Avery John, Trinidad and Tobago have not used anyone born after 1976 with a left foot at left back. But Joevin Jones looks like he might be the one. Of course it might not be Joevin Jones. Jovin Jones looks good too. Another young player with a TTFF Godfather.

Isn't Akeem Adams left-footed?

What about Marlon Rojas as well?

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General Discussion / Re: Irresponsibility of the highest order...

« on: November 02, 2010, 01:01:00 PM »

Any comment with regard to this?



NO FREE HELP


PM to assist neighbours hit by Tomas but...

By Ria Taitt Political Editor


No help for Caricom countries hit by Tropical Storm Tomas without benefits to Trinidad and Tobago.
This was made clear by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar yesterday.
She said Trinidad and Tobago stands ready to assist its Caricom neighbours but she stipulated that any aid would only come after discussions with her Cabinet colleagues as well as the Opposition Leader, and must in some measure benefit the country.
Speaking at a news conference at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's, Persad-Bissessar said she has received a call from the Prime Minister of St Vincent while Foreign Affairs Minister Suruj Rambachan had been in contact with his counterparts in Barbados and St Lucia, territories in the region which have been hit by Tomas.
She said she intended to speak to her Cabinet colleagues as well as the Leader of the Opposition to see what relief this country could give to the other Caribbean islands.
"We will have to look at ways in which we would be able to assist. But you would recall my comments earlier this year, when I said there must some way in which Trinidad and Tobago would also benefit. So if we are giving assistance with housing for example, and that is one of the areas that we (Prime Minister of St Vincent and myself ) spoke about, ... then we may be able to use Trinidad and Tobago builders and companies, so that whatever money or assistance is given, redounds back in some measure to the people of Trinidad and Tobago," she said.
She said this is why she intends to approach her Cabinet colleagues as well as the Leader of the Opposition with this proposal—to marry the benefit to Trinidad and Tobago while giving assistance to those islands that have been very badly hit.
The Manning government had been severely criticised by Trinidad and Tobago nationals for giving assistance to Caribbean countries especially in non-emergency situations.
Persad-Bissessar said it was St Vincent Prime Minister Dr Ralph Gonsalves who reported to her that that island was devastated. He revealed that over 600 homes were completely destroyed, infrastructure damaged and the agricultural sector ravaged, she said. "The Prime Minister indicated that not a plantain or banana tree was standing," Persad-Bissessar added.
She said Barbados and St Lucia were doing a needs assessment and Gonsalves had indicated that he would do something in writing when that country conducts its needs assessment.
She said the Government had already mobilised through the Minister of Local Government, two containers of foodstuff, and it would make a decision where to send it but "certainly to St Vincent".
Noting that the news suggested that the storm was heading to Haiti, she said it was tragic since Haiti was pounded in so many ways. She said if this is the case, Government would have to consider assistance to Haiti again. "But it would do nothing unless the Cabinet discusses it and the Leader of the Opposition is consulted," she stressed.

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General Discussion / Re: Irresponsibility of the highest order...

« on: November 01, 2010, 10:09:01 AM »

While it is gross and un-necessary party Politics, Rowley has a point.

THE ODPM did shit, and Friday should not have happened the way it did...A premature panic was created and we had un-necessary traffic and sent home workers for next to no reason.

What's worse is that so many Trinidadians don't know how to react to various warnings with regards to Hurricanes etc, there is a difference between watch, warning and alert..The ODPM made us operate like we were on alert when we should have been at least on warning...

Arazi, yuh self like yuh confused about what means what....I eh know what alert yuh talking about....

A Tropical Storm/Hurricane WATCH means the weather system MAY impact an area within 24 hours....

A Tropical Storm/Hurricane WARNING means the weather system WILL affect an area within 24 hours...

Now while I vex that the damn non-storm mess up my Friday night, when I saw the grapic Dinho had up and I checked other weather channels I could see why the Met Office/ODPM would have put us on a WARNING as opposed to a WATCH....

The problem with these systems is that they can move unpredictibly some times and in this case it appears as though the ODPM/Met office got it wrong but not because of what they did but rather because the storm shifted a little at the last minute.  I can't fault the authorities for the actions they took.  Having lived through Ivan I can tell you, that storm was heading straight for Tobago and then at the last minute literally moved a little to the North and mash up Grenada instead.....I can't fault the authorities for the actions they took back then any more than I can fault them now.....

Just say amen we were spared again.....or next time they issue a warning ignore it, go about yuh business like normal and pray God is really ah Trini.......

Thanks, i did err in m post...

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General Discussion / Re: Irresponsibility of the highest order...

« on: October 31, 2010, 08:30:56 AM »

I almost could not believe what I was reading when I read this....


Rowley rips into Kamla over storm 'shutdown'

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Rowley_rips_into_Kamla_over_storm__shutdown_-106388748.html

OPPOSITION Leader Keith Rowley has accused the government of "over-reacting" to Tropical Storm Tomas, saying Friday's nationwide shutdown cost the country more than a storm would have.

Speaking at the People's National Movement (PNM) Women's League seminar at Balisier House, Port of Spain, yesterday morning, Rowley was critical of Prime Minister Kamla Persad Bissessar's handling of the storm warnings but assured the gathering that he was in no way "anti-woman".

Rowley said the entire country was shut down "because of a cloud".

Meteorological warnings early Friday that Trinidad and Tobago was possibly in the path of Tomas resulted in schools, public offices and most businesses being closed by midday, on Persad-Bissessar's advice.

Many events planned for later that night were also cancelled, including a number of Divali celebrations at constituency offices, community grounds and private businesses.

Around 9.30 p.m. Friday, Persad-Bissessar also led several government ministers in a press conference, which was televised live, to assure citizens that the emergency gears were ready to turn should the night bring severely adverse weather conditions.

By that time, the Meteorological Office at Piarco had advised that while Trinidad was not in line with the eye of the storm, it could still feel the effects of the system's "feeder bands". Tobago was said to have been in greater danger.

Rowley, who began by saying he was one of many who assumed yesterday's seminar had been cancelled, said he hopes never to see a repeat of Friday's shutdown.

"When I say that because there is a woman in charge, things will automatically go right, I don't want you to think it is because I am anti-woman," Rowley said, stating previously that he was speaking as a husband and father of two daughters, of whom he thought highly.

"But the country was shut down since yesterday morning because we overreacted to a cloud."

Stating that it was a "governance issue", Rowley went on to accuse the Government of using the recent floods around the country to "play themselves" before the public as do-gooders.

He then said that had there been good governance, the staff of the Office of Disaster Preparedness and Management (ODPM), would not have been humiliated by the Government, with some staff later leaving in disgrace.

Many new staff members, in their efforts to please the government, he said, also overreacted on Friday.

"In their desperation to please, they shut the country down since yesterday morning, causing millions of dollars in losses—more than what would have been caused by a storm," Rowley said.

He also said business professionals should use their judgment and not be taken by the drama that occurred on Friday, in their efforts to pander to politicians.

Rowley added that his constituency, Diego Martin West, was particularly displeased at having to cancel a fund-raiser that was being held by the charity group, Friends of Diego Martin West.

The event included an excursion on a small sailing vessel into the Gulf of Paria on Friday night but was put off after they were warned not to go far from the Port.

"We suffered losses," Rowley said, later adding:

"I hope that every time it looks like it's going to rain we will not shut the country down and be subjected to a 20-minute speech by the Prime Minister, who clearly is not in charge of the situation."

While it is gross and un-necessary party Politics, Rowley has a point.

THE ODPM did shit, and Friday should not have happened the way it did...A premature panic was created and we had un-necessary traffic and sent home workers for next to no reason.

What's worse is that so many Trinidadians don't know how to react to various warnings with regards to Hurricanes etc, there is a difference between watch, warning and alert..The ODPM made us operate like we were on alert when we should have been at least on warning...

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Football / Re: Spaniards dominate FIFA Ballon d'Or shortlist

« on: October 27, 2010, 09:12:49 PM »

I dunno what going on with alyuh, but the prize should go to Wesley Sneijder..influential in both winning the champion's league and taking his team to the World Cup final..and Small Mag I feel yuh, Rooney have a case...

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Football / Re: The Stoke City Forever Thread

« on: October 25, 2010, 12:47:40 PM »

Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!!  Wha Heskey does handle?!!  He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL?  I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).

Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!!  Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out?  Tevez?!!  Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!!  WDFIRHIT?!!  Steups!!!

JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here.  Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically.  While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.

Umm..in all fairness, Tevez does take rel physical play too eh and even if the level may in your opinion be less than Kenwyne is given, for Tevez's size the amount of fight he puts into battling off physically bigger defenders is twice what KJ does, I honestly don't think that was a bad person to compare in terms of physicality...

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Blazer Dan shot

« on: October 22, 2010, 12:37:00 PM »

Can anyone confrim this? I reading on people's status that he got shot in his face and died.

yeh he was gunned down at his home in enterprise this morning, there's a thread about it in the entertainment section. he and his cousin were shot by masked gunmen who stormed his home. His cousin in hospital according to news reports

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Blazer

« on: October 22, 2010, 12:14:15 PM »

dais not de fellah always in badman ting?...or at least, use to be?

or is it somebody else ah thinkin bout

take a read:
http://pedrotercero.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/another-wasted-talent/

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Football / Re: Latapy set improbable task.

« on: October 18, 2010, 06:28:39 AM »

Allyuh memory short or what??  under maturana we sucked rotten eggs!! first off , not only was he ah terrible coach, but he was also ah nut!!!!

the man experimented with about 100 players, with every other game almost ah different squad! and with all that experimenting players liek tinto , hector and trent noel was getting left out for lesser players.

i remember the bermuda game when we was losing, the man started the game with three defenders, kareem smith tallest and makan, bermuda was having ah field day and scored twice, but the dum dum stayed with the formation and brought in steve david as his first sub when he was supposed to bring in ah defender to absorb some of the attacks.

when bermuda layed back and decided to hold out for the win , then he brought in ah defender in ancil farrier! this was infuriating, when he was supposed to bring in ah offensive player the dummy brought in ah defender!, 


darryl roberts was left on the bench when scotland was obviously in the defenders back pocket and could evade the center half.

he then went to bermuda and got it right playing with four defenders, switching ince wid Jan, smith with telesford, switching scotty and stern with roberts and the big striker(forgot his name for now) using stern as ah super sub, and we got the result we wanted, only tuh have the man revert back to his madness!!

same with the degicel, the man went and unearthen dwarika and some other out dated players, causing us to miss the gold cup for the first time in our history.

i say the culprits is jack and camps, not latas so much , BC latas try ah ting and they obliged him!

BTW, manturana was ah nut!!! he was never good for our football!               allyuh mad!

my memory isn't short so I can say your memory is terrible.

Yes, we lost to Bermuda, but how did we lose to Bermuda? It din have a pre match scandal wrt to the use of Hasely Crawford that forced the game to be played at the Marvin Lee?

What about the fact that Bermuda's winning goal was scored with Clayton Ince lying unconscious in the penalty area?

What about the fact that Bermuda essentially packed their defense after that and despite that Scotland, Carlos and Stern all had glorious opportunities to score which they wasted.

So the tactical changes which he made in the second leg means what? he wasn't the coach for the 2nd leg or wha?

As for Digi Cup, he brought back Dwarika (based on  his form in the Pro League) for the Pre-lim games (which were also played in Trinidad), which we cruised through.

Dwarika was not in the squad for the Digi cup finals in Jamaica. However some of you favourites like Julius James among others were in the squad and they played and played poorly allowing us to lose to Grenada.

It also was not the first time we did not qualify for the Gold Cup.

Now for the various players he tried, amazingly he found a core group by the time WC qualifying came around. And by that time he still managed to have and still does have a winning record.

If i was a coach I'd like my team to suck rotten eggs like that, cuz Latapy have us looking like well done bacon ready to be eaten.
Get some Ginko before you post next time.

Were you there in the marvin lee for that game ? BC i was!! first off , it wasn't clayton ince fault that the goal scored, but the defense.

 ince got knocked out cold for ah while when he was fouled and the ref refused to stop the play , all the defenders stopped and the bermudan scored despite ince's injury!

the bermudans packed the defense after the 2nd goal just like i said in my post, so what's the fackin problem??

so leh we cut to the chase! beenie had stern john , carlos and tallest for the WCQ 2006, and pancho had the same players, but pancho sucked, which makes me think yuhs ah real bone head for saying JJ was on pancho's team , the same JJ whom i lobby for!

the fact was , this coach must have experimented with about 100 player or more and he never got no where with all his experimentation. i refuse to believe it was juliu's fault we didn't make it to the GC, but the mad coach who didn't have ah fackin clue, and so do you!!!

Ah yes Cool, you are one of the strongest ones of the 80% who know better than everyone.

Your plate of crow is still in the same place it has been since Mats quit with his winning record (despite politics, undermining, unfit national team players with no clubs), Latapy has been keeping it warm for you.

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Football / Re: Latapy set improbable task.

« on: October 17, 2010, 07:23:06 PM »

Allyuh memory short or what??  under maturana we sucked rotten eggs!! first off , not only was he ah terrible coach, but he was also ah nut!!!!

the man experimented with about 100 players, with every other game almost ah different squad! and with all that experimenting players liek tinto , hector and trent noel was getting left out for lesser players.

i remember the bermuda game when we was losing, the man started the game with three defenders, kareem smith tallest and makan, bermuda was having ah field day and scored twice, but the dum dum stayed with the formation and brought in steve david as his first sub when he was supposed to bring in ah defender to absorb some of the attacks.

when bermuda layed back and decided to hold out for the win , then he brought in ah defender in ancil farrier! this was infuriating, when he was supposed to bring in ah offensive player the dummy brought in ah defender!, 


darryl roberts was left on the bench when scotland was obviously in the defenders back pocket and could evade the center half.

he then went to bermuda and got it right playing with four defenders, switching ince wid Jan, smith with telesford, switching scotty and stern with roberts and the big striker(forgot his name for now) using stern as ah super sub, and we got the result we wanted, only tuh have the man revert back to his madness!!

same with the degicel, the man went and unearthen dwarika and some other out dated players, causing us to miss the gold cup for the first time in our history.

i say the culprits is jack and camps, not latas so much , BC latas try ah ting and they obliged him!

BTW, manturana was ah nut!!! he was never good for our football!               allyuh mad!

my memory isn't short so I can say your memory is terrible.

Yes, we lost to Bermuda, but how did we lose to Bermuda? It din have a pre match scandal wrt to the use of Hasely Crawford that forced the game to be played at the Marvin Lee?

What about the fact that Bermuda's winning goal was scored with Clayton Ince lying unconscious in the penalty area?

What about the fact that Bermuda essentially packed their defense after that and despite that Scotland, Carlos and Stern all had glorious opportunities to score which they wasted.

So the tactical changes which he made in the second leg means what? he wasn't the coach for the 2nd leg or wha?

As for Digi Cup, he brought back Dwarika (based on  his form in the Pro League) for the Pre-lim games (which were also played in Trinidad), which we cruised through.

Dwarika was not in the squad for the Digi cup finals in Jamaica. However some of you favourites like Julius James among others were in the squad and they played and played poorly allowing us to lose to Grenada.

It also was not the first time we did not qualify for the Gold Cup.

Now for the various players he tried, amazingly he found a core group by the time WC qualifying came around. And by that time he still managed to have and still does have a winning record.

If i was a coach I'd like my team to suck rotten eggs like that, cuz Latapy have us looking like well done bacon ready to be eaten.
Get some Ginko before you post next time.

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Football / Re: Latapy set improbable task.

« on: October 17, 2010, 05:50:24 PM »

So my take on all this is that when Jack brought Maturana in he lulled the T&T football fraternity into a false sense of comfort and complacency. He knew that by bringing in a name it hides all the logical things that should be done.
What development took place or was taking place after we qualified for Germany? None absolutely none. To develop a program means that money has to be invested. There also has to be a pool of players that are constantly being prepared for national team play and these players must be playing quality opponent both at home and abroad.
It was cheaper to pay Maturana than implement a proper plan. Now knowing that the chances of qualification were slim Latapy was brought in to serve two purposes. One take focus away from what the real issue is and that is lack of development and two, create more division amongst players who were never paid after 06.
Now Latapy being the darling of TNT's football was probably told that he would be the next coach whenever Maturana left and greedily he grabbed that poisoned chalice leaving us where we are today fighting over whether or not the coach is good.

This is so much BS.

First of Maturana did attempt to enforce a developmental structure in our football. He gave several youngsters extended runs in the national squad, he even handed a 16-year old Akeem Adams a debut away Jamaica. He did overlook the progress of the youth teams including the u-20 squad that went to Egypt.

But while he was blooding youths, us know better than everybody Trinidadians was saying why he should pick that inexperienced "insert adjective for shit hound here" when we still have great players like Aurtis and dem other blacklisted players (regardless of form or conditioning). People practically begged for Yorke and Latapy and all others to come back on this board and felt players like Hyland and Daniel should be nowhere near the team.

Did the people who felt that way think they were stunting development then?

The fact is 80% of this board was wrong about Maturana and 80% of alyuh still trying to duck the crow alyuh supposed to be eating.

So let me here the next reason he was bad so alyuh wouldn't feel alyuh was wrong.