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General Discussion / Re: *&^%$!!
« on: December 09, 2008, 05:37:23 PM »
Oh and with an IQ of 75 he is a damn beh-beh man...well very close..so he damn well retarded.
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General Discussion / Re: *&^%$!!
« on: December 09, 2008, 05:34:18 PM »Quote
A psychiatric assessment arranged by his lawyer, Gina Da Fonte, shows Thomas has an IQ of 75 and functions at a lower level than a 9-year-old child.[/b]
Lynn Connolly, program manager with the city's municipal child-care services, said in an interview that Thomas came as a student placement from the Toronto District School Board.
She said the fact that someone is low-functioning does not make them ineligible as a student placement.
Blevins did a criminal reference check on Thomas, she said.
Since the incident, she said, Blevins makes sure everyone wears badges to show if they are volunteers, staff or student placements so parents know who is who.
Thomas's low intelligence and lack of a place to live are risk factors when released, but he has already served the equivalent of almost 3 1/2 years in jail awaiting trial, prosecutor Jill Witkin told reporters. The Salvation Army had a bed waiting for him yesterday.
"The court and the Crown were in a difficult position. You can't hold somebody in custody indefinitely," Witkin said.
The sentence was within the expected range for a man with no prior criminal record and who pleaded guilty for such crimes, Witkin said.
It is hardly likely that the man even knows what he did was wrong. I am sure his admission of guilt and apology was prompted by his defense team.
anyway, he is a low functioning individual that did harm to children. I am much more forgiving of him than I am of those stinking Catholic Priests.
He passed a background check and was placed there by the school system.
What a thing eh, so now those with developmental disabilities are now to be discrimiated because of their looks and IQ's.
And that my friend can be equated to segregrating against someone based on skin color!
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General Discussion / Re: *&^%$!!
« on: December 09, 2008, 02:20:41 PM »come on now lady, you are really getting too emotional and carried away....but look at the man nuh? Somebody saw him and thought "Gee he'd be perfect to work in a daycare"?
steupse
You decided that he was unfit from a mug shot?
Come on, maybe he had sterling referrals and credentials...happens all the time.
Your comment reminds me of the days when black people were disqualified based on their skin colour.
Just look at the number of Catholic Proests convicted of the same crimes, and just how did those child rapers look?
I am appalled at teh crime, but lets not get carried away here.
Not at all...and comparing Black folks to child molesters isn't a leap I'm prepared to make with you.
His IQ and his look would have given me SERIOUS pause in hiring him to work with children.
As far as I see it, anyone working with children should be put through the wringer for mental capabilities. Yes some can pass that radar easily but I doubt he would. Many of those Catholic priests would have failed psychoanalysis.
Am I judging him on his appearance...oh HECK yes...if he were an employee at my child's daycare I would be asking the administrator a lot of questions. I am pro-active in these things. This is not my car or a pair of shoes, this is my child and you better believe I'd be making snap judgements on who deals with them. I fully intend to get carried away.
No one is comparing child molesters to black people.
you proclaimed that you would have disqualified him based on his mug shot. I merely pointed out that black people were often disqualified based on their skin color..it was an analogy.
you look at a picture of a man taken during an arrest or so and realistically think that is what he looks like when he is not under extreme pressure.
You say that his IQ and his look would give you reason for pause, just what is that man's IQ? And you also stated that many Catholic priests would have failed psychoanalysis, that is untrue.
Most people face psychoanalysis only after they have committed some sort of act that leads a reasonable thinking person to surmise that they have a mental affliction.
MOST child care facilities and schools do a complete background check, to include criminal records to determine the eligibility of an applicant for a position.
Without knowing for certain, how can they just disqualify a person for a position based on looks?
additionally, parents have to trust schools and day care facilities to do a background check of employees and prospective employees.
I am sure it is proper to ask if employees are screened before employment, and if they are not, then any right thinking parent would seek and alternate place to school their children.
I think that your rage is misplaced. The judge who sentenced this man to probation is at fault. Aim your rage at him too!
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General Discussion / Re: Nagging wife, sausage
« on: December 09, 2008, 12:41:09 PM »
Maybe he slipped her the sausage and kept it quiet;)
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General Discussion / Nagging wife, sausage
« on: December 09, 2008, 12:34:31 PM »
Nagging wife, sausage help man win lottery
Young New Zealand couple says they've had a 'rough' couple of years
WELLINGTON, New Zealand - A "nagging" wife who pushed her husband to buy a lottery ticket helped scoop the $4.2 million ($7.7 million New Zealand dollar) first prize — with only minutes to spare. The man from New Zealand's biggest city, Auckland, bought his ticket just two minutes before ticket sales closed Saturday night.
"My wife had been nagging me all week to get a ticket, so I when saw the Lotto sign ... I sprinted in to get the ticket before they closed," said the man, who asked not to be identified — normal practice among lottery winners in New Zealand.
"I must have been their last customer of the night," he said, adding that the young married couple had had a "rough" couple of years, reduced to one income after having children.
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"I have never been so glad to listen to my wife's nagging," the man said Tuesday.
He discovered their newly won fortune Sunday thanks to his wife's request for a barbecued sausage.
'All I wanted was a sausage'
Out shopping for bargains, the man said he didn't have enough money to buy his wife the sausage she'd asked him for. So he decided to check his Saturday lottery ticket in case he'd won a small prize.
"I could not believe it when they said I was actually the big winner," he said.
When he showed the printout to his wife, she initially thought they had won $4,200.
"When she realized how much it really was, she fell to the floor, and then said: 'but all I wanted was a sausage.'"
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed
Young New Zealand couple says they've had a 'rough' couple of years
WELLINGTON, New Zealand - A "nagging" wife who pushed her husband to buy a lottery ticket helped scoop the $4.2 million ($7.7 million New Zealand dollar) first prize — with only minutes to spare. The man from New Zealand's biggest city, Auckland, bought his ticket just two minutes before ticket sales closed Saturday night.
"My wife had been nagging me all week to get a ticket, so I when saw the Lotto sign ... I sprinted in to get the ticket before they closed," said the man, who asked not to be identified — normal practice among lottery winners in New Zealand.
"I must have been their last customer of the night," he said, adding that the young married couple had had a "rough" couple of years, reduced to one income after having children.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here
"I have never been so glad to listen to my wife's nagging," the man said Tuesday.
He discovered their newly won fortune Sunday thanks to his wife's request for a barbecued sausage.
'All I wanted was a sausage'
Out shopping for bargains, the man said he didn't have enough money to buy his wife the sausage she'd asked him for. So he decided to check his Saturday lottery ticket in case he'd won a small prize.
"I could not believe it when they said I was actually the big winner," he said.
When he showed the printout to his wife, she initially thought they had won $4,200.
"When she realized how much it really was, she fell to the floor, and then said: 'but all I wanted was a sausage.'"
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed
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General Discussion / Re: *&^%$!!
« on: December 09, 2008, 12:31:51 PM »...but look at the man nuh? Somebody saw him and thought "Gee he'd be perfect to work in a daycare"?
steupse
You decided that he was unfit from a mug shot?
Come on, maybe he had sterling referrals and credentials...happens all the time.
Your comment reminds me of the days when black people were disqualified based on their skin colour.
Just look at the number of Catholic Proests convicted of the same crimes, and just how did those child rapers look?
I am appalled at teh crime, but lets not get carried away here.
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General Discussion / Re: Carnage on T&T Roads
« on: December 09, 2008, 12:29:08 PM »
it seems to me that disproportionate number of thoe killed on the roads happen to be of East Indian descent.
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
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Football / Re: Yorke focuses on positives from United game
« on: December 09, 2008, 12:26:18 PM »
And Coops saying that Sunderland playing crap because too many Trinis on the team. What an ass. Like the trinis have been starting and on the field at the same time.
Bakes, Sunderland played crap and is an outright shit side.
Roy Keane spent 70million pounds and the team has no fluidity and the players do not complement each other. As Kev said they approach each game with a negative mindset, let us minimize the pounding and as such play a brand that is very negative.
Instead of playing football and letting the chips fall where they may..as Hull does, they are intent on playing a brand that is based on avoiding a sever cut ass. as a result, they are being beatne before they take the field/
Bakes, Sunderland played crap and is an outright shit side.
Roy Keane spent 70million pounds and the team has no fluidity and the players do not complement each other. As Kev said they approach each game with a negative mindset, let us minimize the pounding and as such play a brand that is very negative.
Instead of playing football and letting the chips fall where they may..as Hull does, they are intent on playing a brand that is based on avoiding a sever cut ass. as a result, they are being beatne before they take the field/
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Football / Re: Yorke focuses on positives from United game
« on: December 09, 2008, 10:27:12 AM »
So fella when are you going to stop talking such unmitigated shit?
LOSE not loose eh, anyway, Sunderland's problem is that they have too many trinis on the team? What an ass you are, you are not even worthy of having a discussion with, because you doh know shit, so why discuss football with you?
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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: December 09, 2008, 10:03:31 AM »
Court: No review of Obama's eligibility to serve
President-elect Barack Obama listens to a reporter's question during a news AP – President-elect Barack Obama listens to a reporter's question during a news conference in Chicago, Sunday, …
WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.
Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.
Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president.
At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and Hawaii officials have confirmed.
Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit. Federal courts in Ohio and Washington state have rejected similar lawsuits.
Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.
But Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the state's registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.
The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.
In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama's birth, including his parents' address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.
(This version CORRECTS that Hawaii officials, not secretary of state, confirmed Obama birth certificate.)
President-elect Barack Obama listens to a reporter's question during a news AP – President-elect Barack Obama listens to a reporter's question during a news conference in Chicago, Sunday, …
WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.
Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.
Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president.
At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and Hawaii officials have confirmed.
Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit. Federal courts in Ohio and Washington state have rejected similar lawsuits.
Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.
But Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the state's registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.
The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.
In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama's birth, including his parents' address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.
(This version CORRECTS that Hawaii officials, not secretary of state, confirmed Obama birth certificate.)
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (07-Dec-2008).
« on: December 08, 2008, 05:33:43 PM »Representing the Caribbean with that team in South Africa when T&T couldn't even beat a little boy's football team from Greneda.When is Ja's first game in the hex again? Oops my bad, Ja is NOT in the hex is it?It eh take much 4 yuh national pride 2 b at a high. Beatin dat team eh no accomplishment boss. Beat we hex team but wait dat go have 2 b 2014 see yaSince the HEX is just another qualifying process my national pride remains intact. And why you keep forgetting that it was a draw with the Reggae Boyz that knocked T&T out of the Gold Cup.
June 2009 will reveal how the "T&T in the HEX" song will continue.
This is big boy football son. There is always 2016.
TnT will represent in the motherland for the Caribbean. Peace
The only thing left for T&T in 2008 is a 9th Caribbean before the 2009 debacle begins in the HEX. OOPS! My bad. I just remember that Jamaica knocked T&T out of the runnings for a 9th title.
Jamaica has won it twice. And how did Jamaica knock out T&T?
Yuh is ah buller or what?
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General Discussion / Re: OJ Get 6 years
« on: December 08, 2008, 04:24:07 PM »
Perfect murder? And he left all that evidence pointing straight at him?
He in no way committed anything close to a perfect murder.
What he got were perfect jackasses prosecuting him.
In fact there was a lot of evidence that was NOT presented becasue the witnesses ahd sold their stories.
And the blood evidence was great for the prosecution.
He in no way committed anything close to a perfect murder.
What he got were perfect jackasses prosecuting him.
In fact there was a lot of evidence that was NOT presented becasue the witnesses ahd sold their stories.
And the blood evidence was great for the prosecution.
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General Discussion / Puppies save three-year-old boy lost in freezing Virginia woods
« on: December 08, 2008, 04:20:45 PM »
BY JANE H. FURSE
DAILY NEWS WRITER
A toddler lost in the Virginia woods was back home safe Sunday thanks to two puppies who kept him warm through a harrowing night of freezing temperatures.
Jaylynn Thorpe, 3, wandered away from his baby-sitter at 4 p.m. Friday and was missing for 21 hours as hundreds of friends, family and law enforcement officials searched for him in the thick woods of Halifax County, fearing the worst.
"The only thing we wanted to do was just keep searching until we found him," Halifax County Sheriff Stanley Noblin told reporters.
Jaylynn's frantic family knew time was not on its side.
"We didn't forget the issue that 17 degrees was almost unbearable," said his father, James Thorpe.
"People all over the State of Virginia was down there looking for that child. For a while there, one time, I didn't know whether they would find him or not," said the child's grandmother and guardian, Katherine Elliot.
Officials said the lost little boy and the two family puppies wandered up to a mile in the dark, even across a highway, but it wasn't until Saturday afternoon that members of the search team found him sitting by a tree, the two puppies nestled against him.
The little boy didn't say anything, according to rescue team member Jerry Gentry, but instead "just opened his arms up like, 'I'm ready to go.'"
"When I first saw him, he was like, 'Momma, I got cold. I slept in the woods last night. The puppies kept me warm.' He told me that ... the dogs slept up against him. And I'm sure the body heat kept him warm," said his mother, Sarah Ingram.
Billie Jo Roach, another member of the search party that found the boy, said the puppies refused to leave his side.
As the child was placed in an ambulance to be taken to a local hospital for examination, "The puppies were watching where he went.
"Where he went, they went," Roach said.
As word went out that the child was alive and well, family members cheered and cried for joy.
"Praise the Lord! Welcome home, Jaylynn!" yelled his aunt, Amy Zimmerman.
Close to 300 people from North Carolina and Virginia joined in the search to find Jaylynn.
"I love you! God bless you," Ingram told the rescue teams.
"I think I just said, 'Thank you Lord' ... for us to have another chance!" said the child's father.
The boy spent Saturday night under observation at Halifax Regional Hospital and chowed down on a double cheeseburger, a hot dog, strawberry ice cream and French fries.
Meanwhile, the furry heroes, their tails wagging, were rewarded with food.
"I definitely call this a miracle," said Noblin.
_________________________
I want all my dam money back mate
DAILY NEWS WRITER
A toddler lost in the Virginia woods was back home safe Sunday thanks to two puppies who kept him warm through a harrowing night of freezing temperatures.
Jaylynn Thorpe, 3, wandered away from his baby-sitter at 4 p.m. Friday and was missing for 21 hours as hundreds of friends, family and law enforcement officials searched for him in the thick woods of Halifax County, fearing the worst.
"The only thing we wanted to do was just keep searching until we found him," Halifax County Sheriff Stanley Noblin told reporters.
Jaylynn's frantic family knew time was not on its side.
"We didn't forget the issue that 17 degrees was almost unbearable," said his father, James Thorpe.
"People all over the State of Virginia was down there looking for that child. For a while there, one time, I didn't know whether they would find him or not," said the child's grandmother and guardian, Katherine Elliot.
Officials said the lost little boy and the two family puppies wandered up to a mile in the dark, even across a highway, but it wasn't until Saturday afternoon that members of the search team found him sitting by a tree, the two puppies nestled against him.
The little boy didn't say anything, according to rescue team member Jerry Gentry, but instead "just opened his arms up like, 'I'm ready to go.'"
"When I first saw him, he was like, 'Momma, I got cold. I slept in the woods last night. The puppies kept me warm.' He told me that ... the dogs slept up against him. And I'm sure the body heat kept him warm," said his mother, Sarah Ingram.
Billie Jo Roach, another member of the search party that found the boy, said the puppies refused to leave his side.
As the child was placed in an ambulance to be taken to a local hospital for examination, "The puppies were watching where he went.
"Where he went, they went," Roach said.
As word went out that the child was alive and well, family members cheered and cried for joy.
"Praise the Lord! Welcome home, Jaylynn!" yelled his aunt, Amy Zimmerman.
Close to 300 people from North Carolina and Virginia joined in the search to find Jaylynn.
"I love you! God bless you," Ingram told the rescue teams.
"I think I just said, 'Thank you Lord' ... for us to have another chance!" said the child's father.
The boy spent Saturday night under observation at Halifax Regional Hospital and chowed down on a double cheeseburger, a hot dog, strawberry ice cream and French fries.
Meanwhile, the furry heroes, their tails wagging, were rewarded with food.
"I definitely call this a miracle," said Noblin.
_________________________
I want all my dam money back mate
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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: December 08, 2008, 04:00:32 PM »
Obama has told his supporters to look beyond his appointments, that the change he promised will come from him and that when his administration comes together they will be happy.
That right there is my biggest worry.
So he surrounds himself with people he says are not going to just be ys men...and now the changs will come from him.
Maybe he needs to read a few pages of the books written about Lincoln's Presidency, you know the one called Abraham?
The one he so often tries to say he is patterning his presidency after!
Oh ah yeah, he has filled his cabinet with one setta hawks...all who ha openly an vociferously supported the ar in Iraq. Nice going, BIG changes are comingz!
As for the veiw that he has chosen competence over ideaology, we will see.
My complaints that he is not liberal enough is not wasted on you, I see. I am not into complaining for th sake of complaining, it is simply the premise that if you lie with dogs, you get fas..or the other one...how does it go?
"Show me your frinds and I will show you who you are!" or something so.
That right there is my biggest worry.
So he surrounds himself with people he says are not going to just be ys men...and now the changs will come from him.
Maybe he needs to read a few pages of the books written about Lincoln's Presidency, you know the one called Abraham?
The one he so often tries to say he is patterning his presidency after!
Oh ah yeah, he has filled his cabinet with one setta hawks...all who ha openly an vociferously supported the ar in Iraq. Nice going, BIG changes are comingz!
As for the veiw that he has chosen competence over ideaology, we will see.
My complaints that he is not liberal enough is not wasted on you, I see. I am not into complaining for th sake of complaining, it is simply the premise that if you lie with dogs, you get fas..or the other one...how does it go?
"Show me your frinds and I will show you who you are!" or something so.
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General Discussion / Re: OJ Get 6 years
« on: December 08, 2008, 07:11:36 AM »
OJ was as guilty as ever!
That bastard got away with murder because of a poor prosecution that took more time to have sex with each other than actually put a good case together.
Darden and Clarke were lovers during the trial. They made a man try to put on a glove over a latex glove that was already on his hand.
And OJ made a great deal of fuss trying to put it on his hand.
Add the fact that Furman was a reknowned racist and Cato a piece of shit witness, OJ walk away
That bastard got away with murder because of a poor prosecution that took more time to have sex with each other than actually put a good case together.
Darden and Clarke were lovers during the trial. They made a man try to put on a glove over a latex glove that was already on his hand.
And OJ made a great deal of fuss trying to put it on his hand.
Add the fact that Furman was a reknowned racist and Cato a piece of shit witness, OJ walk away
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General Discussion / Re: Part II
« on: December 08, 2008, 07:06:24 AM »
The U.N. official and others said that military intervention could have dangerous consequences for Sudan as a whole, as well as the nine countries bordering it.
As venal as many consider Bashir's government to be, it did sign a landmark peace deal that ended a long and bloody civil war between the north and south. If Bashir's government is destabilized, that deal could fall apart, plunging another huge swath of the country into war.
Military intervention could also run the risk of inflaming the Islamists who have been key supporters of Bashir's government, which once hosted Osama bin Laden. In 1998, the Clinton administration bombed a pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum in part because its owners were thought to have ties to bin Laden.
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"Any destabilization of this government and all these Islamist elements will certainly turn into a dangerous force," said Saswat Fanous, a political science professor in Khartoum and ruling party lawmaker. "They will be driven underground, and they will invite in a flood of radical Islamists coming from the region into Sudan."
The U.N. official shared that concern. The conflict in Darfur is just one of many over the past 20 years that essentially pit those in the center against those in the marginalized periphery, he said. The problem at hand is how to build a politically stable, democratic Sudan that shares power broadly among southerners, Darfurians and residents of other regions.
"As revolting as this government may be, they are indispensable to solving the problem of Sudan," the official said. "They are part of the problem and part of the solution. If the Obama administration is going to be driven by anger, then really, really it is going to be tragic, naive politics."
But an Obama campaign adviser who worked closely on the candidate's Africa positions said the naive move would be to think it is possible to trust Bashir's regime, which has a long history of broken promises and is highly unpopular across much of Sudan.
The adviser noted that the government only signed the deal with the south after the U.S. helped push it into a corner by indirectly arming the southern rebels. Eventually, the government realized it could not win.
Arrest warrant for Bashir?
Accountability should also be part of any long-term political settlement in Sudan, the adviser said; the leaders who orchestrated the campaign in Darfur must face their misdeeds, he said, even if that comes several years late.
"If we accept the notion that the brutality we've witnessed from this regime over the past two decades is acceptable to bring about temporary stability, then shouldn't we have done the same for the Nazis in Germany?" said the adviser, who was instructed not to speak to the news media.
Obama is likely to face choices on Sudan soon, as judges at the International Criminal Court are expected to decide whether to issue an arrest warrant for Bashir on charges of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.
Obama has pledged to increase U.S. cooperation with the Hague-based court and is expected to honor an arrest warrant for Bashir.
But the adviser said that military options, including covert operations and regime change, are likely to remain under serious discussion in the new administration.
"These people have been in power for almost 20 years " the adviser said. "I doubt that the majority of Sudanese would cry if they were ousted."
Lynch reported from New York.
As venal as many consider Bashir's government to be, it did sign a landmark peace deal that ended a long and bloody civil war between the north and south. If Bashir's government is destabilized, that deal could fall apart, plunging another huge swath of the country into war.
Military intervention could also run the risk of inflaming the Islamists who have been key supporters of Bashir's government, which once hosted Osama bin Laden. In 1998, the Clinton administration bombed a pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum in part because its owners were thought to have ties to bin Laden.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here
"Any destabilization of this government and all these Islamist elements will certainly turn into a dangerous force," said Saswat Fanous, a political science professor in Khartoum and ruling party lawmaker. "They will be driven underground, and they will invite in a flood of radical Islamists coming from the region into Sudan."
The U.N. official shared that concern. The conflict in Darfur is just one of many over the past 20 years that essentially pit those in the center against those in the marginalized periphery, he said. The problem at hand is how to build a politically stable, democratic Sudan that shares power broadly among southerners, Darfurians and residents of other regions.
"As revolting as this government may be, they are indispensable to solving the problem of Sudan," the official said. "They are part of the problem and part of the solution. If the Obama administration is going to be driven by anger, then really, really it is going to be tragic, naive politics."
But an Obama campaign adviser who worked closely on the candidate's Africa positions said the naive move would be to think it is possible to trust Bashir's regime, which has a long history of broken promises and is highly unpopular across much of Sudan.
The adviser noted that the government only signed the deal with the south after the U.S. helped push it into a corner by indirectly arming the southern rebels. Eventually, the government realized it could not win.
Arrest warrant for Bashir?
Accountability should also be part of any long-term political settlement in Sudan, the adviser said; the leaders who orchestrated the campaign in Darfur must face their misdeeds, he said, even if that comes several years late.
"If we accept the notion that the brutality we've witnessed from this regime over the past two decades is acceptable to bring about temporary stability, then shouldn't we have done the same for the Nazis in Germany?" said the adviser, who was instructed not to speak to the news media.
Obama is likely to face choices on Sudan soon, as judges at the International Criminal Court are expected to decide whether to issue an arrest warrant for Bashir on charges of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.
Obama has pledged to increase U.S. cooperation with the Hague-based court and is expected to honor an arrest warrant for Bashir.
But the adviser said that military options, including covert operations and regime change, are likely to remain under serious discussion in the new administration.
"These people have been in power for almost 20 years " the adviser said. "I doubt that the majority of Sudanese would cry if they were ousted."
Lynch reported from New York.
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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration part I
« on: December 08, 2008, 07:06:00 AM »
Sudan's leaders brace for shift in U.S. policy
Obama team seen as likely to adopt a harder line against violence in Darfur
NAIROBI, Kenya - If the election of Barack Obama has been greeted with glee across much of Africa, there is at least one spot where the mood is decidedly different.
In the Sudanese capital of Khartoum these days, political elites are bracing for what they expect will be a major shift in U.S. policy toward a government the United States has blamed for orchestrating a violent campaign against civilians in the western Darfur region.
"Compared to the Republicans, the Democrats, I think they are hawks," said Ghazi Suleiman, a human rights lawyer and member of the Southern People's Liberation Movement, which has a fragile power-sharing agreement with the ruling party. "I know Obama's appointees. And I know their policy towards Sudan. Everybody here knows it. The policy is very aggressive and very harsh. I think we really will miss the judgments of George W. Bush." {this is too funny}
While the Bush administration most recently advocated the idea of "normalizing" relations with Sudan as a carrot approach to ending a crisis it labeled a genocide, Obama's foreign policy appointees have pushed for sticks.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, the nominee for secretary of state, has called for a NATO-enforced no-fly zone to "blanket" Darfur in order to prevent Sudanese bombing of villages. The appointee for U.N. ambassador, Susan E. Rice -- a key Africa adviser to the Clinton administration during the 1994 Rwandan genocide, when President Bill Clinton was sharply criticized for failing to act -- has pushed for U.S. or NATO airstrikes and a naval blockade of Sudan's major port to prevent lucrative oil exports. Rice has vowed to "go down in flames" advocating tough measures.
Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., who was chosen for his foreign policy experience and pressed early for U.S. intervention to stop the fighting in the Balkans, was blunt during a hearing last year: "I would use American force now," he said.
But it remains unclear how those pre-election views will square with the president-elect, who has outlined a pragmatic, coalition-based approach to foreign policy, while also speaking of America's "moral obligation" in the face of humanitarian catastrophes of the sort that are plentiful in Africa.
More cautious than his appointees
Heading off potential genocide is the focus of a task force report to be released today in Washington. The group recommends, among other things, that the Obama administration create a high-level forum in the White House to direct the government's response to threats of mass violence.
So far, Obama has been more cautious on Darfur than some of his appointees, advocating tougher sanctions against Khartoum and a no-fly zone that might be enforced with U.S. "help." He has not called for direct U.S. intervention.
Obama intends to keep Bush's defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, who has already suggested that the United States will not provide much-needed helicopters to a struggling peacekeeping mission in Darfur because U.S. forces are stretched too thin in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama has also nominated as national security adviser retired Marine Gen. James L. Jones, a former NATO supreme allied commander who has suggested that NATO's role in Darfur should be training and support to the current peacekeeping mission rather than direct intervention.
And specialists close to Obama's presidential campaign said that more generally, the new administration sees a need for diplomatic approaches to security crises across the continent.
"We don't have the capacity to pacify these places militarily," said John Prendergast, a Darfur activist and former White House aide during the Clinton administration, citing Sudan and the worsening conflicts in Congo and Somalia. "We need political solutions."
Sudan's U.N. ambassador, Abdalmahmood Abdalhaleem Mohamad, dismissed the calls for military action as "only election slogans."
"You cannot claim to be disengaging from disasters like Iraq but creating a new disaster in one of Africa's biggest countries," he said.
The crisis is in many ways a far more complex conflict than the one the Bush administration confronted. The violence in Darfur began in February 2003 when two rebel groups attacked Sudan's Islamic government, claiming a pattern of bias against the region's black African tribes. Khartoum organized a local Arab militia, known as the Janjaweed, to wage a scorched-earth campaign against the three ethnic groups -- mostly farmers and traders -- thought to be the rebels' political base.
Some analysts estimate that as many as 450,000 people have died from disease and violence in the conflict. About half the population of the Darfur region -- about 2.5 million people -- are now displaced.
But most of that damage occurred during the first two years of the conflict.
Since then, the rebel factions have splintered into dozens of groups who have so far been unable to translate their anger at the government into a political platform for negotiations. And the sides are more fluid now, with fighting among various Arab tribes and rebel factions displacing more people this year than government bombings.
Some analysts and Sudanese observers with no love for the government of Omar Hassan al-Bashir worry that Obama's administration may try to impose a military solution that might have worked at the height of the killing in 2004 and 2005, but not anymore.
"Things have changed dramatically since 2004," said a senior U.N. political officer in Khartoum, who asked not to be identified so that he could speak more freely. "The kind of conflict we have now is really a low-intensity conflict with high-intensity political ramifications. So all of this posturing of a military solution, or a no-fly zone, it's not going to work."
"But," he said, "Obama is going to be pragmatic in Iraq and other places, and Sudan will be the place he shows his toughness. It's not necessarily good for the strategic outcome of the situation."
Obama team seen as likely to adopt a harder line against violence in Darfur
NAIROBI, Kenya - If the election of Barack Obama has been greeted with glee across much of Africa, there is at least one spot where the mood is decidedly different.
In the Sudanese capital of Khartoum these days, political elites are bracing for what they expect will be a major shift in U.S. policy toward a government the United States has blamed for orchestrating a violent campaign against civilians in the western Darfur region.
"Compared to the Republicans, the Democrats, I think they are hawks," said Ghazi Suleiman, a human rights lawyer and member of the Southern People's Liberation Movement, which has a fragile power-sharing agreement with the ruling party. "I know Obama's appointees. And I know their policy towards Sudan. Everybody here knows it. The policy is very aggressive and very harsh. I think we really will miss the judgments of George W. Bush." {this is too funny}
While the Bush administration most recently advocated the idea of "normalizing" relations with Sudan as a carrot approach to ending a crisis it labeled a genocide, Obama's foreign policy appointees have pushed for sticks.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, the nominee for secretary of state, has called for a NATO-enforced no-fly zone to "blanket" Darfur in order to prevent Sudanese bombing of villages. The appointee for U.N. ambassador, Susan E. Rice -- a key Africa adviser to the Clinton administration during the 1994 Rwandan genocide, when President Bill Clinton was sharply criticized for failing to act -- has pushed for U.S. or NATO airstrikes and a naval blockade of Sudan's major port to prevent lucrative oil exports. Rice has vowed to "go down in flames" advocating tough measures.
Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., who was chosen for his foreign policy experience and pressed early for U.S. intervention to stop the fighting in the Balkans, was blunt during a hearing last year: "I would use American force now," he said.
But it remains unclear how those pre-election views will square with the president-elect, who has outlined a pragmatic, coalition-based approach to foreign policy, while also speaking of America's "moral obligation" in the face of humanitarian catastrophes of the sort that are plentiful in Africa.
More cautious than his appointees
Heading off potential genocide is the focus of a task force report to be released today in Washington. The group recommends, among other things, that the Obama administration create a high-level forum in the White House to direct the government's response to threats of mass violence.
So far, Obama has been more cautious on Darfur than some of his appointees, advocating tougher sanctions against Khartoum and a no-fly zone that might be enforced with U.S. "help." He has not called for direct U.S. intervention.
Obama intends to keep Bush's defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, who has already suggested that the United States will not provide much-needed helicopters to a struggling peacekeeping mission in Darfur because U.S. forces are stretched too thin in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama has also nominated as national security adviser retired Marine Gen. James L. Jones, a former NATO supreme allied commander who has suggested that NATO's role in Darfur should be training and support to the current peacekeeping mission rather than direct intervention.
And specialists close to Obama's presidential campaign said that more generally, the new administration sees a need for diplomatic approaches to security crises across the continent.
"We don't have the capacity to pacify these places militarily," said John Prendergast, a Darfur activist and former White House aide during the Clinton administration, citing Sudan and the worsening conflicts in Congo and Somalia. "We need political solutions."
Sudan's U.N. ambassador, Abdalmahmood Abdalhaleem Mohamad, dismissed the calls for military action as "only election slogans."
"You cannot claim to be disengaging from disasters like Iraq but creating a new disaster in one of Africa's biggest countries," he said.
The crisis is in many ways a far more complex conflict than the one the Bush administration confronted. The violence in Darfur began in February 2003 when two rebel groups attacked Sudan's Islamic government, claiming a pattern of bias against the region's black African tribes. Khartoum organized a local Arab militia, known as the Janjaweed, to wage a scorched-earth campaign against the three ethnic groups -- mostly farmers and traders -- thought to be the rebels' political base.
Some analysts estimate that as many as 450,000 people have died from disease and violence in the conflict. About half the population of the Darfur region -- about 2.5 million people -- are now displaced.
But most of that damage occurred during the first two years of the conflict.
Since then, the rebel factions have splintered into dozens of groups who have so far been unable to translate their anger at the government into a political platform for negotiations. And the sides are more fluid now, with fighting among various Arab tribes and rebel factions displacing more people this year than government bombings.
Some analysts and Sudanese observers with no love for the government of Omar Hassan al-Bashir worry that Obama's administration may try to impose a military solution that might have worked at the height of the killing in 2004 and 2005, but not anymore.
"Things have changed dramatically since 2004," said a senior U.N. political officer in Khartoum, who asked not to be identified so that he could speak more freely. "The kind of conflict we have now is really a low-intensity conflict with high-intensity political ramifications. So all of this posturing of a military solution, or a no-fly zone, it's not going to work."
"But," he said, "Obama is going to be pragmatic in Iraq and other places, and Sudan will be the place he shows his toughness. It's not necessarily good for the strategic outcome of the situation."
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Football / Scouting Cornell
« on: December 05, 2008, 07:46:07 AM »
Regional footballers involved in the Digicel Caribbean Championships
Friday, December 05, 2008
KINGSTON, Jamaica (CMC) - Regional footballers involved in the Digicel Caribbean Championships here could get lucky if they manage to impress two key football figures from the United States' Major League Soccer (MLS).
Houston Dynamo's head coach, Dominic Kinnear and San Jose Earthquake's general manager, John Doyle, arrived here this week to scout for new talent and said they were willing to snap up any player who caught their eyes.
"I just wanted to see the talent on show. There have been a lot of successful Caribbean players in the MLS. Hopefully I'll see someone. If they are good, we will sign them," Kinnear pointed out.
Doyle said while he was keeping a close eye on Trinidadian forward Cornell Glen who had played in the MLS before for three different clubs, he was also scouting for new talent.
"We currently have two Caribbean players: Scott Sealy from Trinidad and Ryan Johnson from Jamaica so I am aware of the talent in the Caribbean," said the former US defender.
"I came specifically to see Trinidad's Cornell Glen who has played in the MLS before and I wanted to see how he's playing now. I am also hoping to discover some fresh talent for MLS."
Doyle represented the US 53 times between 1987 and 1994, including at the 1990 FIFA World Cup in Italy while Kinnear played 54 times for the national team between 1990 and 1993
Eight Caribbean teams - Barbados, Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad & Tobago, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Haiti and Antigua & Barbuda - are doing battle in the finals of the tournament which kicked off on Wednesday at the National Stadium here.
The Digicel Caribbean Championships is the region's premier football competition.
Friday, December 05, 2008
KINGSTON, Jamaica (CMC) - Regional footballers involved in the Digicel Caribbean Championships here could get lucky if they manage to impress two key football figures from the United States' Major League Soccer (MLS).
Houston Dynamo's head coach, Dominic Kinnear and San Jose Earthquake's general manager, John Doyle, arrived here this week to scout for new talent and said they were willing to snap up any player who caught their eyes.
"I just wanted to see the talent on show. There have been a lot of successful Caribbean players in the MLS. Hopefully I'll see someone. If they are good, we will sign them," Kinnear pointed out.
Doyle said while he was keeping a close eye on Trinidadian forward Cornell Glen who had played in the MLS before for three different clubs, he was also scouting for new talent.
"We currently have two Caribbean players: Scott Sealy from Trinidad and Ryan Johnson from Jamaica so I am aware of the talent in the Caribbean," said the former US defender.
"I came specifically to see Trinidad's Cornell Glen who has played in the MLS before and I wanted to see how he's playing now. I am also hoping to discover some fresh talent for MLS."
Doyle represented the US 53 times between 1987 and 1994, including at the 1990 FIFA World Cup in Italy while Kinnear played 54 times for the national team between 1990 and 1993
Eight Caribbean teams - Barbados, Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad & Tobago, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Haiti and Antigua & Barbuda - are doing battle in the finals of the tournament which kicked off on Wednesday at the National Stadium here.
The Digicel Caribbean Championships is the region's premier football competition.
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:57:02 PM »
We seemed to have thrown away the game during a few moments of lost concentration.
we had many chances too! The team did not look bad at all....thus far
we had many chances too! The team did not look bad at all....thus far
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:50:19 PM »
looks like we much better than Grenada
81
General Discussion / Re: Flying Squad members offer help to fight crime
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:34:52 PM »It so happen that u must b one ah dem who dos say we know we like it so .
Name one Minister that YOU know is stealing money and I will go away from here!
Jes FACKING ONE!
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:43:36 PM »
Jamrock just scored 1-1
83
General Discussion / Re: Windows Vista
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:30:31 PM »
Read this!
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080718/course-according-to-hollywood-apples-market-share-is-more-like-90/
Just to show you I know what I am talking about!
And why is Vista a steal off MAC's OS?
“Because they’re the super-small-market share guy, they get all these statements about them.” Microsoft (MSFT) Chairman Bill Gates said that about Apple back in 2005. And while it’s essentially still true, it’s less so than it has been in years past. In separate reports today, research houses Gartner (IT) and IDC (IDC) both note that Apple has climbed to third place in the desktop market in the U.S. Gartner figures Apple’s share of state-side PC shipments for the second quarter of 2008 to be 8.5 percent, up from 6.4 percent in the quarter a year earlier. IDC pegs it at 7.8 percent for the second quarter this year, up from 6.2 percent in last year’s second quarter. And that puts the company in third place in the domestic PC market–ahead of Acer, if you believe Gartner. And in fourth place behind Acer if you believe IDC.
Not that it matters all that much. Because regardless of whose metrics you prefer, Apple (AAPL) still lags far behind the two PC sales leaders. Dell (DELL) is still the No. 1 seller of PCs in the U.S., with 32 percent of the market according to IDC. HP is No. 2, with 25 percent. And in terms of worldwide sales, Apple hasn’t even cracked the Top 5. Yet.
It’s definitely No. 1 in Hollywood though, as critic Roger Ebert noted a few years back. “Macs turn up in the movies all the time–not so much because of product placement, but because so many movie people use them and like them,” Ebert wrote. “A historian of the future, counting all the on-screen computers between 1983 and today, would likely conclude that Macs represented 90 percent of the computer market.”
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080718/course-according-to-hollywood-apples-market-share-is-more-like-90/
Just to show you I know what I am talking about!
And why is Vista a steal off MAC's OS?
“Because they’re the super-small-market share guy, they get all these statements about them.” Microsoft (MSFT) Chairman Bill Gates said that about Apple back in 2005. And while it’s essentially still true, it’s less so than it has been in years past. In separate reports today, research houses Gartner (IT) and IDC (IDC) both note that Apple has climbed to third place in the desktop market in the U.S. Gartner figures Apple’s share of state-side PC shipments for the second quarter of 2008 to be 8.5 percent, up from 6.4 percent in the quarter a year earlier. IDC pegs it at 7.8 percent for the second quarter this year, up from 6.2 percent in last year’s second quarter. And that puts the company in third place in the domestic PC market–ahead of Acer, if you believe Gartner. And in fourth place behind Acer if you believe IDC.
Not that it matters all that much. Because regardless of whose metrics you prefer, Apple (AAPL) still lags far behind the two PC sales leaders. Dell (DELL) is still the No. 1 seller of PCs in the U.S., with 32 percent of the market according to IDC. HP is No. 2, with 25 percent. And in terms of worldwide sales, Apple hasn’t even cracked the Top 5. Yet.
It’s definitely No. 1 in Hollywood though, as critic Roger Ebert noted a few years back. “Macs turn up in the movies all the time–not so much because of product placement, but because so many movie people use them and like them,” Ebert wrote. “A historian of the future, counting all the on-screen computers between 1983 and today, would likely conclude that Macs represented 90 percent of the computer market.”
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General Discussion / Re: Windows Vista
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:24:25 PM »
http://www.beachbumcomm.com/beach_bum_blog/mac_vs_pc_in_hollywood.html
More shit from you. You must be using dem PC's for games.
Click the above link and weep.
as I sadi the only...yes ONLY thing a PC has over a Mac is the cheap price.
finiky pieces of shit that crash all the time.
Macs dont crash boy...the applications sometimes do, PCs are prone to crases as you are to talking shit!
Mac vs PC for editing
Posted Jun 9th 2006 2:07PM by Ajit Anthony
The participants of this forum try to answer the age old question for editors and filmmakers, which operating system platform is best to build an editing station on? If you have read this blog even for a short while, you will know where I stand. I am Mac all the way. I briefly flirted wth Avid on a PC. The hardware was decent but with Mac going Intel, the hardware issue is a moot point. If anything, I would even say that Mac now switching, hardware is better than its PC counterparts. OS software is not a contest as OS X beats Windows everyday of the week. The only thing that I feel PC's have a clear advantage is with options both in hardware accessories and software options. But this has gotten better and better recently. That is why the recent P2 software that only worked on the PC side surprised me. There was also a time when clients demanded you know the Avid but not any more, FCP is the industry standard now. I would even venture to say that there is more gigs available on the FCP side than on the Avid.
By the way I happen to know quite a few of the guys who ACTUALLY worked on STAR WARS for Lucas...guess what they use?
Yep..MACS!
And all those I am a PC ads..guess what they used to create them?
YEP!
MACS!
get a life outside of video games, use a MAc and get out of a funk baby!
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/09/19/microsofts-im-a-pc-ads-created-on-macs/
More shit from you. You must be using dem PC's for games.
Click the above link and weep.
as I sadi the only...yes ONLY thing a PC has over a Mac is the cheap price.
finiky pieces of shit that crash all the time.
Macs dont crash boy...the applications sometimes do, PCs are prone to crases as you are to talking shit!
Mac vs PC for editing
Posted Jun 9th 2006 2:07PM by Ajit Anthony
The participants of this forum try to answer the age old question for editors and filmmakers, which operating system platform is best to build an editing station on? If you have read this blog even for a short while, you will know where I stand. I am Mac all the way. I briefly flirted wth Avid on a PC. The hardware was decent but with Mac going Intel, the hardware issue is a moot point. If anything, I would even say that Mac now switching, hardware is better than its PC counterparts. OS software is not a contest as OS X beats Windows everyday of the week. The only thing that I feel PC's have a clear advantage is with options both in hardware accessories and software options. But this has gotten better and better recently. That is why the recent P2 software that only worked on the PC side surprised me. There was also a time when clients demanded you know the Avid but not any more, FCP is the industry standard now. I would even venture to say that there is more gigs available on the FCP side than on the Avid.
By the way I happen to know quite a few of the guys who ACTUALLY worked on STAR WARS for Lucas...guess what they use?
Yep..MACS!
And all those I am a PC ads..guess what they used to create them?
YEP!
MACS!
get a life outside of video games, use a MAc and get out of a funk baby!
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/09/19/microsofts-im-a-pc-ads-created-on-macs/
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General Discussion / Re: Flying Squad members offer help to fight crime
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:15:09 PM »Yuh could steupss till yuh mouth twist ,the truth dos offend, if you could say you doh know that the gov ministers dos tief millions well breds u take win.
Ok I am taking win. You have proff of that allegation, just a little glimpse at it and I would be happy.
If not shut to F@#k up!
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:13:50 PM »
I am listening to the Jamaica game...according to the commentators,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BORING football and the game desperately needed a goal, well now we have one.
Jamaica eh playing nutten so far, and can lose this as easily as we lost ours!
Jamaica eh playing nutten so far, and can lose this as easily as we lost ours!
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 06:00:59 PM »
game done Grenada did it. lol
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 05:54:51 PM »
2-1 Grenada just scored
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 05:17:06 PM »
the Digicel site showing Grenada won the game 1-0???
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
« on: December 03, 2008, 05:05:54 PM »
Grenada missed a penalty, and at half time is leading 1-0.
We are not playing well at all according to reports coming from the Jamaicans at the Stadium.
We are not playing well at all according to reports coming from the Jamaicans at the Stadium.