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Football / Re: ‘Warriors’ final round qualifiers at Oval.
« on: December 03, 2008, 03:27:49 PM »
the oval is also a concave pitch!  It is NOT flat!

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General Discussion / Re: Windows Vista
« on: December 03, 2008, 03:24:51 PM »
If you are an artist in the true sense of the word, then hands down a Mac is better.  90% of all special effects in hollywood are created using Mac...ask yourself why!

let me begin with the mac:

They are great and very useful..no viruses and malware.I’ll start with where Macs are terrific. There are almost no viruses or other malware for Macs, at least for OS X.

windows is full ah malware attacks. In fact if anyone is using windows, or that shitty Vista that Microsorf attempted to steaf from OSX you go need  a hardware firewall, a software firewall, antivirus, antispyware and anti-adware applications in the hope of keeping it clean.  IN DE HOPE! \

Macs are very very very stable. OS X is based on FreeBSD.  I’ve yet to have OS X crash in the 6 years I using it. 

De applications crash, but I never recover ease  Shitty ass windows always crashing. And when it crash it does take ah act of God to relauch it or even recover. Task manager doh always work wither!! hah..shit= windows. 

A Mac is akways working and working well too.  OS X does remember your configurations, when you turn de power on everything does be just like it should be, SAY THAT ABOUT WINDOWS nah!  YUH JES CANT!

Now to be fair, windows does do some things good eh, for instance, when backing up data windows does ake sure you replace older versions, OS X does act like ah wajang and just delete everything, so you could lose data! windows does leave de bnewest version there.

Now when you talking harware Apple distance tself from windows

Then there’s the hardware. Apple hardware is ah best!  it full of power too.  That optical drive is awesome and de bess.



Apple is clerly a better graphics workstation than anything Microsorf could come up with.

see my Hollywood comment aboe!

The only thing a microsrf have on a apple is the price!



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Football / Re: ah oui boy
« on: December 03, 2008, 01:36:13 PM »
old news. but jordan like them old london double decker bus....../////always room on top for one more

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Football / Re: ‘Warriors’ final round qualifiers at Oval.
« on: December 03, 2008, 01:30:26 PM »
And these clowns wo post here care to bad mouth the Minister and take stinking Jack Warner;s side!

eh eh!


Lights return to Trelawny Stadium after JPS lock-off
BY KAYON RAYNOR Senior staff reporter raynork@jamaicaobserver.com
Wednesday, December 03, 2008

QUICK action from Sports Minister Olivia Grange last evening averted an embarrassing situation for the Jamaica Football Federation (JFF) after the Jamaica Public Service (JPS) disconnected electricity from the Trelawny Multi-Purpose Stadium - venue for matches in this week's CFU Digicel Caribbean Championships.

Information reaching the Observer is that the JPS disconnected electricity from the sports venue for non-payment of bills in the total of $3.2 million.

"We can confirm that today (yesterday) the JPS disconnected the light," said Michael Fennell, who chairs Independence Park Limited (IPL), the body which has temporary responsibility for operating the Trelawny Multi-Purpose Stadium.

Four games are scheduled to be played at the Trelawny facility between Friday and Saturday in the eight- team Digicel Caribbean Championship Finals.

"There is an amount that is outstanding... for some time and the (Sports) Ministry has been trying to put in place the funds to settle that amount," Fennell explained.

Grange, who was initially surprised that the JPS had disconnected the electricity supply, told the Observer power would have been reconnected last night after speaking with the authorities at the JPS.

"The light is being turned on as we speak because we have the cheque and have therefore advised them," Grange said moments after leaving Parliament last evening.

She said the disconnection resulted from a "breakdown in communication" between IPL's deputy chairman, Major Desmon Brown, and Shawn Thompson, the ministry's director of corporate services. "We had the cheque here (at the ministry) but Major Brown spoke with the JPS not knowing that the cheque was ready," Grange said.

"As usual if there is a cash flow (problem) things are a little delayed... but we've been catching up on the cash flow and the cheque was prepared; it's just that the system takes a while to get signatures and all of that," Grange explained.
Meanwhile JFF president, Captain Horace Burrell, while relieved that the problem was sorted out, was disappointed that the JPS had cut the power initially.

"I believed that JPS was extremely insensitive in disconnecting the lights at this stage. Disconnecting the lights when Jamaica is hosting the rest of the Caribbean in football, I thought that it could have been handled differently," Burrell told the Observer.

"Having said that I want to thank the sports minister for her quick action in having this situation resolved and... all is well that ends well," he said.

The winner of the Digicel Caribbean Cup will pocket US$120,000 and the Digicel Caribbean Championship Trophy. The top four teams will automatically qualify for next year's CONCACAF Gold Cup.

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General Discussion / Re: Flying Squad members offer help to fight crime
« on: December 03, 2008, 01:16:49 PM »
The government ministers tiefing by the  millions and protected by the law, yuh doh feel the law would want them own too.

Take your evidence to the flying squad!  Or SAUTT, if you know that government ministers tiefing millions!

steups.

There were lots of guns back in the day with the flying squad too,  bad men used to walk into police stations and hold it up.

Kitch sang a song about dem fellas.

NUFF, men like Harewood and women like Beverley Jones, real bank robberies, camps in the forest etc.

Burroughs and his boys did a commendable job eli inating opposition to the state and their pockets.

Cordner has a pont, bring back the constabulatory, ore community policing.

If the criminals not afraid of the police, then the police must make them feasrful.

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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: December 03, 2008, 01:07:45 PM »
It hadda be like that ... well not 'hadda' but it's the wisest path ... I would characterise it as slightly left of center to moderately right of center re: national security ... in other words, it's justly positioned (when viewed as a collective balance).

so it has multiple personality disorder?  left of center to right of center...hmmmm.

you do realize that the US under Clinton engaged in the longest bombing campaign?

These people are very hawkish...Hillary, Biden.....his chief of staff endorsed targeted assination...like that fella de preacher in Virginia....Pat Robertson, den mr ross and his pro Irael history....wow!

left of center you say>>>>>>...????

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Football / Re: ‘Warriors’ final round qualifiers at Oval.
« on: December 03, 2008, 11:40:11 AM »
the oval itch have a curve to it too, dat eh no damn football grounds.  Why do you people so easily bow to Jack's assness?

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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: December 03, 2008, 09:02:58 AM »
“Obama’s Cabinet is starting to look like a Clinton administration reunion,” Conant said.

I knew you would latch onto that ... heheheh :). Let's not neglect the source of the comment. It's not like the Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford and Nixon White Houses didn't have overlapping personnel.

I latched on to what was obvious to all but a select few.

And his cabinet is so damn hawkish, can harldy distinguish it from Bush's....well to an extent anyway!

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Football / Re: ‘Warriors’ final round qualifiers at Oval.
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:55:30 AM »
Excellent work Mr Warner. The Under 20 in the Pro League..... and Latapy back home as assistant/player.

But if the under 20 have qualifers in March 2009 how will that affect the team participant in the league.

Gary Hunt is really a dam fool.
        Football at it's best !!! :challenge:

Coops I agree with the above but in reality the decision to play the WC home games in the Oval is utter nonsense.  Ask any of the players if they want to play in the Oval?  Nobody wants to.  Therefore, Jack is ah jackass and will continue to be a jackass in my opinion.  The oval is not a football pitch and will not help us any.  He needs to get over his ego and negotiate the fair use of the National Stadium.  I can't stand this and it is ridiculous!!!!

For the life of me one man have wayyyyy too much power.

Before 1982 all the international games were played in the Oval, Skinner Park, George V, Arima velodrome and even in the savannha.
In fact in '88 we play Honduras in the Oval, we play Costa Rica in the Oval in the 90's both were qualifiers.
From a spectator point of view the stadium is probably better but the oval allows you to adjust the size of the ground which in some cases could be a plus.
Tell me the players YOU talk to that say they rather play in the stadium ?
The oval dressing room facilities is the best in the Caribbean right now so tell me what these players that tell YOU they rather play in the stadium reasons are?

Some of the best ever intercol games play in the Oval
The best footballer in the world play in the Oval

You talking ta-ta.  While it is true that the Oval was used in the past, that does not translate into, it is good for football today.

Long ago men used to wipe their ass with razor grass and walk away quite contented!

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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:44:48 AM »
“Obama’s Cabinet is starting to look like a Clinton administration reunion,” Conant said.

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General Discussion / Re: Windows Vista
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:42:39 AM »
I using Mac OS X Leopard  :devil:

Not something to boast about.

I on a swanky new G5 in the office and would pelt it in the bush for a good woking pc.

Steve Jobs could keep this shit.


Please!  A PC over a Mac?  You on crack!   Either that or you can't handle perfection...or maybe you eh sophisticated enough?   :devil: :devil: :devil:

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General Discussion / 'No-one in our house works'
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:37:57 AM »
'No-one in our house works'

By Paula Dear
BBC News


With redundancies rising and job vacancies shrinking, unemployment is back in the headlines. But for millions it never went away. As part of a series on Britain's jobless, one family explains how and why lack of work has touched their lives.

Elizabeth Malcolm, 43, has never had a job. She lives in a two-bedroom council flat in Glasgow with her three children, one grandchild, two cats and a hamster.

Neither of her two working-age children has a job.
   

Q&A: Who are the jobless?
Key statistics
The family is what the statistics gatherers call a "workless household" - one of three million in the country. In reality it's not quite so easy to put every jobless person into a neat little box. This is their story.

Elizabeth, known as "Biff" to family and friends, wishes now that she had got into work or college back in 1980, when she left school at 15.

It was hardly a great time to be a jobseeker, especially living in Easterhouse, a part of Glasgow long synonymous with deprivation and unemployment. But she concedes that she doesn't really know why she didn't get a job, and that there was an element of just "not getting round" to it.

She doesn't think school wanted her to stay on because she "wasn't too bright" and used to bunk off a lot.
Without any qualifications she assumed she wasn't able to follow her chosen path and join the Army. She never actually made it to the recruitment office to ask.
   
 I did try, but nobody took me on 
Elizabeth Malcolm

Send us your comments
After signing on the dole, she was nagged to find a job by her parents - who both worked until redundancy and illness stopped them in their 50s - and says she tried to find something.

"I did try, but nobody took me on," she says.
By 17 she had met the father of her three children and by 22 had their first son William. From then on family, home life and dealing with a failing relationship took over, she says.

While Elizabeth "feels angry" at herself for not getting into work when she was younger, at the same time she believes looking after the kids and the house has been a job in itself. Labour market survey figures for the last quarter showed more than two million women gave the same reason for not working.

Now a lone parent, she shares her bedroom with her son Jon, 13, daughter Danielle, 17, and Danielle's son Rhys, 11 months.
   

Next generation: More on William, Danielle and Jon

In pictures
William, 21, who served in the Army for three-and-a-half years and went to Iraq and Afghanistan, sleeps in the small second bedroom.

The family survives on a combination of Income Support and Child Tax Credits, claimed by both Elizabeth and Danielle. Both also receive the universal Child Benefit for one child each. It all amounts to about £270 a week for the five of them.

As no-one in the house is actively seeking work, they don't count as "unemployed" and none claims Jobseeker's Allowance.

Things will change for Elizabeth next year, when she will no longer be entitled to Income Support for being a lone parent. She is already being asked to attend interviews at the local job centre.

"They send for you every month to ask you why you're not working and if you've been looking for work. I've told them my situation, that I've been having panic attacks when I go out - which started after my dad died - and they've written it all down.
   


"They said I'd be better off if I was out working because Jon's at an age now where the money I'm getting will stop soon. I'd need to sign on [for unemployment benefit] again and I don't want that because I think I'm too old to sign on."

Elizabeth says she would most want to work in a caring job, with animals, children or elderly people, because she has looked after people all her life.

Jobcentre staff have told her if anything comes up they'll "send her a letter", she adds.
Having a job would help "keep her mind off things" that have happened, she says.
Although there's always been a degree of struggle to get by, the family recently went into a complete tailspin, says Elizabeth.

A catalogue of events have left her and William suffering from panic attacks, while Jon has "gone off the rails" and started truanting from school.
   
 I'll just need to get it out of my head and start going places, or else I'm going to be stuck in the house for the rest of my life 

William, 21
Elizabeth lost both her parents in the past four years, with her father's death hitting her and William particularly hard. After his grandfather fell ill William became depressed and left the Army.

"He was his granda's blue-eyed boy," says Elizabeth.
In 2006 the children's father, John Purcell, who was separated from Elizabeth but had been visiting the kids, was stabbed to death. Soon after, William was savagely attacked by local gang members and stabbed several times. After a second attack he stopped straying more than a few feet from the house, and started drinking more and more.

It's left William so afraid to go out, he can't sign on.

"I'll just need to get it out of my head and start going places, or else I'm going to be stuck in the house for the rest of my life," he says. "I can't keep living like this, living off my mum. I'd like to have my own house, and my own wee family... definitely."

'Downhill'

For the time being he plays uncle to Danielle's baby, Rhys.
With no father on the scene, Danielle relies on help from the family. She says she hopes to learn to be a hairdresser or beautician.

"All my pals are looking for work as well. But it's not that easy to get a job straight away, you've got to write out your CV and everything and then hand it in to places."
Day-to-day she spends her time going to the shops for her mother, collecting her money, or visiting friends who also have children.

Elizabeth - who is besotted with her cats - would like to work with animals
"Some days I'm just sitting in the house. That's what I do, morning till night, unless I go down to see my auntie or something. It's not really a life."

Elizabeth is aware there are some who would criticise her life. She would agree, she says, with those who say it is "terrible" that taxpayers should be in the position of paying for those without work.
"I'm sorry they have to pay tax money to me. If I could get a job... give me a job then and I'll work, and then they won't have to pay me."

Photographs by Phil Coomes

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Football / Re: ‘Warriors’ final round qualifiers at Oval.
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:15:29 AM »
And coops clapping like ah meck meck beh beh man!

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Jokes / "Where's the bathroom?"
« on: December 02, 2008, 09:13:33 PM »
This guy is sitting in a bar drunk. He asks the bartender, "Where's the bathroom at?" The bartender says, "Go down the hall and make a right."

Well, all of a sudden, everybody at the bar hears this loud scream coming from the bathroom, and they wonder about what's going on in there. A few minutes go by, and again, everybody at the bar hears another loud scream that came out of the bathroom. This time, the bartender decides to investigate, and he goes into the bathroom to see what the drunk is screaming about.

He opens the door and asks the drunk, "What's all the screaming about in here? You are scaring all my customers away."

The drunk whines, "I'm sitting on the toilet and every time I go to flush it, something comes up and squeezes the heck out of my gonads!"

With that, the bartender looks in and says, "No wonder! You're sitting on a mop bucket, you idiot!!"

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ok i agree with whay swima and asy said

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Football / Re: Veterans want to coach in schools
« on: December 02, 2008, 03:21:16 PM »
1) approach the schools
and if the schools dont want to participate
2) have the Veteran Footballers Foundation (VFF) set up football academies around TnT with those players who want to coach
3) Get every player who signs up to join FPATT
     I am a veteran myself and i will say Clauzel,Selas etc etc could say what they want,if they have not kept up with the game/elevated themselves with the modern methods of coaching they are lost.I have coached T&T at all the different levels but since coming out here i have not been involved at that level and that's years,i will not involve myself at that level after all these years being away from it,the game i'm seeing now is a lot different,my strength's right now is developing youths.
      It's easy to say the things they are saying but implementing them is another thing,yes the ideas are excellent,is years we talking about that when we going to act,fingers are just pointing and people blaming each other,lets don't fool ourselves for any program to be successful finance is needed and we got to have qualified personnel.
      The country just don't have a structure,anybody once you play Football can coach a school,from reports i read on here the level is very poor,so much so our Youth team players are not allowed to participate,what beats me today is growing up we had no Coaches,today everybody have an Academy but it's more about the dollar and not the product,you know every kid in the US that plays Football have a ball,boots and shinguards.
       I agree with you on approaching the schools but it must be done through the ministry else we spinning top in mud,Coaches will be guaranteed a little salary and would have to account for the schools placed under them,they will be responsible for the development programs at all age levels both girls and boys.  

steups, more shit talk from coops ..again..again!

The men talk about developing young players you talking about coaching national side!

Then you say you not able at the national level you good at coaching youngsters.  what shit!

The men asking for old stars to coach PRIMARY SCHOOL LEVEL BALL!

You coaching in the States, and MANY of them coaches CYAR train an elephant to eat ah peanut, but each week you rubbing shoulders with them.

What the hell you know about Clauzel and his coaching credentials?

The men talking the good talk, and ypou on one set of fight down.

I feel Jack Warner have you training men how to shine his balls!

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This whole thing makes you wonder about if ANYBODY respects Manning.
Really what could arouse Manning to try to be peacemaker between police ?
Should he not be above that ?
He is the PM , so he should have admonished his driver to get him and his wife safely into the palace and let the police handle their own stories.
C'mon he is the PM what he doing getting into that nonsense.
Maybe this is why the cop felt he could carry on with him.

Yep. Another exhibit in the continuum of poor judgement demonstrated by the man.

And, also indicative of the fraternal nature of the PM relative to the security detail (something also present in the radio station situation).

so guy, you dont feel the PM should be partial to HIS security detail?

I think his point is that as PM he should not even venture a comment. His office is above this, even if he as a person isn't.

I see the PM's actions as trying to diffuse a potentially dangerous situation.  And I believe that the PM wanted to testify, he had no need other than to let others know, doh f**k with my security detail.

Ent Bush did land on aircraft carrier with Big banner Mission Accomplished?

Whais de corelative here of de Mission Accomplished banner?

What will it take for the PM to bring his office into disrepute? De man sullying de office. De frequency of these incidents and the character of these incidents leaves a lot to be desired.

Maybe the security detail might be more professional if he was more professional.

Jump and wave!  misbehave!

The security detail bears no blame other than they did not slap the cuffs on the offending officer. And slamming him into the ground!  If anyone brought disrepute to anything it was that jackass.

So The PM in your estimation brought his office into disrepute by confronting the offending officer?  nice to know.  And just what led you to come to the determination that the Security detail had been unprofessional?

Maybe using Clinton's sexual escapades would have been more applicable?  Or Panday's flat in London?

also did it occur to you and the other security experts here, that the PM may have been listening to the entire episode unfold on radio in his car?

guess not huh?

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General Discussion / Chilling reminder!
« on: December 02, 2008, 10:53:53 AM »
click this link for photos

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7751912.stm

Read this too.

Burlington: Gallery 1
You are in: Wiltshire > Wiltshire's Underground City > Burlington: Gallery 1 > Wiltshire's Secret Underground City


Burlington Nuclear Bunker at Corsham

Wiltshire's Secret Underground City
Burlington: The 35 acre, secret subterranean Cold War City that lies 100 feet beneath Corsham.
Welcome to Wiltshire’s Secret Underground City… the 35 acre subterranean Cold War City that lies 100 feet beneath Corsham.
Built in the late 50s this massive city complex was designed to safely house up to 4,000 central Government personnel in the event of a nuclear strike.
In a former Bath stone quarry the city, code named Burlington, was to be the site of the main Emergency Government War Headquarters - the hub of the Country’s alternative seat of power outside London.

The Telephone Exchange

Over 60 miles of Roads
Over a kilometre in length, and boasting over 60 miles of roads, the underground site was designed not only to accommodate the than Conservative Prime Minister, Harold MacMillan, but the entire Cabinet Office, civil servants and an army of domestic support staff.

The site was so top secret that many of the civil servants, who had been allocated a desk at Burlington, had no knowledge of it.

Blast proof and completely self-sufficient the secret underground site could accommodate up to 4,000 people, in complete isolation from the outside world, for up to three months.
Although never actually used, the New York grid-style city of roads and avenues was equipped with all the facilities needed to survive.  From underground hospitals, canteens, kitchens and laundries to storerooms of supplies, accommodation areas and offices.

An Underground Lake

An underground lake and treatment plant could provide all the drinking water needed whilst 12 huge tanks could store the fuel required to keep the four massive generators, in the underground power station, running for up to three months.  And unlike most urban cities, above ground, the air within the complex could also be kept at a constant humidity and heated to around 20 degrees.

A ward in the hospital

The city was also equipped with the second largest telephone exchange in Britain, a BBC studio from which the PM could address the nation and an internal Lamson Tube system that could relay messages, using compressed air, throughout the complex.

For 30 years Burlington was in operation but at the end of the Cold War, in 1991, the still un-used city complex was finally taken over by the MOD and kept on standby in case of future nuclear threats to the UK.
But last December, with the underground reservoir drained, emptied of fuel and supplies and with a skeleton staff of just four, the site was finally decommissioned…

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This whole thing makes you wonder about if ANYBODY respects Manning.
Really what could arouse Manning to try to be peacemaker between police ?
Should he not be above that ?
He is the PM , so he should have admonished his driver to get him and his wife safely into the palace and let the police handle their own stories.
C'mon he is the PM what he doing getting into that nonsense.
Maybe this is why the cop felt he could carry on with him.

Yep. Another exhibit in the continuum of poor judgement demonstrated by the man.

And, also indicative of the fraternal nature of the PM relative to the security detail (something also present in the radio station situation).

so guy, you dont feel the PM should be partial to HIS security detail?

I think his point is that as PM he should not even venture a comment. His office is above this, even if he as a person isn't.

I see the PM's actions as trying to diffuse a potentially dangerous situation.  And I believe that the PM wanted to testify, he had no need other than to let others know, doh f**k with my security detail.

Ent Bush did land on aircraft carrier with Big banner Mission Accomplished?

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This whole thing makes you wonder about if ANYBODY respects Manning.
Really what could arouse Manning to try to be peacemaker between police ?
Should he not be above that ?
He is the PM , so he should have admonished his driver to get him and his wife safely into the palace and let the police handle their own stories.
C'mon he is the PM what he doing getting into that nonsense.
Maybe this is why the cop felt he could carry on with him.

Yep. Another exhibit in the continuum of poor judgement demonstrated by the man.

And, also indicative of the fraternal nature of the PM relative to the security detail (something also present in the radio station situation).

so guy, you dont feel the PM should be partial to HIS security detail?

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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: November 27, 2008, 07:03:38 PM »
Obama change?

He wants to ramp up the war in Afghanistan;

He make ah Iraq plan that could turn into ah downsized and rebranded occupation that go keep de U.S. forces in Iraq for de foreseeable future;

He done label Iran's Revolutionary Guard as ah "terrorist organization;"

He make ah pledge tuh use unilateral force inside ah Pakistan to defend U.S. interests;

Obama make he position clear and make ah presenttion before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), that Jerusalem "must remain undivided" -- a remark that infuriated Palestinian officials and which he later attempted to reframe;

what about he plan to continue the War on Drugs, a backdoor U.S. counterinsurgency campaign in Central and Latin America;

And then he refused to "rule out" using Blackwater and other armed private forces in U.S. war zones, despite previously introducing legislation to regulate these companies and bring them under U.S. law.

Obama looking like ah neoliberal?

You doh fed up talk shit fuh one man dred?  Hush yuh mouth and give yuh backside ah rest nuh Ass?

Obama is the one man who has demonstrated any sort of interest in developing a timeline for withdrawing US forces from Iraq... the only one with whom the Iraqi interim gov't sees eye to eye on that... where you getting this shit talk "downsized plan to keep US forces in Iraq for foreseeable future" from?  You living some kinda alternate reality or what?  Dat is all one can conclude looking at this next nonsense "He make ah pledge tuh use unilateral force inside ah Pakistan to defend U.S. interests" talk.  What "pledge" did he make?  All the man said is that he keeping all options on the table where that is concerned.  There's a difference between keeping something as an option and making a "pledge" to do it.

Ah know Hillary was yuh gyul but some ah allyuh real getting ridiculous with allyuh criticism now.

Obama said if elected in November 2008 he would be willing to attack inside Pakistan with or without approval from the Pakistani government, a move that would likely cause anxiety in the already troubled region.

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said.

And another:

Tom Baldwin in Washington

Barack Obama, a leading Democrat candidate in the US presidential race, provoked anger yesterday by threatening to send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists — even without permission from that country’s Government.

Standing in front of a Stars and Stripes flag, Mr Obama said: “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again . . . If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

OK so it is not technically a pledge, more of a promise!

The fact is that the troop surge has succeeded in reversing the violence in Iraq, as much as that pains you (and me too), it is a fact, his plan to downsize at this time will do exactly what I said it will do, keep troops there, at a lower level and for the forseeable future.  doh like dat?  take it up with the president elect.

This has nothing to do with Hillary, and everything to do with more of the same.  after running a magnificent campaign he has resorted to sale old washington politics.

look at the people he has assembled thus far1

They are hawkish, neo-cons among them, and old clintonites.  after promising to CHANE..yes we Can!  he has surrounded himself with people who are entrenched in the same washington tradition that he proclaimed destroyed the US.

As for Blackwater and those so-called security firms, he plans to keep them there in Iraq and Afghanistan!

How can you defend that?

Even veteran journalist Robert Parry, the former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter who broke many of the stories in the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980s, has this to say:  "Barack Obama seems headed toward some fateful mistakes as he assembles his administration by heeding the advice of Washington's Democratic insider community, a collective group that represents little 'change you can believe in."

His choice of Chief of Satff had me reeling.  I know you find it heart warming eh, but to me, that man is a hawkish type who actually volunteered to join Israel's army in 1991, and is a is a hard-line supporter of Israel's "targeted assassination."

that sure leaves a lot of room for dialogue and open discussion doesn't it?

Oh and dat man is the only memeber of the Illonois democratic conventoion to vote infavour of the Invasion of Iraq!

this is Obama's chief of staff's position on another major issue:

"As for Iraq policy, at the right time, we will have a position," he said in December 2005. As Philip Giraldi recently pointed out on Antiwar.com, Emanuel "advocates increasing the size of the U.S. Army by 100,000 soldiers and creating a domestic spying organization like Britain's MI5. More recently, he has supported mandatory paramilitary national service for all Americans between the ages of 18 and 25."

and lastly what of Mr. deniss ross?

he was protoge to Paul Wolfowitz,  he is known as Israel's lawyer in washington politico circles.

them is excellent choices when yuh working toward midle east peace and keeping all your options open..oh yeah!

and I talking shit!  LOUD STUPES!

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General Discussion / Re: CHIEF SEATTLE'S 1854 ORATION" - ver . 1
« on: November 27, 2008, 06:15:17 PM »
I still don't see the corelation between this speech and thanksgiving.

I know all about the History of Thanksgiving and the help provided to the settlers by the Indians.  Most times the help came through the gun as the Indians were not always too happy to render help.

they were raided and their stocks for the winter stolen from them too.  still trying to figure outthe connection to that speech though.

That speech and turkey day?  whats the damn connection?

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General Discussion / Re: CHIEF SEATTLE'S 1854 ORATION" - ver . 1
« on: November 27, 2008, 04:22:22 PM »
And when the last Red Man shall have perished, and the memory of my tribe shall have become a myth among the White Men, these shores will swarm with the invisible dead of my tribe, and when your children's children think themselves alone in the field, the store, the shop, upon the highway, or in the silence of the pathless woods, they will not be alone. In all the earth there is no place dedicated to solitude. At night when the streets of your cities and villages are silent and you think them deserted, they will throng with the returning hosts that once filled them and still love this beautiful land. The White Man will never be alone.

 Let him be just and deal kindly with my people, for the dead are not powerless. Dead, did I say? There is no death, only a change of worlds.




 Assrancid if  u was to wish Seattle children ,children happy thanksgivin ah wonder what they would say to u,
u askin me what this have to do with turkey day ,ask them they would tell yuh .

Just answer my damn question!

I have no need to ask seattle's children anything.

What does that speech have to do with gobble gobble turkey day?

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General Discussion / Re: The Obama Administration
« on: November 27, 2008, 07:15:39 AM »
Obama change?

He wants to ramp up the war in Afghanistan;

He make ah Iraq plan that could turn into ah downsized and rebranded occupation that go keep de U.S. forces in Iraq for de foreseeable future;

He done label Iran's Revolutionary Guard as ah "terrorist organization;"

He make ah pledge tuh use unilateral force inside ah Pakistan to defend U.S. interests;

Obama make he position clear and make ah presenttion before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), that Jerusalem "must remain undivided" -- a remark that infuriated Palestinian officials and which he later attempted to reframe;

what about he plan to continue the War on Drugs, a backdoor U.S. counterinsurgency campaign in Central and Latin America;

And then he refused to "rule out" using Blackwater and other armed private forces in U.S. war zones, despite previously introducing legislation to regulate these companies and bring them under U.S. law.

Obama looking like ah neoliberal?

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General Discussion / Re: Flying Squad members offer help to fight crime
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:48:24 PM »
Flying squad was a bunch of Bandits.


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General Discussion / Re: CHIEF SEATTLE'S 1854 ORATION" - ver . 1
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:42:26 PM »
And this has what to do with turkey day?

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General Discussion / Marine archaeologists find remains of slave ship
« on: November 25, 2008, 06:09:33 PM »

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer – 1 hr 29 mins ago
AP – This undated handout photo provided by NOAA shows the hull remains of the so-called 'Black Rock Wreck' …
WASHINGTON – Marine archaeologists have found the remains of a slave ship wrecked off the Turks and Caicos Islands in 1841, an accident that set free the ancestors of many current residents of those islands. Some 192 Africans survived the sinking of the Spanish ship Trouvadore off the British-ruled islands, where the slave trade was banned.

Over the years the ship had been forgotten, said researcher Don Keith, so when the discovery connected the ship to current residents the first response "was a kind of shock, a lack of comprehension," he explained in a briefing organized by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

But after word got out "people really got on board with it," he said, and the local museum has assisted the researchers. He said this is the only known wreck of a ship engaged in the illegal slave trade.

Keith and his co-researchers from the Texas-based Ships of Discovery organization came across a letter at the Smithsonian Institution that referred to the sinking and began their search for the ship.

"The people of the Turks and Caicos have a direct line to this dramatic, historic event — it's how so many of them ended up being there. We hope this discovery will encourage the people of the Turks and Caicos to protect and research their local history, especially the history that remains underwater," he said.

"It really is a mystery, it's a detective story," added marine archaeologist Toni Carrell.
"We do all of this because we recognize the importance of history. This is an important part of the Turks and Caicos history," she said.

The team was able to determine that authorities on the islands apprenticed the Africans to trades for a year and then allowed them to settle on the islands, many on Grand Turk. The Spanish crew was arrested and turned over to authorities in Cuba, then a Spanish colony.

An 1878 letter refers to the Trouvadore Africans as making up the pith — meaning an essential part — of the laboring population on the islands.

When the wreck was first discovered in 2004 it was named the Black Rock ship because the researchers were unsure of its identity. They have since become convinced by the timing and design of the vessel that it is the Trouvadore.

"We were not fortunate enough to find a bell with 'Trouvadore' on it," Carrell explained. Useful parts of the ship had been salvaged before winds and currents carried it into deeper water.
"It's rare and exciting to find a wreck of such importance that has been forgotten for so many years," said Frank Cantelas, marine archaeologist for NOAA's Office of Ocean Exploration and Research.

The team also found the remains of the U.S. brig Chippewa, a ship built for the War of 1812 which was engaged in chasing pirates when it was lost in 1816. That vessel was identified by the unique type of cannons, called carronades, it carried.

Indeed, the researchers said the Turks and Caicos now possesses one of the world's best collections of carronades.

NOAA provided about $178,000 to assist the research.

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General Discussion / Re: Doctors Remove Extra Penis From Baby Boy's Back
« on: November 25, 2008, 06:08:22 PM »
These kind of anomalies always happening in China and India.

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Football / LOOK at thios video from 5:36..and see the REAL MASTER!
« on: November 23, 2008, 07:18:09 PM »

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