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Football / Re: Favourite footballers of all time

« on: July 21, 2006, 07:27:55 AM »

1. R. Baggio
2. Romario
3. Ronaldinho
4. Zidane
5. Latapy
6. Stoichkov
7. Hagi
8. Okocha
9. Rivaldo
10. Figo

Honorable mention....

- Casillas
- Zola
- Ronaldo (pre knee injury)
- Donadoni
- Vialli
- Gullit
- Valderamma
- Yorke

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Football / Re: Zizou and Materazzi both banned

« on: July 21, 2006, 06:21:44 AM »

Inter concern over Materazzi ban  [/size]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5202724.stm
 
Materazzi will miss Italy's next two matches because of a Fifa ban
Inter Milan president Giacinto Facchetti fears Fifa has set a worrying precedent after banning Marco Materazzi for insulting Zinedine Zidane.
Fifa handed Italy defender Materazzi a two-game ban for his part in Frenchman Zidane's World Cup final dismissal.

But Inter president Facchetti backed his player insisting: "Cases like this rewrite laws and create precedents.

"It forces disciplinary committees to call both players involved in provoking reactions and reactions."

Zidane was handed a three-match suspension for the dramatic headbutt on Materazzi that led to his sending-off, the standard penalty for violent conduct.

 I wish to underline the disproportion for the penalty inflicted on Materazzi

Inter Milan president Giacinto Facchetti 

However, as the 34-year-old has retired he will instead spend three days doing humanitarian work for Fifa.

But following an investigation, Materazzi was also punished with a two-game ban and fined £2,170 after being found guilty of provoking Zidane.

Facchetti added: "While the respect and the consideration I have for Fifa remains, I wish to underline the disproportion for the penalty inflicted on Materazzi and the one inflicted on the French player."

Guido Rossi, the man brought in to clean up the game in Italy after the recent corruption scandal, hinted that the Italian Football Federation would not appeal against Materazzi's ban.

The judgement rules the 32-year-old out of the Azzurri's Euro 2008 qualifiers against Lithuania on 2 September and France four days later in a rematch of the World Cup final.

Rossi said: "The definitive verdict of the Fifa disciplinary committee will be respected by us.

"But the episode will remain consigned to the TV images and to the public opinion of the entire world."

Zidane spent 90 minutes at his private Fifa hearing on Thursday, while Materazzi appeared before a separate Fifa panel on 14 July.

He maintained throughout his hearing that his comments to Zidane were neither "racist, religious, or political" and he added: "I also said nothing about his mother."

 

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Football / Re: Favourite footballers of all time

« on: July 21, 2006, 06:05:44 AM »

yeah but who's responsible for the war in the middle east???

 

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Football / Barca sign Thuram and Zambrotta

« on: July 21, 2006, 05:18:53 AM »

Barca sign Thuram and Zambrotta  [/size]
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/5201744.stm

Thuram and Zambrotta faced each other in the World Cup final
Barcelona have won the race to capture Juventus defenders Lilian Thuram and Gianluca Zambrotta following the Italian club's relegation to Serie B.
Thuram, 34, has signed a two-year deal, while the 29-year-old Zambrotta has put pen to paper on a four-year contract.

Juventus were relegated and will start next season with a 30-point penalty after the match-fixing scandal which rocked Italian football.

Spanish media reports suggest Barca have paid a combined fee of £13m.

The pair will join their new team-mates on Barca's tour of Mexico and the USA.

France's Thuram and Italy's Zambrotta both enjoyed outstanding tournaments in the World Cup, facing each other in the final.

Thuram, who has also had spells with Monaco and Parma, was part of the France squad which won the 1998 World Cup and Euro 2000.

He won 121 caps for France before calling an end to his international career after his country's defeat to Italy on penalties in the final.

Meanwhile, Zambrotta - who can also play full-back on either flank - spent two seasons with Bari before moving to Juventus in 1999. He has 58 caps for Italy.

Thuram's spokesman told BBC Sport earlier this week that the veteran defender had been in heavy demand from top clubs throughout Europe.

"Clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal and Chelsea have been asking about Lilian," he said.

Many star players are expected to leave Juventus, Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina in the wake of Italy's match-fixing scandal.

Juventus lost Italy's World Cup-winning captain Fabio Cannavaro and Brazil midfielder Emerson to Real Madrid on Wednesday.

 

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Football / Re: Zizou and Materazzi both banned

« on: July 20, 2006, 09:30:41 AM »

Look de beginning of de article here.... feel free to pay de £1 if you want to read de rest of it...

Joan Smith: Zidane a hero? No. He has struck a blow for misogyny

http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_m_z/joan_smith/article1180164.ece

He could have treated the insult with contempt and walked away
Published: 16 July 2006
Professional footballers describe each other as hijo de puta (son of a whore) all the time. They do not mean it literally, and the captain of France, Zinedine Zidane, who was sent off after butting an Italian defender during the World Cup final, can hardly complain about being the recipient of an insult he himself is said to have employed against two referees during the tournament.

I suppose we have to entertain the possibility of linguistic confusion here; I cannot help wondering whether Zidane thought Marco Materazzi had described his mother as an amica di Prescott, which would be truly awful.

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Football / Re: Zizou and Materazzi both banned

« on: July 20, 2006, 09:13:33 AM »

Omarldinho, where did you get this
" In de semis, de ref give a call and zidane call de man "hijo de puta" which means son of a whore.. Where's the inquest here?? When totti spit on de danish man, christian poulsen, it was to retaliate to some abuse, where was the inquest there???"
Could you post the link. Thank you

read it in an article either on bbc or the independent i will look to see if i can find it and post it otherwise just take my word for it on this one   

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Football / Re: Zizou and Materazzi both banned

« on: July 20, 2006, 09:03:52 AM »

I really, really don't agree with the banning Materazzi part... Terrible precedent set by FIFA...

In de semis, de ref give a call and zidane call de man "hijo de puta" which means son of a whore.. Where's the inquest here?? When totti spit on de danish man, christian poulsen, it was to retaliate to some abuse, where was the inquest there???

EPL this year, lewwe watch rooney reel off every cuss in de book on de ref for bad call... Lewwe watch de linesmen in spain get called "hijo de puta" left right and center...

FIFA only acted cause its zidane, i still think his actions were inexcusable... If they ban materazzi for provoking, i hope cause their disciplinary committee have real wuk coming their way...

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General Discussion / Re: ESCAPE FROM LEBANON

« on: July 20, 2006, 08:51:40 AM »

Boy it have ah leader dat take over de iraqi minister comedy role

ah man who LOVE he pork bad bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-rlsysmqo&search=daily%20bush

serious talk bout war and people dying and man talking bout he want pig??? not pork dinner, sausage... pig??

check how angela merkel watching him like wdmc??

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Football / Re: Stern up for promotion test

« on: July 20, 2006, 06:24:01 AM »

man i am not one to knock stern, i real rate up de man.. i find he did well v england too... not so well against paraguay... but i calling it as i see it too....

de play i talking bout... is not like it was a play where he needed to follow what de system say... is not like he try to make a run but he just didn't have de speed.. he just DIDN'T make de run.. DIDN'T try... just jogged and you could see carlos was begging for that outlet.... that is laziness man...

i will tell you ronaldo is a lazy striker too, but he damn good.. it have no faster fatboy around.. so i'm just calling a spade a spade...

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Football / Re: Stern up for promotion test

« on: July 20, 2006, 03:34:54 AM »

i dig in my pocket so i could chook 2 cents too..

is ok if beenhakker give the man a style to play and say, ok you are the stand up and deliver striker, hold up play, knock off, get in there score.. that's all well and good..

But i going and single out one play in de sweden game which sum it up all for me..

we down to 10 men, every man jack on we side working the socks off and stern waiting for it up front... Down in de dregs, sweden decide to throw de kitchen sink and all man jack in we half.... Carlos dispossess a man from his right back position, knock off, collect back.. and ah not lying.... De entire right side of Dortmund stadium was stern and stern alone... All he had to do was sprint, Carlos woulda give him and he gone all de way..

u know de man jogging? TROTTING!!! with no purpose at all, de whole trini section in de stadium bawl out "RUN NAH MAN!" Dat was laziness..

Carlos end up having to play it back to de centre of the park...

lemme see if anyone else remember that play...

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Football / Re: For La Liga fans....

« on: July 20, 2006, 02:22:25 AM »

changing my tune...

atletico will finish in europe for sure, they have a big tune of a coach in Javier Aguirre, and a real good side too...

Sevilla will find that their team is not deep enough for champs league and la liga and will return to mid-table like villareal did last year...

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General Discussion / Re: ESCAPE FROM LEBANON

« on: July 20, 2006, 02:15:33 AM »

Seems this is now a historian/bible-knowing/social studies contest going on here...

everyone bawling, go and read yuh history books and then talk... check revelations... check de factors behind.. you don't know what you talking about i know..

since allyuh know everything post some flecking links and educate all ah we nuh..

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Football / Re: For La Liga fans....

« on: July 19, 2006, 03:07:16 PM »

Ok here's the outlook so far...

Barcelona - Only signing so far is Gudjohsen..  2 times champion possess a team of champions that has matured and grown together over the last 2 seasons with no real disruption to the core.. They know how to win, favorites for next year.. could use cover at the central defense position for puyol because oleguer dont cut it there... Also a clinical centre-forward to cover for eto'o now that larsson is gone.

Real Madrid - Hired Capello, who brings success anywhere he goes.. Just signed Cannavaro and Emerson (yes the news break but i not posting that someone else will)... Capello will make them a strong unit defensively difficult to break down... Attacking wise, robinho should be strong in his second year, and they should get Van Nistelrooy as well and will run barcelona all the way..

Valencia - Always a strong unit, however some age is creeping up in there centre (Baraja, Marchena, Ayala).. There strength is on the wings and they have some good forwards, but will need to make some signings if they want to finish top 4 this year

Villareal - Signed Pires and Nihat, and extended Riquelme's contract.. Nihat will light up this year, a pacy forward with a wicked shot.. I feel they will be 3rd or 4th for sure with their brand of ball... Strong defense and quick counter built around Riquelme.. Probably could use another forward so they could bench jose mari and franco who dont score goals

Sevilla - If they can hold onto their best players, Jesus Navas and Danny Alves, and if Saviola and Fabiano hit top form, they can finish top 4 for sure...

Zaragoza - Very streaky team can either be very, very good or very very bad... They have world class forwards in Ewerthon and Milito and a big defender in G. Milito but would need to last the course of the season.. Look for them in de Cup though..

Deportivo - Got rid of Tristan and no new signings yet.. will finish mid table or lower..

Surprise team or the year I think will be Betis if they can keep Joaquin...

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General Discussion / Re: ESCAPE FROM LEBANON

« on: July 19, 2006, 11:09:12 AM »

TM, hezbollah has a practice of surrounding their people with civilians. they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. they are the face of the modern guerilla - they use the population as a shield. the relationship between the lebanese civilians and hezbollah is more complex. hezbollah does not represent the population nor do they protect the population. they do everything to use the population as a shield.

Ribbit ah think you watchin too much CNN brudda

for real, time to watch some al jazeera, some independent forums and blogs to get the other side of the argument...

not that CNN force-feed sh*t, which will tell you today that Israel incurred "minor casualties" in today's ground invasion, when the truth is hezbollah give dem some tempo on de border...

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Football / Re: Cafu won't quit Brazil team

« on: July 17, 2006, 10:11:54 AM »

it have a next youthman who real impress me...daniel alves i think is his name (the right back from sevilla).   i heard them bandy about his name as a possible contender for the right back slot.    cafu needs to ride off into the sunset.

yeah danny alves is a real boss player.. IMHO better than cicinho because...

- he can defend (he put de black hole on downing in de uefa cup final)
- he can cross
- he can shoot
- he have more brains

liverpool trying hard to get him....

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Football / Falkirk friendly results in farce

« on: July 17, 2006, 08:21:02 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/f/falkirk/5186934.stm

Falkirk's pre-season friendly with Turkish side Rizespor in Holland was abandoned when a fight broke out.
A first-half brawl saw play suspended then the match was stopped on 55 minutes when Turkish players reacted to a streaker celebrating a Falkirk goal.

The Turks had shown up three hours late forcing some fans to miss the game in order to catch flights home.

"We are angry about the inconvenience and possible additional cost for fans," director George Craig told The Herald.
.....



wonder if latas was fighting too???

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Football / Re: My pictures from the World Cup final

« on: July 17, 2006, 02:54:17 AM »

I knew Silvestre always wanted to be a Trini !



and thrurram

Adriano wanted to be a trini too... he real beg me to take this pic with him....   

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Football / Re: Nickname for the new coach

« on: July 15, 2006, 10:13:33 AM »

wimhakker

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Football / Re: FAREWELL TRIBUTE TO DE BOSS...VIDEO!!

« on: July 14, 2006, 09:56:47 AM »

Very few midfielders like Ziande and Latas. Anybody working on a Video tribute to our magician

I found a clip a while back of him at Hibs when they won a game 5-1 or 5-2 when I think he scored 2. Hibs also had a striker with a very long name starting with P. This was wicked video clip but I dont know where to get it. Anyone willing to help?

the striker's name was mixu paatelainen...

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Football / Re: Arsenal looks to strenghten with Saviola

« on: July 13, 2006, 10:29:47 AM »

senderos is a good defender but still have a lil way to come..

he prone to errors, and he's a kinda confidence player too... after drogba advantage him in de community shield, it take some time for him to get over that...

but arsenal have no cover for those positions if he get injured or lose form again, they need 1 or 2 more centre backs.

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Football / Re: ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 13, 2006, 10:25:13 AM »

remember how baggio was remembered even though he is one of if not the greatest player of the last decade??

No how wuz he remembered.?

everyone remembers his missed penalty in the world cup final against brazil.. It real unfair that one penalty devalues a phenomenal career as one of the best italian players ever but sadly thats the way it is..

see the parallels here..

prior to that, baggio was one of the most trusted penalty takers around, no one expected him to miss... he did and it left a mark..

zidane was supposed to sign off his career on a high by gracing the world cup final, no one expected what happened to happen.. that left a mark too

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Football / Re: ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 13, 2006, 10:16:06 AM »

remember how baggio was remembered even though he is one of if not the greatest player of the last decade??

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Football / Re: ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 13, 2006, 09:59:04 AM »

italy will remember...

aside from that nobody cant remember the full 23 of all de world cup winners, but as a footballer, its your lifelong aim and the holy grail.. so it really dont matter who and who don't remember you or not... i guarantee materazzi came off the better..

anyway, under all that zizou is still one of my favorites of all time...long live zz

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Football / Re: ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 13, 2006, 09:52:45 AM »

Years from now he will still be remembered as a legend and mazeratti will be known as "ahm,,de fellah dat de legend headbutt"

correction.... "ahm,, de world cup winner who de legend headbutt"



and zidane will be remembered as, "de legend who butt de man in de final and cause dem to loss"

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Football / Re: ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 13, 2006, 08:48:28 AM »

i agree, some things are certainly bigger than football... Definitely and for sure, family comes first...

but how does a headbutt protect his family's honor, what did that achieve?? materazzi was talking shit, you think he know what zidane mother and sister even look like.. it come like back in secondary school when man bawl out, "eh.. yuh mudda".. and you getting hot and sweaty, "meh mudda wha? meh mudda wha?".. is just talks and that is all...

so national pride, and the hopes and expectations of your nation as well as your millions of fans around the world not bigger than football too??? How you are remembered in your lifetime not bigger than football?? What about your 22 other teammates (especially the ones who ent win it the last time around), who putting their whole life, heart and soul into it?

this ent no pickup sweat, this is a WORLD CUP FINAL..

you know what zidane do come like... it come like france in a war and they put zidane to guard de gate... while he on watch, de enemy start to cuss he mudda and sister so he run out from de gates and gone to fire some wild shot... they hold him, take de key, open de gate, sack france and win de whole war....

how that sounding?

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Football / Re: ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 13, 2006, 05:46:57 AM »

Why is everyone trying to defend Zidane???

Yes, he had a great career, he is an all-time legend, one of my favourite players of all time, but that does not take away from the fact that his actions in the World Cup final was one of the most irresponsible acts in the history of football... Why?

1. He did it at a point when his team were in control of the game, thus negating their ability to press for the win in extra time. He killed his team's momentum and belief, which would have been vital for the penalty shootout
2. He thus handed the initiative, momentum and belief to the italians, and in so doing, handed them the title also, denying his entire nation the title they coveted.
3. He set a terrible example for all his loyal fans and in particular the youths. Before that, if you had an on-field altercation with an opponent, a headbutt would probably be the last thing to come to mind.. But now.. guess what!!!
4. His "wrong and strong" stance, now infers that retaliation is a justified response to provocation. So maybe now eto'o and dem should attack the racist fans too right??
5. There is now an everlasting blotch on the great and glittering career of one of the best players the game has seen.

I really dont see the point in defending zidane... the general slant on this forum seem to be, "well yeah he headbutt de man but..."

but.. but... what?? there's no way what he did couldve been right and if i was materazzi coach and i knew this would be the outcome, i'd tell him to cuss way zidane every match for the rest of his life..

not saying materazzi is right either, but just saying who was happier in the morning, zidane at home sulking or materazzi with he world cup medal and sore chest???

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Football / Re: Arsenal looks to strenghten with Saviola

« on: July 12, 2006, 10:19:13 AM »

REYES  van persie   adabayor   henry  saviola???

arsene how u working out this mix??

saviola is a big player but his style reminds me alot of reyes i think he may be surplus if this deal pulls tru

and roisicky is a midfielder trinigirl

put reyes on de wing....
start henry and saviola up front with henry being withdrawn on de left...
van persie on de bench as first option anytime any one of them fall off form.
and shithound adebayor (drogba brother) on de bench till he prove himself..

Let me know if you want any more tactical advice..

Regards,
Arsene

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Football / Re: Materazzi is a very clean and innocent player

« on: July 12, 2006, 04:03:17 AM »

Fella, it is not my intention to divert Zidane crazy head butt on Materazzi to Materazzi being a nasty player. My point is to show that Materazzi is indeed a dirty player and thus for me people should not show any sympathy for him. I guess that head butt made up for all the wickedness he has done. Yes, Zidane was unprofessional for doing it. No question about that. But Karma is a hell of a thing and I guess Materazzi get a taste of it. I guess you had the wrong perception of my intentions of this thread.

Kingman

well i dont know bout allyuh if i was a nasty, dirty, cheating player and karma had to come back on me for all my bad deeds, i would be more than glad to wake up in the morning with a sore chest and a world cup medal round my neck...

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Football / Re: A lil fun.....Stinkest beat of the WC so far

« on: July 11, 2006, 10:05:29 AM »

pirlo had a kinda whap-whap beat that real men get too especially in his defensive third not too far from his own area..

someone would come biting from de blind side and he would fake like he passing back with his right and flick it in de next direction with he left... nuff men eat that...

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Football / Re: A lil fun.....Stinkest beat of the WC so far

« on: July 11, 2006, 09:02:18 AM »

that wasn't better than when zidane chant bob marley lyrics to ronaldo...

... and who the cap fit... let them wear it......