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General Discussion / Divali with a difference

« on: October 17, 2006, 06:19:54 PM »

With Divali and Eid approaching and the contetntions, true or imaginary, of a perpetual divisiveness in trinidad and tobago i thought it fitting to offer an article i  read that indirectly speaks towards underlying untiy.
 This is just an excerpt-

    Divali the ancient Hindu festival of lights also has meaning and significance for persons who are followers of the Orisha and Spiritual Shouter Baptist faiths. For as long as he can remember Orisha Elder Baba Samuel Phills of Sangre Grande has been lighting deyas and praying to Mother Lakshmi the Goddess of Light on Divali Day at the Kailash Temple in Gonzales, Belmont.
    Baba Sam -as he is fondly called by everyone in Gonzales- explained that he is and has always been a follower of Orisha, the religion of his forefathers. However, as a boy growing up in Gonzales he learnt the Hindu ways of life from his East Indian neighbours and has come to acknowledge that there are no significant differences between Hinduism and Orisha worship.ll religions are about light and spiritual enlightenment, Baba Sam contended. And the Kailash temple is the perfect example of light in the Gonzales community according to Baba Sam who travels there at least once every week to do "pooja" or Hindu prayers.

He said: "Here we speak about light and all the different religious concepts and we see that none is different from the other, and people of different races have always come here to do pooja." He added: "The sun does not discriminate. It shines on everyone. It does not matter where they are from or what race they belong to. The sun is a constant shining light and Divali is just a day set out to honour this light force," he explained. Divali is really a celebration of the light of the inner self. When we light deyas this is an expression of the light which burns in each of us. No human is different from the other: "In the days when I grew up here, there was no Indian or African living here we were all one, you could not see any difference. And the temple was open for everyone. We were always one big family and it is still so for some of us today," Baba Sam said.
          Bearing out his testimony was lay pundit of the Kailash Temple Teerath Sankar. The two men grew up together and they are both quick to point out: "We are brothers and we will always be brothers, that is how we grew up," Baba Sam reflected when he graced Sunday Newsday with an interview at the temple.

Mother Hercules

While Baba Sam's childhood was steeped in Hindu influences which pointed his way to Mother Lakshmi, Mother Dorothy Hercules, a confirmed Spiritual Shouter Baptist for the last 46 years arrived after a somewhat detoured journey.
he related to Sunday Newsday that in July she went to New York for a three month holiday and while there she had a vision. "In this vision I get instructions to do a sit down pooja. The message was so strong I cut short my holidays and came back home early so I could follow this instruction." Two weeks ago Mother Hercules held a Lakshmi pooja at her church according to the instructions she received. She was ably assisted by her East Indian and Hindu neighbour with the preparation of East Indian sweets such as "kurma and prashad" which are essential in such a worship ritual. The pooja itself was conducted by her brother who is also a Spiritual Shouter Baptist. "He get the guidance and we did everything as instructed"

Krishna Beharry       


Also celebrating Divali in his own special will be Orisha Elder Brother Krishna Beharry of La Brea. However, unlike Mother Hercules and Baba Sam however, Brother Krishna prefers to keep things separate and to this end he has both an Orisha palais (altar) as well as a Hindu temple in his yard. He explained that both his parents were Hindus of East Indian descent and while they kept up Divali observances, he's not been too keen. However, after he got married 25 years ago he and his wife started doing poojas and observing Divali at their home.     

He was baptised as a Spritual Shouter Baptist 15 years ago but he continued with his Hindu observances. He described himself as a searcher for the truth and for this reason he started attending Orisha feasts about nine years ago. At every feast he attended, Shango would annoint his body "with oil." This he said was a sign, for one night the spirits spoke to the Elder conducting a feast asking that Brother Krishna be confirmed in the faith. "I resisted that because I was not sure what I was getting into," he said. But the spirits persisted and he eventually gave in and was baptised as an Orisha.

Still he did not depart from his Hindu or Spiritual Shouter Baptist ways but added the Orisha practices to his existing belief system. At present, he, his wife and six children are all "fasting" or abstaining from meat to cleanse their bodies to be able to partake in the pooja and lighting of deyas on Divali Day. On this day his home is usually transformed into a hub of the activities. The villagers have come to expect that on Divali Day a grand Divali meal will be waiting for them at "Brother Krishna house." Interestingly, all three of them expressed immense satisfaction with the fact that the Summary Offences Act has been finally amended.

Baba Sam summed it up thus: "It means that we are finally truly free to express ourselves and convictions without fear of retribution. Now I will be able to talk about my way of worship without being stigmatised. When that Bill was passed it was a great day for me."

Author:
   
Regina Sankar-Øyan

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General Discussion / New shipping company-

« on: October 12, 2006, 08:32:45 PM »

Just learnt about this new shippiing company that caters specifically to meet the needs of ppl who need to ship pacakges and pacels to and from the caribbean.
never used them personally but it "seems" good
 this is the link
http://www.getezone.com/ezxrates.asp

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General Discussion / Yuh Kick Meh Duck!!...the link here!!!!

« on: October 12, 2006, 04:24:03 PM »

I eh know bout allyuh but during my lil trip to trini recently i heard that prack call "yuh kick meh duck" i find it hilarious. Especially since it was a real prank call. lol. It so popular that i heard ah radio station make de man call in and ole talk with them. lol
 OK I GET IT ALLLYUH Listen- TURN YOUR SPEAKERS UP.
http://media.putfile.com/Yuh-Kick-Meh-Duck

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Football / Will the WARRIORNATION crew be attending the games?

« on: September 27, 2006, 06:51:40 PM »

Will you guys have a warrior nation official attendance to the games on the 7th and 11th? if u guys are ..lemme know nah..it have ppl i know wanna attend.

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General Discussion / Pakistan President Pervez Musharaff on the Daily Show

« on: September 27, 2006, 04:33:34 AM »

U know your show big when the president of Pakistan comes on your show to promote his book. Pervez Musharaff spoke canididly about many things. i was shcoked. it seems everyother learder in de world ...even including Manning alot more articulate and have way mor ecommon sense than Bush. Musharaff is obviously well educated and tactful.
Yesterday he had PaT Buchanan on his show and he always ponging Buchanan. When YUH BIG YUH LARGE.

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General Discussion / What does Republic DAY mean to you?

« on: September 24, 2006, 11:49:19 AM »

I just asking this because no one seems to ever say Happy republic day, indeed not even one thread here yet for Independence day it had many greeting and well wishes. Republic day for me is just as or just that more significant than Independence day. Total self governance, no more training wheels on the he bike. As long as trinis fail to appreciate the significance of this day A lot of the negative,colonial mentalties still pervasive in our country will remain.

 So from me to everyone...trini and dual citizens alike

HAPPY REPUBLIC DAY!!!

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General Discussion / A language lost

« on: September 17, 2006, 10:26:09 AM »

"Tou lé jou, nou ka twavay rèd".

Like the majority of Trinidadians, you would probably be scratching your head, wondering what the above sentence means.

It is local patois and translates into "everyday we working hard". There was a time when the majority of the population could understand the language, but that was a long time ago, before it began dying.

The name "patois" was originally used to refer to non-standard regional dialects of French peasants in France. The word means "rough speech" (17th century French) and is thought to have come from "patoier" ("to treat roughly"), ultimately from "patte" ("paw") in Old French.

Patois is a contact language and one born out of contact between and among speakers of vastly different languages in Caribbean islands such as Trinidad, specifically the French colonisers and African slaves. (Patois in Trinidad: Did you Know? by the Department of Liberal Arts, UWI).

Pardon my patois

Parang impresario Holly Betaudier, who also hosts a programme on I95.5 called Toute Bagai (the patois for "everything"), told the Sunday Express that the patois was originally a language of necessity created by the African slaves to communicate with their masters.

He noted that the French never taught slaves their language but the English did. When the British system was brought in, the colonisers taught everyone to speak their language and the patois became a "bastard" language.

Betaudier's parents came from Martinique and his grandmother, who raised him, only spoke the patois to him. He recalled going to school and one day the whole class laughing at him because he was talking English with a patois accent.

He said that during that time, if a student couldn't speak English, he was considered "less than a dog". He added that to get employment, people had to speak and write in English, and the patois was considered "degrading", so only older people spoke it.

Betaudier noted that the original calypsoes were sung in the patois, but eventually they became anglicised, though vestiges remain, such as the refrain "santimanitay" in extempo ("sans humanité" translated as "without mercy").

Derek Parker, French teacher at Trinity College, Maraval, who also studies linguistics, informed the Sunday Express that the patois was widely spoken by the population in the 1890s-among roughly 70 per cent of the common people of the country.

But by the 1920s, the language began to "die" in a visible way and in the 1940s and 1950s, the patois-speaking population had been reduced to an estimated 15 per cent.

And what about today?

Parker estimated that it has reduced even further, with maybe six per cent with a real working knowledge of the language. He noted, however, that though you find a minute number of people who speak it fluently, especially in rural Trinidad, you can find people anywhere who understand or speak a phrase or two in the patois. He added that a lot of them were not aware that it was the patois they were speaking.

The language continues to flourish in communities like Valencia, Blanchisseuse, Toco, Arima and Santa Cruz; and in Paramin, it also survives in the form of Christmas Kwèch (crèche) music (Patois in Trinidad).

Parker noted that another major activity that celebrates the language in that community is the patois mas held every Sunday before Carnival and conducted almost entirely in the language by a native patois-speaking priest or one from St Lucia or Guadeloupe. It is also attended by patois speakers from all over Maraval and various parts of the country, as well as visitors from Martinique, Haiti,

Guadeloupe, France, as well people interested in indigenous languages.

Augustine Fournillier, 90, of Balatta Trace, Paramin, has been speaking the language since she was eight years old, and during the interview she broke frequently into the patois (though without translation).

The mother of 13 and grandmother of about 30 said that plenty people in the community speak it and she "cannot finish check" how many. She recalled that the patois was once referred to as a "hog language".

Betaudier said that even today there is disdain about speaking any other way than English, and he has suffered a lot of criticism from it.

Swan song for patois?

He noted that besides discrimination, the patois became a secretive language for another reason, as parents would use it as a code language to keep their children from understanding what they were saying. He said the children were encouraged to go to "English school" and learn.

"They talk patois without handing it down to the younger ones," he noted.

Augustine's son, Winston Fournillier, 64, also recalled some parents using the patois as a clandestine language. He, however, did teach it to his children and while some of the older children in the community were trying to learn it, the younger ones "doh want that, they find that too broken".

Winston noted that young parents also did not want to speak patois to children because they believe it is an "insult".

"It is really dying out among the younger folks, but the old people always talk their patois; wherever they meet, they talk their little patois," said Monica Fournillier, 74, and cousin-in-law to Augustine.

She also attempted to teach it to her children, but they resisted; and she was not sure why Indo-Trinidadians were able to pass on Hindi words and phrases to their children.

She said that she has a grand-daughter, however, who always asks questions about the patois and has shown an interest in learning it. She predicted that after a time, younger people will take it up.

Monica advised that to revive the language, they should be talking it in schools, in church and at home, and parents should "bawl" at children and use the patois to spark their interest.

Augustine said that previously, the patois was looked down upon, though some want to bring it back "to put in a book". She suggested that parents could teach their children, but doubted that it could be taught formally.

"They cannot teach somebody a proper patois in school," she said.

Winston said that older people could teach children from about four or five years, possibly starting with kitchen words. He added that it could be introduced in the formal school system.

Parker said that over the past ten to 12 years, there have been attempts to revive the language, mostly at the academic level.

UWI scholars and interested persons have undertaken many projects to document and preserve the language in Trinidad and throughout the region. Courses in French Creole are currently offered at the Centre for Language Learning (CLL) and the Department of Liberal Arts, both of the Faculty of Humanities and Education (Patois in Trinidad).

Parker said the future for the patois was not in the hands of the authorities or Government, and he does not think "they have any clue" as to the real value of foreign languages to this country or its people.

"The future of the patois depends almost entirely on the people who are most passionate about it," he commented.

He said these people included those interested in the old Carnival traditions, as the patois is deeply tied to its language, and people who were very committed to bringing it to the young people at secondary schools and at the university level. He noted that every movement, including the one to revive the patois, needs its leaders.

Betaudier said that he was unsure if the dying language could be revived because the population is so pro-English and so snobbish to "folk things". But he, like many other people, would like to see it happen.

- Next week, the Sunday Express

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General Discussion / Who worse degenetrate trinis or steve irwin

« on: September 08, 2006, 02:38:02 PM »

I just read a different take on the cric hunter..
its funny
dais y i liek to read bc..he is trini answer to john stewart

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_opinion?id=161009991

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General Discussion / Who is to blame? The youths or adults?

« on: August 29, 2006, 07:17:33 PM »

   Now to begin my topic let me just say the subject header is rehtorical! I woudl like this thread to be positive and be a disscussion.
   I am a relative newbie to this forum. Prior to my joining i had been observing the going-ons for some months. Football made me visit but the vibe and people made me stay. I was of the opnion (one which i still maintain) that by and large the people who grace this forum are a good representation   (i would hope) of what we would like trini to be portayed as.
Now ot the matter at hand. Lately however the ole talk and picong has morphed into disrespect. There are people of all ages  and sex "in" here and everyone of us...of every age should eb aware of that. Disrespect by the younger members to older members shouldnt be tolerated, indeed any disrespcet shouldnt but grant me a min let me try to explain in my long winded method of typing.
   If 2 adults engage in cussin and bacanal then thats thier affair to the extent that they adults, i am nto syaing its right i am saying its adults. Nonetheless in no way shoudl the disrespect of minors be tolerated to the elders in here ..and by elders i refer to age not lentgh of time on the forum.
I am, as guilty as every other adult in here of not nipping it in the bud and in fact to encouraging it eithe r by giving basket or by sheer indifference. 
     I decided to write this after having a conversation with anohter forumite and looking at an argument back and forth between 2 other individuals. Worse has been said in this forum , much worse but its not what had been said..but to whom the posts had been directed and the level of respect that was displayed.
   I have utmost respect for both posters, but the younger of the 2 said things that would have led to my permanent dependance on false teeth if i had said as youth man growing up.  Let me interate its not what was said its the manner of respect displayed.
      There is no way disresect by a teenager to someone over the age of  30 should be fostered. My mother once apologised to me and said..that her generation had failed ours. Is this cycle to continue?
i hope not!!
 i know i share my ideas un co hesively at times. I am jus typing now as things come to mind, only care i am taking is with my typing.
 i dont know why the mods didnt do somehting about it? 

 Younger ones regardless of intelligence or "maturity" will quicker immmate thier elders, than adults will other adults. More or less we set in our ways for good or bad. They still definenig themsleves. impressionable.. whether they feel so or not.
when we encourage the talk,  we not encouraging jus picong we encouraging the burgenoning  lack of morals in our society
 i dont know what kind of reaction this will cause. i hope it does lead to some action. i would really hate for this forum to degenerate into a rum shop..no wait i am worng not rum shop. PInto Rd arima ...tha tis what i am afraid it end up like.. It have to many educated pesons and  professionals in here to allow this to happen. i done for now. i will modify as i see fit.
 lord fadda i just read what i wrote and i sorry for you guys when u ahve to read it. However i wrote it as it came to mind.
  i know alot of ppl will scoff at this and alot will have "other" opnions ot render.. fuh now i done.
   
   
 

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General Discussion / Former president of T&T passes

« on: August 25, 2006, 09:46:25 AM »

Former president Noor Hassanali...has passed
 god rest his soul

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General Discussion / To brush or not to brush... would u?

« on: August 21, 2006, 06:32:11 PM »

By the end of this thread allyuh ppl go say i eh have nuttin to do and like real shit talk but.

During a conversation between myself and another forumite (female) about a mutual acquaitance..... i learnt that said mutual acquaitaince had  a severe case of body odour. In trini terms she does buss nose, vamp funkie. MY fellow forumite infomed me that the smell was so bad u wouldnt be able to eat .

Now i only know the mutual acquaintance(woman) online via a next person (lord this world small), so i have never actually met this person so i eh know if the ole factory nodes, ie nose, woulda be attacked.
so the fellow forumite asked me if i wanted to am " smell de nanny for myself".
i was like am..no.  and even if i was considering it...not any more  .lol

any how the forumite gave me a hypothetical situation
say u was ina fete and yuh bounce up ah bess thing??reach home tite? things going nice, yuh getting through and thing eh. when d alco start to wear off yuh realise somethin smellin.
 u saying to yuh self  "but i eh fart and i sure i put on deordrant, so what up?" wel when clothes drop u realise it could be a case of sweaty party bumcee...but extreme, but lo and behold its a case of full body"halitosis".
 NOW THE QUESTION WOULD U BRUSH? AS THE FORUMITE POSED - yuh bull from front or behind....downwind

WOULD DAT EVEN HELP?
and next thing u did brush and saying to yuh self" nah maybe it was ha one time thing and let me go on ah next date jus to make sure. and u relaise dred better your were still drunk.........

i know nuff men who doh cater woulda be dey normal even eating maybe(but dais pinto men form arima dem is a special breed)..but i wanna hear what some of your opnions are
 I SERIOUS EH LEMME KNOW

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General Discussion / strangest trini nicknames

« on: August 18, 2006, 09:53:12 AM »

ah man statement on de mutual acquaintances thread make meh decide to start this..unless as a later comer it hasnt already begun
1. b-o
2. press cun*
3.hawk/corbeau
4.baby-boo boop

this next one is a case of fact being stranger than "fiction". it had a dude whose nick name was oliver...his real name is Sphantus Gumps (pronounced ssssssss-fan-tas)
i kid u not

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Top 100 Calyypsos of the 20th century

« on: August 18, 2006, 07:31:00 AM »

i dont know if this wa sposted already but if it wasnt then

1      progress - King Austin (Austin Lewis) 1980
2.   Portrait of Trinidad - Mighty Sniper (Mervyn Hodge) 1965
3.   Jean and Dinah - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1956
4.   Bassman - Mighty Shadow (Winston Bailey) 1974
5.   Fire in Your Wire - Calypso Rose (McArthur Lewis) 1967
6.   High Mas - David Rudder (David Rudder) 1998
7.   Dan is the Man - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1963
8.   Maria - Lord Blakie (Carlton Joseph) 1962
9.   If the Priest Could Play - Mighty Cypher (Dillary B Scott) 1967
10.   The Sinking Ship - Gypsy (Winston Peters) 1986
11.   Jahaji Bhai - Brother Marvin (Selwyn Demming) 1996
12.   God Bless Our Nation - Lord Baker (Kent King) 1967
13.   Rainorama - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1973
14.   Steelband Clash - Lord Blakie (Carlton Joseph) 1954
15.   The Road - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1963
16.   Yankee Dollar (Rum and Coca Cola) - Lord Invader (Rupert Grant) 1946
17.   Mama Look A Boo Boo - Lord Melody (Fitzroy Alexander) 1956
18.   Lazy Man - Mighty Dougla (Clatis Ali) 1961
19.   Caribbean Unity - Black Stalin (Leroy Calliste) 1979
20.   The Slave - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1963
21.   Child Training - Mighty Composer (Fred Mitchell) 1969
22.   Love in the Cemetery - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1963
23.   Matilda - King Radio (Norman Span) 1938
24.   Little Black Boy - Gypsy (Winston Peters) 1997
25.   Federation - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1962
26.   Burn Dem - Black Stalin (Leroy Calliste) 1987
27.   Ice Man (aka Ice Ice) - Lord Melody (Fitzroy Alexander) 1960
28.   Rich Man Poor Man - Lord Brynner (Kade Simon) 1960
29.   Um Ba Yao - Merchant (Dennis F. Williams) 1978
30.   La La - Lord Nelson (Robert Nelson) 1976
31.   Nature's Plan - Johnny King (Johnston King) 1984
32.   Poverty is Hell - Shadow (Winston Bailey) 1994
33.   The Will - Scrunter (Owen Reyes Johnson) 1982
34.   Tourist Leggo - Short Shirt ( Emmanuel McLean ) 1976/7
35.   Trouble in Arima - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1954
36.   Ten to One is Murder - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Fra1ncisco) 1960
37.   Lorraine - Explainer (Winston Henry) 1982
38.   Ganges and the Nile - David Rudder (David Rudder) 1999
39.   Come Leh We Go Sookie - King Fighter (Shurland Wilson) 1964
40.   Dustbin Cover - Crazy (Edwin Ayoung) 1978
41.   Joan and James (aka Five Little Popos) - Mighty Bomber (Clifton Ryan) 1964
42.   Life is A Stage - Brother Valentino (Emrold Phillips) 1972
43.   Mama Dis is Mas - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1964
44.   Pan Talent - Mighty Terror (Fitzgerald Henry) 1965
45.   For Cane - Gypsy (Winston Peters) 1972
46.   Mary Anne - Roaring Lion (Raphael De Leon) 1946
47.   Severe Licking - Baron (Timothy Watkins) 1971
48.   Watch Out My Children - Ras Shorty I (Garfield Blackman) 1989
49.   Split Me in Two - Mighty Dougla (Clatis Ali) 1961
50.   Ras Mas - Explainer (Winston Henry) 1981
51.   My Pussin - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1965
52.   Mama Popo - Brigo (Samuel Abraham) 1960s?
53.   Black is Beautiful - Duke (Kelvin Pope) 1969
54.   Money is King - Growling Tiger (Neville Marcano) 1935
55.   Juba Dubai - Chalkdust (Hollis Liverpool) 1977
56.   A Mother's Love - Destroyer (Donald Glasgow) 1941
57.   Too Much Man Family - Mighty Zandolie (Sylvester Anthony) 1967
58.   King Liar - Lord Nelson (Robert Nelson) 1977
59.   Melda (Obeah Wedding) - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1966
60.   The Mecca - Brother Mudada (Alan Fortune) 1987
61.   Mr. Walker - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1968
62.   The Bedbug - Mighty Spoiler (Theophilus Phillip) 1953
63.   Congo Man - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1965/1989
64.   Pan in A Minor - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1987
65.   Education - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1967
66.   People Will Talk - King Fighter (Shurland Wilson) 1962
67.   Flag Woman - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1976
68.   Gavaskar - Relator (Willard Harris) 1972
69.   Soca Baptist - Blueboy ( Austin Lyons ) 1980
70.   Steel and Brass - King Wellington (Wellington Quashi) 1973
71.   Norman - Merchant (Dennis F. Williams) 1978
72.   Indrani - Lord Shorty (Garfield Blackman) 1972
73.   Never Ever Worry - Lord Pretender (Alric Farrell) 1962
74.    Is Thunder - Duke (Kelvin Pope) 1987
75.   Run the Gunslingers - Lord Caruso (Emmanuel Pierre) 1959
76.   Papa Chunks - Roaring Lion (Raphael De Leon) 1941/1995
77.   Scrunting Calypsonian - Trinidad Rio (Daniel Brown) 1978
78.   Supposing - Mighty Composer (Fred Mitchell) 1964
79.   Pan in Danger - Merchant (Dennis F. Williams) 1985
80.   The Bionic Man - Maestro (Cecil Hume) 1977
81.   What is Calypso? - Mighty Duke (Kelvin Pope) 1968
82.   Voices From the Ghetto - Singing Sandra (Sandra De Vignes) 1999
83.   The Graf Zeppelin - Atilla the Hun (Raymond Quevedo) 1934
84.   The Five Rules of Calypso - Mighty Fearless (Mikey Hamit) 1966
85.   Santa - King Solomon (Samuel Ryan) 1961
86.   Miss Tourist - Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) 1968
87.   The Outcast - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1963
88.   Women and Money - Mighty Conqueror (Leroy Paul) 1962
89.   Brown Skin Girl - King Radio (Norman Span) 1933
90.   Die with My Dignity - Singing Sandra (Sandra De Vignes) 1987
91.   Black Man Come to Party - Black Stalin (Leroy Calliste) 1991
92.   Ma and Pa - Lord Creator (Kenrick Patrick) 1965
93.   Obey the Highway Code - Magic (A. Rampersad) 1960s?
94.   Never Hang Your Hat - Lord Cristo (Christopher Laidlow) 1967
95.   Chinese Children - Mighty Terror (Fitzgerald Henry) 1950
96.   May May - Mighty Sparrow (Slinger Francisco) 1960
97.   Raycan - Lord Shortshirt (Hector Emmanuel) 1977
98.   Soul Chick - Funny (Donric Williamson) 1973
99.   Don't Interfere - The Hawk (Kenneth Haywood) 1961
100.   Woman on the Bass - Scrunter (Owen Reyes Johnson) 1980
                                                                                          courtesy Kaisoca International

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General Discussion / Dubai and the palm islands

« on: August 14, 2006, 09:27:46 AM »

 the dubai government has put into plans that will make it the leading world tourist site for the fabulously wealthy...when thier oil and natral gas reserves run out.
it started with the DUBAI BURJ al ALARB HOTEL.....ITS ACKNOWLEDGED AS HE best hotel in the world. the only 7 star hotel.
they then went on and made the palm islands.
now they have plans for the hydroplois underwater hotel
its just interesteing to see that some smart governments relaising its time to diversiy..where as trini's own ina  spending binge while experts syaing tirnidad gas reserves has only about 12-15 yrs remining. y then would u build smelter plants etc.


some links... from the aformentioned developments...the dubai ones not that kiss meh as ssmelter plant

http://www.burj-al-arab.com/

http://www.thepalm.ae/

http://realestate.theemiratesnetwork.com/developments/dubai/palm_deira.php

http://www.hydropolis.com/

http://realestate.theemiratesnetwork.com/developments/dubai/world_islands.php

take a look interesting pics

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General Discussion / Where was Cana?

« on: August 07, 2006, 11:50:46 AM »

ah few ppl chain me up and although i dont like bacanal and confusion( money pass) i will bump meh gum.
I was tasked with starting this thread. A certain member was conspiciously absent yesterday. PPL even admittied that this person was the main reason they came to the sweat. so i ask the Question. Cana/Muff/Rookmin y didn tu grace us wiht your presence yesterday.....arent we worthy enough?

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Football / Cricket or no cricket for de caribana sweat!

« on: August 02, 2006, 07:47:32 AM »

the name says it all vote asap

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Cricket Anyone / No cricket in canada.

« on: July 21, 2006, 10:13:02 PM »

Canada decline to host ODI series

Cricinfo staff

July 21, 2006


   
Indian fans in Canada will have to hold on the cheering
Canada has declined to host the proposed one-day series between India and the West Indies in September. Lalit Modi, the BCCI vice-president, has disclosed that the Indian board received confirmation from the Canada Cricket Association (CCA) of their unwillingness to host the series this year.

Although the West Indies Cricket Board's increasingly desperate attempts to stage a much-needed fund-raising one-day series has been stalled by Canada's refusal to act as hosts, it has now started planning a tournament at home in January.

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General Discussion / lyrics...old vs new

« on: July 21, 2006, 07:03:21 AM »

aye allyuh i wa slistenin to tobago gyul last night(thnaks dutty) and i was thingking long time men had real lyrics that what make trini man so am...good..de gift of gab. we could well talk we  wey into draws.lol
 i jus asking allyuh to rest some lyrics down..men and women...and de guys go say which is de best form de women..and vice versa. i eh saying none.. i jus reading...(with meh men and paper )...but i go start allyuh off with some ah sparrow lyrics from de song..now this song real long so is jus some excerpts..unless tallman come to de rescue..lol

"all dem tobago gyul
thick thick thick thick
like a new sponge ball
them from mason hall eh easy at all
pretty as a doll
me ah love dem sweet tobago gyul"

i have been east west north and south
i have seen women all about
but they cannot compare
with these u have down here
when they walking back ground shaking
pretty eyes and teeth that jus seem to glow
what they eatign i would really like to know
what they drinking. have dme so i would like to know

all dem  tobago gyul
sweet sweet sweet like ah kzar(kaiser) ball
boroughs u can call
or bring interpol
fus ah love meh sweet tobago gyul

god take he own hands to shape tobago woman.......

so much beauti all around me
this place have meh heart controling meh head......
 my favorite pieice ah lyrics ...your country is pure bliss for a piligamist
....i see hope here this is utopia......
 and lastly...
anytime they call
if i have to crawl like ah ole football(i guess dais when de sweat rice take effect)
ah rolling straight to my tobago gyul
ok dais it. just to start of..so lemme hear allyuh
BTW NO DINNER MINT LYRICS PLEASE

if i

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / The Good Old Days

« on: July 20, 2006, 12:51:16 PM »

Now stop me if u all heard this on this forum already i will take it off but..

f you were a child of the 80s and early 90s in Trinidad, you might
>> >remember:
>> >
>> >giving someone and receiving a meggie
>> >
>> >collecting empty tic-tac containers for the smell, filling them
>>with water
>> >then drinking it
>> >
>> >you filled empty orchard cartons with air and jumped on it to
>>make a
>> >popping noise to scare someone
>> >
>> >you screamed at the faintest sound of thunder
>> >
>> >getting licks with a guava whip or a wooden ruler with a metal
>>strip on the
>> >side
>> >
>> >when push point pencils were in style
>> >
>> >when stationery on a whole was in style, nice erasers were
>>prized: scented
>> >and colourful, sharpeners shaped like hamburgers
>>or mechanical pencils and
>> >pilot pens, fine-point preferably
>> >
>> >when 'Bata' was not in style but you had to wear one anyway
>> >
>> >carrying ah lunch kit with a thermos flask inside
>> >
>> >reading Enid Blyton, Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys, Judy Blume,
>>Sweet Dreams
>> >or Sweet Valley High.
>> >
>> >wearing VERY ying, very short, very tight khaki pants to school
>> >
>> >wearing socks with frills
>> >
>> >wearing panties with frills on the back
>> >
>> >the Coca-Cola yo-yo craze
>> >
>> >how handwriting was a big thing in primary school among girls,
>>you wrote
>> >extremely small and extremely neat with care
>> >
>> >at some point in time, having to ask someone or be asked: a. if
>>yuh father
>> >is a glass maker b. if yuh have ants in yuh pants c. if yuh
>>monkey glands
>> >acting up
>> >
>> >you loved
>>pencil cases and you wanted a nice one shaped like a giant pencil
>> >with a zip on one end
>> >
>> >holding hands with a another girl or boy to go somewhere on an
>>outing
>> >(everybody, find ah partner!) meant that he/she was your good
>>friend
>> >
>> >you were a Brownie or a Cub Scout, no one was quite sure what
>>'Red Cross'
>> >people did except you called them if somebody fell down
>> >
>> >having your skin stained for days with iodine after you fell
>> >
>> >boys making guns out of paper and shooting each other
>> >
>> >saying "ABC, ketch ah crab, put it in ah paper bag" to some First
>>years or
>> >Second years
>> >
>> >you read "Lucky Dip" and West Indian Readers
>> >
>> >pennycools costing 25 cents
>> >
>> >getting excited over the sight of three red beans sprouting on a
>>wet piece
>> >of toilet paper in an old
>>mayonaise jar
>> >
>> >eating condensed milk from the can, tomato balls, paradise plums,
>>chilibibi
>> >and planter's snacks
>> >
>> >wearing poppies on Poppy Day was a fashion statement
>> >
>> >cheese paste sandwiches with food colouring on Kiss bread cut in
>>triangles
>> >
>> >playing "in ah fine castle, do you hear my sissy-o", "I lost my
>>glove on a
>> >Saturday night and found it Sunday morning..."
>> >
>> >the smell of whitening your shoes
>> >
>> >in primary school, you methodically collected eraser shavings
>> >
>> >Netball, Rounders and cricket was serious business!
>> >
>> >reciting time tables
>> >
>> >you played catch, red-light/green-light, there's a brown girl in
>>the ring
>> >and hand clapping games till your palms stung
>> >
>> >a re-fashioned balloon was called ah chikey-chong
>> >
>> >You been to
>>Cleverwoods at least twice for a class outing.
>> >
>> >Who had the most and prettiest Barbie dolls used to run tings.
>> >
>> >you made those fortune telling finger toys from copy book paper
>> >
>> >You used to recite the National pledge everyday, "I solemnly
>>swear to
>> >dedicate my life to the service of my God and my country..." But
>>you cyar
>> >remember it now!
>> >
>> >having to religiously support some curry-q, bar-b-q or chinee-q
>>for the
>> >school
>> >
>> >singing parang in a school Christmas concert or a folk song,
>> >"mangoes...mangoes.."
>> >
>> >if you went to Catholic primary school: prayers, prayers and more
>> >prayers.
>> >
>> >Teens of the 90s (early to mid) in Trinidad, you might remember:
>> >
>> >fellas got an earring too-just one
>> >
>> >football limes and Intercol
>> >
>> >no matter
>>where you went to school, Trinity College seemed so far away
>> >
>> >your identity was defined by your school, there were girls and
>>then there
>> >were "Convent girls" (be that good, bad or indifferent)
>> >
>> >red band maxis and their hard pong
>> >
>> >you hoarded coloured ink pens
>> >
>> >you stressed about SBAs in Form 4 and 5
>> >
>> >if you travelled home, you had to lime first before you got there
>> >
>> >CXC lessons and the lessons' lime
>> >
>> >boys hitting school desks to start a chanting session
>> >
>> >maxis and maxi conductors were the scourge of Secondary school in
>>these
>> >days, parents were always complaining about them
>> >
>> >you knew at least one girl who was "dealing" with a maxi-man
>>Knight Rider,
>> >Street Hawk and Mc Gyver

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General Discussion / ole time myths, recepies and parctices- EASILY OFFENDED BEWARE!!

« on: July 14, 2006, 11:47:56 AM »

I am going to start ah lil discussion about some ole time sayings and practices. i dont know how true they are but they funny none the less...2 other forumites..i not going to call kandii and jodie names cause i know how allyuh does think.  at any rate......things like

SWEAT RICE-(OF WHICH I HEAR DUTTY IS A FORMOST AUTHORITY.. A CONNOISSEUR IF U WILL).. a woman squats over a steaming bowl of rice and lets her vaginal fluids sweat into the rice. done to trap men.
 GANGA CHANNA
JADOO
STAY HOME
AND LEF HAND DUMPLING
a counter to these threats to the men..is as i heard to eat ear wax..any time u goign to eat by ah woman who sweet on u. (personally my mother just told me keep away form country women)

ALSO...HAS ANYONE HEARD ABOUT INDIAN WOMEN MASSGAING THIER DAUGHTERS...AM....VAGINAS WITH COCONUT OIL  TO MAKE IT FAT.  HOW TRUE IS DAT ANY FEMLAE AM...KNOWS ABOUT IT FIRST HAND?

any one know the recipies for the rest....
thanks to de research team..sorry i can call those to ladies names.....

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Football / FAREWELL TRIBUTE TO DE BOSS...VIDEO!!

« on: July 13, 2006, 11:49:35 AM »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8451296196135992907

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Football / ZIdane reveals all

« on: July 12, 2006, 02:34:17 PM »

PARIS - French soccer star Zinedine Zidane apologized for head-butting an Italian opponent during the World Cup final, saying Wednesday that he was provoked by insults about his mother and sister.

I apologize, to all the children" who watched the match Sunday, Zidane said in his first, highly-awaited comments about the act of violence that marked the end of his career.

Zidane did not specify exactly what Italian defender Marco Materazzi said that enraged him, but that it was insulting to his sister and mother.

"I would rather have taken a punch in the jaw than have heard that," Zidane said, stressing that Materazzi's language was "very harsh."

Zidane and Materazzi exchanged words after Italy broke up a French attack in extra-time. Seconds later, Zidane lowered his head and rammed Materazzi in the chest, knocking him to the ground.

Zidane was sent off, reducing France to 10 men. Italy went on to win in a penalty shootout.

The France captain said he felt no regret for his act, "because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that."

At nearly the same moment Zidane was appearing on French TV, excerpts from an interview that Materazzi gave to Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport were posted on the newspaper's Web site.

"I didn't say anything to him about racism, religion or politics," Materazzi told the Gazzetta. "I didn't talk about his mother either. I lost my mother when I was 15 and even now I still get emotional talking about her. Naturally, I didn't know his (mother) was in the hospital, I give her my best wishes."

"He's always been my hero, I admire him a lot."

For days, sports fans around the world have been riveted by the question: What could Materazzi have said to set Zidane off? Media from Brazil to Britain hired lip readers to try to figure it out, then came up with different answers.

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics.

Materazzi spoke to Zidane in Italian. Zidane, who played for several years at Turin club Turin, speaks Italian.

Despite the head-butt, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball award for best player at the World Cup — though FIFA president Sepp Blatter has suggested Zidane could be stripped of the honor.

"The winner of the award is not decided by FIFA, but by an international commission of journalists," Blatter said in Italian newspaper La Repubblica. "That said, FIFA's executive committee has the right, and the duty, to intervene when faced with behavior contrary to the ethics of the sport."

In France, many have already pardoned Zidane, even without his explanation. A poll published Tuesday in Le Parisien newspaper showed that 61 percent of the 802 people questioned forgave Zidane.

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Football / Best world cup goal!!

« on: July 11, 2006, 08:52:38 AM »

now fellas we know it had tons of goals and if u eh like the ones i chose just hit othter: and make your claim. if real ppl like it i gonna add ti ok. MY BEST GOAL WAS ZIDANE AND NOT JUST CAUS EI THINK HE IS A BOSS. BUT TO  HAVE DE ADUCITY TO CHIP AH KEEPER AH BUFFON CLASS(HE IS DE BEST DOH FOOL ALLYUH SELVES) IN THE WC FINAL.... HMMMMM HMMMMMMM DE MAN IS A BOSS..AND TELL ME ALLYUH EVER SEE AH HEAD BUTT LIKE THAT. DAt was ah boss head butt to. he kept he eyes on de man chest and butt in your mudda puefin. at any rate dat penalty was de best.state allyuh peace/ piece.

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Football / GTA LIME@HARDBALL CAFE FOR DE WORLD CUP FINALS.

« on: July 04, 2006, 09:17:08 PM »

FELLAS DE LIME FOR DE FINALS ON SUNDAY IS @HARDBALL. WHO WILL BE THERE  LET YOUR SELF BE KNOWN.  THE FEMALE MEMBER OF SW are encouraged to come out also. The female members need to represent.also. seeu guys sunday.

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Jokes / "News of the weird"..updated stories

« on: July 04, 2006, 07:07:02 PM »

In May, The Times of London reported on Japan's Shingo Village, which is well known to locals, and practically no one else, as the burial place of Jesus Christ. According to documents written in ancient Japanese, Jesus supposedly moved to Shingo from Jerusalem as a young man, married Miyuko, became a farmer, and died at age 106. However, that cannot be true, according to Katherine Jhawarelall, 35, a Hindu woman with a criminology degree, living in Durban, South Africa, because she is certain that she herself is Jesus Christ (after awakening one day in 2004 with a swollen arm containing a miracle-producing stigmata), according to a report in Durban's Post. [The Times (London), 5-29-06] [Hindustan Times-Indo-Asian News Service, 5-24-06]

Weirdo-American Community
n June, another client who did her own lawyering, eccentric Susan Polk, was convicted of murdering her husband, after a long trial in Martinez, Calif., in which she spent two weeks on the witness stand as both questioner and witness (and in a judge-allowed departure, as her deep-voiced husband, as she re-created their conversations). Polk also told the jury that she is psychic, that she called the Sept. 11 attacks in advance, that her husband was an Israeli intelligence agent that she once foiled an assassination attempt on the pope, and that Colin Powell is the Antichrist. [San Francisco Chronicle, 5-18-06; New York Times, 6-17-06]

Creme de la Weird
n May, a judge in Reno, Nev., sentenced Raymond Russell George, 58, to five consecutive life sentences for molesting three young girls over a two-year period, but George said he welcomes the prison time because it will give him a chance to use his comprehensive knowledge of the Bible to help inmates find Jesus. George is notorious also for his dreadful inattention to hygiene, which he said is necessary to keep fellow prisoners (his potential congregants) from getting too close to him. (Otherwise, he said, they "flick boogers at me and fart in my face.") [Reno Gazette-Journal, 5-17-06]

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Vintage kaiso/PURE SMUT

« on: June 29, 2006, 12:02:02 PM »

this is some excerpts from some classic kaiso....by de king of smut zandolie.  and no it is not links....i writing them..lol
 Merchant of venice-
No woman ent getting meh money with out security, unless they bring ah lil dog or fat LIL cyat Oor some kinda property, cause i am the merchant of venice, lending moeny on interest is meh buisness . so if u want my money is a Pong  ah your flesh for security.

Iron man
well the police arrest me for my own material that shouldnt be, 2 police woman arrested zando..way down in mayaro, i decided to make an invention so i surround meh house with iron........ it was 5 o clock in de morning 2 police woman came searching and before i coudl put on meh clothes all emh  iron expose.
last verse-- well this was bacanal..the following day was meh trial...if u see woman in side de place and is a woman magristrate trying the case.. but after the police give evidence she call on me for my defence,  but she say before she come to a conclusion she have to come to your house to inspect this iron.... she came by me in a jitney..to examine de iron persoanlly..but when she left i wa shappy she take all de iron and set me free.
STICKMAN
wellll ah female stick player name winnie, living sangre grande  she put an ad in de guardian, she say open competition, she is de best stick player in grande and she playing anybody... so i walk on she carnival day to see if she could really play.... so we carreyyyyyyyyy in d e back ah de alley only me and she.. i crawl on me knees and charge she de first bois under she belly ..... she brakes the bois and back back , watch meh fix in meh eye and laugh...i get delarious and charge she 3 in succsession....meh wood break in half
laters verse....
it was getting late in de evening and ppl start gathering so ah ole stickman name joe pringay lend me ah stick to play... now ah charging like ha crazy and she only backing form me.. she said i didnt know u coulda play stick so..or meh lord o begging meh pardon zando.. nwo she scramble on to meh bois  with she 2 hand playing tug a war.. ah say leggo leggo leggo woman..what u doing that for...now it slip outta she hand begging meh to stop...ah say it wood make u bawl , is wood make u fall is wood to make u get up.
lol it have more...but i tired..lol

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Cricket Anyone / THE 24 RUN OVER

« on: June 23, 2006, 09:17:52 AM »

Sarwan hit 24 runs in one over. only 4 runs short of laras 28, agaisnt peterson  of SF in the 2003/2004 season.

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Football / Toronto crew@hardball Tnt Vs Paraguy

« on: June 23, 2006, 09:08:26 AM »

                        Dragon here real jolly before the game( how much drinks thus far)

    grandeman, chinne boi, mrs chinne boi, dragon

 one and only ras i..opposing some one 

ras i  and his cousins.

knocking some all4's after de game.(hanging man jack did help ease de pain)

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2006 World Cup - Germany / Pics of the toronto crew. tnt v england

« on: June 16, 2006, 10:31:11 AM »

from left to right- dude in blue, jr sams organic,dutty, grande man (in back with hat) fela in white, ras i (go figure no dredon he head), ras i bro


 ras i's bro,jr sams, ras i, organic, grande man, dutty


dutty and ras


                          yes grande we all feeling de same way


doh worry dutty not going to rush ras i

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Cricket Anyone / ANTI LARA UMPIRING

« on: June 14, 2006, 02:07:23 PM »

NOW i know recently there has been some tla about bad umpriing calls. but y so uhc seem to eb going agaisnt the WI and specifically lara. its absolutly ridiculous. they shoudl start using tv replay especilaly for LBW. ITS GETTING REAL BAD. LARA'S DISMMISAL TODYA AMKE IT LIEK DE 10 BAD CALL THE wi SUFFERED IN THIS SERIES. STEUPS I FE DUP!!