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Do we know for sure that Wenger is pulling all the strings? How do we know that it's not certain restrictions (budgetary and otherwise) that put him in a position where he has to go beyond the beaten path for talent...Why are we chalking it up to ego only when it's pretty obvious that injuries to key players (e.g. Rosicky, Adebayor, Eduardo, Van Persie, ) add to his predicament. Last season Arsenal lost the league by 4 points and it only slipped away from them in the 2nd or 3rd to last game of the season...and it was clear that injuries to Rosicky, Eduardo & Van Persie (arguably their 3 bigges players) were a huge factor in the inconsistency down the stretch. Take C. Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez/Berbatov out of Man U's line up and I'm sure they will struggle to adjust...Take Chelsea's 3 biggest players out of the picture and it's probably the same... In yesterday's game the biggest stone pullers were Gallas and Silvestre (and they not young)..
I agree some experience and depth in Arsenal's line up would be a huge plus, but chalking it up to Wenger's ego is presumptive, overly simplistic and possibly unfair....
leave chelsea outta dat..
last year they lost drogba, lampard, essien, terry and cole at crucial times and for long stretches in the campaign yet they still run man utd down to the wire... even essien and ferreira was playing central defence at a point.. arguably the only reason that man utd win the title is that they were the luckiest with injuries.
....and ah bet yuh if the Chelsea pundits had to give an account of their season, they would attribute bumps in the road somewhat in part to having to juggle players around due to injury.. (and of course managerial turmoil despite Grant's record being just as good if not better than Mourinho's)
Just saying that missing your most influencial players will have an adverse effect on any team....
Whether or not Chelsea has more depth than Arsenal to lessen the magnitude of their bumps is a different conversation- to which I've already suggested that Arsenal could use more experience & depth.
kicker dont feel i am making an attack on you ...but seriously any person who is a REALISTIC chelsea pundit (which i like to belive myself to be) would choose not to take the stance of the blame game on managerial change from Early in the season
you have a case of missing ur most influencial players (mourinho though his effect was talked about till after the end of the season was really not a realistic point when it came to playing for the title)...the boys will have to look at the result at wigan where we let heskey score in extra time to snatch 2 points from us and take destiny out of our hands and at the last game against bolton..Or the Cl final where the grass was maybe just a Lil TOO greener or wet for the other side ..basically when it comes down to the business end of playing football a professional on the field only tries to do his best and forgets the off field and behind the scene matters (as humans how well thy do tht is up to them)
as for pertaining to the subject Wenger shouldnt go but he should realise that maybe a lil experience is needed...a Hard steel man like viera in the middle to settle the nerves when a team like villa is bombarding u with attacks....a deffender who makes it clear to even captain gallas and toure that they have to play A game or they will be replaced (like agger and skrtel did at pool with caragher and hyppia)...ive heard talks of derossi coming but i doubt it ..he is prolly another one team roman wonder..(e.g totti)...My advice to arsenal fans is to stop looking to Benzema to come....of course he seems like a obvious candidate he is Young..skilfull and he speaks french (seems like ramsey and walcott the only two youngsters or players period who dont speak a second language) with Adebayor...Van persie...Bendtner that is too many tall skillful forwards and they will stiful each other....maybe wenger could bring in a man like gattuso or somebody who box to box and makes no secret that his business is to boss the midfield ....not a finese player but who could obviously teach men like diaby and song who are capable of filling the role how to have the finese and hard nose style of play (if mikel was in this team or diarra still there then i think they would have had more solidity in the middle even with both palyers having faults in their game)
As for the main question....Wenger has won a title....been to the CL final...and saw countless cups...not to mention a standard of football In the World where only barcelona and roma were able to replicate (chelsea and man u now to some extent too)...ATRRACTIVE foOTBALL....
last year the problem was finishing and depth...he did enuff to build the invincibles he CAN do it again...
but if Wenger deserves a thread like this then i expect to see one for Rafa Benitez who is yet to win a English Premier League medal...
(imagine all this advice for the bloody periods of london) from a chelsea fan...alyuh gyul teamz and periods (3/4 big 4 wear red) does real need we help oui lol (relax fellas is jus kikz)
His ego (also known as Arsenal's firm "youth" policy) is what is keeping us down.
He has to prove to the world that he can win with these handpicked youngsters when a more balanced team would do wonders.
Even Fabregas said that recently. At 24 he is a veteran on the team. Steups
A young team will always be inconsistent. Lose to Stoke the week before. Beat Man Utd last week. Lose to Aston Villa this week.
Time for Wenger to go.
I was having a discussion with one of my pardna at work and he say over de years he realise that;
Town man have more skills but country man tougher ?
And a good balance of this is needed for success.
cover the whole stadium
play against south american opposition
Dexter Skleene have to be in dey.
Ah cyah believe some of de QRC men calling out some of their old players who could not even carry Dexter Sandy's or Gips Tote Bag but want to put dem on best season ever list.
Doh study Arsene9, he just lookign for an excuse. He forget when Laruen, viera, assley cole, and torue use to be playing dutty dutty.
yeah whatever yes
men forget how much stick arsenal got for x amount of sendings off under arsene management, now they saying we sorf, trust me, is we were top of the league not a poops negative would even if we sorft and still win
well is allyuh borse who sell out all the wild beast and dem. Torue hah no back up now..so he humble, cause he know he go get real licks if he rile up.....yuh have gallas, but he might run away in the corner and suck he finger when cuff start to pass.
remember all dat talk when yuh celebrating liek yuh beat d worls best team on saturday, btu i guess you d kinda man das bull blind gyal
Liverpool does get some calls so mindboggling that you have to laugh sometimes, otherwise you will go insane trying to figure it out.
RE: Liverpool v. Chelsea, and the phantom goal.
-When sometimes a man had two different side of tugs....
-When is an assortment of screw pegs in yuh boots, some aluminum, some rubber, some plastic & some missing....and iz a cool scene.
-When Tansley's was de place fuh brands...
-When yuh swear by dubbin' fuh boots doh mind iz de same dry rot scene right through...
-Bajnaths
-Coca cola red & white football was de flick...
-Mikasa original black & white panel ball was de flick (even when some of the panels missin')
-Flipper was a poor man's Rossi
-Yuh put yuh boots behind de fridge tuh dry
-Any long sleeve t-shirt was fit for goalkeeping
-Yuh eh wash yuh boots since last game last season, and when yuh pull it out- yuh slap de undersides against each other tuh shake out de dirt...and yuh good wid that....
-Yuh have no shin pads, so yuh drop two copy book in yuh socks......normal...
-Yuh shorts too short, so yuh pipe yuh pants....normal...
-Yuh couldn't walk pass a youth wid a ball without bawlin' "small man lemme geh a touch"
-Sunday without sweat wasn't sunday.....
this is not a vigilante approach, but I had to do it once, see a man get stabbed multiple times outside a train station in London... he make a break for it and I know I was faster than he, so I chase and people start to shout at me like I was mad, to leave him...
ah ketch him and kick way he feet from under him, catspraddled, no blade, just a punk... serious boots too...
would I do it again, yes!
So yuh saying you beat up the poor fella who get stabbed?
You do good wuk dey. But breds take it from me, make sure you limit your involvement in them kinda business. Not in making a good response but in how you respond. Vigilantism is tricky...If you get into the mindspace of moral avenger that could lead to serious trouble because your judgment and perception is never 100% reliable.
Crime pays, and not neccessarily for the criminals. I don't know where you live but here in Canada the justice industryis predicated in part on providing income and employment for police, lawyers, judges, court workers, social service agencies etc.
The industry likes its occasional heroes, but frowns on movements and groups at the street level.
Don't be a victim of some cop or prosecutor just itching to turn your individual bravery into an act of negligent frontier justice.
Peace
