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Other Sports / Re: Olympic Medals Per Person (Ranking by Country)
« on: August 26, 2008, 12:43:07 PM »
Can we really call India an underachiever if their effort/investment is modest to begin with?

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Other Sports / Re: Cuban taekwondo athlete banned after kicking ref
« on: August 26, 2008, 12:40:39 PM »
I am not surprised by Fidel's comments.

15873
General Discussion / Re: British Visas may soon be required
« on: August 26, 2008, 11:23:15 AM »
Ah back on ths again:

These are the same ppl that want to impose restrictions on us? Big, big cheups!

Some Britons Too Unruly for Resorts in Europe
By SARAH LYALL
MALIA, Greece — Even in a sea of tourists, it is easy to spot the Britons here on the northeast coast of Crete, and not just from the telltale pallor of their sun-deprived northern skin.

They are the ones, the locals say, who are carousing, brawling and getting violently sick. They are the ones crowding into health clinics seeking morning-after pills and help for sexually transmitted diseases. They are the ones who seem to have one vacation plan: drinking themselves into oblivion
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“They scream, they sing, they fall down, they take their clothes off, they cross-dress, they vomit,” Malia’s mayor, Konstantinos Lagoudakis, said in an interview. “It is only the British people — not the Germans or the French.”

Malia is the latest and currently most notorious in a long list of European resorts full of young British tourists on packaged tours offering cheap alcohol and a license to behave badly. In Magaluf and Ibiza, Spain; in Ayia Napa, Cyprus; and in the Greek resorts of Faliraki, Kavos and Laganas as well as Malia, the story is the same: They come, they drink, they wreak havoc.

“The government of Britain has to do something,” Mr. Lagoudakis said. “These people are giving a bad name to their country.”

They are also hurting themselves in the process. A recent report published by the British Foreign Office, “British Behavior Abroad,” noted that in a 12-month period in 2006 and 2007, 602 Britons were hospitalized and 28 raped in Greece, and that 1,591 died in Spain and 2,032 were arrested there.

The report did not distinguish between medical cases and arrests associated with drunkenness and those that had nothing to do with it. But it did say that “many arrests are due to behavior caused by excessive drinking.”

So it would seem. Reports of scandalous incidents rumble on regularly here and elsewhere, helping to cement Britain’s reputation as the largest exporter of inebriated hooligans in Europe.

Earlier this summer, flying home to Manchester from the Greek island of Kos, a pair of drunken women yelling “I need some fresh air” attacked the flight attendants with a vodka bottle and tried to wrestle the airplane’s emergency door open at 30,000 feet. The plane diverted hastily to Frankfurt, and the women were arrested.

In Laganas, on the Greek island of Zakinthos, where a teenager from Sheffield died after a drinking binge this summer, more than a dozen British women were charged in July with prostitution after taking part, the authorities said, in an alfresco oral sex contest.

More alarmingly, a 20-year-old British tourist partied with her sister and a friend into the early hours in Malia also in July, then returned to her hotel room and — although she had denied being pregnant — gave birth. Her companions say they returned later to find the baby dead; she has been charged with infanticide.

And in Dubai, also this summer, a British man and woman who met during a drinking bout were arrested and charged with having sex on a beach, after repeatedly shouting abuse at a police officer who ordered them to stop.

All of which leads to a natural question: Why?

“I think that in their country, they are like prisoners and they want to feel free,” said Niki Pirovolaki, who works in a bakery on Malia’s main street and often encounters addled Britons heading back to their hotels — “if they can remember where they are staying,” she said.

David Familton, a Briton who works in a club here, said that it was a question of emotional comfort. “It’s because of British culture — no one can relax, so they become inebriated to be the people they want to be,” he said.

Worried about the increase in crimes and accidents afflicting drunken tourists, the British consulate in Athens has begun several campaigns, using posters, beach balls and coasters with snappy slogans, to encourage young visitors to drink responsibly.

“When things do go wrong, they go wrong in quite a big way,” said Alison Beckett, the director of consular services. “What we’re trying to do here is reduce some of these avoidable accidents where they have so much to drink that they fall off balconies and are either killed or need huge operations.”

As much as they depend on the tourists’ money, the resorts are balking at their behavior. Last year, shopkeepers, residents and hotel owners in Malia held an angry anti-British demonstration. Now, 20 officers patrol the notorious 1,000-foot-long strip of bars and clubs catering to tourists in the center of town, keeping the peace, breaking up fights and making arrests.

Local officials say the blame lies not just with the tourists themselves, but also with the operators of package tours promising drinking-and-partying vacations, and clubs offering industrial-strength alcohol at rock-bottom prices. For about $50 in Malia, tourists can go on unlimited-drinking pub crawls.

“British tour operators present them with these packages that promise a wild holiday in Malia,” said Brig. Fotis Georgopoulos, the police chief of Iraklion, which takes in Malia. “This predisposes them. They are automatically put into a wild and lawless mind-set that is beyond them.”

On the strip late one recent night, downtown Malia felt like a nonrainy version of downtown Birmingham, as young Britons in skimpy clothes moved in herds from bar to bar, drinking, boasting and shouting as they went.

The tourists confessed to drinking a lot. One 21-year-old man from Essex, for instance, said that his consumption the night before had been five beers; six specialty drinks combined with Baileys, tequila, absinthe, ouzo, vodka, gin and orange juice; five vodka and lime drinks; and then five cans of Stella Artois, all of which, he said, emboldened him to pick up a woman to spend the night with. But they said that the lurid stories are media exaggerations.

“I’ve never seen anyone get stabbed the whole time I’ve been here,” said Chris Robinson, 21, speaking outside the Loft bar, which had a special deal: four drinks and two shots for $8.

Similarly, Eleanor Seaver, 20, said that she had been in Malia for two months, working in a club, and that she had never once been in a fight. On the contrary, she said, people are comradely and helpful. “If there’s a girl being sick in the streets, you see people helping her out,” she said. “We watch out for each other here.”

Paul Fisher, a 49-year-old Welshman who runs a bar and a motorbike-rental shop, said the stories both depressed the tourist trade and, perversely, drew the sort of visitors for whom drunken anarchy is an attractive prospect.

“We don’t like you lot coming in and ruining the place,” Mr. Fisher said, referring to reporters. He opened a drawer and produced a copy of the celebrity magazine Closer. An article inside featured a young female British tourist’s “booze-fueled orgy with four men” in Malia.

Things like that give Malia a bad name, Mr. Fisher said. “This is wrong and it’s overexaggerated,” he said.

On the other hand, he conceded, “for 10 weeks, this place is littered with kids being sick and unconscious in the streets.”

Just then, several young men who had the pale, queasy look that suggested the end of hangovers not yet muted by new infusions of alcohol, passed by, and Mr. Fisher asked them why they drank so much, night after night.

“It’s what everyone wants to do,” one young man said.

His friend said: “We have stressful jobs, and we don’t get much time off, and we like to enjoy ourselves and have a good laugh. And we love a bargain.”

Anthee Carassava contributed reporting from Athens.


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Anyway, is good talk and no different from the runnings in any athletic setting.

Back in de day I lived for a portion in a building that (coincidentally) had housed Trini athletes during a previous Olympiad. The constant was the janitorial staff. When they heard where I was from one of the dahlins start to reel off the names of a couple of our quarter milers and was flat out clear about de runnings aside from de running that went down. It wasn't an Olympics in which we achieved distinction on the field buh we certainly left ah mark in de city.

sooo...yuh sayin yuh get sloppy seconds because dem fellahs rep deyself? ;D

Nah man, ah din throw caution to de wind. [Anyhow,] dahlin wasn't a gemstone.

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General Discussion / Re: 9 Year Old Pitcher Banned from League
« on: August 26, 2008, 10:11:50 AM »
Doh worry elan, some professional outfit will come to the rescue soon.

15876
General Discussion / Re: Some people really mad oui...........
« on: August 26, 2008, 10:08:05 AM »
Ah kinda Weekend at Bernie's play ...

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Other Sports / Re: soca in de olympics too
« on: August 25, 2008, 10:02:26 AM »
Since we have a strong representation for Track and Field, I honestly think come 2012 Olympics we should send up representatives for the Rifle and Hola Hoop competitions.

We ain't hafta to look far for eider....Hola Hoop ya could fine dem in any primary school yard after ah full lunch. Rifle, several places, including Cedros, Laventille, Red Hill, San Juan and Curepe Junction.

GOLD come 2012 :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:


I was watching the 50m pistol and archery and more or less something similar occurred to me. 50m pistol medallists were the two Koreas and China. Men's team archery featured Korea versus Italy fuh de gold and the women's featured Korea versus China. Koreans won both.

Put the Mongolian to work!

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General Discussion / Re: Cost Of Living In T&T
« on: August 25, 2008, 05:59:32 AM »
I eh tink is a good idea converting de money unless yuh on vacation

When yuh liviin home is local dollars yuh gettin paid wit

Last time I was home was '05 and ah run in to ah pardnah who did move back from Boston (about 3 months previous)....besides de fact dat he was ketchin he ass to find ah job somewhat equal in scale to de one he leave

He tell mih to live comfortable in Trini yuh hadda be makin about $8,000-10,000 TT a month....granted "comfortable" is subjective dependin on who yuh talk to...but I eh know if dat number gorne up or down in the last 3 years

I agree with de eminent dutty.

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Jokes / Re: Ask a question ah day
« on: August 25, 2008, 05:51:12 AM »
Water, sugar, corn syrup, starch, peach, apricot, salt, vinegar, guar gum, caramel colour, f,d & c yellow #6, f,d & c red #40, sulfite, 1/10th of 1% sodium benzoate added as preservative.

Why is there no duck in duck sauce? ???

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What about Track & Field / Re: pure hate and act normal
« on: August 24, 2008, 03:54:19 PM »
list of famos banton's

Mega Banton
Buju Banton
Pato Banton
Kafu Banton
Burro Banton
All Jamaican regage singers..

There was even an aspiring dancehall singer who I grew up with in Couva name Skiller Banton..that man had lyrics for days..even went up for party time some years back... Has all those gigs in school bazars..

he now works for the Borough Council

Well, since Tigger introduce some ah de players lehwe take a leaf outta de playbook of one nah man.

Exhibit A, select Pato Banton lyrics:

My name is Pato Banton
me born and grow ah Inglan
My name is Pato Banton
and dis is my opinion


I do not hold no prejudice for any other nation
as far as I'm concerned we're all a part of God's creation.
Like dog a dog and cat a cat a human is a human
so there should be no prejudice because of one's complexion.
There should be no prejudice because of one's religion
for every man has got the right to make his own decision.
I don't just talk to every man but also every woman
understanding gives you knowledge but the fear of God is wisdom.
Wisdom is the compass that will show you the direction
towards the light of Jah! and away from all illusion.


+++

Give thx. Done de folly nah.

Guidance.

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General Discussion / Re: Take dat Hillary Clinton ...
« on: August 23, 2008, 01:53:29 AM »
Allyuh 'low meh one last parting shot nah ... ah know ah flouting protocol by raising de dead... buh is ah good cause ... and a case of kicking dem while dey down ...

take dat Hillary Clinton!!! And take dis  :busshead:

Aight, somebody could launch ah Biden thread now.

P.S. Joe send Putin ah ty memo. Doh fuhget.

My work here is done.

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Controversial comments.

All we need now is for someone to chime in that the '76 boycott facilitated Hasely's gold and iz a wrap.

Lehwe honour all de medallists equally nah ... as well, leh Thomo bask in his glory absent the comparisons nah. I prefer to focus on the fact that we have medalled in several successive Olympics. Give thx.

I dont think there was a boycott in 1976. The US boycotted Moscow in '80 and the USSR boycotted LA in '84. 'Cold war' nonsense! Tallman whey yuh at!PS This thread is not about dissing Ato's achieving achivements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Summer_Olympics#Boycotting_countries

It wasn't a major boycott. Plus I don't think a runner from any of those countries would have beaten Crawford

We eh need Tallman fuh something that available. Yuh hadda draw Tallman for matters of utmost merit. Whappen to yuh atall?  :)

I disagree with the "it wasn't a major boycott characterization". Very significant issue. More than 300 competitors pulled out including several very prominent athletes. In fact, politically we were on the wrong side of the issue. Yet, it was an Olympics in which Caribbean ppl understandably felt pride given Hasely's triumph and Don Quarrie's as well.

A few years down the road we were banning Yagga Rowe for his actions. ???  Reconcilable or irreconciliable?

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Rogge he's coming to your neck of the woods. Might be a fitting time to make amends.

Rogge is Belgian.

Zurich is Switzerland...not very close.

Bolt is Jamaican..  Kingston is ... never mind!

Brodda, where is the IOC headquartered? That should resolve the confusion. Nationality is not a factor in my comments.

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General Discussion / Re: Cost Of Living In T&T
« on: August 23, 2008, 01:03:33 AM »

  It is not like it change.
  The average man making money in Trini so it ent really dat bad .
  Yuh cyar expect prices to be at 1990 when oil is king.go home s
  Nobody I know starving or cayr afford ah 42" an ah B 14
I home very 6 weeks and nobody cooking again is everybody buying , so doh study dem in here dat ent go home fuh the last century.
House expensive but it was always dat way for poor people.

Granted. Buh your comments eh exactly 'comfortable' or 'comforting'.

It depends on what yuh want our how yuh make do. Every Friday evening all over the country man and woman lliming and carrying on.
Movietowne only expanding and expanding to deal with the numbers every where you look is a new bar or casino, so ah guess if yuh not ah peas farmer in the middle of ah ganga field in Biche it ok.

No doubt. No doubt. Buh plenty invisibles gehhin mash in the rush.

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Anyway, is good talk and no different from the runnings in any athletic setting.

Back in de day I lived for a portion in a building that (coincidentally) had housed Trini athletes during a previous Olympiad. The constant was the janitorial staff. When they heard where I was from one of the dahlins start to reel off the names of a couple of our quarter milers and was flat out clear about de runnings aside from de running that went down. It wasn't an Olympics in which we achieved distinction on the field buh we certainly left ah mark in de city.

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How else is this going to manifest itself than with a volcanic release of pent-up hedonism? It is a common sight to see recently knocked-out athletes gorging on Magnums and McDonald's, swilling alcohol and, of course, shagging like crazy.

Now would that be the chocolate/ ice cream or the nonoxynol-9 variety?  :devil:

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General Discussion / Re: Cost Of Living In T&T
« on: August 23, 2008, 12:30:38 AM »

  It is not like it change.
  The average man making money in Trini so it ent really dat bad .
  Yuh cyar expect prices to be at 1990 when oil is king.go home s
  Nobody I know starving or cayr afford ah 42" an ah B 14
I home very 6 weeks and nobody cooking again is everybody buying , so doh study dem in here dat ent go home fuh the last century.
House expensive but it was always dat way for poor people.

Granted. Buh your comments eh exactly 'comfortable' or 'comforting'.

15888
Football / Re: OLYMPIC SOCCER FINALS
« on: August 23, 2008, 12:19:03 AM »
Yuh cyah play Argentina with naivete or a lack of concentration. Doh geh me wrong, Nigeria held up their end of the bargain ... however, a couple things didn't sit well with me ... for one, I observed a lack of urgency by the NIG midfielders releasing the ball on counter opportunities ... ah mean, on more than one occasion the casual nature of the movement was ah headache to watch ... two, this one is a lil bit more difficult to describe ... there are certain passes that you'll never witness on the European stage b/c they are known to expose you at the back ... yet Nigeria won't be the first "Third World" team to insist on them in the name of flair (kinda) ... these passes are unnecessary and useless and more than a couple times it was these passes that Kun and Messi exploited rather than some brilliant conception of their own leading to damage.

Bakes, I wouldn't have indulged Odemwingie for the full second half. Buh again, dahis a call that can be defended either way.

Big players on the day: Mascherano, Messi and di Maria.


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Football / Re: OLYMPIC SOCCER FINALS
« on: August 22, 2008, 11:12:32 PM »
Messi: relying fully on the ARG headcase playbook ... when pressed, encourage the opponent to do something silly.  He's been trying to manufacture an off the ball situation since the water break.

Otherwise, right now the $ is on ARG to have success in gehhin in behind the NIG defence.  While I like Nigeria's anticipation of the ball, it almost got them into trouble towards the end of the first half when a defending player took an unnecessary step fwd towards a ball that was never going to be his.

Bakes, ah really doh have any complaints with Odemwingie. He's trying to feel his way around. That said, he could be a candidate for Siasia to replace - purely on tactics.

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If I was he agent I hold out for 200K. Dead serious.

Where my arithmeticians? How many grand dat is per sec? Ah want dat fuh ah hourly wuk!

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Rogge he's coming to your neck of the woods. Might be a fitting time to make amends.

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Imo, a relay medal holds significantly less weight as compared to an individual. The relays are almost second fiddle to the main track package, and also an individual contribution is still only 1/4 of a single medal.

So its a bit unfair to give Thompson that kinda individual credit for the 4x100 to factor into a discussion about most successful Olympian. It have ah whole 3 other men on the side that click today to make that silver possible.

And ah find it too early to be giving Thompson them kinda props.

Ato was dominating the european circuit for a long time before his Olympic medals, whereas we could agree that Thompson peaked at exactly the right time culminating with his Olympic performances.

Thompson still has alot to prove and a long way to go before we can mention him in the same breath as Ato.

Excellent Olympics for him nonetheless.

Controversial comments.

All we need now is for someone to chime in that the '76 boycott facilitated Hasely's gold and iz a wrap.

Lehwe honour all de medallists equally nah ... as well, leh Thomo bask in his glory absent the comparisons nah. I prefer to focus on the fact that we have medalled in several successive Olympics. Give thx.

15893
Football / Re: Rangers sign US international Edu
« on: August 22, 2008, 01:50:37 PM »
lol

15894
General Discussion / Re: Tragic murder in Antigua
« on: August 22, 2008, 01:45:20 PM »
Fifth person charged in Antigua murder of couple
2 days ago

ST JOHN'S, Antigua (AFP) — A fifth person was charged in connection with the shooting deaths of two honeymooners in Antigua, police said on Tuesday.

Georgette Aaron, 31, was charged with accessory to murder, accessory to robbery and perverting the course of justice, court documents showed.

Aaron is the fifth suspect arrested and charged in the ongoing investigation into the murders of Ben and Catherine Mullany, who were shot and killed while honeymooning here last month.

On Monday, Avie Howell, 17, and Kaniel Martin, 20, were charged with the murders as well as for robbery.

Two other women, aged 22 and 32, appeared before a magistrate last week on charges for receiving stolen goods belonging to the Welsh couple.

The Mullanys, both 31 years old, were killed July 27 when thieves broke into their hill-top honeymoon resort while they were sleeping and shot them both.

Catherine died instantly from a single gunshot to the head. Ben was shot in the neck and died a week later after he was airlifted home to Wales for treatment.

Scotland Yard detectives, including three forensic experts, and an officer from South Wales police have been assisting local authorities in investigating the homicides on this Caribbean island of 70,000 people.

The couple, from Pontardawe, in southern Wales, were nearing the end of a two-week honeymoon on the island when they were attacked.

Hundreds of Antiguans took part in a march last week to denounce the murders and other unresolved crimes that have taken place here.

++

Two other women originally from the Dominican Republic, Francisca Baez de la Cruz and Ramona Mejia Gervasio, were last week charged with robbery, receiving stolen goods and perverting the course of justice.

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Football / Re: Olympic Football
« on: August 22, 2008, 12:15:07 PM »
Kick off is noon Beijing time ... link saved ... ah want to see conventional wisdom turned on its head ... dahs all ah saying ;)

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Other Sports / Re: Olympic side stories
« on: August 22, 2008, 10:00:23 AM »
Then there are these 4 well-paid jokers:

Brasilians Geor and Gia fly New Flag

BEIJING (Reuters) - From Pele to Ronaldo, Brazilians often take nicknames for their sporting careers so when Renato Gomes and Jorge Terceiro started their latest ventures in beach volleyball they went for "Geor" and "Gia."

Odd decision? Not if you have just taken double citizenship in Georgia.

The former Soviet state is competing for the first time in the immensely popular Olympic beach volleyball with a lot of help from a country that has perfected the sport.

Geor and Gia are flying their adopted flag in the men's tournament while Cristine "Saka" Santanna and Andrezza "Rtvelo" Martins qualified for the women's event just before the deadline last month.

Sakartvelo means Georgia in Georgian.

"I have to say I don't speak much Georgian but everyone there speaks English," Saka said after a training session in Beijing.

"I've been there a few times and it seems everyone is supporting us … and back in Brazil, when we play, they shout for Georgia all the way," said Saka, who is married to Brazilian beach volleyball player Harley Marques.

Sport is dotted with athletes born in one country competing for another. Georgian-born weightlifters and judo fighters picked up medals for Greece in the last few Olympics.

IMPORT TEAM

Levan Akhvlediani, president of the Georgian volleyball federation, had the notion of importing a beach team in 2001.

"Every business needs success so I looked for the shortest way to success," he told Reuters. [Questions, Alvin?]

He approached a coach in Brazil and together they picked players who were unlikely to make the big time there and who could afford to sit out of international competition for two years to meet citizenship requirements.

The teams went back on international tour in 2006, just in time to start picking up Olympic qualification points.

"I was going to retire," said Geor, now 27. "I never dreamed of being at the Olympics and here I am now."

Both teams start the pool rounds of their first Olympics on August 9.

Akhvlediani hopes that live coverage of his two teams in Beijing will encourage young athletes to start playing beach volleyball on Georgia's Black Sea coast and attract sponsors.

Saka, 29, shares the dream, but with a twist.

"Georgia can be very cold. I want to get more young Georgian girls down to Brazil to learn how to play. That would be great.

***

Geor and Gia finished 4th in the medal race, losing comprehensively to the 2004 gold medallists 21-15; 21-10

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General Discussion / Re: Memorable SW.net Quotations
« on: August 22, 2008, 09:24:04 AM »
Quote from: Brownsugar link=topic=20761.msg462652#msg462652

Ah still have meh all time favorite oui. dat one from Rat does still make meh lose pee :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Which one is dat Cana??
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Dat was de greatest one liner ever uttered on this board

Ah lady make de mistake and post ah picture of she self in ah sexy pose on de board

Rat type ah reply so harsh,about 1 seconds after de pic it spin everybody... I laugh for weeks with that one...but ah feel so bad for de woman ah eh even post no reply when he drop de hammer
Poor gyirl,She never return

Not quite. There is evidence to the contrary. ;)

15898
Football / Re: Concacaf Round Up
« on: August 21, 2008, 12:29:17 PM »
Poor Honduras

15899
General Discussion / Re: "Breaking" Bigfoot body found!!!
« on: August 21, 2008, 12:28:09 PM »
lol @ RIP Bigfoot ... nice touch

15900
Football / Re: Soca Warriors shoots down Cuba.
« on: August 21, 2008, 02:27:55 AM »
TI,
 I want to eat my words.

Classic :)

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