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Football / Re: Andre Raymond Thread

« on: July 16, 2024, 04:14:15 PM »

Excellent. I and a few of us on here knew this man is too talented to be in 4th division Portugal. Nice pay day too. All we need is Denzil to be in a good league. Also two solid CBs playing in competitive leagues. Aubrey running out of gas.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: July 15, 2024, 10:42:35 AM »

AB, yuh call it from years now. I think a few of us on here had some hope. But hope don't win medals.

From 2009 to about 2014ish, TT was mentioned as being the team possibly fighting UK, or another nations, for a bronze/third in the relays (men's 4x100 and 4x400 and women's 4x100). As, the expectation was that gold or silver will be going to USA or JA. Now we are fighting to make a finals.. fighting to qualify and can't.

@ Deeks, every 3 or so years we have some standouts that come out of the woodworks. They tend to show a lot of promise. But only about 5% make it to the global stage. Here are some names that we all thought that were going to make an impact on the senior stage. Superb athletes, but they are not on a world class level, or not even running anymore:

John Mark Constantine
Adell Colthurst
Avindale Smith
Jenae Spinx
Shaniqua Bascombe

I thought that these two athletes (J Gordon, M Cedenio) were going to be medal contenders for years. But they both had short careers. Both were World Junior Champs. Khalifa St Fort's time was supposed to be now. . Just to put things into proper context Deeks. Let's hope that that list of athletes you have, gets whats needed to make them true medal contenders in 2028.

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Football / Re: Copa America Thread

« on: July 12, 2024, 01:14:36 PM »

Odds are in Uruguay's favor for sure. But this Canadian team ain't going to be intimidated. Canada brining in the Africans and Caribbean brothers for this one. @asylumseeker "They not like us". I know you'll catch that one.

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Football / Re: Copa America Thread

« on: July 11, 2024, 01:19:28 PM »

@asylumseeker Canada can be just as physical as Uruguay. My money on Canada. Uruguay going in there over confident. If Canada loses, if won't be a pummel.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: July 09, 2024, 07:58:01 AM »

Yeah Trini1. We got to accept it for now.

I think AB would agree that something as simple as diversifying our event pool would be a good start. For example, we have over 25 athletes competing in the men's 100m. But for long jump, triple jump and hurdles we have less than 6 competitors in each event. This is where good coaching and talent identification needs to come in. Those athletes who ain't running at least near 10.5 in the 100m, train them to jump, hurdle or whatever it is. Those same sub par athletes come out every year and perform well below the standard to qualify for a competition.

Track in Trinidad seems to mean only 100m and 200m. Tobago is thinking further ahead. Josanne 400mh medalist, Renny Quow 400m medalist and KAB 100m medalist. And Jenae Degannes looks like she will be following suit.

Another thing to look at is the transition from Junior to senior. It seems as if we fail miserably here. Our juniors who won u18 or u20s in a global competition never achieved consistent success on the senior level. Cedenio? J Gordon? Bellile? St Fort. . The list goes on.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: July 07, 2024, 07:29:51 AM »

Yes Trini. Us posters on here can see the gaps the TF program. You would think that someone in TT Track and field would see it by now.

Tobago is further ahead in development than Trinidad. And they have less to work with.

I just seen the athletic team named for Paris. Wow. That team looking THIN. I counted 12 athletes. London 2012 we had over 25 athletes for Track. Our success in London is to blame for this downward spiral. You see, after winning 4 medals in London, them jokers in the TTNAAA thought that the success of London was due to their "development" ideas and programs. But the reality is that our success was due to having many athletes in NCAA. So what did those clowns in thr TTNAAA do? NOTHING. They figured that they should continue as is. Fast forward to 2016 when all them athletes were in the twilight of their careers, no plans were put into place to recreate the success of 2012. Instead initiatives like "10 gold by 2024", which was just lip service, were introduced. Where is 10 gold by 2024 now? We can't even send 10 athletes for individual events.

Another thing, I find that many of the women athletes retired quite early compared to the Jamaican women. Darrel Brown made the 100m men's national final at 39 years old. Regardless of how his career ended, that spirit to keep coming back after an injury plagued career, is the type of spirit our athletes and administration needs.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: July 04, 2024, 07:44:11 PM »

@trini 1

3 or 4 years ago those women were all running decent times. Now they are no where in sight.

Jenae Spinx looked like a very promising athlete. She graduated from University and that was it.

Khalifa St Fort is another one. Her career evaporated after leaving Ato.

Again, the plan should be to direct all the average 100m and 200m runners into other events. Put the focus on the ones that do well. Direct the underachievers in the 100m and 200m into other events

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: July 02, 2024, 06:35:08 PM »

Janae Degannes
Chinapoo brothers
Dylan Woodruff
Natasha Fox
Dorian Charles
Lisa Ariana Raye - someone to keep an eye on

Again we have all the stars mainly in the 100m and 200m. This is where we need the right coaching to direct the other 100m and 200m athletes into other events. If someone like Janae Degannes tries the 400mh, she might do very well because of her 400m and long jump performances.

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Football / Re: Fire Angus Eve Thread

« on: July 02, 2024, 05:56:17 PM »

I'll take that asylumseeker. Remember he's the man who took the smallest nation to the world cup and they performed better than us.

The sad thing out of all this, is that we discussing this on the Fire Angus thread. I supported Eve during the Nations League. Because he got the results. But the Canada game demonstrated that he can only take the team so far. A team/players can evolve past the coach. And I think that's the case of Eve. Btw, this is not a call to bring Hallmy to the Soca Warriors. He won't take it. But most of us on here will take Hallmy over Eve in an instant.

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Football / Re: Fire Angus Eve Thread

« on: July 02, 2024, 03:20:08 PM »

Based on where they are, what they have, and who they can give, he's probably the most ideal. Mark my words, you'll see how much of an asset he was when the new coach comes in. Word is that Tappa coming back. Well at least that's what the yardies think

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Football / Re: Fire Angus Eve Thread

« on: July 02, 2024, 11:05:03 AM »

@asylumseeker, let me guess he has to be a sir Alex or Pepe for you. .

Check the Reggae boyz forum you'll see how he was held in high praises whenever he won a crucial game. When he lost, the guillotine was out. These reactions are normal. But the numbers would show that he brought JA senior men's team to a higher ranking. Is he a great coach? As I said he ain't no Pepe. But using these guys as standards for coaching a Caribbean national team like comparing apples to oranges.

Eve's record is only better than Hellmy because we had more games against teams in our backyard.. JA played more competitive teams than us..

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Football / Re: Copa America Thread

« on: July 02, 2024, 10:52:07 AM »

I never thought the day would come where I would see the US on the receiving side of the bad calls while playing "on home soil". There was even a potential red card that the refs could have called against Uruguay, but they gave a yellow to the US player.

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Football / Re: Fire Angus Eve Thread

« on: July 01, 2024, 06:14:37 PM »

The man knows his stuff. Has a good record since given the role. Check his stats. Better than Eve no doubt. The JFF did not let him go. They have faith in him, that's why they kept him on. He resigned, which means that he either sick of the program in the JFF, or he got another opportunity somewhere else.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: June 30, 2024, 08:42:43 PM »

Wow. I can't believe how badly TT track and field has fallen. No sub 10s or sub 11s. I think only 5 athletes made the standard to compete in Paris.

What got me was seeing Tyra Gittens as the lone competitor in her event. Meanwhile we have over 30 women competing in the 100m and only 1 made the standard. This is where we need better coaching to identify athletes who might be better in another event instead of the event they "like". Many athletes in Jamaica choose running at a young age. But they have coaches who are smart enough to direct them into other events that leverage the athlete's skills properly. The 100m for the men and women are too saturated with athletes who can barely get close to a regional games standard. Take them athletes and train them for 400mh, 100mh, 110mh, long jump, etc. This is where we got to start.

Also the men's 4x100 team will not be in Paris competing.

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What about Track & Field / Re: Paris 2024

« on: June 30, 2024, 08:30:04 PM »

Miller-Uibo

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Football / Re: Jamaica Football Thread.

« on: June 14, 2024, 03:39:33 PM »

@reggaefan, just be happy that alyuh in the Copa. We watching from the sidelines.

I stand with Bailey. Let him decide. If JA continue to improve without him, he'll be begging for a sweat.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 11, 2024, 01:46:46 PM »

@Fyzo, I just saying it will be harder for him. But not only him, others who vying for a role in the midfield. If things workout for khan and he improves in the MLS, there will be more competition for a spot in the midfield.

Nothing against Muckette. You're right that Eve probably brought him in to test for this game.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 11, 2024, 10:10:17 AM »

Molik-Khan is now a MLS player. He was called up to the 1st squad. No longer in the USL. Good news. Muckette will have a harder time now.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 10, 2024, 06:27:12 PM »

Good to know Deeks. When we played them on our grounds, we do better. They always had the edge on opponents on their turf.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 10, 2024, 09:11:46 AM »

CR is not as mighty as they were. They are beatable. They did not look too impressive yesterday. Theyre not as physical as us. They also lack speed. But their passing is good as always.

We always lose to them on that shitty turf they have in San Jose. I believe they don't use that turf anymore. We can beat them. We won't leave San Jose empty handed.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 10, 2024, 08:54:15 AM »

Muckette has the potential, no doubt. But I don't see him as a huge contributor at the moment. BUT, get him into the CPL, he will grow and develop there. He's plateaued in the TTPFL, if he can get a good agent and get into the CPL, he will be a better player.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 05:23:16 PM »

Yes Fyzo. That St Kitts and Grenada game will be the one to also keep an eye on. Those two teams are on a similar level. Also, both have about 5 or so Englishmen playing on their team.

This game will take place on St Kitts turf field. That might be disastrous for the Grenadians. We had about 6 players who are accustomed to playing on turf. The Grenadians don't have any that play on turf regularly.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 05:16:24 PM »

GRN 0 - 3 CR

I watch the game. Grenada had the majority of possession. But CR took their chances when it came.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 02:48:05 PM »

@Trini_2026 minus the CPL players, would we still be alive for the qualifications? CPL players scoring the goals. Even in Nations League. If the CPL did not exist, most of these guys would probably be playing USL 2, pro league or below that. It's the CPL that giving these players an opportunity to grow and develop. Then come back to the NT to prove their worth.

Right now the NT benefitting from the CPL. It would be hard to ignore that. The CPL is in alignment with the talent we currently have. It's a realistic option with decent competition, that can help to make us competitive in Concacaf

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Football / Re: Levi Garcia Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 10:19:35 AM »

Ok. I didn't realize Bailey was out. I thought he made amends with the JFF.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 10:17:02 AM »

Interesting take Asylum. And I agree to a certain extent. We've been sending players to El salvador and Honduras for years. Jomal may be the exception. But I can't recall a player playing well in them leagues and coming into the national team and duplicating their performance. Right now we have about 5 examples of players doing that for their CPL team and bringing that success into the NT.

Yes, that player you talk about who went to Central America, and did not shine, is probably our best
player right now. Overall, the development that he was expecting to get in that league, was hampered. I say that because he has improved even more since being in the CPL.

The central American leagues are not giving us the same return as the CPL. I think you'd agree to that. If you can show me some examples, I'll agree with you 100%.

Good discussion asylumseeker. Too many times fellas get into these debates and it turns into a mudslinging thing. You're one of the few posters on here whose opinion I respect.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 08:50:11 AM »

Yep. Quality and fluidity hit it on the head. Imagine if we had him, Yeates and Spicer for the Canada game.

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Football / Re: Levi Garcia Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 08:47:23 AM »

@asylum, either him or Leon Bailey. Levi and Leon were considered the top two prospects coming out of Concacaf 7 years ago. Levi fell a little short because of the leagues he went to. Right now Leon is well ahead of Levi. Why? Levi always injured. If he can get a full season without an injury, he will develop more.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 08:42:46 AM »

Btw, Dantaye also looked decent in the midfield. I wasn't sure if he was playing wide. Regardless, he is a true talent.

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Football / Re: 2026 World Cup Thread

« on: June 09, 2024, 08:40:41 AM »

@Asylum . . How you mean disparaging? All I said was forget about them leagues. Show me someone who has played in El Salvador or Honduras and was able to bring success to the team. Right now the CPL is doing that. For all the fellas that went to El Salvador or Honduras to play, I have yet to see the return or the impact on the national team.

Andre Raymond and Denzil are perfect candidates for the CPL. The season now half-way through. Hopefully they get a good agent that can get them there. Why go back to play 4th division when CPL is paying more and allows for easier travel for NT games.