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What about Track & Field / Re: 2016 Outdoor Results for T&T Athletes
« on: July 15, 2016, 12:37:54 PM »
IAAF Diamond League Monaco 7/15/16

Rank  Lane  Nat    Name                         Time       
1       5       RSA    Van NIEKERK Wayde   44.12
2       3       TTO    CEDENIO Machel         44.34 PB  :beermug: :beermug:
3       2       GRN   TAPLIN Bralon             44.38 PB
4       4       USA    McQUAY Tony             44.79
5       6       BOT    MAKWALA Isaac         44.90
6       7       CZE    MASLÁK Pavel            45.13 SB
7       8       BEL     BORLÉE Kevin            45.36
8       1       FRA     ANNE Mame-Ibra       45.82

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When Elaine thompson peaks in Rio she should be around 10.6x. So you are right. Im so shocked that Tianna Bartoletta ran 10.78... her times this season dont indicate that. However she does perform well when need be so we'll wait until Rio to see.

One thing that must be said is that all the ladies who have run 10.7x or below have complete races and if MLA wishes to run these times it will require her to have the same.

I am suspicious that both she and Fraser-Pryce (of the same club) did not show up for the 200m.
While Fraser-Pryce is nursing an injury, Thompson looked very composed and unstressed after the 100m.
Just hoping there weren't any "testing" issues, as I cannot see a reason for Thompson to chance not qualifying in her stronger event.
What's going on?

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Justin Gatlin wins US trials 100m 9.80!

Brommel 2nd in 9.84

Bracey 3rd in 9.98


Another year of Bolt-drama - will he make it to Rio? If he does can he handle Gatlin?
Stay tuned as the world turns...

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Elaine Thompson wins 2016 Jamaica Trials 100m in 10.70 (equals Jamaican NR)

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Yohan Blake wins 2016 Jamaica Trials 100m

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Bolt withdraws from 2016 Jamaica Trials

Usain Bolt has withdrawn from the Jamaica Olympic Trials with a hamstring tear, Bolt announced in a statement posted on Twitter.

Bolt was attempting to qualify for his fourth Olympics at the Jamaican National Championships, and will now seek qualification for this summer’s Games in Rio de Janeiro at the London Anniversary Games on July 22.

“After feeling discomfort in my hamstring after the first round last night and then again in the semi-final tonight I was examined by the Chief Doctor of the National Championships and diagnosed with a Grade 1 tear,” Bolt wrote. “I have submitted a medical exemption to be excused from the 100m final and the remainder of the National Championships. I will seek treatment immediately and hope to show fitness at the London Anniversary Games on July 22 to earn selection for the Olympic Games in Rio.”

Bolt holds the world records at 100 and 200 meters, and has previously won gold medals in the 100- and 200-meter races and the 4x100-meter relay at the 2008 and ’12 Olympics.

Since the 2012 Olympics, Bolt has won world championship gold medals in the 100 and 200 meters and 4x100-meter relay at the ’13 and ’15 world championships.

Bolt competed at the JN Racers Grand Prix in Kingston a few weeks ago and ran a quick 9.88 in the 100 meters despite nearly falling at the start.

Bolt's Semi-Final
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I think you need to include Jamaica in your analysis as they have reinvigorated their 400m corp, and depending on their OT results next weekend will most likely figure in the mix.

Rusheen McDonald - Ran that 43.9 but nothing to back it up since, but you never know
Javon Francis - may improve to sub-44.5
Akeem Bloomfield - 200/400 talent with 2015 44.9, same body/running style as Gardiner (BAH) and Cedenio
Fitzroy Dunkley - converted long/triple jumper who ran 45.06 for LSU this year
Dimes Gaye - new local talent (45.30) this year
Other talent with notable 2015 performances to look out for in their OT - Peter Matthews (44.7), Ricardo Chambers (44.9), Edino Steele (45.2), Nathon Allen (45.3)
Chris Taylor - 45.26 - may not test him this young (save for WJC), but he's a soldier if they need him.

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I guess Deon needs to review his training regime if he is to get back to his old self.
I wonder who is Deon's official coach right now and where is he based for his training?
All I am aware of is that Bralon Taplin from Grenada is Deon's training partner and he was better than Taplin all thru college when they were there together at Texas A&M. Now suddenly this season Taplin seems to have Deon's ticket so it seems Taplin has benefited more from them training together than Deon has.

I believe Deon spent a good measure of his offseason in Trinidad then returned to Texas at the start of 2016, so the difference between him and Taplin is that period of preparation. Taplin's was decidingly better based on his improvement and the quality of his indoor season.

so he was home liming  my gosh ::)

Liming wouldn't have him running 45's indoors.

His progress from indoors to outdoors however was minimal 45-46 to mid 45s, with a marked loss in speed endurance and strength in his last 200m.

It may be that the differences in his stint in T&T were (i) the quality of strength training facilities, drills and workouts (T&T vs A&M), (ii) off season workouts amongst similarly-talented peers (to drive each other when one may not have it on a given day), (iii) day-to-day coaching instructions (T&T vs. A&M).

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I guess Deon needs to review his training regime if he is to get back to his old self.
I wonder who is Deon's official coach right now and where is he based for his training?
All I am aware of is that Bralon Taplin from Grenada is Deon's training partner and he was better than Taplin all thru college when they were there together at Texas A&M. Now suddenly this season Taplin seems to have Deon's ticket so it seems Taplin has benefited more from them training together than Deon has.

I believe Deon spent a good measure of his offseason in Trinidad then returned to Texas at the start of 2016, so the difference between him and Taplin is that period of preparation. Taplin's was decidingly better based on his improvement and the quality of his indoor season.

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Cedenio takes the 400m national title and Gordon comes 2nd in OG standard.
Deon Lendore secures 3rd place but is yet to run the 400m OG standard this season so he will need to run 45.40 or faster before Rio to secure the 3rd individual 400m spot.

Lendore has already run 45.31 on May 14, but it does seem his off season conditioning and strength work missed the mark.

I mentioned that something was up with Quow a month or so ago, he's never been off for Senior Champs, so I can only assume his training may have been interrupted by injury, or his legs are a little tired with age and years of constant racing.

Haven't seen any times to-date that would excite me about the possibility of an individual OG medal.
We should have finalists in the sprints but it looks like medals will come from the relays and maybe a Keshorn surprise.

Let's see what our talent produces on the pre-OG European circuit.

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What about Track & Field / Mike Agostini Passes On
« on: May 12, 2016, 07:12:53 AM »
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/more-sports/former-champion-sprinter-mike-agostini-has-died-at-the-age-of-81/news-story/929d54f89ee4d34b8401483974a37e7c

Former champion sprinter Mike Agostini has died at the age of 81

MICHAEL George “Mike” Agostini celebrated his 19th birthday in January 1954 by thrashing the Olympic sprint champion on an indoor track over 100 yards — smashing a 30-year-old world record running in jogging shoes.

The teenager from Trinidad was celebrated as The World’s Fastest Human in some American sports magazines, but his status would be challenged by Queenslander Hector Hogan who two months later equalled the world record outdoors for 100 yards and also 100 metres in separate races on the same day on grass at Sydney Sports Ground.

It would be the first time Agostini’s thoughts turned to Australia but far from the last as the excitement built toward the Empire and Commonwealth Games in Vancouver, Canada in July of 1954 and the showdown to determine The World’s Fastest Man.

Looking back on his first world record race, Agostini recalled: “The world indoor record had stood for 30 years at 9.8 sec and I ran 9.6. We ran on (wooden) boards at the 175th Street Armory in Washington DC, no spikes, flat shoes, but it was a pretty good field including Lindy Remigino the reigning Olympic 100 metres champion and Art Bragg the reigning American 100 yards champion. That was my second race in the US. I had just gone to study at Villanova university.

“A few months later in March ’54 Hec Hogan emerged. He was known. Hogan won the Australian nationals in 1952. He was promising but he wasn’t known on the world circuit yet until he ran 9.3 sec to equal the world 100y record in one race and then on the same day he ran 10.2 for the 100m but that world record couldn’t be officially recognised because it was set in a handicap race.”

At that stage the men’s 100y showdown was being billed as the most significant and exciting event of any sport at the upcoming Empire and Commonwealth Games but the middle distance runners conspired to usurp that status.

So on August 7, 1954 during the Vancouver Games, millions tuned in on radio as the only two sub-4min milers in history raced in the Miracle Mile while the clash of the world record holders for the indoor and outdoor 100 yards to some degree lost its premier status.

The 100m world record would stand at 10.2 shared by nine men — including Jesse Owens — until 1956 when it was lowered to 10.1 yet as far back as 1953 Agostini had run 9.9 sec in Port of Spain, Trinidad.


“The officials came running down waving handkerchiefs and when I asked what’s that about they said, ‘man, we ain’t got no wind gauge and the time you run isn’t going to be believed. Little unknown boy from Trinidad,” Agostini recalled in an interview in 2014.

“So the time was not submitted as a world record but I never worried about it because I was and still am optimistic. If I wasn’t turning 80 and didn’t have arthritis and all that, I still think I could go out and break the world record. That’s what sprinters have to be like: you’re scared in the background but on the other hand you’re optimistic and arrogant almost.”

One of Agostini’s mentors was Mal Whitfield, the US Olympic 800m champion in 1948 and 1952, who influenced Mike in his approach to the showdown with Hogan in Vancouver.

Whitfield told Mike: “Man you get out there and just tell ‘em what you gonna do. And if you don’t do it you gonna make a fool of yourself and you don’t wanna make a fool of yourself.”

Agostini recalled: “So I got to Vancouver and the media met me and said ‘what have you come here to do?’ I said I’ve come for the gold medal. And they said ‘but what about Hogan?’ I just replied: Who the heck is Hogan?”

And Hec took the bait. The following day there was an interview with Hogan who said “that’s the tonic I need, Agostini carrying on like that. I’ll whip the pants off him.”

“So I kept this going the whole way through on what I’d been taught by Whitfield and also Andy Stanfield who was the Olympic 200 champion. I didn’t even speak to Hec until we got to the final and then I gave him a big smile, stuck out a hand and said ‘no hard feelings Hec, let the best man win.’ And he just went to water. He finished third. That’s part of the game.”

To some extent it seemed Agostini’s drive to be the best, the need to be known, followed him out of the shadows of those Vancouver Games when even proving himself to be the world’s best must not have seemed good enough.

Mike Agostini has died at the age of 81.
In their 14 sprint encounters Hogan beat Agostini only once but his timing was auspicious. He won the 100m bronze medal at the 1956 Melbourne Olympic Games, bumping Agostini back to sixth place.

“Look God bless him. Four years later on the day of the Olympic final in Rome we got the message that Hec had died of leukaemia. All I could say is God bless you man, you deserved that Olympic medal which is still the only Olympic men’s 100m medal won by an Australian.”

Agostini’s fourth and sixth places in the Melbourne Olympics were impressive when you consider he had travelled for seven days from the Caribbean arriving just a week before the Games, while other teams have been training in Australia for a month.

Agostini lingered in Australia after the Melbourne Olympics and returned to compete again in 1957 and in 1959 he returned and stayed, as he said just weeks ago: “Because I finally found where I was supposed to be — in the best country into the world.”

And now Mike Agostini too has run his race. He has died in Sydney, on May 12, 2016, aged 81, of pancreatic cancer with his family by his hospital bed.

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Golden Grand Prix 2016 Kawasaki IWC Results
Kawasaki (Todoroki Stadium), 08/05/2016
Men's results                 
400 Metres - Men                                             
    1 Walsh , Julian Jrummi            JPN      45.68                   
    2 Solomon , Jarrin                 TTO      45.77                   
    3 Wariner , Jeremy                 USA      46.04                   
    4 Quow , Renny                     TTO      46.73                   
    5 Sato , Kentaro                   JPN      46.75                   
    6 Williams , Conrad                GBR      46.78                   
    7 Kitagawa , Takamasa              JPN      46.82                   
    8 Kimura , Kazushi                 JPN      47.39

Solomon beating Quow now? That time indicates some physical set back.

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DOHA DIAMOND LEAGUE  QATAR DOHA (HAMAD BIN SUHAIM), QATAR 06 MAY 2016
     
100 METRES WOMEN
POSITION ATHLETE                            COUNTRY    MARK
1          Tori BOWIE                           USA             10.80   
2          Dafne SCHIPPERS           NED            10.83   
3          Veronica CAMPBELL-BROWN JAM            10.91
   
4          Murielle AHOURÉ                   CIV             11.02
5          Marie-Josee TA LOU           CIV             11.05
6          Simone FACEY                   JAM            11.05
7          Mikele BARBER                   USA              11.30         
8          Jeneba TARMOH                   USA              11.41

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DOHA DIAMOND LEAGUE QATAR DOHA (HAMAD BIN SUHAIM), QATAR 06 MAY 2016
     
400 METRES MEN
POS   ATHLETE                   COUNTRY   MARK      
1   LaShawn MERRITT   USA      44.41
2   Machel CEDENIO   TTO     44.68   
3   Abdalelah HAROUN   QAT          44.81
4   David VERBURG           USA          45.54
5   Tony MCQUAY           USA           45.65
6   Isaac MAKWALA           BOT           45.71
7   Steven GARDINER   BAH           46.39         
8   Luguelín SANTOS   DOM           46.53

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What about Track & Field / Re: 2016 Outdoor Results for T&T Athletes
« on: April 22, 2016, 05:13:48 PM »
Machel Cedenio just opened up in 44.79 to win his heat at a meet in Florida. Great start!

Very nice

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What about Track & Field / Re: 2016 Outdoor Results for T&T Athletes
« on: April 16, 2016, 09:27:06 PM »
Michelle Lee Ahye takes the 100m at CBBI in the Bahamas:
http://www.watchathletics.com/video/other/3494/women-s-100m-cbbi-bahamas-invitational-2016/
...but her start....

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LaShawn Merritt toasts the competition with a boss 2nd 100m in a wind legal 19.78. With a very average turn, this demonstrates his strength and speed endurance more than pure speed at this point. It's particularly impressive given this is mid-April; can't remember even 100/200m guys running the 200m this fast, this early.

I would not be surprised if Van Nekirk drops a similar time this season; they both need to if they expect to challenge MJ's 400m record this year or anytime soon. At 19.8 they should be able to to get out a second slower with some level of comfort in 20.8, then close 1.5 seconds slower (22.3) to get to 43.1.

http://www.trackalerts.com/Videos/lashawn-merritt-runs-19-78-at-chris-brown-invitational/6638/

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I totally agree, disappointing medal count, we are back to the age where we have 1, 2, 3 stars and not much else after that, no evidence of continuity.

Notwithstanding the marketing/promotional challenges the NAAA has to address in putting out a GREAT product for fans to come watch, they need to funnel talent from football, cycling, bi/tri-athlon, rugby etc to T&F, ensure athletes are drawn by quality coaching and facilities, that at a minimum even local meets have sufficient quality talent to market to fans (not relying on inviting expensive international stars to draw a crowd), that meets are run professionally, and that there's enough "side" entertainment to draw and keep the fans engaged (free mobile top-ups, sponsor gifts, something similar to the Trini posse experience/ distraction/ entertainment in between events).

Here are a few performance-related observations:
1. Where are the girls? We've had a serious drop off in emerging female talent, especially on the track.
2. Where are the 400m, middle distance and long distance talents - we used to have continuity in those events but of late the focus seems to be on the short sprints only.
3. Where are the technical events talents - except for a few bright lights (Horsford, Chelsea James, etc) there's little to show in the jumps (long, high, triple, vault), hurdles, and some of the field events - where did our dominance in the throws go?; everything is the javelin; we used to dominate the shot, discus, etc.

These amount to me to a number of COACHING-related weaknesses:
1. # of qualified coaching in general - not sure if this is the case but it seems that we lack and need a consistent program to grow and maintain the level of coaching proficiency for track and field; we can't just accept that a great coach retired/died or moved on, whose next?
2. # of qualified technical coaching - we need to build on the relationships with Cuba and even Jamaica (G.C. Foster) to develop and sustain
3. investment in LOCAL coaching education - with the TTOA, convince the Min. of Sports and Education to add a faculty to UTT for sports science and coaching
4. # of women coaches (HUGE HUGE GAP) - most or all of our club head coaches are male. From my observations many of them either take it too easy on the girls because they do not know how to deal with girls, do not know how to spur and motivate female athletes effectively, or do not understand how to deal with female physiology and psychology as they grow through their adolescent years.
5. Restore emphasis on base (distance runs) training, hill training, training on grass for sprints during the off-season - to build endurance, inure athletes and minimize frequent in-season injuries when reps get faster with shorter rest, and when competition becomes weekly
6. Restore emphasis on over distance reps in training - on several visits to T&T, I observed coaches not exposing their 400m athletes to 600s, 500s, or step-downs (600, 500, 400, 300, 200) type work outs, earlier in the season or once a week during competitive season.

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Jehue was most likely already selected as a contingent alternate in that instance.

I cannot remember when T&T has had the luxury of naming 6 solid 400m sprinters to a team, usually it's been just the top 4 selected from trials, with potential alternates drawn not from the 400m but from other team selectees in other events  such as the 200, 800, 400 hurdles. This was primarily due to funding limitations.

When I represented that was certainly the case. Once at the games village the team manager had to declare the roster by event to the games officials. I remember I had to go with him in one case in a Spanish-speaking country because I had some fluency.

Here is an excerpt from USATF Rules concerning relay pool declarations. I expect it's the same or similar for most nations:
Declarations
In <GAMES LOCATION>, there will be a formal declaration form for each athlete to sign, indicating that if he or she is selected for a team (including alternates), he/she will be at the track ready, willing, and able to run.  If a commitment is made and an athlete is selected as a relay team member or alternate, it is expected that they will adjust their travel schedules to be at the venue on <EXPECTED DATE>.  Declarations are due to the Team Manager by <TIME OF DAY> on <DEADLINE DATE>. Athlete declarations can be withdrawn any time up to two hours before the filing time; otherwise all selected runners (and alternates) are expected to be at the venue ready, willing, and able to run.

I've never even seen the US use 3 alternates in the heats, and they've on many occasions had 3 finalists, in some cases gold/silver/bronze medallists in Olympic Games and World Champs 400m.

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Socapro - great points.

On the relay alternate strategy, I am fairly sure you cannot rest as many as 3 of your relay squad intended to compete in a final, (a maximum of 2, given the allowance for 2 alternates to run the heats). Each team has to use resources that have been registered (presented on the team roster by event) as part of the pool of 6 athletes for the relay. That paperwork is submitted for verification once teams arrive at the Olympic village.

So even in a very rare case where there are multiple injuries impacting a team, I do not think you can bring in an unregistered 200m, 400m hurdler or 800m runner at the last minute to compete; the team will have to forfeit.

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Relay finals order (my take): Gordon to Solomon to Cedenio to Lendore

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BRONZE for Lendore  :beermug:

Congratulations  :beermug:

Relay chances looking extremely good

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Wow, the 4x400m relay made it to the final running Sorillo like you suggested SocaPro.
Luckily there were only 7 teams with just one team to eliminate in SAF.
We will most likely start in lane 1 in a disadvantaged position.

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We run the Men's 4x4 earlier in the day tomorrow before the 400m final and this is where we made another dotish management decision by not bringing along Renny Quow as part of our relay squad. We only came to Portland with a 5-man 4x4 relay squad (Lalonde Gordon, Deon Lendore, Jarrin Solomon, Machel Cedenio, Ade Alleyne-Forte) when teams are allowed 6 members which means one of our 400m finalists will still need to run in the 4x4 relay heats and won't be able to rest most of the day in preparation for the final. Our TTO team management are still making short-sighted management decisions which need to be eliminated at this level if we want to maximize our chances of winning a gold medal. I wonder if Sorrillo can run a decent 400m leg in the 4x4 Heats so that both Gordon and Lendore can be rested for the 400m Final?

I may not be as quick to condemn without more information - other than Lendore and Gordon, Solomon and Alleyne-Forte are the only other two 400m men with registered 400m times, the latter a 46.99. Who knows if Quow has any health issues (slight injuries), whether he declined based on where he is in his training, or simply gauging his effort in an Olympic year. I doubt any sane-minded selector would have overlooked Quow. Cedenio made himself available so maybe a meet at this point gives him a reference for where he is in his training. The recurring issue however is depth of quality 400m talent, we do not have the luxury of having a "secondary" corp to readily draw from.

Regarding the relay I would have included a Jehue Gordon if he is fit enough to run at this level in March. Don't think Sorillo would be of any help with the tough qualification standard (1st 2 teams and fastest 2 losers) given that Bahamas and Belgium are in our heat with some fresh runners who neither featured in the heats nor semis. For Lendore this should not be different to what he was faced with at an SEC or NCAA meet where he did even more with indoor 200m duty, yet would still run 45.1 in the individual and anchor impressively in the relay. However as a pro, he may not have the same level of fitness at this point of the year as he did at Texas A&M, in order to be in a fresher/healthier position come outdoors.

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400 METRES MEN SEMIFINALS
FIRST 3 IN EACH HEAT (Q)

HEAT 1 18 MAR 2016 19:45   
POS   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   MARK      REACTION TIME[/b]
1   233   Bralon TAPLIN   GRN GRN   45.38 Q      0.192
2   350   Deon LENDORE   TTO TTO   46.23 Q      0.198
3   269   Boniface Ontuga MWERESA   KEN KEN   46.33 Q   SB   0.209
4   161   Nery BRENES   CRC CRC   46.49   SB   0.155
5   376   Kyle CLEMONS   USA USA   46.91      0.197
337   Luka JANEŽIC   SLO SLO   DQ R163.3(b)      0.185   


HEAT 2 18 MAR 2016 19:53 
POS   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   MARK      REACTION TIME

1   171   Pavel MASLÁK   CZE CZE   45.71 Q      0.181
2   321   Abdalelah HAROUN   QAT QAT   45.71 Q   SB   0.208
3   349   Lalonde GORDON   TTO TTO   46.03 Q      0.127
4   358   Yavuz CAN   TUR TUR   46.82      0.204
5   114   Alonzo RUSSELL   BAH BAH   47.07      0.237
6   248   Fitzroy DUNKLEY   JAM JAM   47.13      0.170

Well based on these results, it looks like Maslak or Haroun in lane 6, Taplin in 5, Maslak or Haroun in 4, Lendore in 3, Gordon in 2 (due to his 3rd place, even though he ran faster than Lendore) and the Kenyan in 1.

I am assuming/hoping Lendore and Gordon were gauging their efforts in the heats and semis given they are not in the kind of shape that Taplin is in. Taplin however may or may not have run himself too hard in the first 2 rounds (like Asafa).

I suspect the first 200m in the final will be run too hard with Taplin, Haroun, Maslak, and the Kenyan (inexperience or over-confidence) charging for the break.

Lendore and Gordon may not be fit enough to go that hard and maintain the lead to the end, so their best tactics might be to concede at the break, and instead run an impeded path in lane 2 but stay very close to the top 2-3 through 250m, then make their move on the back straight (as the leaders catch their breath from an overly fast first 200m), then separate and hold on for a medal position, whatever it may be.

Good luck to them both.

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