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Cricket Anyone / Re: Cricket data visualisations
« on: January 11, 2021, 12:45:32 PM »
Some tables with career partnership data for Brian Lara




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Cricket Anyone / Re: Cricket data visualisations
« on: January 10, 2021, 11:04:58 AM »

I'm curious as to what would be demonstrated were you to compare batsmen with similar "styles" within the same generation. I'm not a cricket connoisseur but in football, in terms of a market-driven analysis, you would take players of roughly very similar qualities and place them head to head.

I think you may really mean similar roles. It seems to me that roles and styles are more tightly-coupled in football than in cricket. For instance Viv Richards and Brian Lara had different styles but they had the same role. (I also think that by its very nature cricket will be more stable in the different main roles that players have from one era to the next. Or alternatively, football will be more dynamic.) 

I'm hesitant to engage in head-to-head comparisons. Anything more than simply juxtaposing the counting statistics of the respective players is probably more effort than I can allocate as a hobbyist.  As a cricket fan, I would have opinions but articulating methodology is a different matter.

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Cricket Anyone / Re: Cricket data visualisations
« on: January 10, 2021, 10:00:01 AM »
Other historically important players:

George Headley: first WI batsman to be considered the best in the world

Clifford Roach: I had never heard of this man. Born and died in Port of Spain (1904-1988). Played in the West Indies' very first Test match. Scored the first century and double century ever for the WI.





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Cricket Anyone / Re: Cricket data visualisations
« on: January 10, 2021, 09:53:44 AM »
What takeaways do you have having seen the data comparatively? Liking it.

Batting-wise, the biggest thing that stood out to me looking at all the data is how impressive Everton Weekes was. I am now of the opinion that he is the best batsman the West Indies has ever had. They didn't play as much cricket back then so his cumulative counting statistics are not up there with players who came after but he is the most impressive/reliable to me. 

Similar to that, I now have more appreciation for Sobers. I grew up knowing of him as the world record-holder and then as the person whose record Lara broke. But now I'm more impressed looking at the data. He scored more than Greenidge and almost as much as Viv playing significantly less innings/matches. (And took 235 wickets).

There are some other things that I want to look into further e.g. the prevalence of lbw vs bowled over time.


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Cricket Anyone / Re: Cricket data visualisations
« on: January 10, 2021, 08:47:57 AM »
#11 to 15











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Cricket Anyone / Cricket data visualisations
« on: January 10, 2021, 08:23:58 AM »
I have been creating some data visualisations of historical cricket data.

Here are the top 10 total run-scorers for the West Indies in Test cricket history.















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Cricket Anyone / Dean Jones obituary
« on: September 25, 2020, 01:38:05 PM »
Australia batsman whose all-or-nothing attitude won him the devotion of a cricket-mad nation
theguardian.com

Some cricketers made more runs. Some had better averages. But no Australian player of his time created more excitement or won more devotion than Dean Jones, who has died of a heart attack, aged 59. A transformative and captivating batsman, especially in the one-day format where he led the world in his pomp during the late 1980s and early 90s, Jones earned iconic status for his sparkling footwork, effervescent strokeplay, bold running between wickets, and the strip of zinc cream always pasted on his bottom lip.

A generation of Australian children, from his hometown of Melbourne to every corner of the continent, was compelled to watch him. They wanted to be him. Jones served as the gateway into a lifetime love of cricket played aggressively to the last. In the years after his career ended, his influence was clear on the T20 revolution that followed, one he embraced as a coach, broadcaster and columnist.

Born in the Melbourne suburb of Coburg, Jones followed in his father Barney’s steps to the Carlton Cricket Club, where he was a prodigy. He graduated to state ranks in 1982, one year later falling one run short of turning his maiden century for Victoria into a double. From the hard school of the Sheffield Shield, at the age of 22 he was picked for his first Australian tour in 1984 – the toughest assignment in the game at the time, visiting the Caribbean.

It was Jones’s debut innings for his country in Trinidad that he looked back on with most pride – not a day when he raised his bat, but when he made 48 against the fearsome West Indies on their own patch. It would be more than two years before he would get his next chance at Test cricket, but what followed was one of the most celebrated innings ever played. In the intense heat and humidity of Madras (now Chennai), he finished on 210 after more than 500 minutes in the middle, so dehydrated that he struggled to control bodily functions, partially lost his memory of the innings, and ended up in hospital on a drip.

This would go on to become only the second tied Test match. Underpinned by Jones’s bravery, it heralded not only the beginning of his own era but the start of a new one for Australian cricket. A year later, in 1987, back in India and against all expectations, they held aloft the World Cup for the first time, with Jones at No 3 instrumental. In 1989, when Allan Border’s men reclaimed the Ashes in England for the first time since 1934, it was Jones who struck two centuries, earning acclaim as one of Wisden’s five cricketers of the year. Twin tons against Pakistan the following home summer, along with a torrent of runs in Australia’s fluorescent one-day gold uniform, showed the man at his most prolific.

The pin-up of a cricket-mad nation, Jones dominated the one-day game like no Australian before him. Skipping down the track at fast bowlers and spinners alike, he attacked, come what may. His 145 at the Gabba (Brisbane Cricket Ground) against the touring English in 1990 was an innings before its time – an unbridled and ostentatious joy, blasting balls over the rope before it was routine. By now there was no doubt: Deano (always Deano, never Jones) was the best white-ball batsman on the planet.

“Sometimes I die by the sword,” he would later say of his approach, “but, by gee, I had a few kills along the way.” He sure did, reflected too in his whole-body boundary fielding or his sprints for each run, like an Olympian rather than a cricketer. He was always in a pair of sunglasses, as significant to the Jones portrait as the lump of gum he chewed whenever at the crease with a County or Kookaburra blade, batting bare-headed or with a cap or in his broad-brimmed floppy hat. You couldn’t look away.

This all-or-nothing attitude was on show in early 1993 when Jones made the ill-considered decision to demand Curtly Ambrose remove the sweatbands from his wrists during a limited-overs final. Not for the first or last time, he pulled the wrong rein that night, inspiring a match-winning spell from his adversary. In part, it was an act of defiance at the end of a summer during which he had lost his Test spot despite having clocked an unbeaten ton two matches earlier. He would not add to his 52 caps, with selectors seeing fit to dispense with his 11 centuries and average of 46.6.

Jones never truly got over this, nor did his disciples. In his return to the 50-over team in the following home summer, it was a matter of faith that he had been slighted; the wrong would be righted. But when he fell two runs short of a ton against South Africa, again in the heat of Brisbane – this time with an ice collar around his neck below the signature wide-brimmed hat – it signalled a last hurrah rather than an early-30s rebirth. Within months he was jettisoned again, this time prompting an impetuous retirement from international cricket.

Sure enough, there were twists. “If they keep saying I’m one of the best one-day players in the world, then why am I not there?” Jones declared when piling on runs in his majestic summer of 1994-95 with Victoria, including an unbeaten triple-ton on his beloved Melbourne Cricket Ground. But although he was available for selection before the 1996 World Cup, the call never came.

Bruised by it all, Jones made his point the best way he knew how. When Australia returned home as beaten finalists from that tournament, Melbourne’s favourite son turned out for a World XI playing against his former teammates. He duly saluted, bringing up his century with a six into the Southern Stand. His supporters bellowed his name that day just as they defended his every frustrated public utterance. However long he was out of favour, he never stopped being their guy.

A decade in the canary yellow produced 6,068 runs at an average of 45, including 53 scores beyond 50, as well as signs reading “BRING BACK DEANO” for a decade more. Domestic cricket had to fill an initial gap, first in England, leading Derbyshire to their best finish in six decades in 1996, then for Victoria until 1998 to complete his career with 12,668 runs across formats, at the time the record for that state.

Another chapter began beyond the boundary. While his thoughtful words in print were valued at home, it was in Asia that he was revered as a coach, ultimately leading to success at the helm of Islamabad United in the Pakistan Super League in 2016 and 2018. In 2017, when the trailblazing Afghanistan men’s team was in need of a coach at short notice, it was Jones who stepped in to do the job.

It was inevitable that Jones would court controversy as a broadcaster – he was remorseful to the end about a discriminatory remark in 2006 that insulted the South African Muslim batsman Hashim Amla. His years on the airwaves offered endless enterprising theories on the 20-over game, which he coached so well and would have been so suited to playing. He died the night after commentating on an Indian Premier League fixture.

Jones was appointed AM (member of the Order of Australia) in 2006 for services not just to cricket but to cancer fundraising. A year ago he was inducted into the Australian Cricket Hall of Fame. But there remained a lingering resentment at feeling insufficiently respected by decision-makers at home, resulting in him revoking his life membership with Cricket Victoria after being overlooked for two T20 coaching jobs.

Antipathy was part of Jones, but it never defined him. Instead, he’ll be remembered as a player first and foremost, for work on the field that lives on with those who saw it. It spoke volumes that he kept putting on the whites for his club well into his 40s in the city where he was adored, in a game that was blessed by his lifetime contribution.

Jones is survived by his wife, Jane, and their two daughters, Isabella and Phoebe.

• Dean Mervyn Jones, cricketer, born 24 March 1961; died 24 September 2020

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
« on: November 11, 2017, 07:34:35 PM »
Unbelievable.

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wasn't oil around $53/b when the budget was announced? Anyone knows what price the budget was based on by chance?

If I remember correctly, Imbert said that they were working with an estimate of $45.

He cited two independent estimates (one from Moody's I think) at $50 and $53 and said they were working with $45 to leave a "buffer".

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Football / Re: Who is our all time great?
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:53:08 AM »
Latapy.

I'm willing to believe that we may have had comparable players before. Even so I think he wins on longevity. Latas was our best player from the late 80s to the early 2000s. And then of course came back for the 05-06 campaign.
Latas was always the star when he was on the field. Whether he played with Yorke, Nakhid, Dwarika, Faustin or whoever.

Yorke's club achievements are superior but Latas wins for performance for the national team.

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Football / Re: Fitness is a Huge Problem
« on: July 20, 2015, 11:31:49 AM »
I think a significant part of the fitness issue is the fact that we don't have a lot of possession. Also defensive mistakes add up.

Our players spend a lot of energy chasing the ball or sprinting to get back in the right position.

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Football / Re: Oliver Camps Thread
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:49:07 AM »
“I was not involved in the administration of the football.” - Oliver Camps, TTFA/TTFF President 1992-2011

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: April 14, 2014, 08:06:31 AM »
Officially eliminated on Saturday.

Yesterday was the first meaningless game since 2010.

I think this was the most disappointing season ever. Don't remember such a disparity between expectations and results.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: NBA 2013-2014
« on: February 03, 2014, 08:31:10 AM »
Durant really looking to end LeBron's run of MVPs.

David Stern's last day in charge was Friday. We now in the Adam Silver era.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:08:34 PM »
50+ games to go.

Undefeated in 2014. Rockets tonight.



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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: December 17, 2013, 10:07:11 AM »
well, last night take the cake.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: December 13, 2013, 06:43:46 PM »


Boy we see this movie for 7 seasons arready oui

1 OR 2 games he does play like BEAST....and for the next 80 games does lumber around de court breathin troo he mout

Allyuh think is Melo and dem causin de Knicks to have such a dismal run,, is not dem, is dat Roman blight,, until allyuh get rid ah he Knicks go play like de Raptors

I realise that in some ways he's an inherently inefficient player. Long 2 point shots are the worst shots to take but that is his strong point. He is not quite consistent enough from 3 point range to capitalise on it as a skill.

If you play him at one of the forwards then your other forward has to be an above average rebounder who can guard a quick small forward.

On nights that he's lights out it works but his game doesn't really have any margin of error.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: December 09, 2013, 11:45:03 AM »
this team eh

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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P. NELSON MANDELA!!!!!!!!!
« on: December 06, 2013, 08:28:40 AM »
This is one man who could've gone in any country and be respected and loved.

P.S. I'm trying to remember the name of the song that the calypsonians got together and sung to raise aid for Africa. Anyone knows the name?

I believe you are talking about Now is the Time.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: December 06, 2013, 06:35:01 AM »

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: December 05, 2013, 09:33:16 AM »
3 day break was good.

Fellas just completely out of sorts.
Is that 9 or 10 in a row... I loss count.  Steups.


Early still.

Yes it is. There will still be 60% of the season left when Chandler comes back. And of course the conference is bad. The danger is that the team throws it in too early.

Fellas just completely out of sorts. Finding all different kinda ways to lose. Let's hope they take care of Jersey tonight.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: November 29, 2013, 04:37:04 PM »
Need a win tonight. One way or the other.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: November 21, 2013, 01:53:02 PM »
doh know what to say after that one.

The offensive foul call on Melo was the most inexplicable call to me. Never seen anyone draw a charge leaving their feet before.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: November 18, 2013, 08:38:16 AM »
Woodson has to bench someone if he wants to keep his job.

First up is Felton: atrocious D, not making shots, not finishing at the basket and has no chemistry with Bargnani. After that is JR. Doesn't necessarily have to be permanent but they can't be getting 30+ minutes while playing that badly.


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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: November 06, 2013, 10:32:44 AM »
Caught the second half of the game against Minnesota... good fight to challenge at the end, but no excuse for falling into such a deep hole against Milwaukee.  Kevin Love is a beast and Rick Adelman proves why he's one of the best coaches in the game in my mind.

Didn't want to say anything after the Wolves game.

If there's no excuse for falling into a hole then I don't know what to say about falling behind Charlotte.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: November 01, 2013, 07:27:19 AM »
Real tough. Yeah, I would like to see Felton be more assertive in running the offence in those situations.

Big shot by Rose. Progress from Bargnani I thought.

Onto the next one.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: New York Knickerbockers Thread
« on: October 29, 2013, 07:23:52 AM »
OK, basketball is officially back today.

Starting off with a back-to-back against the Bucks and the Bulls tomorrow and Thursday.

Looking for a big season from Shump, the usual from Melo and I'm hopeful about Il Mago.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / NBA 2013-2014
« on: October 29, 2013, 07:20:54 AM »
Happy Basketball Day, everybody!

Heat-Bulls and Lakers-Clippers tonight. (Also Orlando v Indy)


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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: 2013 NBA Playoffs Thread
« on: May 16, 2013, 07:05:02 AM »
And why exactly were the Knicks sending double-teams at David West and Ian Mahinmi?

I was just starting to accept that Chandler can't handle Hibbert, now this.

And if you're going to send a double-team make it a strong one so the man can't see the court. Men heding on West and Mahinmi then getting caught in no man's land when they kick it out for the open 3.

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Trinbago, NBA & World Basketball / Re: 2013 NBA Playoffs Thread
« on: May 16, 2013, 06:52:00 AM »


Not sure how you putting this on Woodson... take a look at the Knicks roster and tell me which "scorers" you'd put into the game?

Cope had 7 20+ games and 2 30+ games this season despite the fact that he only got 15mpg when he played. He featured in 56 games including 13 as a starter and on several occasions that he got big minutes Woodson followed up by saying he had to find more minutes for him. He got 20 points per 36 minutes (which trailed Melo and Stat and was just ahead of JR). So he would be the natural place to start. 

Prigioni is a superior scorer to Kidd, and even though he is a pass-first player he is enough of a threat that his decision-making allows him to get other players easier shots. Prior to last game the Knicks had outscored playoff opponents by 40 points when Pablo was on the floor and been outscored by 20 when he was off the floor. So that would be a guy you would expect to get more than 3 minutes. Kidd on the other hand is providing even less productivity than Mike Bibby was providing last year.

The evidence of the regular season was clearly that the team works best when Pablo and Kidd are splitting minutes fairly evenly.

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  neither Novak or Copeland can create his own shot.

True about Novak. Creating his own shot is Copeland's primary skill.

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So if you put two spot up shooters in the game against an Indiana team that is denying the three... how effective would they be?

I don't know that I would necessarily play them both at the same time but right now we're playing a bigger lineup to match them on the boards, getting outrebounded anyway and then having nothing going on the offensive end. At least those guys would provide spacing and allow Ray and Melo to get into the paint or for Tyson to be more aggressive rolling to the basket after all those high picks.

This is a team that we split the season series with that is doing exactly what they did all season while we are doing the exact opposite of what we did to win 54 games. 


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