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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Guyana Game (11-Nov-11).
« on: November 08, 2011, 08:07:25 AM »
So Harford and dem ain't test the idea of a charter?
Coulda fly in the day of the game and digs out right after, organise a lill lime before the game somewhere and after, etc etc.

If I was based in T&T I woulda seriously consider going as I never been to Guyana.

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Football / Re: Stern John eyes more goals for T&T.
« on: November 07, 2011, 09:03:52 PM »
I dont think SJ was never truly appreciated in the general jist of things.
People who know football know SJ was the best forward we have EVER produced to perform in national colours. Yorke dont even come close.
SJ took us to the WC, and carried the team on his back countless times.
A true legend. An unstoppable phenon before the first serious knee injury and yet came back and achieved so much.

the masses might not like him because of his style of play and as we all know forwards who go on a little drought get stick.
But men who cry down SJ dont know about football, plus is in we blood to badtalk, thats our nature. Imagine people badtalking the curfew, SMH

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Guyana Game (11-Nov-11).
« on: November 03, 2011, 09:19:50 AM »
Wonder if it have a Guyana Jaguars Online forum.
We get rivals from Ja, Haiti, Bim, USA, Panama etc, cant recall ever seeing a Guyanese visitor...

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Football / Re: Who was better? Kevin Moze or Sean De Silva?
« on: November 03, 2011, 08:16:57 AM »
I remember going an U-20 WC qualifying game sometime in the mid 90's and we were playing Cuba, winner qualifies directly....One of the Moze brothers get send off for retaliating against a cuban for a hard tackle by hitting the man a burners.
Not sure which one it was, but that pretty much sealed our fate, as he was the heart of the T&T team...

Tallman?

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Cricket Anyone / Re: If Afghanistan can achieve ODI Status, so can T&T
« on: October 29, 2011, 03:32:56 PM »
i hope people following TT against the CCC..We in plenty trouble. Now I know men go bawl how players away with the WI. But yuh team hadda have depth. That we don't have. Couple of injuries and international teams wud be cutting we tail.

No way No how we could go it alone. We might feel big and mighty now with the group of players we currently have, but everything is a cycle!



Good post, at that level we will be embarassing against the other top teams.
We might be the top T20 team in the region, but at limited overs we are not, we still struggle and are inconsistent.
Dont talk for 4-day matches, we almost in the lower half of the region.

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Football / Re: Who was better? Kevin Moze or Sean De Silva?
« on: October 29, 2011, 03:28:39 PM »
hands down Moze.

De Silva good and solid, I was impressed with him until the last WC in Egypt where he looked very poor and outmatched.

If Moze was around in these days, he would have been heralded as the next big thing. As men say, back in them days was much harder to make it beyond school - opportunity plus in them days the ballers imho was better individually.

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Football / Re: Former Jamaican National Footballer Winston Griffiths Dead
« on: October 27, 2011, 08:06:16 AM »
Condolences.
This bring back  memories when I was living in jamaica and shorty malcom died in the accident that Whitmore was the driver after a game.

RIP baller.

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sometime u jus need the right club to excel....
Good luck Stars, really trying to be professional about this whole thing.

Keep raising the bar in all aspects of the football business.

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So everything up to this post has been focussing on the negatives about this contract that the TTFF signwith Traffic, but I am sure there has to be some positives to having a contract like this.
eg guaranteed payments, elevated payments etc.
What have we to gain from this contract (or better yeat, what does Warner have to gain from this)?
In theory, TV contracts like this should have a positive for the federation that is selling the rights ent?

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Football / Re: Thread for the 2011 Pan-American Games.
« on: October 22, 2011, 08:53:46 AM »
fantastic results, by both the men and women!
This may be unprecedented at any level for T&T.

Whatever national team Mexico sends out, it is world class.
As I said in a post a few days ago about how T&T matches up against Mexico, both these 2 teams have proven my point even moreso.

Lets face it, there was a bit of luck involved, but as they say you make your own luck. On a different night, we might have lost 1-4, but thats not this time.

Fact is we went into mexico and drew, that is one of the best results I have ever seen a T&T team achieve. Perhaps more important than the 1 pt gained from this result, is the confidence from these players that they can actually get a result in Mexico, just like when the young T&T team drew with jamaica 2-2 a couple years ago in Kingston.

Congrats fellas, grow from strength to strength.

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Football / Re: Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
« on: October 20, 2011, 04:23:56 PM »
Yea, at the end of the day we all know Warner tell the man bring the money, we all know that he was fully aware that it wasn't declared and we all know to a man like Jack Warner, these kinda dealings is almost routine.

But proving it is a different kettle of fish.

And I will not be surprised in the least if Bin Hamman bring a lot more than $40K for Warner personally to facilitating all this.

Wow, we end up on Warner in a Stern John curfew thread.

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Football / Re: Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
« on: October 20, 2011, 02:29:00 PM »
Do we know for a fact that Ben Hamim didnt declare the money?
DO we know for a fact even if he didnt declare it, that JW asked him "aye breds, you fill out your deceleration form on the plane coming in and declare that cash?'

That not a small crime as u say dey breds, that a big deal actually, thats the root of money laundering right there...

Thats why it before Mr Gaspard at the moment.
If they can make out a case, then by all means arrest the man!

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Football / Re: Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
« on: October 20, 2011, 02:11:52 PM »
Socacrappo u is a ass or a marble?
If I hadda shut my ass that mean you hadda keep yuh mouth closed.
They say with age comes wisdom, but like you is the exception to the rule.

If u take a moment and think and not let your anti-PP sentiment cloud your judgement, you will know since the Free Kick Discussion Forum I was one of Stern's biggest fans and supporters. I play against Stern nuff times against Eldo and small goal down in UWI. We practically grow up with the same crew of people.
But that dont mean I going to defend him if he break the law. Steups, if u do shit, you hadda face the consequences. Oh fack man, some of allyuh is the greatest yes.
Hear what this argument come to - comparing Ian Alleyne driving and talking on the phone, WDMC, allyuh be pragmatic nah man, how the ass you could compare a man driving in an alleged mass killer to the police, TALKING TO THE POLICE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS for the handing over the man to a man ALLEGEDLY caught breaking curfew. It is almost laughable.
So if i coming home late one night from 51 and a car load of bandit following me, and I call the police for help, they should charge me when they come to assist???

This argument here is whether the man break the curfew or not.
Yes I assume there was cussing involved because I have been in situations like this before, police not just going and arrest a group of men minutes to the curfew time jus so. Is either the men cuss the police, or the police pull rank at 11pm sharp. Whatever it is, the man was CHARGED not CONVICTED!

Yuh stull aint answer meh question about Jack Warner - tell me the law of T&T he broke based on that video evidence for him to be arrested now. Dont forget this is all now before the DPP to determine if he did indeed break any laws. But u want them arrest the man now now, just because they arrest Stern. Steups.

Come nah man pro, u is a old man I respect here long time, think before yuh talk nah.

But like yuh losing it dread. First it was impotency that Sam and TrueTrini diagnose u long time ago for, now is like we hadda add stupidity...
Yuh brain going impotent now too?



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Football / Re: Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
« on: October 20, 2011, 10:02:04 AM »
since when T&T Express and Guardian does get anything right?

If is really true that they actually arrest him BEFORE 11pm, well then is bollocks, that is real shite.

Who knows what really went on.

But seriously tho, I doubt any police in T&T will arrest Stern John jus-so minutes before 11pm.

There is more to this story than we all assume.

I am sure that cussing was involved, mini threats etc.

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Guyana Game (11-Nov-11).
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:37:59 AM »
shabazz that nasty asss...


So if Italy plays England in the Euros, then Capello should sell out the game?

How about if Manutd plays Rangers, Fergie should sell out the game.

What about Birchall in the game against England in WC 2006?? Should he have scored an own goal?

steups!!

Allyuh remember when there was the rumour of Nakhid helping Bahrain in 2005??

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Football / Re: Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:30:54 AM »
So lemme ask you a question Socaprostate - in order to enforce a rule of law, the requirement is that you also enforce the rule of law in every single other scenario where a law is being broken?

I can see it now - Queens Council Socapro arguing for Stern John in front the law lords - "well my client should be freed from breaching the curfew your highness, because we have other people in Trinidad who have not been arrested and charged for talking on their cellphones while driving".

Yuh asking if i duncy, me aint no lawyer but I could tell you that stern john broke the law of the land directly on Sunday night. I can also tell you that Jack Warner did PERHAPS break some law, but why should he be arrested now when the case is still being reviewed by DPP Gaspard??
Remind me again what law of T&T did Jack Warner break at the Hyatt that can be proved??

With regard to Ian Alleyne on his phone while driving, you think anyone at that moment studying that when they interested in capturing an alleged mass murderer? In case your memory is blurry, the mayor of Chaguanas was arrested on Sept 30th for talking on his cellphone while driving.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_broke_the_law_-130894863.html
I guess he should have hired you to be his lawyer and argue that he should be freed because Ian Alleyne was not arrested for doing the same thing?

Yuh hatred of the PP and this curfew affecting your analytical thought breds. Bess yuh go and play some kaiso, sip a Carib and cool down a bit padna.


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Football / Re: Glen, Leon, and Jorsling on trial at Song Lam Nghe An
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:11:53 AM »
I aint know nah, personally going to Vietnam is a real scene.
Having been there and spent time there, that place reaaaal flikking far. Second, its like a whole different world. Culturally them men will be in a daze. I can guarantee you that. The food over there real different, I hope them fellas aint get too nashy. And we aint talk about the language thing yet.

Simply put, just going over there is a big gamble.
Vietnam as a football country is rank shithong.
I am sure their league standard aint much better. I but their top clubs aint that different to T&T top clubs.

But I am very sure they pay good, cause their club games are very well supported.

So as RF say, the main thing is to make a dollar for your family, so man will take it and local clubs will get something.

I have no idea why our players dont have connections to go to Latin America or even France or Spain or more to portugal. If you could understand Vietnamese you could more than cope with Spanish.

We really need to get back in the top 75 in the rankings yes.

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Football / Re: Stern John arrested for breaching curfew
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:02:27 AM »
Allyuh is kicks here yes.
Imagine people arguing about the fact that there is an investigation into an apparent breach of the law by allowing Stern bail when he should not have been released.
Thats what we come to now,,,, arguing about doing the right and lawful thing.

Like the law dont mean anything anymore, no wonder the facking society the way it is in Trinidad where indiscipline and indifference rules.

Whether the SOE is warranted now or not, the law is the law, whether you like it or not, I really cant believe some of allyuh justifying bending the rules because is either a celebrity citizen or people dont agree with the SOE.
If you dont like the SOE law, then very quietly write an editorial to the newspapers and leave the country.

Fact is the man break the law, whether the officers should have let common sense prevail, well none of us were there in the situation. Suppose Stern and he crew cuss out the officers and get on wassy? U really think any officer going and let that slide? Steups.

Charge them! And take them downtown.

And Pro I expect better from you comparing the SOE laws to apartheid, steups.
Next thing you want to attack the breathlyser or seatbelt law cause it crush your shirt in getting from point A to point B.

I personally think the SOE was a great idea when it was called, but I think it is now past its usefullness.
Hopefully it will be dropped in time for my Xmas visit home!  :beermug:

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I dont see the difference between the Barcelona players doing that and what we saw on the tape with Warner

Both not legally breaking rules.
Ethically it is questionable.
Both looking for an advantage

 :rotfl:

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How much money does the TTFF owe the players? Do they owe them so much that the Ministry of Sport would let our federation go to ruin.

What I think will happen is: they will get a bail out of some sort.
People will be forced to resign. ( sort of, since they won't want it to seem like the gov't is messing with the football). But heads will have to roll.

Besides the federation will make more money if we make the next rounds, and even more so if we make the hex. ( not  that I think it's going to happen)

I was going to say the same thing about the bailout and change of management, but remember FIFA golden rule of non interference by the state - this will be very tricky.

I glad the TTFF getting squeeze.
It is very clear that their organization is not being run properly, has not been done so for a very long time.
I wonder if they can take a page out the cricket board, although I know even that has its own bacchanal, but at least the TTCB appears to be viable and innovative wrt developing the local game..

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Football / Romario disses Messi
« on: October 19, 2011, 08:30:42 AM »
As much as I am always in awe of Messi, Romario have a point, although he somehow sees himself as one of the top 3 of all time, LOL. I think Rivaldo will have something to say about that!

But seriously, Messi is the best in the present day.
But I still will not put him on the same level as Ronaldinho at his prime or the original R9 Ronaldo pre-injuries.
He still in the same class to me as Kaka at his prime, or Cristiano final year at Man U.

I wont even mention him in the same breath as Zidane either, muchless Maradonna or Pele.
NOT YET .....


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/971357/romario:-lionel-messi-has-a-long-way-to-go-to-be-great?cc=5901


Romario: Messi has a long way to go
October 19, 2011

By ESPNsoccernet staff

Former Barcelona striker Romario says that World Player of the Year Lionel Messi has a long way to go before he can be considered the greatest of all-time.

Romario
GettyImagesRomario has placed himself second in the all-time list.

Messi stirred the debate himself last week when he claimed that he had never seen Pele - considered by many to be best player in history - play, with the great Brazilian promising to send him a copy of his film so that he could study up.

However, 1994 World Cup winner and former Barcelona striker Romario has now added his voice, claiming that Messi must first overcome Diego Maradona, and himself, before thinking about Pele.

"If Messi sees the video, he'll probably learn some things," Romario said at a press conference. "You simply cannot compare him with Pele. You cannot say he is the same when he has never won a World Cup.

"Messi has all the conditions to be the best one day, but first he has to overcome Maradona, Romario and then eventually Pele."

Romario played for Barcelona for two years between 1993 and 1995 and won one La Liga title with the Catalans before a journeyman career ended in 2009 and he took up politics, becoming a member of the Brazilian Parliament.

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Football / Re: Not so easy road for Soca Warriors towards Brazil 2014
« on: October 18, 2011, 01:41:59 PM »
So I know we have a crucial double header against Guyana coming up in 3 weeks time.
But this morning I was actually thinking about going Brazil in 2014 seriously for the first time - logistics, time off, if I will be alive, when to pay down on stuff etc etc, inevitably my mind run on whether I will have to be choosing games with Trinidad in it or just go for the experience.
So I start thinking about our chances realistically to qualify.


I think seriously 90% of the people on this site believe that we will get past guyana but then get beaten by Costa Rica and Mexico in the semi-final round...Most people seem extremely unhappy about our state of affairs, recent results, the Jack Warner situation, not reaching the Gold Cup etc etc. By and large, its not the brightest time for T&T football.
But if you step back and look at the big picture, at the history of qualifying in CONCACAF, you will realise that nothing is clear cut.
Lets just assume and accept that we will beat Guyana over 2 legs and qualify for next hear, the situation will look like this:

Group A - United States, Jamaica, Guatemala, Haiti
Group B- Mexico, Costa Rica, El Salvador and T&T
Group C - Honduras, Cuba, Panama, Canada

Group A - US will obviously go through, I will not bet my house on Jamaica, as they are inconsistent. Haiti as well, so if Ja comes out flat and Haiti comes out flying, anything can happen. Obviously Guatemala will have something to say. But the key thing is that either of these 3 teams, T&T can beat at home and at least fight for a point on the road.

Group C - Tough group to call again,I dont see a definite winner. I honestly do not see Cuba making it out though, but like Group A, any of the other 3 teams can make it. Again the key point is - T&T can beat any of Honduras, Panama or Canada at home and be competitive on the road.

So far, we can compete against 3 out of 4 teams in the final round, I will take my chances against any of them (we all know we will be lucky to split the US games)....

So that leaves Group B - Mexico will win this group most likely, they are and have been in fine form last couple years. Their coach has built a 22 man squad that is an excellent unit. By far the best team in the region. But Mexico has a slight penchant for inconsistency, but I feel they are a definite lock for coming out this group. El Salvador is a beacon of inconsistency (like T&T), one day they look like CONCACAF powerhouses beating small teams to a pulp, next day they are put in their place. Personally, I rate 2 countries in Central America where I think T&T has a chance on the road - El Salvador and Panama. In 2010 WCQ we got 4pts from El Salvador, it should have been 6 except for the meltdown in the first game. So that brings us to Costa Rica. T&T has never matched up good vs COsta Rica, ever! Heck, we even lucky to draw. We can forget about beating them in San Jose....But to be honest, we do not need to actually do that... Costa Rica is also known for some surprising let downs against other central american teams, nothing is a given with them in their games vs Mexico and El Salvador. Its all about the matchup. So as much as we cheer for T&T, we will have to be cheering for whoever is playing Costa Rica. They are our big threat to the final Hex. If we can beat them at home, or avoid defeat, thats not that bad to be honest. It might sound ridiculous, but I can easier see us beating Mexico at home than Costa Rica, its just the way we match up against them.

Make no doubt about it, the semi-final round is gonna be our toughest round since 98 qualifiers when we had Costa Rica and USA  in that group and we finish with 1 point after 6 games. But I cannot stress enough, we matchup very poorly against the US either home or away and much better vs Mexico in Trinidad.
The real prize will come if we manage to get out the Semi-final round, as the Hex will theoretically feature Mexico, USA, plus 3 other teams I would consider easier than costa rica for Trinidad to match up against.
I like those chances to be honest.
Can you imagine a scenario with T&T playing Jamaica, Panama and Guatemala for 1 and a half automatic spots??
Even more attarcative is the fact that we do not need to worry about the South American giants, as the 4th place CONCACAF team will play New Zealand. So making it to the HEX, I like our chances a great deal.

The problem as I see it is Costa Rica...and ourselves.

We need to get our house in order. Been around for too many campaigns to judge T&T from too early. All we need is some chemistry, good gameplans and a forward who goes on a run and we can reach far. We are our own worse enemy in this case.But these early qualifiers is a blessing. We actually playing games.

Once we qualify next month, there should be a small task force set up to figure out how to get past Costa Rica as well. Another key thing is momentum- T&T traditionally does well when we start of good, and poorly when we lose the first game. Hopefully we get El Salvador first in the semifinal round.

Once we can get out that semi group, I think we will do well in 2013....

So, not looking past Guyana too much, but the way I see it Costa Rica and T&T - the 2 big hurdles in the way of seeing T&T in Brazil 2014.....



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Allyuh is kicks yes, as much as I does shake meh head whenever KND post, he make sense here.

You put Joe Public to play against St Augustine Senior, they will look like Barcelona.

You put Trinidad vs barbados, they will look very good.

Put T&T against Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba and you will see a big fall in standard, and we aint even talking USA and Mexico and Costa Rica where we chase the entire game without the ball.

It is all relative people.
WHile kudos m must be given to Pilsner for trying to adopt a good brand, we must not get carried away.
This is why we need flikking friendlies before the next round start....

Its just like trapping and shooting.
You take any man on that national team squad list and put them in training, they all have supreme ball control and technique. Even Seon Power will handle a ball better than we all give him credit for.
But put these same men against top level opposition who close you down incessantly every minute of the game very aggressively, they will look like sunday league players. Add the fact that we are not fit, it makes the easiest and most basic parts of the game seem the most difficult.
That what separate a player like Dennis Lawrence/Seon Power/Marvin Andrews et al from a player like Jlloyd Samuel. I see Samuel playing for Trinidad under pressure on the wing with a high ball and he jump up, chest the ball, kill it dead and then bring it down as he dropping back down to ground and turn and move out of pressure in one movement. I have NEVER seen a T&T player apart from Yorke and latapy do something like that in a competitive game. And I am very sure the other T&T players can all do it in training and by themselves under no pressure or in PFL games...


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Football / Re: Pfister goes Bizerk at post match interview
« on: October 13, 2011, 01:16:21 PM »
Pilsner is a man who wlda see this nuff in Africa. They have agents there who take people money, carry them europe and disappear and leave them on the street.

I wonder what the relationship like between these agents and the local clubs...

Football is a business, u cant stop local players looking to move up.

This is where FPATT hadda step in and protect players interests from jokey mickey mouse deals...
Sadly, some of these players  have limited experience in these sort of things...

On the flipside, I always wondered why our players and agents never looked at South America/Central America, Spain, POrtugal, France more than thay did in the past....
Language excuse is bullshit, in this modern era that not an excuse. If u a true professional, you will adjust.
Tevez cyah say boo in english if he try yet he the highest paid player in England and the top striker there is. Scores of non english players flourish in England.

When last I checked, Copa Libertadores was not that far behind Europeans Champions League....

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Football / Re: So After De Bermuda Fiasco
« on: October 13, 2011, 01:05:25 PM »
Bermuda Result - first shocking result I believe under coach Pilsner. Latas produce nuff tata results while he was in charge. Dont forget it had men from the start on this forum was calling for the man head even before we kick a ball.

Attire - IMO, a coach should be properly well dressed as he is in the public spotlight. But that is a man personal business at the end, if he want to dress like Pilsner or bang out a different D&G suit every week like Pep. I cantreally recall a local coach dressing down and getting stick for it in the recent past. Latas, BSC, Fervier, Najaar, Corneal all used to dress decent enough on their own. That U-23 coach just stating his personal opinion cause Pilsner does dress like a limer

Smoking - LOL, steups, when a local coach ever get lambast for smoking on the sidelines?? Steups. Even Latas didnt smoke on the sidelines, but that was his own choice, he never do it and get any flack.


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So here is what reputable large multinational companies do to prevent this sort of drama...

They have something called a gift registry which MUST be used by any employee that receives a "gift" from someone who does business with that company.
You hadda enter the monetary value of the gift and this documentation will be sent to the legal department. They will then advise on whether there will be the apparant perception of conflict of interest/trying to bribe in smart etc etc.
If it is cleared, you could accept the gift.
If it will remotely appear that it will be controversial, you hadda return the gift or let higher management take it from there.
As an employee if you do that, you are in full compliance and ethical.
Now JW dont have much higher to go than him in FIFA besides Blatter, lol, who just so happens to be Bin Hamin's opponent.
But I am absolutely 100% sure that a body like FIFA will have a very formal gifts registry that the legal unit will be closely monitoring.
Here is where the personality of FIFA comes in, we know its one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. I am sure its only the mid and low level officials who actually follow the rules and utilize the registry.
If that the case, JW acted improperly and unethically and he did the right thing by resigning.

But in a court of law, he appears to have not broken any laws.
Even the decleration of Cash, that is fully on the man/people who bring in the cash.
You really think a Govt minister/FIFA VP have time to think about every single situation and chase down a man and ask him if he remember to declare his cash??
At the end of the day, JW did the best thing by resigning, it is also very very clear that there is a conspiracy against him by others in FIFA and perhaps English officials connected to the press/Jennings.
If I were him, I would get a real good PR company and you can spin this to a big advantage.
But then a man like JW must be aint have the time to do that, and then also, what the point?
He FIFA career done.

What is sad is how may people here jump up excited excited and saying Jack get ketch, Jack is the devil, finally proof of what we knew all along about how corrup he is.....Please think for yourself independently and not succumb to personal opinions and what the British press said. its almost like "massa say this, so is so" all over again.
I am the first to say I glad JW officially gone from T&T football (we all know this not really the case), and someone like him in Govt sends the wrong signals, but this whole situation about this tape is a joke, very deceiving from the British paper.

Boss post Bakes on page one....

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As much as I dont like Jack Warner who we all know is a master crook and smartman, after watching the entire video and reading the transcript, he broke no law here.
What he did was unethical, and as CONCACAF President, he should have directed the members not to accept anything, heck he should not have even convinced Bin Hamin to bring anything.
But we all know this is how the world works, from political parties to companies and their contractors.
He was unethical, not illegal.


I actually find his speech to be somewhat noble in that he actually gave people the choice of returning the money if they felt a ways.
But then is Jack Warner we talking about, so what is noble for him is expected from a mortal soul.

Not sure how much weight the ethics violations has in FIFA, really doesnt matter cause he resigned long time.
What was insightful was the personal tirade against Platini.

Jack mash up England and now is payback.

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Football / Re: Ronaldinho hopes for Brazil return
« on: October 11, 2011, 10:40:28 PM »
Agreed. He was class today.

I see Neymar do some things on that field today against them Mexicans....Geez an ages.

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Football / Re: Soccernet just mentioned this website
« on: October 11, 2011, 09:06:15 AM »
Best post you ever made RF.

Flex, boy......

 :beermug:

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Football / Re: Could we beat San Marino?
« on: October 11, 2011, 08:58:16 AM »
Asylumseeker - boss post.

One thing I always find amusing is this whole talk about how our football in dire straits because we struggling with caribbean opposition.
People need to look at history before commenting - in 1989 with our full Strike Squad taking over from the "B" team at the Shell Cup Finals, we lost to Guadeloupe and edged Grenada 2-1 to win the inaugural title.

World Cup Qualifying has traditionally been very competitive once you get into the group stage.
Just ask Jamaica who got knocked out in a group with Bermuda and Puerto Rico in the 94 qualifiers (after they beat T&T in the prelim playoff).

People seem to think we have an automatic right to dispatch other Caribbean nations in qualifiers and Copa Caribes, but history tells us otherwise. Right now Guyana seem like the team in form in our group, in 1988 when the Strike Squad started their journey, you know who they had to beat? We scraped a 1-0 win in Georgetown...

Point is, to routinely dispatch these caribbean teams, you must be at a consistent world class level. There are only 2 teams in our region who fit this bill. Costa Rica tries but still not there yet, they even lost a WCQ in Bridgetown a few years ago!
On any given day, a decent caribbean team will beat any CONCACAF opposition at home (well maybe make it a difficult match for USA and Mexico). Football is about matchups. Not because T&T draw with Sweden and Sweden beat San Marino 5-0 mean that T&T will beat San Marino 5-0.
T&T always seem to matchup good vs Mexico in POS and we seem to have Panama's number (Panama somehow manages to trouble the best of concacaf consistently). We matchup very poorly vs the US, Costa Rica and Jamaica (who is like Trinidad on steroids for physicality).

I will take narrow wins on the road (with the occasional draw) and solid wins at home any-day in Caribbean level WCQ.
T&T has been to every Hexagonal round since 2001 - the only team outside the top 3 to do so.
Have faith, we will win this group.

El Salvador, Costa Rica and Mexico waiting  ;D



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