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Other Sports / Re: NFL - Michael Vick and Dogfighting
« on: September 05, 2007, 11:42:32 AM »

Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Heating up yuh speaker box
« on: September 04, 2007, 12:01:22 PM »
Stop that Train - Clint Eastwood and General Saint

Football / Re: Defence Force thwart Tobago uprising.
« on: September 03, 2007, 08:19:39 AM »
Watch for Connection to turn it on at the end of the season.

Defence Force thwart Tobago uprising.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).

Tough luck? Not according to Defence Force coach and former Trinidad and Tobago international standout Kerry Jamerson.
"We are professionals even before we go on to the field," said Jamerson. "We have that mental edge and discipline over the other teams... We work very hard as a team."
A discussion about football with the ex-"Strike Squad" star is garnished liberally with words like "hard work", "consistency" and "mental strength". There was evidence of all three characteristics yesterday as Defence Force shook off a substandard performance to close in on the Pro League leadership.

I like what Jamerson says there, it starts off the field. He is succeeding with an admittedly less talented and smaller pool of players than most other teams. I wonder how he would do with a team like Jab or Rangers.

Other Sports / Re: felix trinidad v roy jones jr.
« on: September 01, 2007, 11:02:09 PM »
Clash of Titans, tito is good but Roy is one-of-a-kind, dat man on a completely differnet planet. Of the great fights that could have been I think Roy Jones Jr.vs Sugar Ray Leonard would have been spectacular.

Football / Re: New CFU and TTFF websites
« on: September 01, 2007, 10:50:24 PM »
The ttff site is nice. But, the cfu site is a joke!
it is better than what they had before
 zilch, nada, nutten, nothing, rien ;D

Fuh real

Football / Re: in defence of intercol
« on: September 01, 2007, 10:14:49 PM »
palos and zandolie i never said intercol does not have its faults my basic points are
1: it cannot be blamed for the insanity in korea that blame rests solely with the technical staff
2: it needs help and improvement but it is a part of our trini identity

What we should actually be discussing are the merits of Primary School football and how we can get our better coaches working at this age, with a specific focus on improving technique. This of course could supplement similar programs at the club level (if they already exist)

Kaiser you are right it did need help, a radical reoganization. We had a good thing, our thing, but the SSFL, TTFF were LAX . The speed at which football is changing requires lightening adjustments to stay competitive.

But in the midst of destruction lie the seeds of opportunity, in fact they are right under our nose as we speak. As Observer stated club money in T&T will be moving into youth development. Here it is;  golden opportunity for TTFF and the primary schools league to hook into that money for real development. Maybe primary school ball is not as glamourous as intercol, but great things sometimes spring from the smallest and least expected places.

The schools and TTFF have a great opportunity NOW. If they fail to do take advantage of this other competing vehicles like private academies and foreign players will be the beneficiaries. And another World Cup will see us crying and complainng about the same thing over and over and over and over.......


Football / Re: in defence of intercol
« on: September 01, 2007, 01:49:41 PM »
Intercol is great part of T&Ts heritage. Trinidadians have a profound emotional attachment to their schools than most and Intercol is is a driving force behind this school spirit. Schoolboyfootball was a wonderful introduction to the process of establishing friendships, socializing with girls and building as sense of pride. But as close to our hearts as it is ,intercol in its current state can no longer meet the needs of top-level youth football in T&T. Whatever our feelings about intercol the reality NOW is it is gradually being superceded by professional and community run football clubs in T&T. How did it come to this point? 

First, intercol as a gathering ground  for the best ballers in T&T is a myth. In T&T education was split along the lines of trades and classical education via common entrance. Many youths that failed CE were forced either to work from  a young age or join trade schools. Some of the best young players of this country  NEVER played in the Intercol showcase league.  In spite of our love of intercol it was always in a sense elitist football.

The education system in T&T and other post-colonial nations uses sport primarily as a metaphor for masculinity and as a vehicle for social development, NOT as an aim of education. Around the world, sport has been trumpeted to promote war, promote peace, promote cultural homogeneity, promote racial and ethnic tolerance, promote racial and ethnic division, and promote physical and mental well being.  But it is still  RARELY recognized as a real and viable PROFESSION for the young to aspire to. In Trinidad football is still MARGINALIZED from "real education". Hence few if any overtures have been made by government or SSFL to integrate football into the structure of  education, as an END, not simply as a means. 

But change is inevitable; when change occurs institutions and individuals must adapt, die or most commonly, face a lower quality of existence. Any sportsman knows this. The acceleration of international capital injection into football has changed the climate of the game everywhere including Trinidad.

Fact: The football world has changed forever.
Fact: SSFL has not responded to this change.
Fact: Private interests represented by the professional leagues will adapt to this change
Fact: The response of private interests will and is changing the structure of youth football around the globe and in Trinidad

Intercol is becoming increasingly irrelevant as the best players increasingly associate with their professional clubs.

We may not see it, but it is happening.

The school/club debate, like all debates is at its root about competing social values. SSFL supporters, quite rightly, believe intercol is  living history. But the SSFL rested on its laurels and has not  recreated itself. Because of this I really feel Intercol is in danger of being reduced to a "homecoming" style event from its current status as a national showcase league.

The people believe that the SSFL is impeding development only have a point if a footballer needs to play for their school in order to get a scholarship. If they do not, then simply continue national training, from what I gather most of the u-17 would skip intercol to train together anyway. Regardless, SSFL is neither the great saviour nor the great nemesis of Trini youth football the competing interest contend it is.

Anyway these are just my opinions, I freely admit to being very uninformed. Ah new here doh cuss meh too hard;  ;D ;D ;D but as a Trini I ah have to run mih mouth (fingers).

Football / Re: OLYMPIC QUALFIERS - What goin on?
« on: August 31, 2007, 01:04:28 PM »
 :rotfl: :rotfl: Some ah allyuh real bad min in dis place! Where dat passa passa tournament was again?

Football / Re: Jemmott sent packing by Superstar Rangers
« on: August 31, 2007, 10:57:57 AM »
Yeah Palos I guess that's the part of the reality of modern professional sports, you can get punished for expressing your passion for the game you love.

Well, better passa passa ball than dogfightin yes

Would like to see him in connection line up, they could afford him  :D

Football / Re: Jemmott sent packing by Superstar Rangers
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:49:19 AM »
I take it these guys get $$$ for these tournaments. Is it possible players are engaging in these outside ventures because the compensation they recieve from their teams can't cut it? Does anyone know how widespread this is?

Football / Re: Jemmott sent packing by Superstar Rangers
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:35:19 AM »
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[  I wonder who will pick him up, if he gets picked up.

Football / Re: Warner wants Under-17s in Super League
« on: August 31, 2007, 03:26:04 AM »
Well let us hope the staff comes really through for these young men.  Jack really seemed  supportive of them. Then again....... :(

 If people feel Fenwick get stink over Peltier  lord help Jack in 2009 when he tell Fenwick he pullin
Stephen Knox out Jabloteh squad for World Cup "preparations" against Agostura 1976.....

Playing in PL or SL will reap more benefits than SSFL anyway, which is what Jack may have been thinking out loud.

Football / Re: Warner wants Under-17s in Super League
« on: August 31, 2007, 12:56:36 AM »
DCS I hope you are right, it sounded as if the analysis he was getting reccomended cohesion over individual performance.

Football / Re: Warner wants Under-17s in Super League
« on: August 31, 2007, 12:39:32 AM »
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

The pro league is in an uproar over this same nonsense. Imagine the Mexican FA telling Barca that Dos Santos had to play in the Segunda to keep the Mexican team together. Quality of opposition not just quantity Jack, please get that through yuh thick Rio Claro skull. If this happens which I doubt then at least put them in PL or in PL reserves. No way they not beating Tobago or Police. From World Cup to House of Dread, only in T&T. We need a Steups icon on this board oui.

#14 = underrated and underappreciated!

Other Sports / Re: NFL - Michael Vick and Dogfighting
« on: August 30, 2007, 02:14:53 PM »
Fowl don't wag they tail or lick yuh hand when you reach home. They don't protect your house or show you love even after yuh beat them. -JMHO


That $$$ will probably get drop on solvency and expansion. Espcially recruitment and development infrastrucutre. They sold 1/2 the squad this year but still

competeing well. They need a goal scorer, depending on how Frias performs into the season.

Football / Re: ttu15 1 vs el salvador3
« on: August 29, 2007, 01:06:08 AM »
We coddle young players. Look like they may need to tweak the selection process so mental attributes like coachability get showcased over skill. Carrington better learn to see and adapt real fast, and communicate what he wants. If not we might as well bring back Ron La!  8)

Football / Re: De Silva grateful for U-17 experience
« on: August 28, 2007, 05:23:52 AM »
WestCoast, the SSFL for sure could be a great outlet for players who may not be able to play for a club for whatever reason, but they behind the curve,

dedicated  school coaches not withstanding. SSFL heritage is good for school pride, some of my best memories as a schoolboy were seeing Ian Clauzel,

Vernon Skinner and the like rep their schools. But if they rest on their laurels and don't adjust to new trends in football they risk becoming a league of

secondary or tertiary importance. I think we are  s-l-o-w-l-y  heading toward a new era of football where its no longer Britto from QRC; its Britto

from Jabloteh. The SSFL needs to make sure it stays relevent because T&T football needs ALL the help it can get! Anyway, no offence to any SSFL fans, just my



Football / Re: W Connection launch youth movement
« on: August 28, 2007, 01:35:58 AM »
Good things happening. This could be a milestone initiative if or when other clubs respond in kind. It might help shift youth showcase ball  from Intercol to club .  If the SSFL keep nappin on itself it will wake up irrelevant quick step. That would be a shame.


Football / Re: T&T U-17 suffers 5-0 loss to Germany.
« on: August 26, 2007, 11:41:09 PM »
From beau-brummel

 Sports / Soca Warriors Online Discussion Forum / Re: Haiti vs Martinique Update?  on: January 12, 2007, 11:21:14 PM 

Small magician, what's with the profanity?  Why are small people always  so angry? Three F**k in a row! Control your emotion and maybe you might be able to contribute to an intelligent discussion. Leave the cursing out of the forum. Personally I am above that....

 Sports / Soca Warriors Online Discussion Forum / Re: Haiti vs Martinique Update?  on: January 13, 2007, 03:14:47 PM 

We'll see who the real fools are, and by by the languages on this thread, we are already aware who they are. We are all here to post our comments, it can be done without the F words etc... Check your emotions, and count to ten before posting. Childish use of profanity does not accomplish anything.

Football / Re: Alone in Korea
« on: August 26, 2007, 05:25:29 PM »
 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:  Brilliant, brilliant post. I feel shame for O'Connor and almost shame to add my 2cents.

In a subsequent column I will give you the preparation schedules of the other teams in our group, and I will give you our warm-up schedule. And when you ask why we are not as prepared as them, I will ask you for your support in our next campaign, so that we can be just like them. Will you be there for your sons?

I wish Mr. O'Connor would please explashiate on how public support will make the federation alter its preparation schedules in the next campaign. Is he

suggesting that if I watch our u-17s play Harvard FC the TTFF would have lined up that mini tournament with Brazil and Haiti  they promised instead of

Joe Public or Crab Connection?  In more responsible nations this abyssmal and consistent failure to secure support from a jaded public AND funding from the

business sector for such events would be cause for RESIGNATION of the administration members charged with those duties. The public was not apathetic

in the days of the Strike Squad, Defence Force and Trintoc, North/south clash. What happened and who is to blame for that?

Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Germany U-17 Game
« on: August 26, 2007, 06:55:51 AM »
Big props to our Under 17 team and the coaching staff for getting us to this world cup. They played the best their preparations afforded them. They

held the midfield in the 2nd half but the Germans had already dropped back somewhat and were playing for the counter. Da Silva looked good and used his space

well,  considering. I only hope the youths were not too discouraged and come back stronger as our 2009 u-20s. I wonder if Corneal will remain the coach? I hope

he too can progress to the next step? We still need coaches with his level of experience in T&T. He WILL have to take the post-mortem heat and explain his

rationale in using the D to support attack after all those goals scored. Frankly Wim job lookin a bit more secure now.


Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Germany U-17 Game
« on: August 26, 2007, 05:24:31 AM »
Which is exactly my point as well, if speed is relative then you change to suit tactics, but coaching skill is relative too. I think the coaching staff seriously

underestimated the physical ability of the opposition and coached this technique too much in practice. Now perhaps they are not confident enough to change to



Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Germany U-17 Game
« on: August 26, 2007, 05:05:09 AM »
Rodney, speed is a relative term yes! These defenders were speed demons in the CFU and among the best in CONCACAF. If we had sent them on just one

African tour they would have a clue what was about to face them. Well their horizons just got broadened. In spite of all this I still give this team props for giving

just for fighting to get here in the first place. commentator just say Caribbean teams need to play the worlds best on a regular basis AND improve physically.

Steups, everybody here know dat.

Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Germany U-17 Game
« on: August 26, 2007, 04:56:13 AM »
They were lookin' half decent for a little while but this is an extremely poor defensive showing now. The team fightin hard but some players just ball watching

and losin concentration. That right side is LEAKY! The players bun, Cyrus runnin hard but like he was gettin stitches just before the last goal. Maund and Lewis

fading in and out of the game. Like the other teams before they are overpowering T&T with speed and strength. I jus hope the psychological damage on these

young men is not too great. If they recover from this we have hope. We could really use a sports psychologist now!


Football / Re: Corneal already looking beyond Korea experience.
« on: August 25, 2007, 03:23:10 AM »
From the last poster, Coops:

 ÈI've often said we don't play enough Football,in the US Soccer is played year round,when i say year round i mean you can find a league/tournament to play in any time of the year,Football is still seasonal in T&T,no Indoor leagues,Minor leagues (dead),Sand Soccer etc etcÈ

I read some of your posts and you are more definitely knowledgeable than me in football. But I feel if we play in T&T all year round our small size means we play

the same set of people over and over and the best players feel they are THE standard.  Hence the shithong-starboy syndrome AKA

 big fish small pond that hindered the careers of some of our more gifted T&T players in the past (I refuse to call names  ::)). Development of the young player

comes mainly by adaptive adjustments the player makes when stretching themselves to meet established standards.  According to Corneal the U-17 players have

 said that the speed and technique of the Ghanaian and Colombian players was like

nothing they experienced before. The old barriers have been exceeded and they have a new threshold to aspire to which is what everyone knows is the silver

lining.  A usefull analogy might be a boxer that has plenty potential but only fights in his small club. He may accumulate a 100% victory rate in the club but he

would  be a better fighter if he fought better quality opponents and had an 80% victory rate. The best solution is a lot of playing time at a level where you are

forced to  fight for every touch of the ball. I feel that only possible in a big pond environment.


Football / Re: Corneal already looking beyond Korea experience.
« on: August 25, 2007, 02:23:12 AM »
Greetings all
I tried to post this earlier tonight so if it comes up twice dais why. I am no football expert but to me team preparation is very simple, at least on paper. The TTFF could start Monday morning.

September 1st. 2007. -Start the process of finding a national under-12 coach and management team, select coach and team officials by November.

January 2008. -Team selection done, training begins 1 X week for 3 months.

April-July. -Play a Tobago U-12, pro-league U-13s. Go a mid-table CFU nation like Grenada, Vincy, Bim etc. to play 2 games against their U-12 team.

January-April 2009. -Our now U-13s train 1X week for 3 months.

April-May. - Play pro-league U-13 XI, Tobago U-13, Tobago U-15, joint training sessions and games against the T&T U-15s. Pick a CFU minnow like Aruba and play 2 games against their U-15s . They will be grateful for the practice minus the massive cut-ass. Go another CFU mid-power and play 2 games against their U-15s.

August - Enter the the U-13s in the 2009 U-15 CFU tournament, expecting victories against CFU minnows and competitiveness against mid-table teams. We advance from our group prepared to go down fighting against Jamaica, Haiti and T&T U-15s. :devil:

January-April 2010. -Resume training. 1X week.

May-August.  Pro-league U-15 teams, a pro-league U-15 XI, Tobago U-15s, and joint training with T&T U-16s. Play 2 games against one of Haiti, Jamaica, or Cuba U-14s .

January-March 2011. - Resume training 1X week.
April- August. Enter Dallas Cup tournament in U-17 category. Play Pro-league U-15 XI, Pro-league U-17 teams, Tobago U-15, and play 2 games each against two mid-table U-15 CONCACAF teams (Honduras, El-Salvador, Cuba Guatemala and Panama, Haiti).

August- Enter CFU U-15 tournament. After 4 years together and at least 6 internationals, we clean fackin house.  ;D

October-December. Resistance training. Play U-20s, Pro-league teams.
January- April- Two of USA, Costa Rica, Mexico, Canada. 1 Mid-table African team, 1 mid-table UEFA or academy team.
April- CONCACAF U-17 WC qualifications. At this rate we should be superior to all but Mexico, US and Costa Rica, following history.
June-August. Friendlies against 1 African top 2 qualifier, 2 European top 4 qualifiers and a top 3 S.American qualifier.

This is very simplistic  but something along these lines is the kind of investment required of US to reap the benefits of qualifying and advancing in successive U-17, U-20 and Senior WCs. Fancy plans and talk will never make this happen. The financial, organizational and political challenges would require exceptional initiative, innovation and execution on the part of the TTFF, like  getting government, pro-league, private sector involved. I donèt know if this is achievable under this TTFF.


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