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General Discussion / Re: Do You support Homo's?
« on: January 30, 2009, 01:49:11 PM »
An old pastor used to say.  "If you not sure what you r, check yourself. "   It may sound crued but Pastor was referring to the beginning before the fall of man when things were the way God wanted it.  Back then it was Man and Woman and God called it good.  Good has not since changed His standards.  It doesn't matter how much the society changes, God's standards and expectations are the same.   The union of one man and one woman.  Marriage is the first institute of humanity.  Gods created it.  So we don't get to vote on it or change it.

Because of this fallen world and a very real dark side.  Eph.6:12 says " We wrestle against spiritual wickedness in high place against, dominions and mights etc."  Their job is to deprave man so that God can be mocked.  Why? Because God's affection is with human kind and not angels. (Dark or Light)  The darkness have issues with the light so to hurt to light you attack the object of it's love.

I guess you could make an argument that their is homosexuality at a cellular level.  The bible doesn't dispute that at all.  Actually, you can make the case for anything alcoholics, disease, serial killers.  We underestimate the seeds of the darkness and their ability to sow all kinds of trash into a life.  Next thing you're thinking this is how you were meant to be when the truth is you have received into yourself corruption, willingly or unwillingly.   Proverbs 4 reads

20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

   
   21Let them not depart from thine eyes, keep them in the midst of thine heart;

   
   22for they are life unto those that find them and health to all their flesh.

See the Word affects your heart/spirit but it's also able to change u on a cellular level.  I'm sure you've heard the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.


If if God understands how man can be trapped by the darkness He doesn't receive any excuse because He has shown us what it should be like from the beginning. 

Romans 1
18For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness,

   
   19because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath shown it unto them.

   
   20For from the creation of the world the invisible things of Him are clearly seen, being understood through the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.

   
   21For when they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God, nor were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

   
   22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

   
   23and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and to birds and fourfooted beasts and creeping things.

   
   24Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies among themselves.

   
   25They changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

   
   26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature.

   
   27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men, working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense for their error which was meet.

   
   28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not fitting,

   
   29being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity. They are whisperers,

   
   30backbiters, haters of God, spiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

   
   31without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affections, implacable, unmerciful.

   
   32And knowing the judgment of God, that those who commit such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but have pleasure in those who do them.

I don't have any ill will to homosexuals but I do have a problem with thing forcing me to accept their lifestyle.  What next? Child rapest, and murders organizing saying they just do this for fun.  You might think there's a difference but not to God there isn't.  Read the list above.

 :-\  :-X

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General Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas SW Limers
« on: December 24, 2008, 07:33:55 AM »
Seasoned Greetings all!  May you all have a wonderful Christmas with your loved ones and all the best for the coming year.  :cheers: 

Ah looking forward to pics in the new year of Tallman with he new jeri curl.  First person to get ah snap post is here nuh.  He going to the beauty salon today self. 

Cana, das a real special card yuh post dey.  Thanks.

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General Discussion / Gary Hunt promises to honour first Olympic hero
« on: November 16, 2008, 12:18:44 PM »
At last:



In our last issue, dated October 23, Adrenalin highlighted the fact that the country's first Olympic medallist, Rodney Wilkes, is virtually unknown and has been living in obscurity for the last 40 years since he brought home two medals - a silver and a bronze.

On Monday, Sports Minister Gary Hunt responded by giving his word that he will explore "all existing programmes that are available to assist Mr Wilkes". He also said that he will seek to honour the Olympian in a "more susbtantial and lasting way".

The Minister, a sportsman himself, revealed that his ministry plans to hold a recognition ceremony for all past Olympians in the coming fiscal year. "We have not forgotten our past heroes," he said. "They should be respected, and we want Mr Wilkes to be publicly honoured in such a way that young athletes coming up can look to him for inspiration and learn from him how to rise above all adversity."

We had asked readers to join us in a campaign to have the Government properly recognise the achievements of the former weightlifter, who is now 83 years old. The response was overwhelming. We received more than 60 emails from outraged and saddened citizens. We thank all of you who took the time to write in for responding and supporting this campaign. Here is what some of you had to say:

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General Discussion / Re: Who hear about the scandal at Power 102 this week?
« on: November 09, 2008, 08:53:25 AM »
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 08, 2008

Invalid persons

So on 25 October, just four days after Reporters Without Borders released its 2008 Press Freedom Index--in which Trinidad and Tobago slipped eight places down from our 2007 ranking--Mr. Manning took such visceral offence to the on-air comments of a couple of radio journalists that he swooped down upon the 94.1 FM office, with all the security detail commesse that prime ministerial dignity apparently requires, to make a personal complaint to the station management. The two journalists were swiftly suspended.

What were the vicious and scandalous comments that so roused Mr. Manning's righteous ire? Today's Express helpfully publishes a transcript. They had the nerve to--drumroll--criticise the government's gasoline pricing policy, and mock Mr. Manning's suggestion that cars be converted to run on CNG.

Prime ministerial dignity, it seems, is a delicate and fragile thing. Mr. Manning was "aggrieved", he said. His rights as a citizen were trampled on. Worse, this kind of criticism by the media, Mr. Manning said at a press conference two days ago, could even bring the country to its knees:

... too many of the commentators either in the newspapers, or in the media or on the radio, do not respect our institutions. It is a question of being disrespectful to institutions and authority, and pursuing a course of action that could cause the image of these institutions and individuals to be tarnished in the minds of those in whose interest they are set up to serve, and therefore they could become completely non-effective. That is the risk that we run.

Never mind that many citizens would say the institutions and individuals of the Manning government are already "completely non-effective" at solving the real and urgent problems facing the country. Forget the murder rate, the babies dying in hospitals, the near-permanent gridlock of the country's transport infrastructure, the power outages and water lock-offs, the widespread belief in massive corruption and fraud at high levels of government, the secret new constitution now being drafted that will consolidate executive power, etc etc etc etc. What we really need to worry about, Mr. Manning seems to believe--and he even seems hurt that we don't agree--is a free press.

The Media Association of Trinidad and Tobago and the Trinidad and Tobago Publishers and Broadcasters Association have rightly--and forcefully--objected. Today's Guardian and Newsday run strongly worded editorials criticising Mr. Manning's stance. Georgia Popplewell at Caribbean Free Radio has weighed in. Taran Rampersad at KnowProSE lists his concerns in an open letter to the prime minister.

But the real question here is even more fundamental than freedom of the press and all citizens' freedom of expression. In a letter printed in today's Express, C. Peters says: "It may do Mr. Manning well to remember that prime ministership is leadership and not ownership." In her column in today's Guardian, Attillah Springer makes a similar point:

We can't imagine ourselves ever as anything else but good slaves, doing massa's bidding. We can't bear the threat of the threat of massa's whip coming down on our backs.... We can't be anything that is not expected of us. Loyal servants, with ready smiles and words of praise.

Mr. Manning's radio station raid is yet one more reminder--as if, Lord, we needed another--that in Trinidad and Tobago democracy is not a practice but a concept, and a concept that we still, forty-six years after independence, do not really understand, much less believe in. In a representative democracy--the form of government we claim--the people's representatives, our members of Parliament, and the prime minister chosen from among them, have the duty of acting in the people's interest. Instead--with the help of a constitution which already concentrates too much power in the executive's hands, a system of tribal politics that is destructive of clear thought, and a succession of politicians enamoured of the trappings of power--we are lorded over by an administration which seems to believe it is the people's duty to act in the government's interest.

Mr. Manning has demonstrated over and again his disdain for criticism--however useful, however well meant--whether it comes from the media, the public at large, or even from within his own party. The 94.1 incident is perhaps not even the most serious example we've witnessed of late. I have no doubt that the Trinidad and Tobago media, backed up by their regional colleagues, will face down Mr. Manning's threats of personal and legal action against journalists by whom he feels "aggrieved". But who among us is facing up to the bigger and deeper crisis, the bankruptcy of "democracy" as a meaningful idea and principle and practice in twenty-first-century Trinidad and Tobago?

Because we are all responsible.

More than three decades ago, Martin Carter summed up his social and political ideal for the Caribbean as "a free community of valid persons."

I have never in my life felt so pessimistic about us merely understanding this ideal, much less achieving it.

Nicholas Laughlin

http://nicholaslaughlin.blogspot.com/2008/11/invalid-persons-so-on-25-october-just.html

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General Discussion / Re: My mother used 2 say
« on: November 05, 2008, 11:52:56 AM »
weary i real sad to read this.  i hope she is doing ok.  make sure she and the family gets some counselling.  that kind of incident takes a toll on the whole family.

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General Discussion / Re: Hotels in Trinidad?
« on: October 23, 2008, 05:50:49 PM »

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General Discussion / Re: Whats the hardest thing you ever had to do ?
« on: October 20, 2008, 06:42:01 PM »
ah tell yuh...the man forgot to take his meds.  jaw dropping rhetoric though.

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General Discussion / Re: Whats the hardest thing you ever had to do ?
« on: October 20, 2008, 06:30:41 PM »
ah glad you ketching kicks.  i was blasted vex.  so what ah miss?  ah see ah guatemalan come and disrupt the usual peace and serenity of the board.  lol.

with some racism sprinkled on top too.

he seems a few cards short of a full deck.  Cana might know him, she living in Ward 3. 

oy Kaiso. 

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General Discussion / Re: Whats the hardest thing you ever had to do ?
« on: October 20, 2008, 04:08:28 PM »
ah glad you ketching kicks.  i was blasted vex.  so what ah miss?  ah see ah guatemalan come and disrupt the usual peace and serenity of the board.  lol.

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General Discussion / Re: Whats the hardest thing you ever had to do ?
« on: October 20, 2008, 03:55:07 PM »
Stop.  The man nicknamed Frenchie, had none!  steeeeupppps.  :busshead:

heh heh ...ah laffin loud ;D
cause wid me and my corrupted mine, ah feel ah know wha dat bout :rotfl: :rotfl:


 :angel:  that was no laughing matter nah gurl. 


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General Discussion / Re: Whats the hardest thing you ever had to do ?
« on: October 20, 2008, 02:05:56 PM »
Stop.  The man nicknamed Frenchie, had none!  steeeeupppps.  :busshead:

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What about Track & Field / Re: pure hate and act normal
« on: September 01, 2008, 09:42:55 AM »
EH!! ALL OF ALLYUH FORKIN SLAVE MINDED WESTINDIANS IS DE SAME FORKIN TING, WHETHER , JA , TRINI ,BAGO , GT, BADOS, ect. ALL AH ALLYUH LUV TUH PULL RANK ON ONE ANOTHER... GIVEN THE CHANCE !!

 I DOES TIRED TUH HEAR ALLYUH DOGG EACH OTHER BOUT WHO'S BETTER THAN WHO, AND THE TRUTH OF DE MATTER IS, ALL AH FORKIN ALLYUH SUCKKK BIT TITS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND ALLYUH IS THE SAME BIAS KAKA HOLES, FROM JA IN THE FARTHEST NORTH TO TRINIDAD IN THE FARTHEST SOUTH!!

 LOOK THE WAY ALLYUH DOES BE DISSIN EACH OTHER ON THE FORUM, WHEN THE TRUTH IS, ALL OF YUHS ARE AH BUNCH OF COLONIAL SLAVE MINDED PUMPUS MDCNTCKSKIN#*&% BACKWARD COCONUTS JERKS !!

ALLYUH BETTER LEARN THAT T&T , JA , BADOS, VINCY, GRENADA, GT, WAS ALL SLAVE COLONIES LOADED WITH PLANTATIONS FOR ALLYUH TO CUT CANE AND PLANT COCO FOR MASSA TUH GET RICH , AND WHEN HE HAD NO MORE NEED FOR ALLYUH , HE RUN OUT AND LEF ALLYUH TO FEND FOR ALLYUH SELF, AND ALL OF AH SUDDEN ALLYUH HAVE PEDEGREE AND TELLIN EACH OTHER DAT ALLYUH BETTER THAN EACH OTHER. NIGGA REAL FORKIN LOSS IN DE SOURCE YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

JC tanks for injecting the proper dose ah context and outrage.   :applause:

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What about Track & Field / Re: Usain Bolt - 19.30 New World Record
« on: August 20, 2008, 12:36:10 PM »
NEW FLASH!!!


Churandy MARTINA of Netherlands Antilles finished and American Wallace Spearmon finished third, but both were disqualified for stepping on lane lines.

That elevated American Shawn Crawford, who entered as the defending Olympic champion, to silver and teammate Walter Dix to bronze. (Full results)

Spearmon's DQ happened almost immediately after the race, but he learned only after several minutes of celebration. Martina's DQ came nearly two hours after the race, after officials analyzed video replays.


Damn!  i now seeing this!  high drama! ah was so happy for Martina.

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Football / 'Tiger' Roars.
« on: August 20, 2008, 04:55:28 AM »
'Tiger' Roars.
T&T Guardian Reports.
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Former national footballer Alvin Corneal had expressed in the Arena issue of July 6, the idea that the TTFF must not depend on the T&T women players who are resident in the USA to improve the level of the sport but must look locally for players. He was disappointed that 13 girls from the USA represented T&T in the recently concluded Concacaf Under-17 World Cup qualifying tournament. Today, T&T Football Federation (TTFF), technical director Lincoln Phillips gives a response to Corneal where he totally disagrees with his thoughts.

Alvin Corneal’s latest failed attempt at objective analysis appears to indicate, once again, that he is of the opinion that any endeavour in which he is not a main or significant contributor is unworthy. However this time, Alvin took the route of xenophobia in an attempt to undermine a project in which he is not the focal point. As one of the few witnesses to the inside workings of the T&TFF, Alvin should know better than to impishly raise the tired controversy of “foreign versus local” when addressing the U17 women’s program. In fact, he should be ashamed of himself for donning the robes of a demagogue.

The whole idea of hiring foreign coaches for the Women’s program did not occur in a vacuum. The entire women’s staff met with officials of the T&TFF, including Jack Warner (Special Advisor), Keith Look Loy (Technical Advisor) and myself.

After a lengthy discussion regarding the future direction of the woman’s program, it was agreed by everyone present that the U17 program would improve only under the guidance of coaching assistance from abroad. It should be noted that Jamaal Shabazz was in full support of bringing in coaches from abroad. Head Coach, Marlon Charles has also been a staunch supporter and beneficiary of the new direction and the commitment to bring resources to a women’s program that has endured despite being overlooked for many years.

As a result, two top Head Coaches from the United States collegiate coaching ranks were retained to prepare the U17 team for the recent U17 Women’s World Cup qualification tournament. These two coaches, Randy Waldrum, University of Notre Dame and Butch Lauffer, West Texas A&M University, performed their tasks admirably and with the utmost level of professionalism. Alvin’s attempt at sarcasm when alluding to the U.S. coaches’ “magic wand” was neither clever nor insightful but rather illustrated the insecurity of an individual who earned an unimpressive 49-34-7 (W-D-T) record while coaching at North Carolina State University. He is clearly not in the position to critique coaches who have actually won championships.

Aside from the unwarranted broadside of the coaching staff, Alvin’s assessment of the “American Trinis” was lacking in both substance and logic. While Alvin accurately recognized the technical and athletic deficiencies of many of our local female athletes, he seemed to advocate choosing a team based upon a player’s address rather than their ability. Such a strategy would be considered coaching negligence at best and at worst, discriminatory. It is well known that citizenship requirements determine whether or not a player is eligible to participate on a national football team. The players, known by some as “passport players”, that Alvin seems to take issue with are eligible to represent T&T. At the CONCACAF tournament like any other competitive endeavor, you play to win the game. This is the reality of international competition. Once we get past artificial controversies created by those who have their own agendas, the objective of any competitive program is to put together a team that has the best chance to win within the rules of the competition.

Are these “passport players” the future of women’s football in Trinidad and Tobago? I cannot say. In fact, the answer will be largely up to the local players themselves and their ability to answer the challenge of the new standard that has been established. Currently 9 of the 18 players on the present U17 team received their passports just prior to the recent tournament. As Technical Director, I would like to reduce dependence on international-based nationals in the shortest possible time. Not because of any misguided belief in what is “foreign” or “local” but because our national team players would be more accessible to both our coaches and supporters. For this to happen, support must be given to create and strengthen primary school and club football leagues and camps for girls in the U8 through U14 levels. Currently the T&TFF is negotiating with stakeholders to help facilitate bold initiatives in the development of the women’s game. Indeed, developing players domestically will be less costly than recruiting players with T&T parentage. We should, however, continue to provide opportunities for our nationals living abroad to maintain and strengthen the ties with their native land. However, we cannot lose sight of the fact that when the time to compete comes, we must select the players who are best prepared and able to win.

Even though our attempt to qualify for the U17 Women’s World Cup fell short by goal difference, our planning and approach has yielded increased visibility and attention to the women’s game in T&T. Costa Rica, who beat our women out for the third and final qualification spot by goal differential, beat our team 6-0 several months before the qualification tournament when we used all local players. We tied them 0-0 in the tournament.

Two months before our training camp in the U.S, we lost to the T&T U20 team 6-0 with all local players. Upon our return with the new “Passport Players”, we tied the same U20 team 0-0 twice. Costa Rica and Mexico understand the realities of competition and Alvin should take note that over percent of the Costa Rica and Mexico teams were made up of “passport players” from the U.S.

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General Discussion / Re: Jah Cure for Kojo Funeral in Port of Spain
« on: July 29, 2008, 03:34:26 PM »
Chatter...what is dat ole saying...."those who live by the sword, die by the sword"?

Nice post.

hmmmm...it wasn't me that write that one eh.  ah should have copy and paste the writer too.  t'was Raffique Shah in his Sunday column. 

Fraud.

pardon? 

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General Discussion / Re: Jah Cure for Kojo Funeral in Port of Spain
« on: July 28, 2008, 04:28:55 PM »
Chatter...what is dat ole saying...."those who live by the sword, die by the sword"?

Nice post.

hmmmm...it wasn't me that write that one eh.  ah should have copy and paste the writer too.  t'was Raffique Shah in his Sunday column. 

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General Discussion / Re: Jah Cure for Kojo Funeral in Port of Spain
« on: July 27, 2008, 03:05:09 PM »
When greed leads to grief

THE dovetailing of two incidents last week laid bare reasons why, in spite of its immense potential, this country seems to be destined for self-destruction. First, there was the execution of a reputed gang leader, Mervyn "Cudjoe" Allamby, in Aranjuez. Note I did not use the generic name Cudjoe, an Anglicised version of the African name that even those who bear it are unaware of. It's a bastardisation similar to Cuffie or Cuffy, the African root being "Kofi", and among Indians, "Maha-beer", a European version of "Maha-bir".

But back to Cudjoe's killing: that he was supposedly lured into his death-trap following another double murder is testimony to two aspects of underworld living-and-dying. One is the ease with which gangsters and gang leaders are "taken out", often by their accomplices who know them well. And the other is the brazen manner in which such killings occur, the killers confident they can commit serial offences without police intervention. It's the same with bandits who commit serial robberies, again knowing police response time allows them to escape unscathed. Acting CoP Philbert may want to look at this gaping loophole in crime fighting and try to plug it.

Following Cudjoe's death, a mass of people from the East-West Corridor erupted in spontaneous sympathy that was mixed with seething anger and a genuine sense of loss.

Why was there this outpouring of grief over the death of a man who seems to have been both feared and loved in the communities that knew him, felt his touch? Listening to many people comment on Cudjoe's life, the majority of them wondered who would give them money and material things he did.

A few admitted he'd led a life of crime but suggested he had "turned his life around", that he was now a peace-maker, not a law-breaker. Having sifted the many comments I heard or read, I deduced that Cudjoe will be missed mainly for the material things he doled out to those for whom a dollar is a dollar, matters not where it came from.

That people can be so insensitive to those who suffered or died in order for them to enjoy handouts, defies explanation. I have repeatedly written about bandits and thieves not adorning themselves with tonnes of stolen gold-which suggests others, including "respectable" jewellers, benefit from banditry. Parents know their children are robbing hapless people. But as long as they benefit, they accept the loot. How many more hide guns-hell, maybe even corpses-for their criminal offspring? So while crimes are committed by a handful of criminals, their support-bases are huge, driven not so much by poverty as by naked greed.

The other event of note was the collapse of the Hindu Credit Union (HCU). I know little of the early development of this institution, which existed for years before Harry Harnarine became the driving force behind its rapid expansion. Harry must take credit for moving the HCU from a hole-in-the-wall operation to the empire into which he transformed it. But by similar token, he must also shoulder blame for its demise. What bothers me is that it did not take a Harvard whiz to see where Harry was going wrong. This country suffered from the collapse of many big financial institutions in the 1980s, all because of poor financial strategies and management.

Financial institutions that accept short-term deposits at higher-than-average interest rates, but use the money garnered in long-term investments, tread on very dangerous waters. That is what happened to Harry and the HCU. Having cornered people's money by offering eye-popping returns, he soon acquired almost the entire thriving borough of Chaguanas. He bought everything in sight, and much out of sight. The HCU offered property owners way above what they expected to get for their properties, so they sold and the HCU acquired.

As he went on to spread his wings into ventures not normal for credit unions, he soon saw himself-and was seen by others-as King of Central Trinidad (sorry, Mayor Suruj: you didn't quite make the cut!). He ventured into commercial enterprises, supermarkets, media houses, plans-for-housing, and more. His empire, much like Cudjoe's, attracted greedy people from high-to-low, especially when he lured them with bigger bucks they'd ever seen. I was amazed at the calibre of people I saw kow-towing to this "Rajah", addressing him as "Mr. President". Harry had arrived into the stratosphere of society. Or so he thought.

A fool could have told him and his fawning followers that the HCU was a disaster-in-the-making. But greed blinds the greedy to the perils of their folly. Now that "Mr. President" has been evicted from his palace, I don't know that he has learned anything. And I fear the foolish have lost everything.

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General Discussion / Re: Jah Cure for Kojo Funeral in Port of Spain
« on: July 24, 2008, 05:20:31 PM »
it seem to me everybody point in this is a lil bit 'right'.  

JC - yes, poverty is a vicious cycle of desperation and disempowerment.  where there are fewer positive alternatives available.  about a year ago i was at a hairdresser in town. she lives in morvant, has three young girls and works long hours on her feet to build her house and make sure they get what they need to better themselves.   and she gave me this story.  a customer one day is telling her that she is the guardian of a ten year old girl whose mother is in new york.  she was their neighbour or something.  the child comes to her one day and says her uncle has been abusing her.  the customer tells the girls father and the father talks to his brother (girls uncle) and the uncle gives him $10,000 not to report him.  father takes it and tells the guardian.  my hairdresser, who has three girl children of her own says this.  "girl, you could imagine she (the guardian) ent see ah cent ah that money." now people who have, as you say, had a more advantaged upbringing, would more than likely have responded, "how the hell a man could take money while his girl child being battered!"  when did a childs innocence become a thing to be sold?  but it was not the response of either the hairdresser or her customer.  what did that experience teach the 10 year old victim?  

another story - when one month old kimberly boyke was battered to death by her mothers boyfriend, the company i was working with at the time decided to offer to help pay for the baby's funeral.  so i went with another employee to look for the mother in laventille.  we found the 'house',  but she was not there.  i chatted with a neighbour for a while, while her son went to look for her.  the neighbour tells me that basically the mother, who could have been maybe 25, was actually sleeping with about three different men at the time and sometimes at the same time, so she didn't even know who the father was.  the mother eventually came and in talking to her i realized that she was down syndrome or mentally challenged in some way.  so basically she wasn't exactly a consenting adult but was being used by a group of fellahs and it often involved violence towards her as well.   anyway...what it boiled down to in discussions with the grandmother was how much allyuh giving?  there was no sorrow or remorse shown for the fact that her grandchild had met such a gruesome death.  there were other children around.  what was it teaching them about the value of life or how life goes?  how many choices were available for the Kimberly's mother who was not even able to make a mature choice?  did her mother ever consider taking her to the princess elizabeths home for schooling?  did she have the travel money to get her there every day?  where was the community when all this was going on in their backyard?  they knew it was happening.  life cheap.  i arrived there traumatized at the thought of a man beating a baby to death and i left there thinking that the baby was better off dead.  

but what these and other stories like them have shown me over time, is that for many people in this country life is just about survival.  for many there is little room for thought of basic moral ideals or how the choices made affect not just them but everyone around them.  so what you are saying is not garbage.  BUT...

the others right as well.  people have to start taking responsibility for their shit.  this rally and impending funeral gathering of 'celebs' to celebrate this man's life, borders on the surreal.  he was a gangster who i am sure has taken more than one life, whether it was with a gun or with the drugs he dealt.  people right when they say that he might not have held a knife to a man throat, but that a mother buying his crap did not feed her children that night.  

and you are right when you say that it is unlikely that he had the money to bring in the shipment and the big boys getting away unscathed.  and yes they should be caught and thrown behind bars as well. for life...for what they have done to this country and it's people.

the fact is that the longer people continue to cry victimization is the longer they will be victims.  the thinking that a man had no choices so he had to turn to a life of crime, and the glamorizing of gangster culture,  is getting f*&king old now.  and the whole Robin Hood thing is nothing more than to throw some cash around to ensure the silence of his neighbours.  thereby oppressing his entire community.  even if they had 'no choice' initially, you telling me he couldn't, after he made the money, choose something else for himself?  choose to go back to school?  choose to use his money for the betterment of his community by creating legit employment and social centres? ensure the children in his community going to school, that they have a centre to do their homework?  choose not to have 12 children?  if at some point you have the means and still making those choices then you are willing participant in a life of oppression. the concerts and the football were not selfless community initiatives.  they were vehicles for laundering his dirty money.  

so while i can agree with you to an extent - because everybody deserves, at least, the possibility of betterment and a life beyond merely surviving - the fact is these fellahs doing more damage to their own communities with their own brand of oppression, the violence they perpetrate and the young boys they recruit to keep their business going.  they have a large part to play in ensuring the poverty cycle continues.  



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General Discussion / Re: De dot birthday!
« on: July 16, 2008, 03:52:03 PM »
Oh what lovely sentiments,. thanks everyone .
Chatter and Cana stop spreading rumors, i am a good lil lad. None ah allyuh have evidence otherwise...
(wey to send hush money).
thanks to everyone  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
yes ribbit.. trust meh bout the sweat rice...


hmmm dat would explain tings boy  :P
lemme test dis out...

Organic fetch the stick NOW

look lemme go eh before i get lash :devil:

enjoy ya birthday plaits  :beermug:
:rotfl: :rotfl:  cana yuh send de man to fetch he bahaviour bone yes!!!!   :rotfl: :rotfl:


see you and miss cana..... allyuh trying to take advanatge of meh ganging up. wait this seems liek ah dream ah ahd once... um oh rihgt where was i
oh yeah...doh lemme catch both ah allyuh together eh.......i do doh for allyuh :angel:

yuh see what ah mean Weary.  he can't even find the behaviour bone when yuh throw it for him.

Queen doh forget to snap the top eh or is break ankle!

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General Discussion / Re: De dot birthday!
« on: July 16, 2008, 09:53:09 AM »
Oh what lovely sentiments,. thanks everyone .
Chatter and Cana stop spreading rumors, i am a good lil lad. None ah allyuh have evidence otherwise...
(wey to send hush money).
thanks to everyone  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
yes ribbit.. trust meh bout the sweat rice...


hmmm dat would explain tings boy  :P
lemme test dis out...

Organic fetch the stick NOW

look lemme go eh before i get lash :devil:

enjoy ya birthday plaits  :beermug:
:rotfl: :rotfl:  cana yuh send de man to fetch he bahaviour bone yes!!!!   :rotfl: :rotfl:


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Football / Re: Trini football and its pundits
« on: July 16, 2008, 09:48:42 AM »
Fyzoman.....I will oblige. My purpose with this thread has been thoroughly served. Thanks to all for your respopnses....without exception, it has all been appreciated and enjoyed.

ahhhh lawd.  ah warn allyuh.  arright diamondtrim leh we see yuh.  yuh walk away limping - yuh mission accomplished - yuh gone for good or yuh coming back?  mind yuh thesaur-ass dis rounds or yuh go shoot yuhself in the nex foot eh. 

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General Discussion / Re: De dot birthday!
« on: July 15, 2008, 02:41:22 PM »
Behave yuh say Weary?  i sure you know the dot better than that!   :D  he doh have ah behaving bone in he body.

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Football / Re: Trini football and its pundits
« on: July 15, 2008, 11:31:42 AM »
wen allyuh writin consider d dyslexic members of d board nuh

ENT?!!..buh is okay..ah learnin big big 20cent wurd like
discernment
mellifluous
shitindication
splendiferous
modicum
sycohpantic
pussyistic

PLUS ah learn people does wear double breasted felt jacket made from grammar cloth and thongs made from the finest erstwhile silk
Fashion and prose is what does make dis forum unique

Boy I tell you when Jack pay for ah P.R. spin doctor firm, he does get he moneys worth oui

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  i particularly enjoyed shitindication!  ah liking how yuh trow in erstwhile dey Dutty.   :rotfl:

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General Discussion / De dot birthday!
« on: July 15, 2008, 07:51:44 AM »
Oy Hoe!  HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN!   :cheers:   :-*

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Football / Re: Trini football and its pundits
« on: July 15, 2008, 07:41:52 AM »
DT...it seems to me that your modus operandi as yuh jump on the forum is to rile people up. seems you been lurking and decided which button to push as yuh walk through the door.  This thread is pure kicks but for the life of me ah can't figure out why yuh decide to shoot yuhself in the foot yuh walk een on.

That grammatical jacket yuh have on have the veneer of an attention whore.   ::)  Questioning my fellow forumites education level... :rotfl:...play yuh mas.  if yuh really want to strut around in yuh grammatical jacket ah hear dey running short on midnight robbers.

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Football / Re: Maturana continues to mystify
« on: July 10, 2008, 06:02:51 AM »
ah blaming it on the rain   :D 

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Football / Maturana continues to mystify
« on: July 10, 2008, 05:53:54 AM »
Maturana continues to mystify
...From Guerra to Glen
Lasana Liburd

Thursday, July 10th 2008

Francisco Maturana was a winner on the football field again on Tuesday night with a 2-0 triumph against Guyana at Marvin Lee Stadium, Macoya.

It was his sixth win from ten matches since inheriting the post of Trinidad and Tobago head coach. But the performance, against a disinterested Guyanese team-already eliminated from the 2010 World Cup qualifiers-would have done little to convince football stakeholders that he could produce a squad to match Leo Beenhakker's 2006 outfit.

If there are doubts over the Colombian's leadership, his inconsistent philosophy and dodgy scouting are nearing farcical levels.

It took him six games to work out that schoolboys Jamal Gay and Akeem Adams were better off left to develop with the national under-20s. He needed three more matches to spot the potential of versatile W. Connection midfielder Clyde Leon, who made his international debut two years ago but saw Maturana use four different holding players before turning to him.

Leon scored the opener with an audacious long-range effort in the eighth minute, while Keon Daniel got the second after an accomplished individual showing playing behind the lone striker, Cornell Glen.

But it was Glen's charges down the channels-between opposition full back and central defenders-that were a breath of fresh air and the Warriors' most potent weapon on Tuesday night.

Maturana claimed to have full knowledge of the 2006 World Cup players yet it was Glen's first game for the Colombian.

Does Maturana also know that Glen has not played a competitive domestic match since May?

Glen has ditched Pro League outfit Ma Pau and spends his time training with former employers, CLICO San Juan Jabloteh, who he cannot even represent in Reserve matches. He is expected to rejoin Jabloteh when the transfer window opens in August.

Wait until Coventry City discard, Chris Birchall, hears about this.

Perhaps Maturana has finally grasped that Trinidad and Tobago's limited talent pool does not allow for the haphazard replacement of capable players.

If Glen's selection means such a shift in policy, one hopes the Colombian has not left it too late.

But, arguably, the most damning indictment against Maturana's reign thus far never got on the pitch. His name is Ataullah Guerra, but it may well have been Osama Bin Laden judging from the national coach's apparent fear of unleashing the 20-year-old talent.

Maturana, almost from inception, showed a fondness for babysitting duties as he summoned a litter of rookies into his training squad. Yet his treatment of Guerra has been so appalling that perhaps Jabloteh may consider a call to the relevant child protective services.

Economy North East Stars impressive climb up the T&T Pro League standings was rewarded on Tuesday with 45 minutes each to their midfielders Akeil Guevara and Anthony Wolfe-the latter was also a 2006 World Cup squad member.

Striker-cum-midfielder Kerry Noray also got 16 minutes despite his belated start to the 2008 season with bmobile Joe Public. Â

No such luck for the lone representative from the present Pro League leaders and defending champions, Jabloteh.

Guerra has made just two substitute appearances under the present regime, against Grenada and Barbados, for a grand total of 23 minutes.

Worse still, the technical staff is stubbornly silent regarding the slight on the John John resident.

Tall and graceful with a good turn of pace and decent shot, Guerra is the reason why Jabloteh did not lose sleep over releasing gifted but temperamental playmaker and national captain Aurtis Whitley last season.

His appreciable technique aside, Guerra, like most Jabloteh employees, cannot be faulted for desire to retrieve possession when off the ball.

It seems an indication of some potential. Only the head coach appears lukewarm to the idea.

Maturana, who formerly harnessed the likes of Colombian legends Carlos Valderrama and Faustino Asprilla, should know a good player when he sees one. But then his selection policy thus far, under the watch of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF), has fluctuated more than a teenage girl in a shoe store.

From Guerra to Glen, Maturana's philosophy continues to mystify.

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General Discussion / North American Union?
« on: June 27, 2008, 05:20:15 PM »
helluva theory.  what allyuh make ah this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

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General Discussion / Re: **THE OFFICIAL HUNKS THREAD**
« on: June 27, 2008, 06:59:20 AM »
morning! ;D












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