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Football / the forumite prayer pt 2
« on: October 12, 2005, 10:23:32 AM »
Touches, yuh asked for it (doh cry this time though  ;D).......

Let us pray.......

Father once again we are down on our knees.....lift us up

Football is just our excuse.
The good of our nation is the real reason.
Father, today our Warriors have a chance to do for the county what no politician can do in his/her lifetime.
Father Trinidad and Tobago needs to be proud again.
Our economy has weakened
The morals and morale of our government have disappeared
Crime has poisoned our society and taken away many good lives
Racism, ignorance and miseducation has divided us and continues to be a cancer
Through it all however, we have kept our faith and belief
Our support for the Warriors is testament of that belief
It is testament that despite it all, we will not turn our backs on our own.
Father when our warriors take the field today, give their shoulders the strength to carry the weight of our nation........
And remind them that no one comes into our house and pushes us around....no one.
We live our lives 90 minutes at a time.......and for these 90 minutes Father unite us
A team of 11 cannot defeat a nation of 1.2 million.......it's that simple.
Again, if for some reason things don't go our way, we will know that it is your will..........
..............and we will accept it.

Father once again we are down on our knees......lift us up.


This game is the test, and ah callin' allyuh out because y'all are the most outspoken on die-hard-ism....

Trinidad as a football spectating public is reactionary. We clap and jump up only after things happen, or only if things goin' good.....to be too enthusiastic is not cool in Trinidad, but as die hards, I callin' on you all to defy the social conventions and separate yourselves from the waggonists...............

Buyin' yuh ticket early, getting to the game early, knowing all the players & understanding offside are not enough if yuh goin in the stadium and sit down quiet quiet just like the "waggonist" and only jump up when we score........

When I watch de game on TV on Wednesday, I want to hear the crowd chantin' for a change, and I wanna know which one of allyuh die hards on this forum gonna try to make a difference and be the ones to start the chant and keep it goin'.....

Other than the pre-game tassa and moko jumbie Trinidad football lacks atmosphere, and all the talk about waggonist and die-hards, everybody in Trinidad is guilty of such....so which one of allyuh die hards willin' to get up now and say that yuh gonna change that on Wednesday......... or at least try yuh best

....That's my challenge

Lemme hear yuh now.........

Football / 3 things
« on: October 09, 2005, 01:58:44 PM »
1. For the last time, Head to head is the first separating factor for teams on equal points. Guatemala has the advantage over us based on Head to Head. PLEASE EVERYONE DO NOT MENTION OVERALL GOAL DIFFERENCE IN EXAMINING OUR QUALIFYING SCENARIOS....IT'S ANNOYING !!!!

2. Regardless what takes place in the games on Wednesday, leave the conspiracy theories out of your analysis. Please......Yesterday Mexico came out sluggish, and people were quick to talk about them "selling out".....Mexico then proceded to hand Guate a beating that I hope would prevent us here on the forum being ignorant, stereotyping and quick to make excuses out of fear of failure....Destiny is in our own hands now. Let's take full responsibility for what happens in our game on Wednesday....and accept all possible scenarios like respectful adults.

3. Let's try to get an overall positivity goin' on the forum. I see men start to cuss and bicker and hate on the Jamaica -Australia thread......and talking about how good Jamaica is as a test for us yadda yadda.............that kinda talk not feedin' the positivity........Let's try our best to keep it peaceful with RF- our sometimes troublesome step-child, at least till Wednesday.........Now is a good time to unite

Latas talked about the team "vibesin' it up"......Let's vibes it up on the forum too....Anything goes on here and I am a humble poster just like everyone else, so who am I to tell man what to post.

..................but posts that go against those 3 points are not "vibesin it up"............

Football / Czech Rep v Holland
« on: October 08, 2005, 01:05:58 PM »
Half hour in Holland up 1-0

Czech missed a penalty & just had a goal disallowed.....Nice game, good drama...Tune in (Setanta Sports) if you can.

p.s. Czechs are not the same without Nedved.........

Football / professional foul = red card.......should it be ?
« on: October 05, 2005, 09:51:52 AM »
Give me your opinion ? Do you think a professional foul that results in a penalty kick, deserves to penalized by a red card ?

I don't think it should. Hear me out. The thought process is that a professional foul maliciously prevents a direct scoring chance, and should hence be penalized by expulsion of the player that commits it. I think that a penalty kick is as much of a scoring chance as a one-on-one with the keeper. Both have high incidents of conversion, and the chance of being saved or missing........In some cases the professional foul actually improves the team's chance of scoring....A free kick however is way less of a scoring chance than a one-on-one breakaway (in my opinion)

Intentionally blocking a scoring shot with your hand = red card, fine....A professional foul committed before the player gets in the area, only resulting in a free kick= red card, fine........... but a professional foul on a one-on-one resulting in a penalty kick should be penalized by a yellow card in my opinion.

What do you think ?

Football / Juventus vs Inter- heads up !!
« on: October 02, 2005, 01:13:37 PM »
For those of you with GOL TV...If you're not watching Juve vs Inter.......Tune in.........you're missing a good game..

36 mins gone Juve 2 Inter 0

« on: September 03, 2005, 08:17:32 PM »
Thanks to Fire Brand for organizing the big lime today down at Continental....we should make it a habit for closed circuit games..

Thanks to the New York Posse...for being as rowdy as we were.....it was also great to meet some of the forumites down there.......

Finally thanks to our Warriors on the field of play, for making this weekend special....Thanks for the minor heart-attacks that have taken 5 years off my life......it was worth it.......

Cost Rica is next !!! Go Warriors !!!

Football / My prayer for the team (on behalf of the forum)
« on: September 02, 2005, 10:19:15 AM »
With all this hype, I've been consumed with football fever. I felt compelled to leave some inspirational words on the forum:

Let us pray

Father we here on the forum live our lives 90 minutes at a time.
Football is more than just a game for us. This is the pastime that we were born into.
Our hopes, and happiness many times rest on a result of what many consider  "just a game"
But when the crime rate soars the way it does
And when the corruption in politics puts an extra burden on the people
And when we witness first hand, a society that bears the long-lasting scars of slavery, colonialism & oppression
And when the homeless and the hopeless look us in the eye and beg for some help
We all know, that our reaction to the circumstances around us may very well hinge on the state of our disposition and our spirit
Father Trinidad football significantly influences our disposition and spirit,
.............so let them consider it a game if they want........it's not
To some, World Cup qualifying may be about winning trophies, setting records, and making money
But for us, it's about doing something that we've never done before
It's about proving that we can reach levels of excellence against the odds
It's about giving the country something to be proud of for a change
It's about us finally getting that feeling that we deserve to be categorized with the World's best even if just for one moment in time
Father we come from a small country where footballing successes are scarce
But Father this country is the only one we can call our own.
So lift us up today.......
Father take us on to that field tomorrow....Trinis in foreign, and Trinis at home......big or small....loyal or waggonist........this is no time to discriminate
So that after the last note of our National Anthem, we will bombard Guatemala with 1.2 million strong.....
Father let our force be so strong that we can will the ball into the net with mere hope, and by any means necessary

Father warn Guatemala that no one comes into our house and runs us around......

Lastly, Father if for some reason you see it fit that the result doesn't go our way, we will have no choice but to accept your will and continue to live in the real world.......however.......please assure us here on the forum, that regardless of the outcome, our boys will leave everything on that field tomorrow-blood, sweat, tears and more......because anything less, will be a total misrepresentation of the people they ought to represent- their families, friends, and us forumites...........

We ask this in your name, and in the name of football


Football / New York Trinis- game tonight
« on: August 17, 2005, 11:52:06 AM »
Any Trini forumites in New York who can't make it up to connecticut (like myself)...some friends and I are taking in the game at a bar called Dive Bar on 96th and Amsterdam (manhattan)...I've never been there, but I hear it's a decent size bar with a couple good screens.....so if you can, come thru and let's make some noise.

GO WARRIORS !!!!! (feelin' the upset....feelin' it)

Ten of the best...Eurostars
Norman Hubbard
The best players of the last decade: it is a broad brief. There is only one qualification, however; none can have played in the Premiership.

And, almost inevitably, that leads to a focus on Serie A and La Liga. Of our top 10 players, all have played in either Spain or Italy; four in both. All bar one have excelled in major international tournaments. Each deserves to be remembered for decades to come.

Gabriel Batistuta
Forget Diego Maradona and ignore Mario Kempes; Argentina's record goalscorer is Batigol. Besides 56 in 78 internationals, Batistuta's single-minded pursuit of goals and ferocious shot brought him 168 for Fiorentina. In the last decade, there has been no more consistently clinical finisher.

It was only after leaving Florence that Batistuta finally won Serie A, with Roma in 2001. His loyalty cost him medals, but earned him the adoration of the Fiorentina fans. His three World Cups should have brought more than a solitary quarter-final appearance, but provided further proof of Batistuta's wonderful ability to score goals.

Not that everyone was a fan. Daniel Passarella, who also objected to his preference for longer hair, once commented: 'he has square feet and a technique to match.' But how many players have a pitchside life-size bronze statue of them erected during their career?

Edgar Davids
Nicknames are rarely more apt than 'the pitbull'; such is Edgar Davids' competitive zeal that his grandmother must be in permanent danger of being tackled. The concept of becoming more cautious after being booked is an alien one to the Dutch midfielder.

But to some, Davids is best known for the wraparound shades he wears, one of the few ways an immediately identifiable player could have become more prominent. If there is sense of underachievement about many of Ajax's precocious Champions League-winning side, he is the exception.

This last decade, however, began and ended badly, with an ill-fated spell at AC Milan and a turbulent Euro 96, and culminated in a bit-part role at Internazionale. In between, especially in his time at
Juventus, he was explosive and the best central midfielder of his type.

Luis Figo
The change in the balance of power in Spain can be told in the story of one player, Luis Figo. Admittedly, Real Madrid were already European champions before their world record bid of £37.5 million for Barcelona's idol but the Catalan club were established as Spain's most glamorous and exciting team.

It was Johan Cruyff's legacy, but it was soon superceded by the galacticos, Florentino Perez's homage to the rich and famous. Figo, who combined the trickery all wonderful wingers possess with a distinctly perspiring brand of endeavour, fitted right in.

And once regarded as an endangered species, the winger enjoyed a comeback in Euro 2004. The tournament did not provide Figo with a fairytale farewell to his Portugal career, but his influence on wingers worldwide may prove a more lasting contribution.

Paolo Maldini
It says much for Paolo Maldini that the last 10 years are, arguably, only his second best decade as a footballer and yet he can still be regarded as the outstanding defender of the time. But there is much to marvel at in Maldini's magnificent career.

Though denied victory in a World Cup or European Championship, he ended his Italy career with 126 caps. He will retire with a record number of appearances in Serie A and anything up to 200 games in European club competitions.

But statistics only say so much. Maldini should be regarded as the world's greatest ever left back and a very fine central defender. Even at 36, he defends with almost unparalleled elegance and enviable ease, timing tackles to perfection despite a slight loss of pace.

As FIFA's World Player of the Year and the Ballon D'Or prizes have constantly eluded him, recognition of his enduring excellence is due: perhaps a lifetime achievement award?

Pavel Nedved
The most unfortunate, and perhaps most costly, suspension of the last decade came two years ago, denying Pavel Nedved a chance to play for Juventus in the Champions League Final. In Euro 2004, he cemented his reputation as an unlucky footballer by limping off in the semi-final against Greece.

His earliest displays in international football came for a country that no longer exists (Czechoslovakia) and one of his best goals decided a now-defunct competition (the European Cup Winners' Cup) during his Lazio days. Some things about Nedved's career don't appear to add up.

Others do. The shaggy-haired midfielder's constant running and annual improvement, his pivotal role in winning Serie A with first Lazio and then Juventus and his European Footballer of the Year award in 2003. A decade ago, it appeared unlikely, but Pavel Nedved has earned his place among the greats.

There are those who think that it is only right and proper that Rivaldo wears the number five shirt for Olympiakos as he is only half the player he was at his glorious peak. And during his Barcelona days, few players did more to enhance the myth of the number 10 as goalscorer, flair player and inspiration.

And who else - even in this stellar selection - could have clinched a Champions League place with a late overhead kick? It completed a superb hat-trick against Valencia and provided proof of Rivaldo's ability to decide even the biggest games.

He was something of a rarity among players who are not out-and-out strikers, regularly scoring 20 goals a season. And if he appeared unloved in his native Brazil, he still played a full part in taking his country to back-to-back World Cup finals.

Rivaldo's spiritual successor for club and country, the catalyst for Barcelona's revival over the past two seasons and arguably the world's greatest player now, Ronaldinho is the personification of the attacking ethos essential to Brazil and Barcelona.

Defending doesn't matter much. Instead, the gifted and the celebrated are free to indulge themselves in displays of uncommon skill. But, together with Edgar Davids, he inspired Barcelona's rise from mid-table to second in 2004; in the 2002 World Cup, he upstaged supposedly more reliable players.

So there is an end product. There is also, at 25, the possibility that Ronaldinho will go on to dominate the next decade. He will spearhead Brazil's defence of their World Cup next year; he could yet make Barcelona the champions of Europe.

The defining figure of the last two World Cups, Ronaldo's career - and decade - have been interrupted by the knee problems that meant he hardly played between his anonymous performance in Paris in 1998 and the cathartic, eight-goal return in Japan and South Korea four years later.

Brilliant at Barcelona, usually injured at Internazionale and reliable for Real Madrid, he still ranks among the world's leading strikers even if he is yet to recapture the destructive form that earned him the World Player of the Year award in 1996 and 1997. One of the enduring images of the time is of the defenders left trailing in his wake as he single-handedly scythed his way through to goal.

These days, there is less attention given to his goofy look and more to his expanding waistline. He retains a goal-poacher's speed off the mark - the first five yards are obviously in his stomach - but Adriano and Robinho have strong cases to replace him in the Brazil team next summer. But Ronaldo has a history of influencing World Cups...

Andriy Shevchenko
Sheva, the sleekest and smoothest striker in the world today, qualifies for this selection purely for his club form. Ukraine have been bafflingly ineffective in international football, but it proved no impediment to their greatest player when he was named European Footballer of the Year.

He emerged in a Dynamo Kiev side who specialised in overwhelming more fancied sides in the Champions League. But unlike the late technocrat Valery Lobanovsky's other proteges, Shevchenko prospered on leaving the Ukraine.

He was the first foreigner to top-score in his first season in Italy, and retains an uncanny knack of getting 24 goals a season. At AC Milan, he looks every inch Marco van Basten's heir.

Zinedine Zidane
With apologies to the nine men mentioned so far, if anyone can be described as the player of the decade, it is Zinedine Zidane. After an unpromising start - he was rather muted at Euro 96 - he determined the course of the 1998 World Cup final and reached his imperious best in Euro 2000.

Two years later, France's disastrous World Cup campaign was conducted in the shadow of Zidane's absence. Just weeks earlier, his dexterous, brilliant volley earned Real Madrid their ninth European Cup; it is rare that a goal of that calibre wins a game of that stature, and rarer still that it is scored by a great player.

He has won league titles in Italy and Spain and, despite complaints that his goals are too infrequent, holds one prestigious record as the most expensive player ever. Along the way, his monkish demeanour has failed to disguise a vicious side, but it is for the beauty of his touch, technique and vision that he will be remembered. 

Football / perspective
« on: July 12, 2005, 05:32:41 PM »
In the aftermath of a disgraceful performance, I can understand that everyone on the forum is venting their frustrations. Funny enough these are the same people who were about to jump on the Beenie Man bandwagon and prematurely speak about going to Germany for sure yadda yadda after the first 2 qualifiers with the dutchman in charge......People need to put everything in perspective.

1. Beenie Man is a reputable coach. His resume is stacked and I have faith in his competence. He did not turn from a "boss coach" to a poor tactician between taking over and leading us through the Gold Cup. He is still getting used to the team, still experimenting, he is human, will make mistakes and most of all he is not a miracle worker. We have to keep the faith that he will do the right thing when it counts most.

2. A new coach is not going to solve all of our problems. We still have the same crop of players, many of whom are very incapable at the world stage, and sad but true, there are many weaknesses in our squad that cannot be coached or un-coached.

After this Gold Cup, it is clear that not as huge of an imrovement as we expected, has been made, but there has been some improvement, and given the short space of time that Beenie has been in charge, there is still some promise for the upcoming games. Let us not mirror the short sightedness of the TTFA in our comments and opinions. We may very well not go to Germany. Frankly at this point we do not yet deserve to. At the end of the day..............we need to stay positive and most of all keep perspective. If, not you're just wasting time and energy supporting the squad.

Football / attitude change- positive sign
« on: July 07, 2005, 10:33:46 AM »
I watched the TT-Honduras game on TV last night in Chicago, and I won't bother to re-iterate the sentiments of everyone here on the forum....I agree with most of what has been said

...what I must say is that it's refreshing to see that we have finally gotten back to the mentality that we must beat teams in like Honduras. Recently the deplorable standard of Trinidad football allowed us to regress mentally and be satisfied with draws against regional teams such as Honduras. Today we're dissappointed with that result....and that is how I remember it to be years back when our football was on the brink of being globally competitive.

I think that attitude amongst the public, the team and the staff will play a huge part in our potential success in the rest of this CONCACAF championship and more importantly our world cup qualifying campaign.

big up

p.s. Any ideas on a left winger who could make a difference ?

Football / a loss, but still encouraging
« on: June 09, 2005, 06:40:30 PM »
We lost- not a shocker. The bigger surprise was the manner in which we lost. It was the first time that we ever put up such a fight in Mexico. I am still confident about our chances, and I was extremely proud to see that we played such a gutsy game. With a little more luck, we could have come away with a point.

As long as the spirits stay up and we continue to improve, we'll get the points we need to at least make the play off (spot 4).

This is my summary of our strengths/what was encouraging and weaknesses/room for improvement.


1. Heart and conviction
2. Organization in defense
3. more structure coming forward
4. Birchall
5. Edwards
6. Yorke


1. We could use a stronger keeper
2. We need a natural left winger
3. We need a more dominant skilful/creative central middie to complement Birchall
4. We need to tighten up our passing game, to avoid unnecessary give-aways, especially in the middle of the field.
5. depth on the bench (not sure how possible that is)

Overall I was satisfied

Lemme know what you guys think

Football / The Dawg- surgery or not ?
« on: June 05, 2005, 08:58:03 PM »
Firstly, what a relief it was for me to check the live scores on soccernet and see that we finally won a game........sounds like we didn't play too badly either......anyway.................

What you fellas think about the Dog refusing to go under the knife......the experts seem to think that he should have surgery...........based on the Touches report, it sounded like he had a scare against Panama........I fear that in the long run it might hurt our chances.........and his career..... We have built our defense around him so far....if he were to go out at a crucial point in the qualifying round, or even just before/during the world cup, should we qualify........I fear it could be a heartbreaking blow for the Warriors....

At the same time, we're at a point where our hardest qualifying games are upon us, and we've dropped too many crucial points already.......so we need our best guys in each game coming up..........

What y'all think ??

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