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Jokes / Diet
« on: March 06, 2009, 03:27:47 PM »
I reach home to eat and meh wife tell meh that because I on ah diet and have to cut down on meh saturated fat intake, she makin Margarine Chicken, not Butter chicken. :rotfl: :rotfl:
and I cyar have roti, is rice cakes..steeeuuuuuuups ;D

Football / Map of TnT Club Locations
« on: February 28, 2009, 04:24:55 PM »

Jokes / Funny sayings
« on: February 27, 2009, 05:23:33 PM »
which ones allya know

1) TTFF does be late wid everything
they like a "terd of hurtles" ;D
2) aye, you is a "fart smella" oui
3) you put de ting in "back asswards"


Jokes / Embarrassing Medical Exams......
« on: February 27, 2009, 08:20:10 AM »
Embarrassing Medical Exams......

      1. A man comes into the ER and yells, 'My wife's going to have her baby in the cab!' I grabbed my stuff, rushed out to the cab, lifted the lady's dress, and began to take off her underwear. Suddenly, I noticed that there were several cabs -- and I was in the wrong one.
      Submitted by Dr. Mark MacDonald, San Antonio , TX   

      2. At the beginning of my shift, I placed a stethoscope on an elderly and slightly deaf female patient's anterior chest wall. 'Big breaths,' I instructed. 'Yes, they used to be,' replied the patient.
      Submitted by Dr. Richard Byrnes, Seattle , WA

      3. One day I had to be the bearer of bad news when I told a wife that her husband had died of a massive myocardial infarct . Not more than five minutes later, I heard her reporting to the rest of the family that he had died of a 'massive internal fart.'
      Submitted by Dr. Susan Steinberg

      4. During a patient's two week follow-up appointment with his cardiologist, he informed me, his doctor, that he was having trouble with one of his medications. 'Which one?' I asked. 'The patch, the nursetold me to put on a new one every six hours, and now I'm running out of places to put it!' I had him quickly undress, and discovered what I hoped I wouldn't see. Yes, the man had over fifty patches on his body!
      Now, the instructions include removal of old one before putting on a new one.
      Submitted by Dr. Rebecca St. Clair, Norfolk , VA.

      5. While acquainting myself with a new elderly patient, I asked, 'How long have you been bedridden?' After a look of c omplete confusion, she answered...'Why, not for about twenty years -- when my husband was alive.'
      Submitted by Dr. Steven Swanson, Corvallis , OR   

      6. I was caring for a woman and asked, 'So, how's your breakfast this morning?' 'It's very good, except for the Kentucky Jelly I can't seem to get used to the taste,' the patient replied. I then asked to see the jelly, and the woman produced a foil packet labeled 'KY Jelly.'
      Submitted by Dr. Leonard Kransdorf, Detroit , MI

      7. A nurse was on duty in the emergency room when a young woman with purple hair styled into a punk rocker mohawk, sporting a variety of tattoos, and wearing strange clothing, entered. It was quickly determined that the patient had acute appendicitis, so she was scheduled for immediate surgery. When she was completely disrobed on the operating table, the staff noticed that her pubic hair had been dyed green, and above it there was a tattoo that read, 'Keep off the grass.' Once the surgery was completed, the surgeon wrote a short note on the patient's dressing, which said, 'Sorry, had to mow the lawn.'
      Submitted by RN, no name

      8. As a new, young MD doing his residency in OB , I was quite embarrassed when performing female pelvic exams. To cover my embarrassment, I had unconsciously formed a habit of whistling softly.      The middle-aged lady upon whom I was performing this exam suddenly burst
out laughing and further embarrassing me. I looked up from my work and sheepishly said, 'I'm sorry. Was I tickling you?' She replied, 'No doctor, but the song you were whistling was, 'I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Wiener.'
      Doctor wouldn't submit his name (Can't blame him!)

Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Road March 2009
« on: February 24, 2009, 01:43:05 PM »
Allya post allya favorites to take it

when I was livin home I never sat in the stands to watch bands pass me by
I was in  the middle of things from Jouvert ( i used to search out CIBC starlift and push pan) right through till exhaustion hold me
went home an sleep den wake up tuesday early and gorn again

General Discussion / How Harper should handle Obama
« on: February 17, 2009, 06:00:02 PM »
How Harper should handle Obama
As Canadians anticipate the new President's visit to Ottawa, John Ibbitson imagines the advice the PM is getting about their first meeting
From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

February 16, 2009 at 8:27 PM EST

WASHINGTON — As Prime Minister Stephen Harper prepares for this first face-to-face meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama in Ottawa this week, something like this might very well be lying on his desk.


TO: The Prime Minister

FROM: The Privy Council Office

RE: Feb. 19 Meeting with U.S. President

Prime Minister:

We are concerned that your meeting with Mr. Obama may be the most challenging between a Canadian prime minister and an American president in some time. That is because you represent a government that is globalist in outlook and outreach, while Mr. Obama could best be described as a postglobalist politician. This crucial difference in perspective between yourself and the President could influence, and possibly disrupt, your conversations on trade, energy and the environment.

There is no reason to believe, at a personal level, that you and Mr. Obama will not get along. Each of you displays a keen interest in analyzing policy and both of you identify with the western side of your respective countries, reflected in your recognition that North America is shifting from an Atlantic-oriented continent to a Pacific-oriented one.

However, like all prime ministers stretching back to Brian Mulroney, you see Canada as an outward-looking nation in a globalizing world, in which products and capital flow freely across borders and trade becomes ever-more free. This is a world in which Canada, which depends on foreign trade for its very existence, has thrived.

But Mr. Obama believes the excesses of globalism caused the current economic crisis. Wealth dissipated from the American worker to workers overseas. A cabal of Wall Street oligarchs exploited deregulated financial markets to accumulate staggering wealth, before the edifice collapsed through its internal contradictions.

The President seeks to lead Americans into a new, postglobal world. This new world would encompass greater personal and corporate responsibility, governmental oversight of the economy, the creation and preservation of jobs in the manufacturing sector and greater energy independence and environmental protection. These priorities will inform his discussions with you. None of them coincide with Canada's interests.

As you know, the final version of the economic stimulus legislation retained some Buy American provisions that could limit the ability of Canadian firms to bid on contracts generated by the $800-billion package. While the bill was amended to comply with international law, we believe these reassurances are largely false.

Our concern is that Mr. Obama, whose sole focus is on the welfare of the middle-class American worker, will promise you that America will abide by its international obligations while encouraging state governments to exclude foreign competition from contracts. (The U.S. government will argue, falsely, that the one does not contradict the other.) You, as Prime Minister, will need to decide for yourself how hard you wish to press the President on this point. Be advised, however, that Mr. Obama appears to display a marked impatience with those who don't see things his way.

We also note that Homeland Security Director Janet Napolitano ordered an immediate interagency review of security at the Canada-U.S. border. The review was to be completed by today, two days ahead of the President's visit. We need to gauge how concerned the Americans remain about border security. On its face, Ms. Napolitano's decision to order the review is not encouraging.

Mr. Obama has displayed an active interest in improving U.S.-Mexico relations, meeting with President Felipe Calderon before his inauguration. This poses yet another challenge for the Canada-U.S. relationship, for it has become increasingly apparent that including Mexico in North American negotiations of any kind hampers agreement between Canada and the United States, since the two borders are so very different. The “if we did it for you we'd have to do it for Mexico” argument employed by American negotiators is irksome. Canada and the United States are winners in the global lottery of wealth; Mexico, sadly, is not.

In the most diplomatic way possible, we hope you will stress to the new President that future negotiations on trade, the environment, energy and security should be bilateral and not trilateral in nature.

Mr. Obama has proposed a broad, consultative process to examine “upgrading” the environmental and labour provisions of the North American free-trade agreement. We believe that he will seek to include the moribund Security and Prosperity Partnership, which sought but failed to harmonize the regulatory regimes of Canada, the United States and Mexico, within that process.

Our government might wish to be proactive in proposing a continental carbon market, so as to delay its implementation and dilute its impact. As you know, Mr. Obama seeks to harmonize existing state efforts to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by creating a national program that will cap emissions and allow industries that operate above or below their caps to trade credits.

Since Ontario, Quebec, British Columbia and Manitoba are co-operating with state efforts, we could earn credit with the administration by proposing continental reduction targets and a continental market. This would permit Canada and the United States to incorporate adequate safeguards to protect industry and energy produced in both the Ohio Valley and Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Within that context, we are deeply concerned that Mr. Obama's determination to wean the United States off foreign and carbon-unfriendly energy sources will result in reduced U.S. imports from the oil sands. Unlike previous presidents, this one actually appears to mean what he says about energy sovereignty and environmental leadership. Industries and power generators could be penalized for using “dirty” oil that increases greenhouse-gas emissions during the extraction process; oil sands oil would be particularly vulnerable to such measures.

You might wish to raise the oil sands with the President in order to gauge how worried we should be about possible cutbacks in demand. We have always assumed that the American thirst for oil would be limitless. If the President truly is determined, as he seems to be, to slake that thirst through conservation, environmental regulation and new technologies, this is not good news for Canada.

The only thing the new President appears to care about more than greening the earth is protecting the jobs and votes of workers in the industrial Midwest. When talking with Mr. Obama we need to speak the language of the former, while pointing out the implications for the latter, hoping pragmatism trumps principle in the President's deliberations, as it so often does in our own.

We might also propose joint co-operation with Mr. Obama's planned $11-billion upgrade of the United States electricity grid. The upgrades are intended to bring alternative forms of energy onto the grid while reducing the possibility of cascade failures.

Although there are voices in Canada calling for greater east-west integration of the Canadian grid, the fact is, as Environment Minister Jim Prentice has observed, electricity flows north-south between our two countries. The last thing we should want is a cascade failure from antiquated Canadian equipment shutting down their new, improved American grid. Besides, joint co-operation on grid renewal might help Canadian firms to get around Buy American provisions.

Finally, on Afghanistan, the Obama administration says it accepts our decision to end our deployment in 2011. At this meeting, we do not expect an “ask” from the President to extend that deployment. Depending one how the situation evolves [or devolves] over the coming year, an ask may yet come. But that, thankfully, is for another day.

As you know, this is largely a get-acquainted meeting and we expect few concrete new proposals to emerge from your conversation with the President.

Nonetheless, we need to bear in mind that all of these discussions occur within a particular context: a new President with a strong mandate determined to reshape and reregulate financial markets, to protect American workers from international competition and to restore American environmental leadership on the one side, and a Canadian government whose mandate is, shall we say, more tenuous on the other.

We can also not help but note that the American President is extremely popular within Canada. Thousands are expected to come to Parliament Hill to see Mr. Obama, despite the brief nature of his visit. It is not certain that the current Canadian government generates equivalent enthusiasm.

That is, however, a political consideration, and outside the competence of this memorandum.


General Discussion / US calls Venezuelan referendum democratic
« on: February 17, 2009, 05:45:01 PM »
US calls Venezuelan referendum democratic
Tue Feb 17, 12:45 pm ET
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration says the referendum that cleared the way for Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to run for re-election was democratic. It was rare praise for a U.S. antagonist after years of criticism from the Bush administration.

U.S. State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid (DOO gud) noted "troubling reports of intimidation." But he added Tuesday that "for the most part this was a process that was fully consistent with democratic process."

Chavez captured more than 54 percent of the vote, according to preliminary tallies of 94 percent of results. The win allows him to run for a third term.

Asked whether that was a result the United States welcomes, Duguid said the issue "was a matter for the Venezuelan people."

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The Toursim Development Company of Trinidad and Tobago has acquired the services of a marketing company in Florida which is trying to get Matt Lauer from the Today Show to visit Trinidad and Tobago during his annual segment, Where in the World is Matt Lauer?

There is an online list (link below) where you can vote which country he should visit in 2009.Please vote


Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Kangaroo TV
« on: January 30, 2009, 10:31:44 PM »
Has anyone on here used this at a function

Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Cancelled Anthem
« on: January 30, 2009, 10:23:56 PM »
Because two families complained ,the whole school has to suffer ??? ....send them kids to the library nuh

Friday, January 30, 2009

Outrage grows over cancelled anthem
N. B. principal stands firm on O Canada ban

Megan O'Toole,  National Post 
Published: Friday, January 30, 2009

A principal's decision to eliminate the morning tradition of singing O Canada at a tiny New Brunswick school has sparked outrage among parents across the country and renewed a heated debate about the encroachment of political correctness in the classroom.

Principal Erik Millett of Belleisle Elementary School in Springfield, N. B., a small community about 90 kilometres southeast of Fredericton, scrapped the morning ritual in the summer of 2007, citing concerns from several parents. But the issue failed to gain much notice until this week, after a mother complained about the policy to local media.

The debate has since travelled to the upper echelons of government, drawing a sharp rebuke from federal Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson.

Mr. Thompson said publicly he views Mr. Millett's decision as an assault on a proud tradition. For mother Susan Boyd, whose daughter attends Grade 5 at Belleisle, the matter is personal. Her nephew, Private David Greenslade of Saint John, died in Kandahar in April, 2007, when a roadside bomb tore through the lightarmoured vehicle in which he was travelling. She views the national anthem as a fitting way to pay tribute to him and to all Canadian soldiers overseas.

Ms. Boyd recalled her surprise when her daughter, Julia, said she needed to practise the anthem prior to her performance at a Canada Day celebration last year "because she was not sure if she'd remember the words."

That was when Ms. Boyd first learned the traditional morning anthem had been scrapped at Belleisle, a move made without the involvement of the local parent-school support committee.

O Canada is still sung during monthly assemblies, but without the daily morning routine common at schools across the country there will be a significant negative impact on children's sense of patriotism, Ms. Boyd said.

"It will be huge, just huge," she said. "I'm sure that the kindergarten classroom wouldn't be able to recite even the first sentence of the anthem."

For his part, Mr. Millett has stood firm behind his decision, offering a myriad of reasons for nixing the morning anthem -- most notably the effort to accommodate parents who did not want their children taking part. Citing privacy reasons, he has not explained the source of the parents' objections, whether religious or otherwise.

"Is it right or is it fair for children who are not allowed to sing the anthem to be forced to?" Mr. Millett asked in an interview with the Telegraph- Journal newspaper. "Different families have different beliefs.... It's not up to me as a school administrator to subject kids to something their parents don't want them exposed to. I have to protect the minority rights as well as the majority rights."

The change also helped streamline the morning routine, Mr. Millett said, noting the anthem was distracting to students as they attempted to get settled and start their day.

Some critics have called it a case of political correctness being taken to the extreme while others have questioned whether the principal's decision was ideological. Mr. Millett ran as a Green candidate in the last federal election and his profile on the party's Web site indicates he has been "actively involved in the peace movement."

Mr. Millett could not be reached last night for further comment. New Brunswick schools have no legal obligation to play O Canada, but in light of the recent uproar, Education Minister Kelly Lamrock has mused openly on the possibility of making the anthem mandatory.

Ms. Boyd says she is delighted to see so many other people picking up the cause, citing a flurry of supportive phone calls from Calgary to Ontario to Newfoundland. "People are very passionate about it," she said. "People are saying keep on it, make it happen, get our anthem back. The support has been unbelievable."

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General Discussion / Who here go get this
« on: January 30, 2009, 06:18:05 PM »
Read this question, come up with an answer and then scroll

down to the bottom for the result. This is not a trick question. It is as it reads.

No one I know has gotten it right.

 A woman, while at the funeral of her own mother, met a guy whom she did

not know.  She thought this guy was amazing.  She believed him to be her

dream guy so much, that she fell in love with him right there, but never

asked for his number and could not find him. A few days later, she killed

her sister.

Question: What is her motive for killing her sister?
[Give this some thought before you scroll down to see the answer]




 Answer: She was hoping the guy would appear at the funeral again. If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a famous American Psychologist used to test if one has the same mentality as a killer. Many arrested serial killers took part in the test and answered the question correctly.

If you didn't answer the question correctly, good for you.

If you got the answer correct, please let me know so I can take you off my pm list.   :devil:
Peace Be With You

Report: LA cardinal subject of federal probe   
posted 10:38 pm Wed January 28, 2009 - LOS ANGELES from ABC 33/40 News - http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0109/589821.html

Federal prosecutors are investigating Cardinal Roger M. Mahony and other officials of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles over their handling of alleged clergy child molestation cases, according to reports published Wednesday. The Los Angeles Times, citing two unidentified law enforcement persons familiar with the case, reported on its Web site that Mahony is among those being investigated by a federal grand jury to determine if he failed to keep children safe from predatory priests. The Wall Street Journal, citing an unnamed source, said authorities are looking to see if church officials tried to cover up the sexual abuse of minors by priests.

Los Angeles U.S. attorney's spokesman Thom Mrozek said his office has no comment on the reports.

Mahony's attorney, J. Michael Hennigan, told the Times he has been informed that the cardinal is not a target of the inquiry.

In a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press, Hennigan said the archdiocese had received requests from the federal government for information about "a number of individual priests, two of whom are deceased and none of whom are known to be in ministry."

Hennigan said the archdiocese was fully cooperating with the probe, and he criticized the government for leaking the information. He said the archdiocese would press for an internal investigation into the matter.

"The Archdiocese is not aware of any fact or set of facts that would support a responsible federal investigation of the Archdiocese or of Cardinal Roger Mahony," Hennigan's statement said. "While the history of clergy sexual abuse in the Church is regrettable, it served as the foundation for broad reforms in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles."

Donald Steier, an attorney for a number of accused priests, did not return calls.

The Los Angeles archdiocese, the nation's largest, reached a $660 million settlement in July 2007 with more than 500 alleged victims of clergy abuse. The settlement is the largest on record.

At the time, Mahony apologized for what he called a "terrible sin and crime" and said such abuse should never happen again.

"There really is no way to go back and give them that innocence that was taken from them. ... The one thing I wish I could give the victims, I cannot," he said at the time.

The archdiocese has faced criminal investigations at the state level.

In 2003, a number of priests who had been arrested on criminal charges of sexual abuse were released after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a state law that extended the statute of limitations for such cases.

District Attorney Steve Cooley, however, fought to obtain the private personnel files of several accused priests whose crimes still could have fallen within the statute of limitations.

It wasn't immediately clear where that investigation stood. Spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons didn't immediately return a page after business hours Wednesday.

Alleged abuse victims reacted to news of the investigation with joy.

David Clohessy, director of Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, said he was stunned by the report but also gladdened.

"From our perspective, it's crystal clear that parishioners were deceived and defrauded. It's simply common sense," he told the AP by phone. "You can't have hundreds of priests molest thousands of kids and have there not be fraud and deception."

He said he had been swamped with phone calls from alleged abuse victims around the country.

Clohessy said, however, that he was concerned alleged victims would get their hopes up only to be disappointed if the grand jury does not find criminal wrongdoing.

But, he said: "The only thing worse than dashed hopes is no hope at all, and many survivors have felt that for decades."


Associated Press Writer Gillian Flaccus contributed to this report.

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General Discussion / I hope this ent Goat mout
« on: January 28, 2009, 04:36:09 PM »
Sir Richard Branson says cheers to Canada for avoiding recession for so long

By The Canadian Press

TORONTO - Self-made billionaire Sir Richard Branson says cheers to Canada for avoiding a recession for so long - but he also says to buckle up because the road ahead will be rough.

The British founder of the Virgin Group brand of companies says the same economic malaise that's hurt the United States and the United Kingdom will inevitably grow in Canada.

But he believes it won't be quite as bad here, since Canada's banks were more conservative in their business and aren't in turmoil as they are elsewhere in the world.

Branson used an expletive to refer to the current state of banking in the United Kingdom.

The Virgin brand is gaining a stronger foothold in Canada with its line of mobile phone services, radio stations and concerts.

Branson says the company's next foray may be into financial services, though he doesn't know when.

He also said he hasn't paid too much attention to the political uncertainty in Ottawa, and the back-and-forth talk of minorities, coalitions and elections doesn't influence his investments in Canada.

"From a businessman point of view, as long as we're operating in a democratically elected country we're not too bothered by who it is that's running the country - as long as they're basically capable," Branson said in an interview.

"We've never got involved in party politics, we've just done our thing. ... It's not something that makes a big difference from out point of view."

Branson said he wouldn't have asked the federal government for much of anything had he been involved in budget consultations, and is just happy to have won the years-long fight for cellphone number portability in 2007.

"We don't need government to change any (more) rules," he said. "The most important thing was people being able to switch their numbers from one company to another, and that took us a while to win. But when we did, that's made the biggest difference."

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General Discussion / Obama, you MUST see this
« on: January 28, 2009, 12:08:06 PM »
If is one thing you do, could you seriously consider what this pps is saying

Jokes / Today is International Disturbed People's Day!!
« on: January 28, 2009, 09:56:16 AM »
This is for all my spetial friends out there
YOU kno who you ALL are :devil:

Today is International Disturbed People's Day!!
Please send an encouraging message to a disturbed friend... just as I've done. (HA!)
I don't care if you lick windows, take the special bus or occasionally pee on yourself..
You hang in there sunshine, you're friggin' special.
Every sixty seconds you spend angry, upset or mad, is a full minute of happiness you'll never get back.

Today's Message of the Day is:
Life is short! 
Break the rules, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably,
Never regret anything that made you smile.
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we should dance.

General Discussion / Who here agree with this judgement
« on: January 27, 2009, 12:00:19 PM »
Dem Durtty Canadians eh?

Judge won't send Montreal man, 93, to jail for sexually abusing his daughters

MONTREAL — A 93-year-old Montreal man will not go to prison for sexually abusing his daughters when they were children some 50 years ago.

Philippe Hamelin, who is deaf, nearly blind and suffers from a disease similar to Alzheimer's, was sentenced Tuesday to two years less a day to be served in the community. That is what his lawyer was asking for, while the Crown wanted a prison term of between seven and nine years.

Hamelin quietly sobbed as a judge sentenced him following his conviction last year on charges of incest, sexual molestation and assault causing bodily harm against his daughters between 1956 and 1963.

His daughters Marcelle and Michele, now in their 60s, had the publication ban on their identities lifted at their own request last year.

Quebec court Judge Andre Perreault said in his ruling that Hamelin ruined their lives.

Perreault congratulated the women for having the courage and candour to come forward and file a complaint against their father.

"No sentence I impose will be enough to give you back what you've lost," Perreault told the sisters as they listened to his ruling.

Perreault said he had to take into consideration Hamelin's age and health.
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General Discussion / Woman gives birth to octuplets
« on: January 27, 2009, 12:50:18 AM »

Doctors Karen Maples, left with Harold Henry, right and Mandhir Gupta center take questions at a news conference at the Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in Bellflower, Calif. on Monday, Jan. 26, 2009. A mother gave birth to eight babies in the hospital south of Los Angeles, the world's second live-born set of octuplets. The mother, who asked not to be identified, gave birth to six girls and two boys weighing between 1.8 pounds (820 grams) and 3.4 pounds (1.54 kilograms). (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)
Woman gives birth to octuplets in SoCal hospital
By RAQUEL MARIA DILLON – 59 minutes ago

BELLFLOWER, Calif. (AP) — A woman gave birth Monday to eight babies, only the second time in history octuplets have survived more than a few hours, doctors said.

The mother gave birth to six boys and two girls weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces, and 3 pounds, 4 ounces, doctors at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said. The hospital had scheduled a Caesarean section for seven babies, but doctors were surprised when an eighth came out at 10:48 a.m.

"My eyes were wide," Dr. Karen Maples said, explaining her reaction to the last birth.

Doctors said the babies were born nine weeks premature but are in stable condition. Two newborns were placed on ventilators and a third needs oxygen.

Hospital officials would not release any information about the mother, including her name, condition or whether she used fertility drugs. They did, however, say she planned to breast feed all of them.

"She's a very strong woman, so she probably will be able to handle all eight babies," said Dr. Mandhir Gupta, a neo-natologist who cared for the infants.

The mother checked into the hospital in her 23rd week of pregnancy and gave birth seven weeks later. All eight babies will probably remain in the hospital for at least two months and the mother should be released in a week, Maples said.

The world's first live octuplets were born in March 1967 in Mexico City, but all the babies died within 14 hours, according to Encyclopedia Britanica.

The United States' first live octuplets were born in Houston in December 1998. They were three months premature and their weights at birth ranged from 11 ounces to 1 pound, 11 ounces. The tiniest infant died of heart and lung failure a week after being born. The surviving siblings — girls Ebuka, Gorom, Chidi, Chima and Echerem, and their brothers Ikem and Jioke — turned 10 in December.

Their mother and father, Nkem Chukwu and Iyke Louis Udobi, said they are astonished and grateful their children have grown up to be healthy and active. Chukwu is even happier to hear another mother successfully accomplished the same feat.

"It's a blessing, truly a blessing," Chukwu told The Associated Press. "We'll keep praying for them."

Forty-six hospital staff and four delivery rooms were used for the latest octuplets' births. After one baby was born, staff rushed the newborn into another room and waited for the next, the hospital said. But despite weeks of preparation, doctors did not expect the eighth child.

"It is quite easy to miss a baby when you're anticipating seven babies," said Dr. Harold Henry, chief of maternal and fetal medicine at the hospital. "Ultrasound doesn't show you everything."

Doctors said they repeatedly conducted practice sessions on the deliveries and were well prepared. Gupta said the woman was given spinal anesthesia and could hear the babies as they came out.

"When the first baby came out, he was crying and kicking," Gupta said. "That eased the tension in the operating room because the first one came out healthy."

Dr. Richard Paulson, director of the fertility program at the University of Southern California, said octuplets born premature could face serious health risks, including breathing problems and neurological damage. The mother also has an increased risk of hemorrhage, Paulson said.

"It's a risky decision to try to have all eight babies," said Paulson, who had no role in the delivery. "I would not recommend it under any circumstances, but I respect a parent's decision."

For people who use fertility drugs, the vast majority of births — 80 percent — are single babies. Among multiple births, the most common are twins, Paulson said.

Paulson said the latest births likely resulted from the use of fertility drugs and not in vitro fertilization.

"When you hear about someone having octuplets, it's almost always the case that they took fertility medications and not IVF," he said.

It's easier to control the number of births through in vitro fertilization, which involves combining egg and sperm in a lab dish and transferring the embryo into the uterus. Fertility drugs induce or enhance ovulation and couples often opt for selective reduction, in which women carrying multiple fetuses reduce the number of viable fetuses to two.

The Bellflower medical center is about 17 miles southeast of Los Angeles.

Associated Press writers Denise Petski and Alicia Chang in Los Angeles contributed to this report.
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« on: January 26, 2009, 07:49:56 PM »
How to stay safe in the world today.

1.. Avoid riding in automobiles
because they are responsible for
20% of all fatal accidents.

2. Do not stay home because
17% of all accidents occur in the home.

3. Avoid walking on streets or sidewalks
because 14% of all accidents
occur to pedestrians.

4. Avoid traveling by air, rail, or water
because 16% of all accidents involve
these forms of transportation.

5. Of the remaining 33%,
32% of all deaths occur in Hospitals.
So,.. above all else,
avoid hospitals.
.....You will be pleased to learn that only 001%
of all deaths occur in worship services in church,
and these are usually related to previous physical disorders.
Therefore, logic tells us that the safest place for you to be at any given
point in time is at church!

.....And.....Bible study is safe too.
The percentage of deaths
during Bible study is even less.

Attend church,
and read your Bible

Jokes / Colonoscopy
« on: January 26, 2009, 01:16:34 PM »
If you've had one you'll understand
and if you haven't, your time is coming.
This is a serious thing so maybe I should have be put in General?

This is from newshound Dave Barry's colonoscopy journal:

I called my friend Andy Sable, a gastroenterologist, to make an appointment for a colonoscopy. A few days later, in his office, Andy
showed me a color diagram of the colon, a lengthy organ that appears to go all over the place, at one point passing briefly through Minneapolis .

Then Andy explained the  colonoscopy procedure to me in a thorough, reassuring and patient manner.  I nodded thoughtfully, but I
didn't really hear anything he said, because my brain was shrieking, quote, 'HE'S GOING TO STICK A TUBE 17,000 FEET UP YOUR BEHIND!'

I left Andy's office with some written instructions, and a prescription for a product called 'MoviPrep,' which comes in a box large
enough to hold a microwave oven.  I will discuss MoviPrep in detail later; for now suffice it to say that we must never allow it to fall into the hands of America's enemies.

I spent the next several days productively sitting around being nervous. 
Then, on the day before my colonoscopy, I began my preparation.  In accordance with my instructions, I didn't eat any solid
food that day; all I had was chicken broth, which is basically water, only with less flavor. Then, in the evening, I took the moviPrep.

You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then you fill it with lukewarm water. (For those unfamiliar with the
metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons.) Then you have to drink the whole jug. This takes about an hour,  because MoviPrep tastes and here I am being kind - like a mixture of goat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.

The instructions for MoviPrep, clearly written by somebody with a great sense of humor, state that after you drink it, 'a loose, watery
bowel movement may result.' This is kind of like saying that after you jump off your roof, you may experience contact with the ground..

Movi Prep is a nuclear laxative. I don't want to be too graphic, here, but:  Have you ever seen a space-shuttle launch? This is
pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the  future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.

After an action-packed evening, I finally got to sleep. The next morning my wife drove me to the clinic. I was very nervous. Not only
was I worried about the procedure, but I had been experiencing occasional return bouts of MoviPrep spurtage.  I was thinking, 'What if I spurt on Andy?' How do you apologize to a friend for something like that? Flowers would not be enough.

At the clinic I had to sign many forms acknowledging that I understood and totally agreed with whatever the heck the forms said. Then they led me to a room full of other colonoscopy people, where I went inside a little curtained space and took off my clothes and put on one of those hospital garments designed by sadist perverts, the kind that, when you put it on, makes you feel even more naked than when you are actually naked.

Then a nurse named Eddie put a little needle in a vein in my left hand.  Ordinarily I would have fainted, but Eddie was very good, and
I was already lying down. Eddie also told me that some people put vodka in their MoviPrep.  At first I was ticked off that I hadn't thought of this, but then I pondered what would happen if you got yourself too tipsy to make it to the bathroom, so you were staggering around in full Fire Hose Mode. You would have no choice but to burn your house.

When everything was ready, Eddie wheeled me into the procedure room, where Andy was waiting with a nurse and an anesthesiologist. I did not see the 17,000-foot tube, but I knew Andy had it hidden around there somewhere. I was seriously nervous at this point. Andy had me roll over on my left side, and the anesthesiologist began hooking something up to the needle in my hand. There was music playing in the room, and I realized that the song was 'Dancing Queen' by ABBA. I remarked to Andy that, of all the songs that could be playing during this  particular procedure, 'Dancing Queen' had to be the least appropriate.

'You want me to turn it up?' said Andy, from somewhere behind me. 'Ha ha,' I said. And then it was time, the moment I had been dreading for more than a decade..  If you are squeamish, prepare yourself, because I am going to tell you, in explicit detail, exactly what it was like.

I have no idea. Really. I slept through it. One moment, ABBA was yelling 'Dancing Queen, feel the beat of the tambourine,' and the next moment, I was back in the other room, waking up in a very mellow mood.  Andy was looking down at me and asking me how I felt. I felt excellent. I felt even more excellent when Andy told me that It was all over, and that my colon had passed with flying colors. I have never been prouder of an internal organ.

ABOUT THE WRITER:  Dave Barry is a Pulitzer Prize-winning humor columnist for the Miami Herald.
On the subject of Colonoscopies...
Colonoscopies are no joke, but these comments during the exam were quite humorous..... A physician claimed that the following are actual comments made by his patients (predominately male) while he was performing their colonoscopies:

              1. 'Take it easy, Doc. You're boldly going where no man has gone before!'

             2.. 'Find Amelia Earhart yet?'

             3.. 'Can you hear me NOW?'

             4.. 'Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?'
             5.. 'You know, in  Arkansas , we're now legally married.'

             6.. 'Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?'

             7.. 'You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out...'

             8.. 'Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!'

             9.. 'If your hand doesn't fit, you must quit!'

             10. 'Hey Doc, let me know if you find my dignity.'

             11. 'You used to be an executive at Enron, didn't you?'

             12. 'God, now I know why I am not gay.'

              And the best one of all.

             13. 'Could you write a note for my wife saying that my head is not up there?'

Jokes / Lessons in Logic
« on: January 26, 2009, 12:00:28 PM »
I was born intelligent -
education ruined me.
Practice makes perfect.....
But nobody's perfect..... .
so why practice?
If it's true that we are here to help others,
then what exactly are the others here for?
Since light travels faster than sound,
people appear bright until you hear them speak.
How come 'abbreviated' is such a long word?
Money is not everything.
There's Mastercard & Visa.
One should love animals.
They are so tasty.
Behind every successful man, there is a woman
And behind every unsuccessful man, there are two.
Every man should marry.
After all, happiness is not the only thing in
The wise never marry.
and when they marry they become otherwise.
Success is a relative term.
It brings so many relatives.
Never put off the work till tomorrow
what you can put off today.
'Your future depends on your dreams'
So go to sleep
There should be a better way to start a day
Than waking up every morning
'Hard work never killed anybody'
But why take the risk
'Work fascinates me'
I can look at it for hours
God made relatives;
Thank God we can choose our friends.
The more you learn, the more you know,
The more you know, the more you forget
The more you forget, the less you know
So.. why learn.
A bus station is where a bus stops.
A train station is where a train stops.
On my desk, I have a work station....

what more can I say........

Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Égalité for All: Louverture
« on: January 25, 2009, 09:02:12 PM »
This 1 hour show is on PBS Detroit right now

General Discussion / Obama's Call To Service
« on: January 24, 2009, 09:31:56 AM »
Obama's Call To Service (VIDEO)
January 14, 2009 06:11 PM

 Barack Obama released a new television ad this week entitled "Step Forward" to encourage Americans to embrace a new spirit of service. Those interested in the President-Elect's message should head to USAService.org to learn more about the nearly 8,500 projects listed on the Web site.


« on: January 21, 2009, 10:05:06 PM »
Newfoundland declares war on the U.S.A.

 President George Bush was in the Oval Office wondering which country to invade next, when his telephone rang.

 "Hallo, President Bush " a heavily accented voice
 said. "This is Archie,
 up ere at the Harp Seal Pub in Badger's Cove ,
 Newfoundland , Canada ,
 eh? I am callin' to tells ya dat we are officially
 declaring war on ya!"

 "Well Archie," George replied, "This is
 indeed important news !
 How big is your army ?"

 "Right now," said Archie, after a moments
 calculation "there is myself,
 me cousin Harold , me next-door-neighbor Mick, and the
 whole dart team
 from the pub. That makes eight!"

 George paused. "I must tell you Archie that I have one
 million men in my
 army waiting to move on my command."

 "Holy jeez," said Archie. "I'll have ta
 call ya back!"

 Sure enough, the next day, Archie called again. " Mr.
 Bush , the war is
 still on!
 We have managed to acquire some infantry equipment!"

 "And what equipment would that be Archie?" George

 "Well sir, we have two combines, a bulldozer, and
 Harry's farm tractor."

 President Bush sighed. "I must tell you Archie, that I
 have 16,000 tanks
 and 14,000 armored personnel carriers. Also I've
 increased my army to
 one and a half million since we last spoke."

 "Lard t'underin' b'y", said Archie,
 "I'll be getting back to ya."

 Sure enough, Archie rang again the next day..
 "President Bush , the war
 is still on! We have managed to git ourselves airborne! We
 up an'
 modified Harrigan's ultra-light wit a couple of
 shotguns in the cockpit,
 and four b'ys from the Legion have joined us as

 George was silent for a minute then cleared his throat.
 "I must tell you
 Archie that I have 10,000 bombers and 20,000 fighter
 planes. My military
 complex is surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air
 missile sites. And
 since we last spoke, I've increased my army to TWO

 "Jumpins," said Archie, "l'll have ta
 call youse back."

 Sure enough, Archie called again the next day. "
 President Bush ! I am
 sorry to have to tell you dat we're callin' off dis
 'ere war."

 "I'm sorry to hear that" said George .
 "Why the sudden change of heart?"

 Well, sir," said Archie, "we've all sat
 ourselves down and had a long
 chat over a bunch of pints, and come to realize dat
 dere's no way we can
 feed two million prisoners

General Discussion / USA Military Spending
« on: January 21, 2009, 04:39:35 AM »
"U.S. Military Spending vs. The World

U.S. military spending – Dept. of Defense plus nuclear weapons (in $billions) – is equal to the military spending of the next 15 countries combined.  :o :o

These numbers show military expenditures for each country. Some say that U.S. military spending will naturally be higher because it has the highest Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of any country. The United States accounts for 47 percent of the world’s total military spending, however the U.S.’s share of the world's GDP is about 21 percent. Also note that of the top 15 countries shown, at least 12 are considered allies of the U.S. The U.S. outspends Iran and North Korea by a ratio of 72 to one.

Source: Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation, http://old.armscontrolcenter.org/archives/002279.php; our graph uses a more comparable figure of $515 from actual 2006 U.S. military spending "


That is ah heck of alot of Money :o
next time you think of Cheney and Rumsfeld you can thank them

General Discussion / Was there a Bush Pardon ???
« on: January 20, 2009, 03:01:45 PM »
I have not heard if Baby Bush has done this
Check story here
and here

where Laurel and Hardy?

General Discussion / Yes Pecan!!!
« on: January 19, 2009, 01:27:41 AM »
so Ben and Jerry created this Ice Cream for Obama

and people suggested that they created these flavours in memory of Baby Bush

"Weapons of Chocolate Mousse Destruction
Fossil Fuel me Can't get Fueled Again.
FIGJAM - F*ck I'm Good, Just Ask Me
Grammar Cracker S'moron
Joe-o-late-cluster-bomb aka : daddy-is-gonna-be-very-proud-and-getting-richer-and-richer-every-day-with-all-those-wars-going-on-and-flushing-money-in-his-pockets.
shock and almond
The Apricot Act with Illegal Wire Topping
Guantalmond Bay?
Weapon of Fudge Consumption.
Which contains no chocolate whatsoever.
Shat-upon Constitution Fudge
Mission Accomplistachio?
Grape Depression
Abu Grape
Cluster Fudge
The last 8 years of your life drained by lies, and terrorist threats N Cream.
flunky monkey
Chocolate Chimp
I broke the law and am responsible for the deaths of thousands...with nuts.
fool me twice swirl
Apple Decider.
Waterboarding Watermelon
with real bits of lies and economic recession!
I don't know what it will be called but I bet it's expensive and has nothing in the container
Bloody Sundae
Caramel Preemptive Stripe
Marshmallow Misunderestimation
Born Again Berry
Yes! More alliteration.
Ben and Jerry's should announec the flavor as "weapons of Mass Destruction" but never stock any stores with it so nobody can find it anywhere.
Halliburton Berry
choke full o' pretzels
Chocoalition of the Filling
Banana Republic
Smore on Terra
Mint Accomplished
Banana Bailout
Rocky Rove
Banana Rumsfeld
Rice Pudding
guantanamo berry
No Chocolate Chunk Left Behind on Rocky Road.
Nut Cake
New World Orange Sherbet
Mint Chip Accomplished
Burning Rose Bush with Rummy and Dick Surprise - Smells sweet, yet acrid, feels of biblical importance, but makes you drunk and gets you in the end.
war crimes carmel
Whey, Wurst 'N Pops.
EDIT: better if you say it out loud.
Turdblosom Brownie
Crookies and Scream
Blackwater Cheesecake
Mission Pecanplished
Vietnam Vanilla and Strawberry Dodger
Walnuts of Mass Deliciousness
The misunderchocolated meltdown"

and many more here

Jokes / Where is Erkel now?
« on: January 16, 2009, 08:22:28 PM »


Mr PM, doh geh meh ban from SW Online eh ;D

General Discussion / Radiant Heating
« on: January 05, 2009, 05:37:59 PM »
what is the best?
which is cheapest?
Hyrdronic or Electric?

anyone have a radiant system in their place of abode?

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