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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 10, 2011, 02:10:01 PM »All I ask you partner is COME OUT...from "behind de bridge"
It only takes one white man to disprove all that you say. Alan Wells beat Silvio Leonard, Borzov beat all the Americans, even after black men had established dominance in sprinting as far back as the 1930s.
You are the one who ask me to check back my facts on "Youtube", but when I quote facts from my generation i.e. the "library" you start asking why I bringing up old facts - facts are facts, Farah was not the first Brit to win a distance medal, admit when you are wrong, and move on, I have in previous posts.
With your kind of thinking, just when them fellas stop looking for Lemaitre in the final, that's when he ill most likely surprise all of them. It happened with Wells
Never say never, breds - anything can play - ent you wishing TT will make 2014 world cup???.
OK, take win...Farah won Britain's first medals in a men's distance race at the worlds last week.
Im trini, so of course I wish we could make it to brazil. But wishing and the cold hard facts are 2 different things.
And I disagree....one white man winning the olympic final will not disprove my theory. However, if 8 white men are in the final, just like 8 'west africans' has been in the final since 1988, then i will accept that I am wrong.
Niceness!!
But you did say "a (as in any/one) white man aint ever going to win the 100M at the olympics ever again"
And I stand by my prediction. I predict that 'West africans' will finish 1-2-3 in the 100M next year. If it is a level playing field as you suggest, do you care to make a similar prediction that white men will finish 1-2-3, or an ethiopian will win a medal in the 100M?
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 10, 2011, 01:21:55 PM »All I ask you partner is COME OUT...from "behind de bridge"
It only takes one white man to disprove all that you say. Alan Wells beat Silvio Leonard, Borzov beat all the Americans, even after black men had established dominance in sprinting as far back as the 1930s.
You are the one who ask me to check back my facts on "Youtube", but when I quote facts from my generation i.e. the "library" you start asking why I bringing up old facts - facts are facts, Farah was not the first Brit to win a distance medal, admit when you are wrong, and move on, I have in previous posts.
With your kind of thinking, just when them fellas stop looking for Lemaitre in the final, that's when he ill most likely surprise all of them. It happened with Wells
Never say never, breds - anything can play - ent you wishing TT will make 2014 world cup?
OK, take win...Farah won Britain's first medals in a men's distance race at the worlds last week.
Im trini, so of course I wish we could make it to brazil. But wishing and the cold hard facts are 2 different things.
And I disagree....one white man winning the olympic final will not disprove my theory. However, if 8 white men are in the final, just like 8 'west africans' has been in the final since 1988, then i will accept that I am wrong.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 10, 2011, 12:42:16 PM »You clearly did not read my post properly. Did an ethiopian woman win the marathon in 1960? For cultural reasons east african were not on the olympic or world champs scene. Susan Sirma of kenya was the first black african woman to win a medal at the olympic or world champs in 1991.Breds, prior to 1988, there was not widespread competing by east Africans on the international stage. There were the odd brilliant kenyans like kip keino and henry rono and the ethiopian maritus yifter, but athletics was not taken that seriously or as organised (ask any kenyan). In fact there were no kenyan or ethiopian women in the olympics until 1992! have a look on youtube. Now they dominate the distance events. So are you tell me that is a coincidence? In 20 years, 2 nations that never even entered women in distance events, now dominate and it has nothing to do with genetics. Yeah right!Juantorena did win the 4 and 8 at the '76 olympics, but it aint going to happen again. Both events have moved on. Just like a white man aint ever going to win the 100M at the olympics ever again.
Why yuh so, never say never - you never know if the next 100m white champion might be from Trinbago self.
Remember Mike Agostini, Manny Ramjohn, Melville Wongshing (1970 CWG 4x400m silver), Rafer Mohammed (1980 Oly 4x400m finalist)
You are kidding right? When was the last time a non-afro trinidadian was a top athlete on the Track? Back then, it was not understood that black people had a genetic advantage when it comes to flat running speed (Hitler must be turning in his grave lol). I know this much, the winners of all the men track events (ex hurdles- Liu Xiang and Di Green are exceptions) at next year's olympics will be black. From the 100 to the marathon, Its not racist its a fact! Check the olympic and world record books since 1988.
That's your problem, you checking history since 1988, which is basically yesterday.
I notice you start backing by adding the Chinese and British athletes already.
What about Sally Pearson in the 100 hurdles, Van Zyl in the 400m hurdles, the Russian woman in the 800m, Jen Barringer in the 1500m, ehhh??? No Kenyans or African-Americans.
Sad to say, your statement make you sound more like Hitler, even though you trying to disprove him.
Humans are humans - I suppose you need fast twitch muscles to be great in golf and be an NFL QB. No sah, it's all about disprove junk theories and having a passion to succeed.
So go and tell your son or daughter that they don't have the fast twitch brain fibers to be a investment banker or attorney, surgeon or oil executive
How the hell does being a banker or surgeon come in to this? Did I say anything intelligence, desire and ambition?
Well sir, if you are from west african descent, go and tell your son he can run 3 minutes and 29 secs for the 1500 meters if he trains and puts his mind to it.
I am not backing the chinese and the british athlete. The hurdles are technical events and that lessens the advantage (hence why Pearson and van zyl do well and much kudos to them). Do you really think that these athletes would be as dominant in the flat events? If they could, I guarantee they would. Their coaches know this, but apparently you do not.
Britain won their first medals in a men's distance race at the olympics or worlds last week. Who won them? Mo Farah, a somalian, gentically east african. This is britain, where i live. Distance running has a long tradition and is taken very seriously. David Moorcroft actually held the WR for 5K before the east africans came on the scene. Is Farah's gold and silver an eerie coincidence?
I was at the national senior champs in trinidad last month. The winner of the men 1500m won it in 4 min 10 secs. You would not even get a medal in a women international event with that time. What, our middle and long distance runners don't train hard enough? A 15 year old top kenyan runner, will 'jog' 3 mins 50 secs. There is no way, he would have been able to train for a middle distance event at that age, that is 20 secs better that our current champion. If he was not born with that ability, well its rather strange!
Anyway, Hitler theories was based on racism. The aryan race was meant to be superior full stop. In sports (all events), in strength, in intellect. That is crap. I have not said that black people are superior full stop, because, I have said that west africans could never dominate the distance events. Nor have i said that ethipians are the smartest people on the planet.
Anyway, as spike lee said. Peace, 2 fingers!
Do you know an Ethiopian won the Olympic gold medal in the marathon in 1960, way before your Youtube generation??!!
Do you know that Kenyan women have been running distance events at CWG levels wayyyy before 1992??
And I know 4 years ago, based on your conjecture you would have never thought a Chinese man would have won the Olympic mens 110 hurdles that the USA has all but ruled since the modern Olympics. So what you telling me, black people too stupid to win technical events like the hurdles?? (which by the way they have been winning since Jesse Owens days). Sounds like the rhetoric in 1970s Alabama that a black football player can't have the intelligence to be a QB.
Considering Farah and British distance running - where does he train, in East Africa? Why did he with his Ethiopian genes not dominate 2 years ago, maybe because he now has a latin coach in Alberto Salazar? Couldn't be just his genes that cause him to win all of a sudden - hmmmm?
Ever heard of Gordon Pirie (1956 Oly 5000m silver medallist), Jimmy Wilson (1920 Oly 10000m bronze medallist), Sam Ferris (1932 Oly marathon bronze), John Rimmer, Arthur Russell, Percy Hodge, Chris Brasher (1900, 1908, 1920, 1956 Oly gold medallists in the 3000m steeplechase)?? all British, and you say you living there and you don't know this?? - hmmmm?
As you said, Kenyans only got good later on, actually it started in the late 1960s when an Irish priest Brother Colm started training them in Eldoret in the Rift Valley, so it is entirely possible that if Europeans have succeeded and now East Africans have done so, why not West Africans or Caribbean athletes in the distances. If your genes conjecture is right, why is it that South and Central American athletes also excel in distances and actually dominate the distance walking events along with Russians - hmmmm?
Regarding Hitler's claim of supremacy being solely racial in foundation read this: "In Nazi Germany, a so-called mixed marriage of an "Aryan" with an "Untermensch" was forbidden. To maintain the purity of the Germanic master race, eugenics was practiced. In order to eliminate "defective" citizens, the T-4 Euthanasia Program was administered by Karl Brandt to rid the country of the mentally retarded or those born with genetic deficiencies, as well as those deemed to be racially inferior".
Racial inferiority is based on genetics, how can you separate the 2 in an argument - ehhhh?
By purporting that people of African descent are more apt to excel in sprinting because of genes is as racial a statement as Hitler's. If that were so, why the hell half of the planet's fastest men were watching Lemaitre bambsy hole in both the 100m and 200m finals??? Ehhh??? and he only now start to learn about sprinting - hmmm?
The point is (and I assume) my west african descended brother, just as you support a conjecture that only one group on our planet can excel in a given field, you also infer that others cannot, including blacks in fields other than athletics. So just as you said "a white man aint ever going to win the 100M at the olympics ever again", you sound EXACTLY like a client I had in West Texas in 2008 who said "a black man could never be intelligent enough to win and be the President of the United States". So please do tell your kids and your neighbor's kids (whether chinese, indian, syrian, white, latin, african) that they can be anything they aspire to be, and never to let anyone tell them what they can and cannot do.
Lemaitre is one man- the first white man to go under 10 secs. There is bound to be the odd one who will come about every so often. That is a statistical fact. Where were the other white competitors in the sprints? Are you so stupid to believe that my theory suggests that no white man will ever beat a black man in a sprint? I am sure that Lemaitre will kick my ass in a sprint! I do know that Lemaitre will never have the WR-fact.
All your examples was from back in the day. Check the times those guys ran and what they are running now. Those guys would probably not even make the finals today!
I am not inferring anything outside sprinting and distance running, you are. How the hell you can equate people voting for you to be a president with athletics, is beyond my comprehension. George Bush jr was a 2 term president and that certainly had nothing to do with his intelligence! The guy was an idiot.
Anyway, you are entitled to you opinion and me mine. I will return next year at each medal ceremony of London 2012 with a medal table. I already know what it would look like, even if you do not. 'West africans' will dominate the sprints and 'East' africans will dominate the middle and long distances. Everyone else will battle for medals in the hurdles and field events.
Some research for you:
http://charismaallover.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/genetics-cause-black-athletes-to-run-faster-and-do-better-than-white-athletes/
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 10, 2011, 09:36:21 AM »Breds, prior to 1988, there was not widespread competing by east Africans on the international stage. There were the odd brilliant kenyans like kip keino and henry rono and the ethiopian maritus yifter, but athletics was not taken that seriously or as organised (ask any kenyan). In fact there were no kenyan or ethiopian women in the olympics until 1992! have a look on youtube. Now they dominate the distance events. So are you tell me that is a coincidence? In 20 years, 2 nations that never even entered women in distance events, now dominate and it has nothing to do with genetics. Yeah right!Juantorena did win the 4 and 8 at the '76 olympics, but it aint going to happen again. Both events have moved on. Just like a white man aint ever going to win the 100M at the olympics ever again.
Why yuh so, never say never - you never know if the next 100m white champion might be from Trinbago self.
Remember Mike Agostini, Manny Ramjohn, Melville Wongshing (1970 CWG 4x400m silver), Rafer Mohammed (1980 Oly 4x400m finalist)
You are kidding right? When was the last time a non-afro trinidadian was a top athlete on the Track? Back then, it was not understood that black people had a genetic advantage when it comes to flat running speed (Hitler must be turning in his grave lol). I know this much, the winners of all the men track events (ex hurdles- Liu Xiang and Di Green are exceptions) at next year's olympics will be black. From the 100 to the marathon, Its not racist its a fact! Check the olympic and world record books since 1988.
That's your problem, you checking history since 1988, which is basically yesterday.
I notice you start backing by adding the Chinese and British athletes already.
What about Sally Pearson in the 100 hurdles, Van Zyl in the 400m hurdles, the Russian woman in the 800m, Jen Barringer in the 1500m, ehhh??? No Kenyans or African-Americans.
Sad to say, your statement make you sound more like Hitler, even though you trying to disprove him.
Humans are humans - I suppose you need fast twitch muscles to be great in golf and be an NFL QB. No sah, it's all about disprove junk theories and having a passion to succeed.
So go and tell your son or daughter that they don't have the fast twitch brain fibers to be a investment banker or attorney, surgeon or oil executive
How the hell does being a banker or surgeon come in to this? Did I say anything intelligence, desire and ambition?
Well sir, if you are from west african descent, go and tell your son he can run 3 minutes and 29 secs for the 1500 meters if he trains and puts his mind to it.
I am not backing the chinese and the british athlete. The hurdles are technical events and that lessens the advantage (hence why Pearson and van zyl do well and much kudos to them). Do you really think that these athletes would be as dominant in the flat events? If they could, I guarantee they would. Their coaches know this, but apparently you do not.
Britain won their first medals in a men's distance race at the olympics or worlds last week. Who won them? Mo Farah, a somalian, gentically east african. This is britain, where i live. Distance running has a long tradition and is taken very seriously. David Moorcroft actually held the WR for 5K before the east africans came on the scene. Is Farah's gold and silver an eerie coincidence?
I was at the national senior champs in trinidad last month. The winner of the men 1500m won it in 4 min 10 secs. You would not even get a medal in a women international event with that time. What, our middle and long distance runners don't train hard enough? A 15 year old top kenyan runner, will 'jog' 3 mins 50 secs. There is no way, he would have been able to train for a middle distance event at that age, that is 20 secs better that our current champion. If he was not born with that ability, well its rather strange!
Anyway, Hitler theories was based on racism. The aryan race was meant to be superior full stop. In sports (all events), in strength, in intellect. That is crap. I have not said that black people are superior full stop, because, I have said that west africans could never dominate the distance events. Nor have i said that ethipians are the smartest people on the planet.
Anyway, as spike lee said. Peace, 2 fingers!
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 10, 2011, 01:25:54 AM »
Talking about Hitler, just for a laugh (I found it funny)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUS30-RFf0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUS30-RFf0&feature=related
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 10, 2011, 12:03:44 AM »Juantorena did win the 4 and 8 at the '76 olympics, but it aint going to happen again. Both events have moved on. Just like a white man aint ever going to win the 100M at the olympics ever again.
Why yuh so, never say never - you never know if the next 100m white champion might be from Trinbago self.
Remember Mike Agostini, Manny Ramjohn, Melville Wongshing (1970 CWG 4x400m silver), Rafer Mohammed (1980 Oly 4x400m finalist)
You are kidding right? When was the last time a non-afro trinidadian was a top athlete on the Track? Back then, it was not understood that black people had a genetic advantage when it comes to flat running speed (Hitler must be turning in his grave lol). I know this much, the winners of all the men track events (ex hurdles- Liu Xiang and Di Green are exceptions) at next year's olympics will be black. From the 100 to the marathon, Its not racist its a fact! Check the olympic and world record books since 1988.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 12:57:04 PM »having competed in the 80's in Trini, I disagree, about it being a coaching thing. But we will have to agree to disagree.
STMB did explain that the 400m hurdles is a very individual event so once Jehue has the right pool of training partners from 200m to 800m to test his speed, endurance, etc then he should be able to be a world beater while training at home if he chooses.
Also the Jamaicans doing so well training at home back's up STMB’s argument as I don't believe their training facilities is that much superior to what we have in T&T.
Saying all that Jehue has stagnated since his 2009 World’s performance so you might be right about him needed to rebase himself on the outside!
That's my point. He has not improved in the past 2 years. Age is not an issue. The time he ran at 17, we should have seen constant improvement each year until he peaks.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 12:39:45 PM »
Juantorena did win the 4 and 8 at the '76 olympics, but it aint going to happen again. Both events have moved on. Just like a white man aint ever going to win the 100M at the olympics ever again.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 09:34:11 AM »
having competed in the 80's in Trini, I disagree, about it being a coaching thing. But we will have to agree to disagree.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 09:14:36 AM »After beating Merritt again yesterday while doing a personal best at 19 years 7 days old, if he remains healthy he can only get stronger and better. I would love to see him tackle the 800 rather than the 200. I think he has a better chance there than tangling with Bolt at 200. But that Kenyan champion, David Rudisha is a beast. I would pay to see that clash in about two years.
I think we are more likely to see Bolt moving up to 400m and clashing Kirani than Kirani moving up to 800m to clash that Kenyan!
Kirani is good where he is right now concentrating on being the new dominant force in the 400m and possibly pushing to break MJ's WR! Nuff money will come in once he achieves that gold especially if he can do it at the London Olympics next year still as a teenager! That would be enough history right there to outshine Bolt unless Bolt can break both his 100m & 200m WRs once again at the London Olympics!!
Wish Kirani was a Trini, but hoping our Status Quow and Flash Gordon can step up to the plate come London Olympics and shine just as bright.
As things stand, Qouw and Gordon no where near medalling next year. Gordon will not medal, training at home. There I said it! I will eat humble pie if he does!
You might be right!
The Jamaicans are able to do it at home because they have the competition at home but I don't think Jehue has the competition in T&T that he needs even if he has the right coaching! Or maybe he plans to be flying out quite regularly to all the big meets and the NAAA will ensure that!
Going to the meets is not the main problem. I bet he is head and shoulders above his training partner/s. So he wont be pushed in training. Where does he actually train? De savanah?, St. mary's ground? Where does he do hill work? De hollows, de gardens? I am not optimistic with the facilities/resources at his disposal.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 08:52:19 AM »After beating Merritt again yesterday while doing a personal best at 19 years 7 days old, if he remains healthy he can only get stronger and better. I would love to see him tackle the 800 rather than the 200. I think he has a better chance there than tangling with Bolt at 200. But that Kenyan champion, David Rudisha is a beast. I would pay to see that clash in about two years.
I think we are more likely to see Bolt moving up to 400m and clashing Kirani than Kirani moving up to 800m to clash that Kenyan!
Kirani is good where he is right now concentrating on being the new dominant force in the 400m and possibly pushing to break MJ's WR! Nuff money will come in once he achieves that gold especially if he can do it at the London Olympics next year still as a teenager! That would be enough history right there to outshine Bolt unless Bolt can break both his 100m & 200m WRs once again at the London Olympics!!
Wish Kirani was a Trini, but hoping our Status Quow and Flash Gordon can step up to the plate come London Olympics and shine just as bright.
As things stand, Qouw and Gordon no where near medalling next year. Gordon will not medal, training at home. There I said it! I will eat humble pie if he does!
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 08:48:54 AM »You have the man running 800 already? WHAT the ARSE for??? Which other 400 champ in recent history ran 800???
Agreed, the 4 and 8 are not good bedfellows. One's a sprint the other middle distance, so the training is very different. Hence why more people do not do it on the international level.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Comparing Kirani James to Usain Bolt
« on: September 09, 2011, 08:45:21 AM »
No pressure, this guy is a phenomenon. Unless he is injured he will win in London 2012
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Olympic Discussion / Re: T&T Athletes' Realistic Finals & Medal Chances For 2012 London Olympics!!
« on: September 06, 2011, 12:32:50 AM »
Our athletes will have to buck the trend of history to individually make the finals or get medals next year. Apart from AB, our athletes generally do well one year and fail to repeat thereafter.
Wendel Mottley
Hasely Crawford
Darryl Brown
Josanne Lucas
Renny Quow?
Richard Thompson?
Kelly Ann Baptiste?
All got a medal at the world or oylmpic games one year, only to never get another medal at either games thereafter. (I know there was no wc during WM and HC time)
Wendel Mottley
Hasely Crawford
Darryl Brown
Josanne Lucas
Renny Quow?
Richard Thompson?
Kelly Ann Baptiste?
All got a medal at the world or oylmpic games one year, only to never get another medal at either games thereafter. (I know there was no wc during WM and HC time)
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What about Track & Field / Re: Thread for for the 2011 World Championships
« on: September 04, 2011, 09:52:53 AM »My Summary
Overall, we have a lot to look forward to in London. I hope the NAAA surprises us next year with better decision making in the selection of the team and better preparation to support the athletes. I feel we will make up for our losses in London.
Wishful thinking. I'm less optimistic, apart from with the women. I think we are in to a 'golden era' of women sprinting!
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What about Track & Field / Re: Home or away?
« on: September 02, 2011, 12:40:11 AM »I think locally based athletes like Jehue Gordon, should go and train in the US if they want to be be main contenders on the world stage. Our local facilities, calendar, competition, and coaching is simply not up to scratch. When was the last time a locally-based athlete actually medalled at a senior championship?
Counter-argument:
When Ian Morris ran his 44.21 TT record in 1992 he was training at home.
I assume Jehue has a dedicated coach and access to a track and weight training facilities in TT.
Let's also not forget he enjoys nutritious home cooking and having family close. Those are huge physical and mental advantages that many scholarship athletes may/do not have when abroad.
Though he is TT-based he is being sponsored and does not have to run meets solely in TT and the Caribbean, he can travel most anywhere to compete against the best. The only thing that might be missing is a capable training partner.
Ian Morris may have been training at home in 1992, but most of his career before that was in the states. He was already a top runner and had already benefited from the regime in the states.
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What about Track & Field / Home or away?
« on: September 01, 2011, 12:46:39 PM »
I think locally based athletes like Jehue Gordon, should go and train in the US if they want to be be main contenders on the world stage. Our local facilities, calendar, competition, and coaching is simply not up to scratch. When was the last time a locally-based athlete actually medalled at a senior championship?
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What about Track & Field / Re: Trivia
« on: September 01, 2011, 12:38:53 PM »No worries about this gap in T&F.
What purpose does it serve to pay attention to Jamaica?
This mentality of looking over the fence in your neighbour's yard serves no purpose; get your own house in order. You feel Grenada minding we that's why James grab gold?
That's right ! Get your own house in order before start making comparisons.
I agree with that. I remember the 2nd Carifta game being held in the QPO in 1973. I notice that the Jamaican had more athletes particpanting in each event. In some events, the results were 1,2 or 1,2,3 or 1,3 or 2,3. Even host, TT could not replicate that feat even though we had some good performance(Horace Tuitt) and came second in the medal count. They win 55 to 60% of all the medals in almost all the games. So now, since 72 we eh learn we does do bullocks when it comes to TF. We already know what the JA has. Since Helsinki they have produced. What is there to learn again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARIFTA_Games
What there is to learn is why we cannot do better. What does JA, Cuba and the bahamas do that we do not. If we accepting that we cannot beat with the best, then we might as well stay home! I refuse to accept the JA has some god given right to be a better T&F nation than us.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Trivia
« on: August 31, 2011, 02:37:55 PM »Yu must be mad to compare TnT to jamaica! Lol so you made a trivia about TnT to discuss comparisons between Jamaics? LOL...TnT obvious poor showing this year is the failure of top athletes to make finals..and if you can't make finals forget about medalling.
No the trivia was not to do a comparison, but the obvious gap is startling, for reasons we have already discussed.
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What about Track & Field / Re: Trivia
« on: August 31, 2011, 02:18:17 PM »
Ok, I actually forgot about Quow's bronze, so thought it was never done. Still, to only have done this once, highlights the chasm between us and Jamaica.
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What about Track & Field / Trivia
« on: August 31, 2011, 01:47:18 PM »
Has 2 different T&T athletes ever won individual medals at the same world or olympic games? If so, who were they and what was the year?
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What about Track & Field / Re: They need an overhaul of the T&F Program in T&T
« on: August 29, 2011, 12:13:17 AM »
Any top athlete coming out of T&T will be inspite of not because of the system. Fact! Unless things are changed from the primary school level, it will remain that way.
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What about Track & Field / Re: They need an overhaul of the T&F Program in T&T
« on: August 28, 2011, 04:01:54 PM »
Trinbago as small as it is needs to garner all of its sporting resources wherever it lies, we have no time for that Darwinism and fast-twitch discussion crap, as all it does is feed doubt in the minds of young boys and girls trying to pursue sports they like.
You could live in denial if you want, you are free to do that. The history books speak for themselves and I know from experience. Come back when you find an 'east african' running sub-10 secs for the 100M and a 'west african' running 3.29 for the 1500M.
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What about Track & Field / Re: They need an overhaul of the T&F Program in T&T
« on: August 28, 2011, 03:55:08 PM »As a former athlete in T&T, jamaica may have less financial resources, but they have far more people taking part in athletics than T&T, so their 'pool size' is far greater (remember half of T&T's ethnic population will never take athletics seriously). Have a look on youtube at jamaica's secondary schools championships and you'll see the competitiveness and massive crowds. That's where the hunger you speak of stems from. T&T interest in athletics is nowhere that, so we can't expect the same success and outcome.
Now that you mention T&T ethnic population as to taking track seriously my next question to this forum..is why are so focused on just Track, what about field events?.. I heard a man say because of our ethnic diversity will will always produce less top class sprinters...well what about long distance runners, what about pole vaulters, what about discuss throwers ?..why we spend most of ur focus on just developing track stars ?.
We probably would have more potential to medal at these games if over the years we had a wider perspective on what our diverse population can give us on the entire sport instead of just on element of the sport
Forget medalling at major championships in long distance races. You will never find a top long distance runner of west african descent (black caribbean/american). For the same reason you will never find a top kenyan or ethiopian sprinter. Genetically black caribbean athletes could never produce the time times that east africans produce in order to medal at major championships. Check the record books and you will see.
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What about Track & Field / Re: They need an overhaul of the T&F Program in T&T
« on: August 28, 2011, 03:48:10 PM »As a former athlete in T&T, jamaica may have less financial resources, but they have far more people taking part in athletics than T&T, so their 'pool size' is far greater (remember half of T&T's ethnic population will never take athletics seriously). Have a look on youtube at jamaica's secondary schools championships and you'll see the competitiveness and massive crowds. That's where the hunger you speak of stems from. T&T interest in athletics is nowhere that, so we can't expect the same success and outcome.
no offense but that is garbage you wrote there, vb can outline how many boxers of indo-trini origin we have had over the years, also swimmers, field hockey and many other sports.
we do not have a club that is giving the entire population any hope of having track as a career.
our national association is a mess and is highly incompetent.
the talent is in trinidad, i have no doubt about it, but we do not have a system and the right people at the helm to grow it successfully and reap the rewards.
as STMB stated, what makes you think a milka singh isn't in TT that basically is hiding because he or she doesn't see an opportunity in T&F because it is so poorly run.
Spoken like a real non-athlete. You are the one talking garbage. Athletics refers to T&F. I was not speaking about boxers, swimmers, cyclists or golfers. Read the subject again 'They need an overhaul of the T&F Program in T&T'!
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What about Track & Field / Re: They need an overhaul of the T&F Program in T&T
« on: August 28, 2011, 02:18:45 PM »
As a former athlete in T&T, jamaica may have less financial resources, but they have far more people taking part in athletics than T&T, so their 'pool size' is far greater (remember half of T&T's ethnic population will never take athletics seriously). Have a look on youtube at jamaica's secondary schools championships and you'll see the competitiveness and massive crowds. That's where the hunger you speak of stems from. T&T interest in athletics is nowhere that, so we can't expect the same success and outcome.
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What about Track & Field / Re: WTF
« on: August 28, 2011, 11:53:36 AM »
Its not just RT's 9.85 was a fluke (I actually saw it live), but KB's 9.93 was also a fluke. KB is not capable of producing that time legally at the moment. He does not have the natural ability and his technique is too flawed.
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What about Track & Field / Re: London- Diamond League( August 5th and 6th)
« on: August 07, 2011, 12:30:32 AM »
A better start from KAB and its gold in Daegu!
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Football / Re: Strike Squad Thread (Videos Included).
« on: August 06, 2011, 06:16:45 AM »
Good job Flex. Gally was de greatest!