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SAM,'
I feel what you are saying but you have to make more sense to your point. There is "no national Agent". A player could fly to England and hire an agent if they think they are that good. Mike Berry is just an agent for some T&T players. The players are not good enough to play in some of those leagues. One of my teamates who is from Sweden is very good and can easily make Joe Public team if he were to play in Trinidad, and said that he could only play in the Swedish 4th division. That is where Kevon Neaves played.
So the leagues that you are calling are very good. Ask Darryl Roberts about Turkish league. The speed of play is very fast and it takes discipline to play there. The kind that Guerra and Lester Peltier does not have. If you were to leave Trinidad and watch a training session of some other pro teams, you would see that their reserve teams and youth teams have players just as good and in some cases better.
Trinidad and Tobago needs to develop a better youth system and has to be more organized before players can play abroad. In Latapy, Yorke, Stern John times it was less competitive as it is today. Kenwyne Jones is an exception because of his size and speed. But in terms of skill, there are many Kerry Baptiste, Clyde Leons, and Attulah Guerras in every league, why would a coach buy a player when they are in the youth system already?
Well, it dont have to be in the top flight in those countries, it could be in a lower division. But Sam have a point here. Look Wrexham in Wales and they have helped our players develop (Ince, Carlos, Hector and Lawrence).
Why would our players fly to a foreign country and hire a man they do not know just because he is an agent. This is why Berry was able to expose our players because they didn't know better.
I am sure what Sam is trying to say is, the players need someone in a position to help them and help them genuinely.
T&T players would also cost a foreign team less that it would cost they own to contract I'm sure.
PS: Kenwyne Jones have speed......
Everybody always talking about this and that, but one thing I feel we need to focus on is to get a good players agent for our players base in T&T, there is to many wasted talents. They need some sort of guidance.
Our players need a good agent so they can make good decisions and a long term one and not only want to be the next Dwight Yorke and yet liming all day. Our players just want a big pay day because they feel they have a little talent.....
Dion La Founda have nuff contacts, maybe him ?? I don't know him to well doh.
I woulda say Mike Berry, but he is not base in T&T and he is known for robing our players.
Players like.....
Marvin Phillip, Daneil Cyrus, Kerry Baptiste, Matthew Bartholomew, Hughton Hector, Clyde Leon, Sheldon Bateau, Joevin Jones, Robert Primus, Glenroy Samuel, Trent Lougheed, Akil Clarke, Jevaughn Vance, Theon James, Wesley John, Xavion Navarro, Chad Appoo, Carlyle Mitchell, Nigel Daniel, Jason Marcano, Lester Peltier, Ataullah Guerra, Devon Jorsling, Jason Devenish, Jean-Luc Rochford, Shahdon Winchester, Jerrel Britto, Reshad Wint, Akeem Adams and Leston Paul ....... deserve to be in some foreign league even if its a league in Belgium, Mexico, Scotland, Sweden or Turkey.
Seem like Guerra lost his starting spot....
KND2,
We live in a world where things dont just happen by magic,TT have a professional football league and no matter what you say its doing some good,those boys that are playing,are trying to get out of a society riddled with all kinds of sins,you should know better.Even if those boys are playing in front of 50 people at least they not roving about the country with guns and drugs,in case you forget TT has given nuff footballers to the rest of the world and a comfortable life.Please think before you get on a keyboard to write such rubbish.No respect to you sah.
Abu never impress in a single game for us.I think his problem is mental.
His problem is talent....
no mercy
biting veryyyyy hard dey
Aye me ah trying to mamaguile de man and big him up...
Is time we stop swelling up these guys heads... Swans MGMT was not fooling de fella... he is not cut out for this division far-less international ball...
Every time I see the man play, Daft Punk's "Robot Rock" comes to mind... he is robotic, gets turned easily, slow, no intimidation for he size, he cayr pass properly... may be if he wore a koffi cap he would be more feared.
Is time we stop this nonsense, we football look bleak, ah doh want man to say he is the best we have to offer this position. We as fans also need to stop bigging man up eg "jess because he went to St Marys (not him per say) doh make him an automatic selection for our team... He may be your high school alumni but we do not need SSFL star boys... ManU hold camp dey take anyone??? We need an Arsenal back line that could carry us 2-3 campaigns in the future.
What we need to do is capitalize on the fact that our biggest names in football is retired and build a youth training system on that. We have Hislop, Latas, Lawrence and Yorke... and Lara could give them pep talks on how to play on and off the field.
but Jack and Family here to stay... and Gary hunt is a c...
sense futures..
my perspective -
KJ is a very good striker in his mould, but will probably never be a prolific scorer for TnT until a coach comes in and takes a decision to build the team, the structure and the tactics around him.. And for that to happen it would mean abandoning everything we cherish as inherantly "trinidad football".
In a sense people have been spoiled by Stern John's goalscoring prowess (yes i said it) and expect KJ to come right in and do the same.. Stern is a unique type of striker in that he could make goals out of nothing. Kenwyne is an entirely different type of striker and I would label him a "tandem" striker in that given the right service and approach, he can batter opposing defenders to make opportunities for himself and the other striker in his partnership.
For KJ to be truly effective in the T&T setup, he needs consistent aerial service from the wings and Trinidad has not had a winger that can cross the ball well consistently for as long as I've been watching football. Thats just not the way we play the game. I mean how often you go in the savannah or watch a team training and you see a session focused on wingers running to the byline and crossing the ball for strikers to finish. The conversion rate in those situations are usually pressure on the eyes.
As for the EPL.. fairness is comparing KJ to John Carew, Emile Heskey, Peter Crouch and Emmanuel Adebayor, strikers who operate in a similar role, not to Darren Bent. People underestimate just how much Bent profits from his partnership with Kenwyne, he is flourishing because KJ occupies alot of the attention from opposing defenders leaving him space to exploit. Look at the goalscoring of those names i mentioned above and the people that play around them and you will see quite a similar trend.
That fact is also a big part of the reason why Bent couldnt cut it at Spurs when ironically he was playing in the role KJ is playing in right now. He himself said that they had him down as a "target" striker and that was killing his game because he plays "off the shoulder".. Go figure...
Good post
We may want to believe that players who have went overseas would simply dominate in the pro league because its of a lower standard but that is not a guarantee. If it were such despite tallest age Jabloteh would have been a much better defensive unit with him in itLeague 2 and PFL ain't that far apart in standard.
Yeah. England or bust. No other leagues in this world.
What next scotty "dancing with the stars?" i think its time to hang up the boots and look for a regular day job if not coaching bow out gracefully but Isreal , Is you for real boy, dollars must be real tall
With that said, there is nothing like eating, sleeping and breathing football in a pro environment.
Does the tnt pro league offer that tho?
I feel like our league is "pro" by name and by the fact that you get paid.
But I don't get the idea that the environment is very "professional" (at least not at all the clubs).
I see the majority voted Pro League.
Guys, seeing that many here feel that the US colleges and Universities always hamper our players to some extent, do you feel that after the SSFL they should just go pro and play in the T&T league with the hope of getting a better pro contract aboard and a chance to get pick for the T&T teams.
Or just go to the US on a scholarship with the intentions of a education incase football don't work out. In other words telling yourself you are not good enough in football and need a back up. Which is always good, but you must be confident in yourself.
Remember, we must be concern if the US school system is really pushing our kids to actually learn something educationally or are they just using them to play football and then dash them away.
It's hard to believe that maybe 4% of our players who play in the US schools system actually make it through football....
Look Dezi Lara playing for T&TEC now. De rest of men just disappear.
Couple thoughts in response to your post
Scouting- Easier for Capello to scout- all his players are based in Europe (mostly in England)...Not that practical for Latapy to scout players in Belgium, Turkey, and different colleges around the U.S. Not making excuses for Latas, and not saying you don't have a point...but to compare the difference between Capello scouting Carlton Cole and Latas doing the same for Darryl Roberts in Turkey....not a realistic comparison... First question: What's the scouting budget within which Latapy is operating?
Tackling- I don't think this forum judges a defender by the quality of his blade. Primus looked to be the most promising defender, and that was a unanimous opinion on this board..haven't seen him go to ground in a game yet. I'd say Trinis rate a defender when he has a good handle of the ball, and is composed in his distribution. That said I'm not sure if individually our defenders simply don't read the game, but as a unit they are not compact and they don't move like a unit, and often are not supported by the defensive efforts of the midfielders...that often leads to imbalance, loss of defensive shape and ultimately desperate, last ditch defending.
Fitness- Fitness breeds fitness. i.e the fitter you are, the harder you work, and the fitter you will get.... Running in the off season will only get you to a certain level. Game fitness comes from playing games, and playing them correctly. Diet/nutrition, lifestyle/habits and weight training go a long way as well. In addition to putting in the miles/drills in the off-season our players lack fitness because the level of intensity of our games isn't there, and I suspect the diet/nutrition aspect is somewhat taken forgranted...
speed of the game- fitness, intensity (mental and physical), discipline, focus and practice....it must be ingrained but it doesn't seem to be done so much in our local game...I still think that the perception in T&T of what makes a good player is not yet in line with the reality of the modern game worldwide...we place too much emphasis on rare flashes of individual brilliance and finesse, and ignore the qualities that are not as obvious to the eye... (Trinis rather watch/play a stroll in the park fete match pace game with nice touches and finesse, than an rapid, scrappy, intense battling encounter...even if the latter is more effective)..... I wonder if our climate has a little to do with it as well...
