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Football / Re: Where and what happened to David Nahkid?
« on: April 29, 2008, 07:45:19 AM »
For an ugly guy, he has some nice pictures on his Website.
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Football / Re: 1966 World Cup team defender De La Bastide passes on.
« on: April 03, 2008, 05:59:42 AM »
I am glad to see Alvin write this article about the “Tank,” because I find he went too quietly. The “Tank” was a major football icon, and I hope that something is done for his legacy to live on. Just as T&T youths today worship Latapy, Yorke, and Shaka, the “Tank” was idolized by youngsters of the time. He was a true T&T hero. He was very exciting to watch. He was about 5’5” and it seemed like he ran about 100 miles per hour.
It was fire and brimstone when he tackled someone. In one of the verses in his 2005 calypso, “I in Town Too Long,” Chalkdust sang about the “Tank” and “Jap” Brown clashing in the Savannah – that meant Maple versus Malvern. This game generated so much argument between the fans. That was the golden era of club football in Trinidad. The Grand Stand used to be packed and the crowd was thick around the field. I can still see “Geese” (the old guy) putting the scores up on the scoreboard.
“Tank,” it was an honor to know you.
Trevor
It was fire and brimstone when he tackled someone. In one of the verses in his 2005 calypso, “I in Town Too Long,” Chalkdust sang about the “Tank” and “Jap” Brown clashing in the Savannah – that meant Maple versus Malvern. This game generated so much argument between the fans. That was the golden era of club football in Trinidad. The Grand Stand used to be packed and the crowd was thick around the field. I can still see “Geese” (the old guy) putting the scores up on the scoreboard.
“Tank,” it was an honor to know you.
Trevor
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Football / Tyrone “The Tank” DeLaBastide Passes
« on: March 24, 2008, 06:53:15 AM »
I heard yesterday that the great Tyrone “The Tank” DeLaBastide died in Canada a couple days ago. I understand he was ailing with cancer for awhile.
Trevor
Trevor
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Football / Re: Why do we HATE The Corneals ???
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:51:53 AM »
Big Magician,
This is a very intriguing topic you raised. In my opinion, this is one of the best threads I have seen in a longtime – it is thought provoking and there are some solid pro-and-con arguments. For the many who say you dislike Alvin Corneal, I UNDERSTAND. Why does the name, “Corneal” trigger such strong emotions?
As many may know, I played under Alvin and played with him. Even on Alvin’s teams, deep feelings were expressed about him, but somehow people were still magnetized to him. You may love him or you may dislike him, but you cannot deny him. It is amazing how much of the public cannot stand him, but at the same time, he has remained in the T&T sporting forefront for over 40 years.
Regarding Anton, I believe he has not been fairly judged because of his father. Yes, his dad pushed him. Which father would not push his son, especially when he has talent? Furthermore, he has obtained his qualifications. People keep talking about Anton like he is a little boy; he is a big man - well in his 40s. I have known him a longtime, I must say he is a wonderful person. I have seen him conduct sessions and I have had numerous discussions with him on the game, and I have been quite impressed. He also has a great temperament as a coach.
Let me return to Alvin. I will describe him as a “survivor,” but absolutely not a “puppet.” I have always been amazed by his survival skills. If you really want to get a reality check about your soccer ability, ask Alvin, but if you wish to get a nice answer about it, go and ask Paula Abdul. The man is not easy, but I tell you, he has had such a large impact on the T&T football game and careers of others. I will be the first to say if it were not for Alvin Corneal and Lincoln Phillips, I would not be the person I am today.
I will end with two questions: (1) Who are the qualified T&T football coaches? (2) Which T&T nationals do you respect and trust to put in leadership sporting positions?
Love to all,
Trevor Leiba
This is a very intriguing topic you raised. In my opinion, this is one of the best threads I have seen in a longtime – it is thought provoking and there are some solid pro-and-con arguments. For the many who say you dislike Alvin Corneal, I UNDERSTAND. Why does the name, “Corneal” trigger such strong emotions?
As many may know, I played under Alvin and played with him. Even on Alvin’s teams, deep feelings were expressed about him, but somehow people were still magnetized to him. You may love him or you may dislike him, but you cannot deny him. It is amazing how much of the public cannot stand him, but at the same time, he has remained in the T&T sporting forefront for over 40 years.
Regarding Anton, I believe he has not been fairly judged because of his father. Yes, his dad pushed him. Which father would not push his son, especially when he has talent? Furthermore, he has obtained his qualifications. People keep talking about Anton like he is a little boy; he is a big man - well in his 40s. I have known him a longtime, I must say he is a wonderful person. I have seen him conduct sessions and I have had numerous discussions with him on the game, and I have been quite impressed. He also has a great temperament as a coach.
Let me return to Alvin. I will describe him as a “survivor,” but absolutely not a “puppet.” I have always been amazed by his survival skills. If you really want to get a reality check about your soccer ability, ask Alvin, but if you wish to get a nice answer about it, go and ask Paula Abdul. The man is not easy, but I tell you, he has had such a large impact on the T&T football game and careers of others. I will be the first to say if it were not for Alvin Corneal and Lincoln Phillips, I would not be the person I am today.
I will end with two questions: (1) Who are the qualified T&T football coaches? (2) Which T&T nationals do you respect and trust to put in leadership sporting positions?
Love to all,
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Nastiest players to ever kick ah ball!
« on: February 29, 2008, 10:53:34 AM »
The defensive units of the T&T Army teams from the 1970s were brutal. Players like Philbert Prince, Winston Phillips, Charlie Spooner, and Kelman (? – not sure of his name). They took no prisoners.
Also, Peter “White Iron” Halfide from Maple was not easy too. Before the wearing of shin pads became compulsory, Alvin Corneal had a rule that all players had to wear shin pads. Peter was the only one whom Alvin exempted from this rule.
Trevor
Also, Peter “White Iron” Halfide from Maple was not easy too. Before the wearing of shin pads became compulsory, Alvin Corneal had a rule that all players had to wear shin pads. Peter was the only one whom Alvin exempted from this rule.
Trevor
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Football / Re: Nastiest players to ever kick ah ball!
« on: February 28, 2008, 07:34:24 AM »
When I think of nasty players in T&T, three players come to mind – Rugged Tom, Arnim David, and Charlie Spooner. I will go with Charlie Spooner of the three.
Ask Mori Diane of Howard University and Cyrus of Paragon about Charlie. After Charlie hit Cyrus with a right hand, according to Tansley Thompson, Cyrus ran into the dressing room, announced that he stopped playing football, and immediately turned to religion. Coop’s, Ah lie?
However, I will give my all-time nastiest player award to a Jamaican player called, “Thinker.” Back in the 1980s, we had a Caribbean-African league in the Washington, DC, area, and he played for a team called, Roots.
At least Charlie Spooner used to hit yuh a right hand in the action of play, but Thinker would hit yuh when the ball was not even around. The game would be going on one side of the field, and you would see one of your players lying down on the other side. David Nakhid and Barry Henderson could tell yuh about their experiences with Thinker.
Trevor
Ask Mori Diane of Howard University and Cyrus of Paragon about Charlie. After Charlie hit Cyrus with a right hand, according to Tansley Thompson, Cyrus ran into the dressing room, announced that he stopped playing football, and immediately turned to religion. Coop’s, Ah lie?
However, I will give my all-time nastiest player award to a Jamaican player called, “Thinker.” Back in the 1980s, we had a Caribbean-African league in the Washington, DC, area, and he played for a team called, Roots.
At least Charlie Spooner used to hit yuh a right hand in the action of play, but Thinker would hit yuh when the ball was not even around. The game would be going on one side of the field, and you would see one of your players lying down on the other side. David Nakhid and Barry Henderson could tell yuh about their experiences with Thinker.
Trevor
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Football / Re: Luciano Woodley Passes Away
« on: February 13, 2008, 10:44:48 AM »
I just returned from Trinidad to attend Luciano’s funeral. Have you ever heard someone say a funeral was nice? Well, it was a wonderful service. I never heard so much laughter at a funeral. St. Theresa’s Church was packed.
There were many old CIC footballers there – Alvin Henderson, Hannibal Najjar, Keston Nancoo, Keith Look Loy, Ken and Wally Butcher, Frankie Stone, Neil Williams, Ian “Charla” Dore, Brian Gent, Murchison Pierre, Wayne Dobson, Gary Almondoz, etc.
The funeral also was attended by numerous past footballers such as Lincoln Phillips, Alvin Corneal, Sedley Joseph, “Gally” Cummings, Wayne Lewis, Ron LaForest, Tony “Chucker” Griffith, Tansley Thompson, Bobby Banfield, Winfield St. Hill, Lenny Alphonso, Desmond “Baby” Headley, Brian Rigsby, etc.
See link – (press control and click)
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article?id=161275050
Trevor Leiba
There were many old CIC footballers there – Alvin Henderson, Hannibal Najjar, Keston Nancoo, Keith Look Loy, Ken and Wally Butcher, Frankie Stone, Neil Williams, Ian “Charla” Dore, Brian Gent, Murchison Pierre, Wayne Dobson, Gary Almondoz, etc.
The funeral also was attended by numerous past footballers such as Lincoln Phillips, Alvin Corneal, Sedley Joseph, “Gally” Cummings, Wayne Lewis, Ron LaForest, Tony “Chucker” Griffith, Tansley Thompson, Bobby Banfield, Winfield St. Hill, Lenny Alphonso, Desmond “Baby” Headley, Brian Rigsby, etc.
See link – (press control and click)
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article?id=161275050
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Luciano Woodley Passes Away
« on: February 01, 2008, 06:59:15 AM »
Luciano Woodley died at his home around 2:00 am (TT time) today.
Luci – I would like to say thanks so much for your friendship and the special times we spent on and off the field.
Love from your partner,
Trevor
Luci – I would like to say thanks so much for your friendship and the special times we spent on and off the field.
Love from your partner,
Trevor
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Football / Re: Wim only put down T&T football during his tenure!
« on: January 15, 2008, 02:45:50 PM »
Jack Manday,
You did provide some insightful information dey. I will not ask for your source, but I will say you do have good inside contact.
Trevor
You did provide some insightful information dey. I will not ask for your source, but I will say you do have good inside contact.
Trevor
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Football / Re: The new coach's PLAN should include.......
« on: January 01, 2008, 10:36:29 AM »
AB. Trini,
There are two problems in emailing your coach's plan to Corneal.
(1) You emailed it to Alvin and not Anton. Well, I gather if Alvin receives
it, he will give it to Anton.
(2) The bigger problem is that you emailed it to Alvin at -
<Alvin_corneal@ncsu.edu>. “Ncsu” stands for North Carolina State
University. Alvin has left there about nine years ago.
Trevor
There are two problems in emailing your coach's plan to Corneal.
(1) You emailed it to Alvin and not Anton. Well, I gather if Alvin receives
it, he will give it to Anton.
(2) The bigger problem is that you emailed it to Alvin at -
<Alvin_corneal@ncsu.edu>. “Ncsu” stands for North Carolina State
University. Alvin has left there about nine years ago.
Trevor
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Football / Re: Wim, Thanks for your energy and time
« on: December 22, 2007, 06:54:37 AM »
I could understand if Wim had tried to attack other TTFF members for whatever reason he chose, but in all people is Lincoln he went after. Lincoln??!! What does that tell allyuh about Wim? They say Wim more sour than a bag of lime. Ah could hear Nakhid laughing in Lebanon, and saying, “Ah tell allyuh so.”
Small Magician, as a big CIC brother, Ah tell yuh, leave Wim alone! It is a sad situation, but Wim set up he own self.
Trevor
Small Magician, as a big CIC brother, Ah tell yuh, leave Wim alone! It is a sad situation, but Wim set up he own self.
Trevor
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Football / Re: ...Following The Tuck
« on: December 15, 2007, 06:22:18 AM »
Ah hope Tucker does not get fired before Bermuda starts the World Cup qualifiers.
Trevor Leiba
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: ...Following The Tuck
« on: December 14, 2007, 08:51:42 AM »
What, the assistant job is taken?! Ah was thinking to appply for it.
Trevor Leiba
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: ...Following The Tuck
« on: December 14, 2007, 07:49:46 AM »
Who is Tucker's assistant coach?
Trevor Leiba
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Haitian robbery" T&T cheated W/Cup spot.
« on: November 26, 2007, 05:18:42 PM »
Deeks,
I believe you are right. I was picturing one of the goals to have taken place in that manner. Winston threw the ball and the keeper came over Steve. Steve ducked down and the ball came off his head. I remember there was some debate in Trinidad for the change of call being due to – the ball did not touch anyone, or Steve fouled the keeper, or it was just blatant thief. Ah go with the latter.
The amazing thing about this is that the two teams were back at the half line for the kick off when the linesman came running to the referee. After their talk, the referee changed the call. I believe this scenario of the teams returning to the half line for the kick off occurred more than once. I think the linesman was Canadian.
Coop’s, yuh can’t get in touch with one of the guys? Many of them are in New York.
Trevor Leiba
I believe you are right. I was picturing one of the goals to have taken place in that manner. Winston threw the ball and the keeper came over Steve. Steve ducked down and the ball came off his head. I remember there was some debate in Trinidad for the change of call being due to – the ball did not touch anyone, or Steve fouled the keeper, or it was just blatant thief. Ah go with the latter.
The amazing thing about this is that the two teams were back at the half line for the kick off when the linesman came running to the referee. After their talk, the referee changed the call. I believe this scenario of the teams returning to the half line for the kick off occurred more than once. I think the linesman was Canadian.
Coop’s, yuh can’t get in touch with one of the guys? Many of them are in New York.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Haitian robbery" T&T cheated W/Cup spot.
« on: November 26, 2007, 11:32:11 AM »
From my recall, it is a very accurate account of what transpired. However, I thought the match against Haiti was the last game. I really enjoy Lasana Liburd’s writings.
After each match, my football friends and I would start calling each other to find out the score. If we did not get the result, we had to wait the next day around 12:35 pm for Raffie to give it. Initially, not even TTT had a copy of the film. Someone called Raffie and told him that his brother had seen the game live on TV in Miami. I remember Raffie asking over the radio if the person can contact his brother in Miami with the hopes of getting a copy of the film. What a different world it is from then to today! The goal from Winston Phillips’ long throw was the one that remains vivid with me.
A group of us went to see the team arrive at Piarco. Many people were at Piarco that night, but there was delay after delay for the flight’s arrival. To kill time, we went by a bar near the airport. I remember the song “Daniel” by Elton John being played on the jukebox at the bar. Every time I hear “Daniel” I think of that moment. The team did not come in that night. They arrived sometime the next day.
This seems like yesterday!
Trevor Leiba
After each match, my football friends and I would start calling each other to find out the score. If we did not get the result, we had to wait the next day around 12:35 pm for Raffie to give it. Initially, not even TTT had a copy of the film. Someone called Raffie and told him that his brother had seen the game live on TV in Miami. I remember Raffie asking over the radio if the person can contact his brother in Miami with the hopes of getting a copy of the film. What a different world it is from then to today! The goal from Winston Phillips’ long throw was the one that remains vivid with me.
A group of us went to see the team arrive at Piarco. Many people were at Piarco that night, but there was delay after delay for the flight’s arrival. To kill time, we went by a bar near the airport. I remember the song “Daniel” by Elton John being played on the jukebox at the bar. Every time I hear “Daniel” I think of that moment. The team did not come in that night. They arrived sometime the next day.
This seems like yesterday!
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Good & Great Wingers (Wide MF)
« on: November 18, 2007, 07:20:21 PM »
Asylumseeker and Palos,
Allyuh make me put on meh thinking cap. I feel Coop’s, Deeks, and Observer would have to help me. Observer, from your postings, I realize that you are an old timer, and you are very knowledgeable of the game.
Asylumseeker, when you say, “I think this endured until at least until 1980,” I assume you are referring to teams in T&T utilizing the 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. Therefore, the “pure” winger was prominent. Before I answer, let me indulge in some history. Also, note Ah writing off the top of my head.
Fist of all, I lived about a block from the Savannah and about a 15-minute walk from the Oval. Thus, I was fortunate to see many football games as a youngster. I believe most of the top clubs in Trinidad in the late 50s and early 60s were using the “W” formation. This was the heyday of the true winger, which was epitomized by England’s Stanley Mathews. In our block versus block games in the Savannah, teams usually had five forwards. At that time, we saw little international football. TV only came to Trinidad around 62. Radio was the thing of the day. If you had a Radio Fusion-Trinidad box in your house, you were in business. We had cable radio before cable TV came popular around the world.
In 66, I entered St. Mary’s College, and our Form I team used the 4-2-4. We had Irish brothers as coaches, so I gather they used the system they were familiar with in Ireland. At the same time, the 4-2-4 was the most popular system in Trinidad. I played for St. Mary’s in 70 and 71, and we employed the 4-2-4. We did not use a sweeper. The two central defenders swiveled. Alvin Corneal was our coach. Before the 70 season, Alvin went to England to do the first part of the FA course. In 71, he returned to England to complete the FA badge. There, Alvin would have been exposed to the latest techniques and strategies of the game.
As you stated, Brazil won the 70 World Cup using the 4-2-4. We did see most of the games of the 70 World Cup on TV, but on a delayed basis. Around 68, Michael Laing, from England, became T&T national coach. To my recall, he utilized the 4-2-4. In 71, I played for the national under-19 team. Springer, from Paragon Club, was the coach of our youth team. He implemented the 4-2-4.
Between 72 and 74, I played for Maple. Alvin was the coach. We used the 4-2-4, and I believe most teams in T&T were employing the 4-2-4. In 1973, I went onto the national team. Edgar Vidale was the coach until Kevin Verity came around July of that year. Coop’s, you may have to interject on this. I think throughout the World Cup Qualifiers, the national team employed the 4-2-4. However, I believe that when the team went to Haiti, Kevin Verity used the 4-3-3.
I went to Howard University in 74, and throughout my time there, we utilized the 4-2-4. Lincoln Phillips was Howard’s coach. Most of the college and professional teams in the U.S. were using the 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. I want to say it was not until the late 70s that the total football concept began to surface, which was popularized by the Dutch. I must state that throughout the 4-2-4 period, especially under pressure, the wingers were expected to come back and help. Don’t believe the wingers just hung around on top when the team was in defense. All the teams I played for - from St. Mary’s to Maple to Howard were strong. It was at Howard, I realized how good African players were.
Yuh still up? I believe it was essential to provide you with this background before I answer you. Now let me respond. I do not think we had structural deficiencies in our midfield play as a result of employing the 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. Everybody was using the systems, so it did not matter. Do systems win games? It is important, but I believe it goes way beyond systems. Over the years, Brazil has placed emphasis on skill. Conversely, Germany has focused on organization and structure. From two different spectrums, these countries have been successful on the world stage.
I remember how the 73 team had to go to Brecon Castle about four times a week to train on a parched ground. Ants would crawl up your legs. Believe it or not, I think we have come a long way in our preparation of the national team. I do not want to talk too quickly because our organizational foundation is not solid. Before Lincoln Phillips took the TD job, a friend and I spent a tremendous amount of time with him discussing a wide-range of issues. For a couple months, we met a few times a week. In those meetings, we never spoke about systems of play. There is so much behind the scene before you get to the field!
Trevor Leiba
P.S. – Ah see Coop’s already start to help me on the issue.
Allyuh make me put on meh thinking cap. I feel Coop’s, Deeks, and Observer would have to help me. Observer, from your postings, I realize that you are an old timer, and you are very knowledgeable of the game.
Asylumseeker, when you say, “I think this endured until at least until 1980,” I assume you are referring to teams in T&T utilizing the 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. Therefore, the “pure” winger was prominent. Before I answer, let me indulge in some history. Also, note Ah writing off the top of my head.
Fist of all, I lived about a block from the Savannah and about a 15-minute walk from the Oval. Thus, I was fortunate to see many football games as a youngster. I believe most of the top clubs in Trinidad in the late 50s and early 60s were using the “W” formation. This was the heyday of the true winger, which was epitomized by England’s Stanley Mathews. In our block versus block games in the Savannah, teams usually had five forwards. At that time, we saw little international football. TV only came to Trinidad around 62. Radio was the thing of the day. If you had a Radio Fusion-Trinidad box in your house, you were in business. We had cable radio before cable TV came popular around the world.
In 66, I entered St. Mary’s College, and our Form I team used the 4-2-4. We had Irish brothers as coaches, so I gather they used the system they were familiar with in Ireland. At the same time, the 4-2-4 was the most popular system in Trinidad. I played for St. Mary’s in 70 and 71, and we employed the 4-2-4. We did not use a sweeper. The two central defenders swiveled. Alvin Corneal was our coach. Before the 70 season, Alvin went to England to do the first part of the FA course. In 71, he returned to England to complete the FA badge. There, Alvin would have been exposed to the latest techniques and strategies of the game.
As you stated, Brazil won the 70 World Cup using the 4-2-4. We did see most of the games of the 70 World Cup on TV, but on a delayed basis. Around 68, Michael Laing, from England, became T&T national coach. To my recall, he utilized the 4-2-4. In 71, I played for the national under-19 team. Springer, from Paragon Club, was the coach of our youth team. He implemented the 4-2-4.
Between 72 and 74, I played for Maple. Alvin was the coach. We used the 4-2-4, and I believe most teams in T&T were employing the 4-2-4. In 1973, I went onto the national team. Edgar Vidale was the coach until Kevin Verity came around July of that year. Coop’s, you may have to interject on this. I think throughout the World Cup Qualifiers, the national team employed the 4-2-4. However, I believe that when the team went to Haiti, Kevin Verity used the 4-3-3.
I went to Howard University in 74, and throughout my time there, we utilized the 4-2-4. Lincoln Phillips was Howard’s coach. Most of the college and professional teams in the U.S. were using the 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. I want to say it was not until the late 70s that the total football concept began to surface, which was popularized by the Dutch. I must state that throughout the 4-2-4 period, especially under pressure, the wingers were expected to come back and help. Don’t believe the wingers just hung around on top when the team was in defense. All the teams I played for - from St. Mary’s to Maple to Howard were strong. It was at Howard, I realized how good African players were.
Yuh still up? I believe it was essential to provide you with this background before I answer you. Now let me respond. I do not think we had structural deficiencies in our midfield play as a result of employing the 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. Everybody was using the systems, so it did not matter. Do systems win games? It is important, but I believe it goes way beyond systems. Over the years, Brazil has placed emphasis on skill. Conversely, Germany has focused on organization and structure. From two different spectrums, these countries have been successful on the world stage.
I remember how the 73 team had to go to Brecon Castle about four times a week to train on a parched ground. Ants would crawl up your legs. Believe it or not, I think we have come a long way in our preparation of the national team. I do not want to talk too quickly because our organizational foundation is not solid. Before Lincoln Phillips took the TD job, a friend and I spent a tremendous amount of time with him discussing a wide-range of issues. For a couple months, we met a few times a week. In those meetings, we never spoke about systems of play. There is so much behind the scene before you get to the field!
Trevor Leiba
P.S. – Ah see Coop’s already start to help me on the issue.
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Football / Re: Good & Great Wingers (Wide MF)
« on: November 17, 2007, 02:21:15 PM »
Palos,
I love your question. I gather you would take me to the brink on this one. A definition is a hell of a ting! What is the meaning of good? Ah don’t know. It all depends on how you define it within the context of the situation.
I believe two us agree that the systems over the years have changed the role of a pure winger to a player who is expected to go up and down the flank. In today’s systems, the outside player is expected to do the latter. Some are better going forward and some are better defensively. As good as Beckham is in crossing the ball, would you consider him a winger? Yes, Carlos is better than Beckham going down the flank, but is a true winger, Ah don’t think so.
Now Palos, ask me a simpler question like where do I live or am I married.
Trevor Leiba
I love your question. I gather you would take me to the brink on this one. A definition is a hell of a ting! What is the meaning of good? Ah don’t know. It all depends on how you define it within the context of the situation.
I believe two us agree that the systems over the years have changed the role of a pure winger to a player who is expected to go up and down the flank. In today’s systems, the outside player is expected to do the latter. Some are better going forward and some are better defensively. As good as Beckham is in crossing the ball, would you consider him a winger? Yes, Carlos is better than Beckham going down the flank, but is a true winger, Ah don’t think so.
Now Palos, ask me a simpler question like where do I live or am I married.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Good & Great Wingers (Wide MF)
« on: November 17, 2007, 01:28:43 PM »
Palos,
Point well taken! I understand your argument. The systems over the years have changed an orthodox winger to a player who is expected to go up and down the flank.
Until the early 1960s, the “W” formation was very popular. In those days, there were five forwards. By the middle 60s through the early 70s, the 4-2-4 was the system of choice. By the early 70s, teams began to employ the 4-3-3. Before I left Trinidad in 1974, I believe 90% of the games I played in, my team used the 4-2-4.
I played against and with Leroy Spann on numerous occasions, and within the system of the day, he was not a winger; he was a midfielder. I could understand the argument about Carlos Edwards in today’s system being considered a winger. Keep in mind this is very hypothetical – if I were to put Carlos Edwards on a team with three or four forwards, I would not position him on the right wing. He would either be a right midfielder or a right back.
It’s all in debate!
Trevor Leiba
Point well taken! I understand your argument. The systems over the years have changed an orthodox winger to a player who is expected to go up and down the flank.
Until the early 1960s, the “W” formation was very popular. In those days, there were five forwards. By the middle 60s through the early 70s, the 4-2-4 was the system of choice. By the early 70s, teams began to employ the 4-3-3. Before I left Trinidad in 1974, I believe 90% of the games I played in, my team used the 4-2-4.
I played against and with Leroy Spann on numerous occasions, and within the system of the day, he was not a winger; he was a midfielder. I could understand the argument about Carlos Edwards in today’s system being considered a winger. Keep in mind this is very hypothetical – if I were to put Carlos Edwards on a team with three or four forwards, I would not position him on the right wing. He would either be a right midfielder or a right back.
It’s all in debate!
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Good & Great Wingers (Wide MF)
« on: November 17, 2007, 12:04:24 PM »
I really do enjoy the ole talk on the site, but I try not to get into the arguments. However, let me give my two cents on this issue. This is based on wingers I have seen.
1st Tier - Alvin Corneal, Warren Archibald, Andy Aleong, Arthur Brown,
and Sammy Llewellyn
2nd Tier – Leo Brewster, Clebert Lennard, Ken Murren, Leonson Lewis,
and Jarred Nixon
Are Leroy Spann and Carlos Edwards wingers? I thought they were midfielders. I have heard many arguments about Sammy versus Leo and Clebert. It is a tough call, but I will give the edge to Sammy. I believe Sammy was more explosive than two of them.
Let me mention the names of Buggy Haynes and Ellis Sadaphal. They were not wingers, but I have not seen much said about them on the site. For about a four-year period, Buggy was our number one forward. Also, Ellis was one of QRC’s all-time best players.
Palos, sometime back you asked me about T&T top players ever. I did not give you feedback, but here is my response – Warren Archibald, Alvin Corneal, Gally Cummings, Steve David, Leroy DeLeon, Russell Latapy, and Dwight Yorke. I did not see Mathew Nunes, but I heard a lot about him.
Trevor Leiba
1st Tier - Alvin Corneal, Warren Archibald, Andy Aleong, Arthur Brown,
and Sammy Llewellyn
2nd Tier – Leo Brewster, Clebert Lennard, Ken Murren, Leonson Lewis,
and Jarred Nixon
Are Leroy Spann and Carlos Edwards wingers? I thought they were midfielders. I have heard many arguments about Sammy versus Leo and Clebert. It is a tough call, but I will give the edge to Sammy. I believe Sammy was more explosive than two of them.
Let me mention the names of Buggy Haynes and Ellis Sadaphal. They were not wingers, but I have not seen much said about them on the site. For about a four-year period, Buggy was our number one forward. Also, Ellis was one of QRC’s all-time best players.
Palos, sometime back you asked me about T&T top players ever. I did not give you feedback, but here is my response – Warren Archibald, Alvin Corneal, Gally Cummings, Steve David, Leroy DeLeon, Russell Latapy, and Dwight Yorke. I did not see Mathew Nunes, but I heard a lot about him.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: A RAZZA TAZZZ!! CIC REACH INTERCOL FINAL
« on: November 14, 2007, 08:34:21 AM »
In those days, it was quite common for goalkeepers in Trinidad to wear gloves when it was wet. Back then, the gloves were not designed for dry weather. I had pretty good gloves at that time. In my opinion, the netted glove with rubber pimples was the best. I cannot recall any keeper who was known for his gloves.
However, when I played for Maple in 1972-1974, I began to wear track pants. I did it for protection. As you may know, keepers get a lot of burns on their sides. Raffie Knowles, the number one sportscaster, made a big ordeal about it – claiming it was a fashion show.
Trevor Leiba
However, when I played for Maple in 1972-1974, I began to wear track pants. I did it for protection. As you may know, keepers get a lot of burns on their sides. Raffie Knowles, the number one sportscaster, made a big ordeal about it – claiming it was a fashion show.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: A RAZZA TAZZZ!! CIC REACH INTERCOL FINAL
« on: November 13, 2007, 06:21:55 PM »
Most goalkeepers can score goals. I was a wicked forward. Ask Tongue what they used to call me when Ah played out. Lincoln Phillips used to score plenty goals too, but I did not like to play with him. When Lincoln played out, he had like too much a star boy ting. He always wanted the other forward to be a decoy for him. In Shaka’s prime, he was a deadly forward. Ah tell yuh he would have scored more goals for T&T than some of the forwards who played for us over the last 15-20 years.
I was CIC goalkeeper in 1970 and 1971. Ah know some of you on this site were not even born as yet.
Love,
Trevor Leiba
I was CIC goalkeeper in 1970 and 1971. Ah know some of you on this site were not even born as yet.
Love,
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: A RAZZA TAZZZ!! CIC REACH INTERCOL FINAL
« on: November 13, 2007, 11:03:10 AM »
Degouti and Deeks,
Yeh, if they make it to the final, Ah might go down. Ah wonder if they would give me a run. Shaka down there already. If two us get a run outside, we will score plenty goals.
Trevor Leiba
Yeh, if they make it to the final, Ah might go down. Ah wonder if they would give me a run. Shaka down there already. If two us get a run outside, we will score plenty goals.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: A RAZZA TAZZZ!! CIC REACH INTERCOL FINAL
« on: November 11, 2007, 04:10:39 AM »
Big horse is big horse!
Trevor Leiba
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Who was de best players to ever visit T&T.
« on: November 06, 2007, 12:51:47 PM »
Jai John,
You are good. Who are you? You are on target. After Eloi, that was one of the greatest performaces I saw. The Howard left winger was Mori Diane. Howard drew against the national team in the Oval. Mori really starred against the Defense Forces at King George V Park. It was a combined team of all the defense forces. It was a night game. That was the game when Charlie Spooner swung the right hand at him. I am sure Coop’s played in that game.
Trevor Leiba
You are good. Who are you? You are on target. After Eloi, that was one of the greatest performaces I saw. The Howard left winger was Mori Diane. Howard drew against the national team in the Oval. Mori really starred against the Defense Forces at King George V Park. It was a combined team of all the defense forces. It was a night game. That was the game when Charlie Spooner swung the right hand at him. I am sure Coop’s played in that game.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Who was de best players to ever visit T&T.
« on: November 06, 2007, 12:20:34 PM »
Jai John, I believe you are right. His name was “Eloi.” Yes, the trainer with the bucket was the greatest. The crowd could not wait to see him run onto the field to assist an injured player. He was quick and held the bucket with a straight arm – not even spilling a drop of water.
Observer, I remember Chelsea coming too in 1971. Southhampton came with them on that tour. Southhampton played the national under-19 team a practice game at King George V Park. They dropped about six on us in a 60-minute game. Needless to say, I collected the six goals.
Trevor Leiba
Observer, I remember Chelsea coming too in 1971. Southhampton came with them on that tour. Southhampton played the national under-19 team a practice game at King George V Park. They dropped about six on us in a 60-minute game. Needless to say, I collected the six goals.
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Who was de best players to ever visit T&T.
« on: November 06, 2007, 11:30:30 AM »
Coop's,
I know you would remember him. You hit it on the head. My most vivid memory of that tour was how Aloi destroyed Anim David and Winston Phillips (Bee). Man, he had Anim David spinning like a bobtail dog. Yes, he came down the right side - near the pavilion end. I know Bee is your boy, but he was a bruiser too. The team was Nautico. Edu was on the Brazilian schoolboy team that came to Trinidad in the 1960s. I believe they even beat the national team.
Trevor
I know you would remember him. You hit it on the head. My most vivid memory of that tour was how Aloi destroyed Anim David and Winston Phillips (Bee). Man, he had Anim David spinning like a bobtail dog. Yes, he came down the right side - near the pavilion end. I know Bee is your boy, but he was a bruiser too. The team was Nautico. Edu was on the Brazilian schoolboy team that came to Trinidad in the 1960s. I believe they even beat the national team.
Trevor
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Football / Re: Who was de best players to ever visit T&T.
« on: November 06, 2007, 10:29:18 AM »
He may not have had the biggest name, but the best and most exciting performance I have seen by a foreign player in Trinidad was the Brazilian, Aloi (not sure of spelling), in 1971.
Trevor Leiba
Trevor Leiba
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Football / Re: Brian Lewis slams Win Rijsbergen.
« on: October 23, 2007, 12:02:23 PM »
The situation with Nakhid had something to do with the food being served. However, I have been told that the view many have of Wim now may make Nakhid look good.
Trevor
Trevor
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Football / Re: Brian Lewis slams Win Rijsbergen.
« on: October 23, 2007, 06:46:16 AM »
What Brian Lewis is saying about Wim, I have been hearing for awhile. I understand that Wim has a serious condescending attitude. I feel there will be some forthcoming details on this story.
Trevor
Trevor