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TT film industry branded backward

By Denise Balgobin Saturday, April 28 2007

Shooting in Trinidad for Branded, the second Hollywood-produced movie to be filmed here, has come to a conclusion, with all the cast and crew members having returned to their respective homes, but not before sharing some of their experiences with members of the media.

During a recent interview with Newsday, producer Daniel Springen, actor/producer G Anthony Joseph and Kristin Chin Cheong, managing director of Galt Alliance Films, expressed regret that the local filming segment ended without the Government or relevant officials recognising it as an ideal marketing opportunity.

“After the hassles I went through trying to get my filming equipment cleared by your Customs Department, I cannot honestly recommend the island as a viable location for other film-makers. Especially since the type of equipment we needed is not available here,” Springen stated.

“While it is a beautiful location, with stunning scenery, that is not enough to encourage people to film here. A countrys such as Thailand which is just as beautiful, is a more accommodating location, wth the latest filming technology available.

“People there understand what it takes to encourage film-makers to come there,” he added.

Springen explained that the film’s co-star, G Anthony, is a native of this country and Trinidad was chosen for their island location shooting.

He added that he was part of the production team for the movie Backlash which was also filmed here two years ago and, after the kind of difficulties they experienced then, he was hoping things would have improved since.

“I was very disappointed that the situation was actually worse,” he said.

Admitting he loves his homeland, “G” said he felt hurt by the negative reaction of many businesses and banks which they attempted to use as filming locations.

“At one bank, we were told: ‘Put your request in writing and when the person to deal with it comes back from vacation we’ll contact you’. While we understand and respect rules and regulations, the country needs to develop a sense of what the film industry is all about,” he reiterated.

Joseph said he was dejected since the hassle involved in making a movie in this country was just not worth it.

“I can’t say that I’ll be working here again anytime soon,” he admitted.

Despite their setbacks, the producers had a lot of praise for the local crew hired for the film. “This country has a lot of hardworking people, and the crew was wonderful. The police and protective services were also helpful.”

“Branded” will be produced by local film company Galt Alliance Films which is run by Dave Cabral and Hollywood-based production company Tritan-Northstar Entertainment operated by Joseph.

The movie stars Rhett Giles (of “Lost”, “Nip/Tuck”, and “War of the Worlds”); Nick Mancuso (of “Heartbreakers” and “Under Siege 2”); Wolf Muser (of “West Wing”, “Walker Texas Ranger” and “Alias”); and Frida Farrell (of “Lost Colony”, and “Venus Drowning”).

The storyline follows the adventures of a CIA assassin who is double-crossed by a member of her own agency. In order to get to the bottom of things, the agent (Jane) comes to Port-of-Spain, Trinidad, to investigate a mysterious bank account which might explain why she has been blacklisted.

In the middle of all the action, Jane experiences all the delights of Trinidad culture.

Officials from the Trinidad and Tobago Film Company previously pointed out that incentive plans offered to companies to do business in Louisiana, USA, and Canada, had helped the development of large film industries in those countries and incentives now being offered in TT were poised to have a similar effect.



So as de man say .dont expect him to be coming back to T&T anytime soon...According to him our film industry too backward  :-\

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TT film industry branded backward

By Denise Balgobin Saturday, April 28 2007

Shooting in Trinidad for Branded, the second Hollywood-produced movie to be filmed here, has come to a conclusion, with all the cast and crew members having returned to their respective homes, but not before sharing some of their experiences with members of the media.

During a recent interview with Newsday, producer Daniel Springen, actor/producer G Anthony Joseph and Kristin Chin Cheong, managing director of Galt Alliance Films, expressed regret that the local filming segment ended without the Government or relevant officials recognising it as an ideal marketing opportunity.

“After the hassles I went through trying to get my filming equipment cleared by your Customs Department, I cannot honestly recommend the island as a viable location for other film-makers. Especially since the type of equipment we needed is not available here,” Springen stated.

“While it is a beautiful location, with stunning scenery, that is not enough to encourage people to film here. A countrys such as Thailand which is just as beautiful, is a more accommodating location, wth the latest filming technology available.

“People there understand what it takes to encourage film-makers to come there,” he added.

Springen explained that the film’s co-star, G Anthony, is a native of this country and Trinidad was chosen for their island location shooting.

He added that he was part of the production team for the movie Backlash which was also filmed here two years ago and, after the kind of difficulties they experienced then, he was hoping things would have improved since.

“I was very disappointed that the situation was actually worse,” he said.

Admitting he loves his homeland, “G” said he felt hurt by the negative reaction of many businesses and banks which they attempted to use as filming locations.

“At one bank, we were told: ‘Put your request in writing and when the person to deal with it comes back from vacation we’ll contact you’. While we understand and respect rules and regulations, the country needs to develop a sense of what the film industry is all about,” he reiterated.

Joseph said he was dejected since the hassle involved in making a movie in this country was just not worth it.

“I can’t say that I’ll be working here again anytime soon,” he admitted.

Despite their setbacks, the producers had a lot of praise for the local crew hired for the film. “This country has a lot of hardworking people, and the crew was wonderful. The police and protective services were also helpful.”

“Branded” will be produced by local film company Galt Alliance Films which is run by Dave Cabral and Hollywood-based production company Tritan-Northstar Entertainment operated by Joseph.

The movie stars Rhett Giles (of “Lost”, “Nip/Tuck”, and “War of the Worlds”); Nick Mancuso (of “Heartbreakers” and “Under Siege 2”); Wolf Muser (of “West Wing”, “Walker Texas Ranger” and “Alias”); and Frida Farrell (of “Lost Colony”, and “Venus Drowning”).

The storyline follows the adventures of a CIA assassin who is double-crossed by a member of her own agency. In order to get to the bottom of things, the agent (Jane) comes to Port-of-Spain, Trinidad, to investigate a mysterious bank account which might explain why she has been blacklisted.

In the middle of all the action, Jane experiences all the delights of Trinidad culture.

Officials from the Trinidad and Tobago Film Company previously pointed out that incentive plans offered to companies to do business in Louisiana, USA, and Canada, had helped the development of large film industries in those countries and incentives now being offered in TT were poised to have a similar effect.


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so tell me, on What Street she LOOKING for man again?? :devil:
den tell me why is dat?
Hold on I go tell you ;) ;)
because North Man sweet to de BONE!!!!  :angel:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:...West Coast de woman just walking down Federick street..who say she lookin for man up dey?....According to Scrunter with all de grease we south women eating dey bound to increase. :.

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T v United States U-17 game.
« on: April 30, 2007, 09:29:50 AM »
this will be the toughest oppoents out of all
they have the most world cup experience
i not expecting a win honestly
USA4- T&T 0

Show a little  faith nah man.. ???.......I know the U.S is bettter prepared than the warriors...but if this Young warrior team play to its full potential they can surprise the U.S

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Some trinbagonians really believe dat dem foreign artists really care bout we so much..

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Why man who have wife or girlfren still look to track odder oman??? ??? ???

De same friggin reason why woman who have man does track other men!!...dont act like women are saints

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Dis is some dotishness..

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Please remove Santa Cruz from your signature.
Yuh shamin yuh hometown.

Aye I doh care wat you say nah...My hometown is San 'DO...so doh get tie up!!....Yuh soundin like yuh cant handle de truth in de song.. :devil:

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T v United States U-17 game.
« on: April 30, 2007, 08:40:26 AM »
All the best to the young warriors.. :beermug: :beermug:...

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel tells his side
« on: April 30, 2007, 08:33:15 AM »
http://www.trinicenter.com/tnt/2007/270407b.html


Injured Brandis Brown Speaks About Brawl at Zen
TrinidadandTobagoNews.com
April 27, 2007


Brandis Brown, another injured party in the brawl in club Zen around 2:30 a.m. yesterday morning involving Machel Montano and his entourage, gave his account of what transpired in the club.

Speaking on CN3 news, Brandis said an eighteen year old was slapped after he accidentally spilled a drink on a female friend of the Soca artiste. He explained,

"I saw Machel, so I asked him, 'Why you slap the young boy for?' If you see the young boy...he is eighteen years and he is no big fella. And with that Machel asked me, 'You were f***king there?' and started approaching me; he and everybody who was with him. Next thing he hit me with, I think, a glass he had in his hand. He hit me with it and everybody else jumped in and started beating me."

Brandis said he tried to run, and was followed by a group of about fourteen men. He is still nursing a red eye from being hit with the glass and has other bruises. He said his friend, Russell Pollonais, was beaten when he tried to save him. Russell remains hospitalized.


Attorney Ramlagon who was retained as council for the injured parties, said he intends to get justice for the young men. Mr. Ramlogan said,

"I would be filing a civil claim against all those who brutalized Brandis and his friend for damages, for assault and battery, for the injuries they inflicted upon these two young fellas in circumstances where it was totally avoidable, totally unnecessary and they take good advantage of them."

On TV6 news, Machel Montano said that he would issue a statement following his busy schedule this weekend. He said any recording of the incident would show that he did not hit anyone. Machel is performing at the Plymouth Jazz Festival and he is also carded to perform at the closing ceremony of World Cup Cricket in Barbados.

Investigations into the incident are continuing.

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This guy saying Machel and everyone who was with Machel jump him and beat him down..and Machel is saying that he did not hit anyone and also said that any video clip of the icident will prove that he did not hit anyone....so does anyone have any video clips so we can settle this ??....My opinion is that so many people jump this man that he just asssumed Machel jumped him also

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel tells his side
« on: April 30, 2007, 08:29:46 AM »
http://www.trinicenter.com/tnt/2007/270407b.html

Injured Brandis Brown Speaks About Brawl at Zen
TrinidadandTobagoNews.com
April 27, 2007


Brandis Brown, another injured party in the brawl in club Zen around 2:30 a.m. yesterday morning involving Machel Montano and his entourage, gave his account of what transpired in the club.

Speaking on CN3 news, Brandis said an eighteen year old was slapped after he accidentally spilled a drink on a female friend of the Soca artiste. He explained,

"I saw Machel, so I asked him, 'Why you slap the young boy for?' If you see the young boy...he is eighteen years and he is no big fella. And with that Machel asked me, 'You were f***king there?' and started approaching me; he and everybody who was with him. Next thing he hit me with, I think, a glass he had in his hand. He hit me with it and everybody else jumped in and started beating me."

Brandis said he tried to run, and was followed by a group of about fourteen men. He is still nursing a red eye from being hit with the glass and has other bruises. He said his friend, Russell Pollonais, was beaten when he tried to save him. Russell remains hospitalized.


Attorney Ramlagon who was retained as council for the injured parties, said he intends to get justice for the young men. Mr. Ramlogan said,

"I would be filing a civil claim against all those who brutalized Brandis and his friend for damages, for assault and battery, for the injuries they inflicted upon these two young fellas in circumstances where it was totally avoidable, totally unnecessary and they take good advantage of them."

On TV6 news, Machel Montano said that he would issue a statement following his busy schedule this weekend. He said any recording of the incident would show that he did not hit anyone. Machel is performing at the Plymouth Jazz Festival and he is also carded to perform at the closing ceremony of World Cup Cricket in Barbados.

Investigations into the incident are continuing.

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General Discussion / Re: Dis knighting ting!
« on: April 30, 2007, 08:07:45 AM »
i personally think that carrying "Sir" have more clout or have more standing that lets say "Trinity Cross"
mustbe only people in the Cariibean know what a Trinity Cross is.
Maybe wehn T&T get 2020 status things go change and everybody go know we lol

But that's my point!!...Trinbagonians should not wait until our own national awards become famous around the world then to acknowledge it as the best awards that can be given to our national heroes...Why cant we as Trinabagonians believe that our "Trinity Cross" (if that's stil its name) is more significant than the Queen Knighting our national heroes?..The Queen is nuthhin to we since 1976 but yet we request for our national heroes to be knighted...Yuh think America care bout dat Knighting nonsense!...India wa colonised by England for a long time but dem nuh care bout dat knighting business either!!...It's a colonised mentality that some Trinbagonians still have which makes them believe that the foreign systems and procedures are more significant than our own systems and pocedures that we have developed and should feel proud of....

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Sean Paul snubs fans in Tobago
« on: April 29, 2007, 10:51:30 PM »
Sean Paul snubs fans
Michael Mondezie mmondezie@trinidadexpress.com

Saturday, April 28th 2007

   

Jamaican dancehall star Sean Paul created quite a stir when he snubbed fans and media personnel upon his arrival at the Crown Point Airport in Tobago yesterday.

The multi-platinum selling artiste refused to acknowledge fans and media and headed straight for a gold-coloured Prado SUV parked outside the arrival gate.

When photographers attempted to approach the vehicle, they were warded off by a man identified only as Steve, who claimed to be the artiste's manager.

The man said Sean Paul would not be providing a photo op and said all fans would see him at the concert.

When informed that it was Trinidadian media requesting the photo op, the man responded by saying, "We don't care about Trinidad."

The event was the only sour note on a beautiful Friday morning in the sister isle, that saw hundreds of Trinidadian music lovers begin to arrive by sea and air for this weekend's Plymouth Jazz Festival at the Plymouth Recreation Park in Plymouth.

It seems April is becoming the new August, as more and more local tourists are planning their weekend vacations around Plymouth's big show in lieu of the traditional Great Race activities.

Prime Minister Patrick Manning was the most noticeable arrival. He touched down at Crown Point Airport with his wife, Education Minister Hazel Manning, around noon yesterday.

The Prime Minister is expected to make an appearance in the VVIP section at tonight's opening of the festival, which features Sean Paul and veteran US-rapper/actor LL Cool J.

Both were reportedly already on the island following checks with the promoter yesterday, as well as opening act local soca band Kes.

On a cloudless Friday morning, organisers said all systems are go for the much anticipated show.

An all-star women's cast, including Trinidad-born Heather Headley, R&B divas Gladys Knight and Diana Ross and Mary J Blige will perform at the Plymouth ground today.

Of that line up, only Knight and Headley were already reportedly on the island.

Organisers said Mary J Blige and Ross were scheduled to arrive late yesterday.

Meanwhile, British pop legend Sir Elton John, the centre of much controversy in Tobago because of his homosexual preference, is expected to arrive tomorrow.

Despite protests from clergymen on the island, Sir Elton will perform
alongside legendary US-funk Earth Wind & Fire and veteran R&B crooner Al Green, both of whom are also expected tomorrow.

Soca music will also have its say at the festival, as both Destra Garcia and Machel Montano are scheduled to appear today and tomorrow, respectively.
   

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Jess reminding allyuh wey de bess women in T&T come from...Just stating de facts doh get vex  ;D

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Just reminding allyuh where de bess women in T&T come from.....Just stating de facts doh get vex   

  ;D

http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/lyrics/oil_in_de_coil.htm

verse 1]
Dis woman strolling down Frederick Street
She bum bum rollin', she looking sweet
Men start suit'n, a fella shout
Darlin whey yuh from, she say I from South
And with dis sweet refrain
She start to explain

[chorus]
Is de oil in de coil
Dat have meh looking so
Ah want dem town men and dem to know
Is de oil in de coil
South woman must look good
We using oil with fire wood

[verse 2]
She say meh name is Annabella
And ah living Marabella
Well what again yuh want to know
Know yuh find out whey have meh looking so
Ah eating plenty grease
Ah bound to increase

[chorus]
Is de oil in de coil
Dat have meh looking so
Ah want dem town men and dem to know
Is de oil in de coil
South woman must look good
We using oil with fire wood

[verse 2]
De woman round like a butterball
She say ah oil man controlling all
Looking like a thoroughbread
She could make any mister bounce he head
And watching cocoyea, but watch de same thread

[chorus]

[bridge]
A want dem town men and dem to know
A want dem town men and dem to know
repeat til end

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General Discussion / Dis knighting ting!
« on: April 29, 2007, 07:12:27 AM »
Why do some Trinbagonians still request that our national heroes be knighted by the Queen of England when T&T already have our highest medals of honour established since the 1960's?...(for example some people are requesting that Brian Lara be knighted by the Queen of England)..Now I do admire the entire knighting of the Queen process but I believe our highest medal of honour is more significant than anything that any other country can give us...The last time I checked we replace the Queen with a our President since 1976 and since 1970 T&T was a REPUBLIC....some islands still have the Queen as their Head of State so I understand the Head of their states knighting their heroes but how does T&T fall into that category?..Trinbagonians need to let go of this "colonised" mentality and learn how to admire our own establishments..I hear soem people in T&T (especially the older generations) talk about  "how great it woul be for our national heroes to be knighted by the Queen of England" ...sowhat the hell does that mean!!..Steupse...We broke off all those type of ties with them a long time ago!!

Not because we were once a British colony or because we are a member of the commonwealth means that we should consider the knighting honour (which is a foreign and not national honour) higher than our own genuine honours..America (who was colonised by the british) could care less about that entire knighting ordeal because they believe their own honours that are given to their heroes are more signficant than what a foreign nation can give to an American hero..but in T&T we see other countries honours as more significant than ours..Is it because we have a lack of patriotism?.....So the Trinabagonians who beleieve that our national heroes should be knighted by the Queen of England...please explain why?

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel tells his side
« on: April 29, 2007, 06:19:50 AM »
SOCA STAR Machel Montano yesterday emphatically denied allegations made against him of violent actions towards individuals at the Zen nightclub in Port of Spain.

Furthermore, he said he has no intention of migrating.

In shedding light on the series of events which unfolded on April 26, Montano said he was socialising with a few friends, without his security detail, when a female patron grabbed him from behind and started dancing on him.

Montano obliged and the woman, who was not known to him, subsequently left. She returned shortly after and started to wine on him and, at this point, he politely declined and moved to another location in the club, Montano said in a statement, issued last night by advertising agency Valdez and Torry International.

Montano then met a female acquaintance at the club and started to dance with her. The unknown woman and a male companion followed and proceeded to dance alongside Montano and his partner, according to the statement. Montano and his female friend moved away and were again followed.

At some point, the unknown woman's partner threw a full drink with ice at Montano's female friend and Montano then complained to the male companion of the unknown woman.

The man then became very aggressive and violent towards Montano, resulting in him pushing Montano. Montano, the statement said, defended himself by pushing the man.

At this point, Zen security intervened and escorted the gentleman out of the club. Half an hour later, Montano tried to leave and was met by the angry ejected patron and his posse, the release stated.

The group continued hurling insults and the unknown woman spat at Montano, throwing a shoe at him. Montano was escorted by Zen security and was pursued by the unknown woman and her female friends, one of whom spat at him yet again, the statement added. At this point, the statement said, Montano left. - See Page 16
   

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What about Track & Field / Re: Kelly -ann wins heat
« on: April 28, 2007, 10:33:07 PM »
Place ID Athlete School/Affiliation Mark
1 01 Kerron Stewart Auburn 11.15
2 04 Sherry Fletcher Louisiana State 11.43
3 07 Gloria Asumnu Tulane 11.47
4 05 Tracy Anne Rowe Auburn 11.54
5 02 Murielle Ahoure George Mason 11.55
6 03 Kelly Ann Baptiste Louisiana State 11.62
7 06 Barbara Pierre St. Augustine's 11.71
8 09 Jessica Young Richmond 11.76
DNS 08 Lynne Layne Tennessee 

she has to be burn out or maybe ill  now something is wrong with kelly ann 11.62 ???? she openend the season with 11.22 nope sumthing wrong
 


I'm waiting to hear her response to this performance

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Re: Machel tells his side
« on: April 28, 2007, 10:25:47 PM »
That's why I was just watching all the Trinbagonians who was quick to bash Machel..and I just shook my head...Trinis need to listen to both sides of a story before dey start dey bachhanalist attitude...Some man jump on Machel like if they was there when the incident happened...but I was not surprise that Trinbagonians reacted like this because our behaviour is just a bi-product of our bachannalist society...After reading just the first report about the incident in Club Zen "Some man was ranting and raveing like ah skettle in ah Jamaican passa passa video"..If yuh dont like de man music then jus say so but dont wait for some shit to happen to blame him without knowing anything about what happened Steupse!!...

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i see this eh going anywhere......in my mind i dont think we have our own "language". we have an accent and use the english language in our own little way, but most of it we use to talk to friends or family you know? you wouldnt talk like that in a interview with a big company would you? they'll kick yuh ass out in 2 seconds.

Yes I agree that if you go for a job in a country where English is the main language then its expected that you speak English...so I still dont get your point... :devil:

Have you ever experienced an interview in Trinidad? 

If you speak in our "native english", that will probably decrease your chances significantly of getting a job in any decent sized firm.

I think that's his point  :beermug:

Now I know you did not read the entire thread ...(because am going to repeat what I've been saying all through this thread).....I know its like that in T&T because the authorities classify English as our main language...which is sad because we have our unique native tongue...Now the authorities will say our native tongue should never be used in a formal setting because the authorities still have that colonised mentality...They think the foreign system is the best and are reluctant to develop our own system...If we had established our native tongue (language) as our main language years ago therefore our native tongue will have been used in formal setting today ...and now we will not be scornful to use our native tongue in a formal setting because it would have been something natural by now...In india they use Hindi (their main language) in their formal settings although most indians know how to speak English because is English is taught at a very young age in schools ..but they are patriotic about their culture and lifestyle (which includes the way they speak).You can use Haiti as  another example.T&T is still hanging on to that saying "we was last colonised by an English country so English will remain our main language and will always be used by the media and formal settings"...now after so many years of having this hypocrite identity its difficult for us to vision the transition of establishing our native tongue as our first and main language...and it seems we care alot about what other countries will think of us if we were to adapt our native tongue and classify it as ah official language...what can I say we living in a copy cat nation  :-\

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i see this eh going anywhere......in my mind i dont think we have our own "language". we have an accent and use the english language in our own little way, but most of it we use to talk to friends or family you know? you wouldnt talk like that in a interview with a big company would you? they'll kick yuh ass out in 2 seconds.

Yes I agree that if you go for a job in a country where English is the main language then its expected that you speak English...so I still dont get your point... :devil:...sadly the T&T authorities acknowledges English as our main language

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Now you are one of the people who believe what the average Trinbagonian speak in Trinbago is the English language..but I know that's not true...yuh living in denial

 :rotfl: :rotfl: well yes, I've seen it all on this forum...apparently we do not speak English in T&T

breds yuh seriously have to take a trip to Glasgow or hear a Scouser speak....yuh will soon understand we speak english very clearly....





:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Bredda de English language is not our native tongue..and we speak more of our native tongue than English in T&T ...like yuh was in Glasgow a little bit too long  :rotfl:

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Football / Re: Hello my trinni friends...
« on: April 27, 2007, 08:45:00 PM »
Just thought id say hello from sunderland! Its great to see trinni support at sunderland games these days, and i just cant wait for next season now! I have to say carlos has been magnificent for us, and in my opinion is roy keane's best signing to date. When we were without him, boy did we miss him, but he made a fantasticly quick recovery from injury and now hes in supurb form once again. Shame he only came 3rd in the fans player of the season  :-[

So tell me, are there any other trinni players you would like to see sunderland sign in the summer??

Hope to see as many trinnis as possible at future sunderland games.... biig ut to all dee trinni sunderlan faans!  :beermug:

Kenwyne Jones (Southampton)......and we have alot of talent at home in T&T, so it will benefit Sunderland if they send some of their people down here to do some recruiting. :beermug:

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ProblemJaydees,

I not understanding you....we speak English in Trinidad.

You communicate to everyone on this board in English and you are typing English.

Now because you pronounce a word differently or spell it differently you want to classify it as a totally different language?

Or is it that words that we use in everyday language that trinis know...e.g Mako meh man, fass, commess etc. Are to be grouped together more words created and a new language be defined from that as our own?

I want you to enlighten all of us and give us an example of this "Language" you want to create.

Give us a one paragraph nah.....Translate a nursery rhyme or something?

Keep the age difference and colonial mentality and all them kinda ting out the arguement for now, it not adding substance to your arguement. Purport a valid reason for your claim and lets judge how feasible it is.

Also...what about all the slangs that we have imported from our cousins in the Caribbean and Up North, that we feel we create....e.g yuh done know. Etc. Or the setta Rasta talk that pervades the vocabulary of the youth of today? What going on in these instances?

Come nah translate Mary had a little lamb or something in this new language....

When you finish I will continue the questions....as of now I want you to develop the mustard seed yuh now plant.


Touches yuh write ah long story dey for no reason...I know because a language is worded and spelt differently is not classifies as a language..(interesting you left out pronounced differently and may also have a different meaning)..Now yuh cah tell meh what to leave out and what to post in my responses because everything I write draw a reference to my analysis of the topic...So I will say it again the authorities still have a friggin colonised mentality...and what de hell yuh mean explain or define this "language" am talking about!! like YUH doh know how tuh speak yuh native tongue!!(language)...and Wow I didnt know I was speaking mostly English and not my native tongue on this site..No shit Touces I didnt know that!!...all the questions you ask me I've previously answered or explained in my previous responses...so go back and do some reading before yuh do all dat writing nah!..Now you are one of the people who believe what the average Trinbagonian speak in Trinbago is the English language..but I know that's not true...yuh living in denial

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I believe we Trinbagonians should acknowlege our Trini language as ah standard and seperate language (like spanish, English, French..etc)...Ah doh believe we language is English and people who keep on sayin dat eh facing reality...Haiti language is rooted from french but their authorities has classified it as ah sperate standard language because its not French..Ah lot of Trini words are not rooted from de English language....I do believe English should be taught in schools like Spanish because in dis day and age its beneficial to be bi-lingual.....De local media should start printin in we native tongue and someone should print ah Trinbagonian dictionary......Our language is one of de main tings dat seperate we from de rest of de world and something we should cherish and be proud about....wat is allyuh opinion?

So you think we should formalise a language that only 1 million people would speak and, by making it our first language, effectively separating us from the rest of the world (in your words) and making international communication and business near impossible?

Rather than learn a genuinely useful foreign language, we should just invent one?



We do not have to formalise a language we already have our own language..its just not acknowleged as our main language..Its not like am saying everyone should go and learn how to speak what we already speaking everday LOL.....and like I said before said nothing is wrong with learning English because its beneficial to be bi-lingual...
Yeh and you dont see anything wrong with Trinbago using a foreign language as our main language...(especially when we have our own native language) That's just a colonised mentality!!..
Trinidad has a unique culture, very unique. A major and defining part of a culture is its language. Trini is a very unique language. With that i argree with you.I alos think it should be preserved. Should it be mainstream it already is ,d ais hwo we talk. We use standard enlgish to commuicate formally, we use trini everyday.
I cant see a colonial mentaility.  Trini is a native language your right, but its still in use. We cannot use trini to communicate formally dat doesnt make sense problem. especially when dealing with other countries.
not practical

That's why I said its good to be Bi-lingual ...so when it comes to dealing with other countries we will speak their language.(or get ah damn translator like what most countries do!)..I'm sure the Haitian President or Venezuelan President cant speak all languages...and ah man say we should not have our own language because we just have about one million people...now that's a very narrow-minded way of thiinking.... but when my generation reaches in authority all of this shit would change because we see ourselves as Trinibagonians first then everything else comes after...the way we speak and the way we live has to revolve around our traditions and culture..what other people or countries think is not more important...the authorities today were born in a different generation...they idolise the foreign way of thinking instead of just accepting that we have evolved into our own unique way of life (which includes the way we speak and live)

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I believe we Trinbagonians should acknowlege our Trini language as ah standard and seperate language (like spanish, English, French..etc)...Ah doh believe we language is English and people who keep on sayin dat eh facing reality...Haiti language is rooted from french but their authorities has classified it as ah sperate standard language because its not French..Ah lot of Trini words are not rooted from de English language....I do believe English should be taught in schools like Spanish because in dis day and age its beneficial to be bi-lingual.....De local media should start printin in we native tongue and someone should print ah Trinbagonian dictionary......Our language is one of de main tings dat seperate we from de rest of de world and something we should cherish and be proud about....wat is allyuh opinion?

So you think we should formalise a language that only 1 million people would speak and, by making it our first language, effectively separating us from the rest of the world (in your words) and making international communication and business near impossible?

Rather than learn a genuinely useful foreign language, we should just invent one?



We do not have to formalise a language we already have our own language..its just not acknowleged as our main language..Its not like am saying everyone should go and learn how to speak what we already speaking everday in T&T LOL....The country is already speaking its native tongue but the authorities dont want to accept our native tongue as the main language...dem rather say "no we use to be colonised by england so our first languge will be English"...then our native tongue language will always just be spoken in websites like these and in party and fetes...But never in the newspapers or you will never hear a journalist speaking our native tongue on Television...(take a good look at Haiti and you will see how patriotic they are about their creole language)...and like I said before.. nothing is wrong with learning English because its beneficial to be bi-lingual...
Yeh and you dont see anything wrong with Trinbago using a foreign language as our main language?.(especially when we have our own native language) That's just a colonised mentality!!..

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I want to hear from them experts on this subject. 

I not convinced there is this Trini native tongue thing that is much different from the evolution that occurs even in places within Britain itself....the US, Canada and wherever else.

So would you say Canada native tongue is not English (other than the French part).

I not familiar with the main difference between American English and British English other than some spelling.

Language is dynamic and I am all for studyng it and building up our knowledge base on it but I dunno about printing dialect in the papers (other than opinion pieces from people like Keith Smith if you like his style)

So what about the whole Ebonics debate then?
YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU KEEP SAYING DIALECT!!..The authorities convince most people in T&T that we speak English but just with a dialect..If you know how to speak the English language then you will know that the English language and what we speak in Trini is not the same..and MY POINT is that we speak our own LANGUAGE...Go back and read my earlier responses where I said alot of words in our Language does not even exist in the English language. what we speak cannot be written or said in English either.....How old were you when you left T&T?..
Yeh and ebonics is 100% slang

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What are the Pros and Cons of this idea?

That's my point it should not even be an idea...It's something that should have been done a long time ago....I understand its important for us to be bi-lingual hence the reason I will agree that English should be taught in our schools.....but English is NOT our first language in T&T....de authorities keep saying that the language we speak (our native tongue) in T&T is English.(and if you can speak English then you will know they are mis-leading the people)....and de media keep publishing in  English...wha wrong in printing in we own patriotic native tongue!....I dont think it will change anytime soon because we have men in authority who are stuck in that 1960's and 1970's mentality (colonised mentality) and think we have to follow other countries instead of seeing we have own own unique ting...

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and may i ask what do you propose we call our language??????

in Japan they speak Japaneese..in England they speak English..so in Trinbago we speak Trinbagonian (or trinidadian/tobagonian)...and watevah name de language is called is nuh de most important ting on de agenda..

Wen a foreigner ask me what language do we mainly speak in my home country .I always say Trini..becuase I've learned the English language I know Trini and English is nuh de same (Its not pronounced and  not even writtten the same)..and alot of words in our language does not exist in de English language...but de older heads in authority still livin in denial...dem still holding on to dat colonised mentailty...for those who dont know ..we were independent since 1962...we could make our own rules..

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Ah readin these post here and  somehow ah havin the feelin that this man have sometin personal against ato , jus my oponion.
Zulu, you have de winning Powerball numbers man ;) ;)


Hmmm its obvious some people having something personal against Machel....The man just saying he had nothing to do with the incident but some people see it as "he trying to take he name off de heat"...*shakes head*...Now if he is guilty I believe he should do the Time..but I will not jump to conclusions...Now I can bet my last dollar the Trinbagonians who are fast to attack Machel before looking at the issue on both sides are around the age of 40 and older....Alot of the older generations did not like the way the man sing and therefore think they now find a reason to attack the man...Now am going to listen to his song "what they say dey say"

I took the liberty to edit your post, I am sure you meant Time.... ;) (I hope)
;D...I am going to re-edit that part of my response..

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