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General Discussion / Nothing like.......
« on: April 05, 2008, 09:41:24 PM »
A cold CARIB on a winter's day like today in Alberta.
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152
General Discussion / Bring back the Love
« on: April 05, 2008, 11:45:18 AM »
"Where Is The Love?"
What's wrong with the forum people?
People talking like they ain't got no love no more
Every thread is full of drama
Postings seems to be attracted to things that'll bring trauma
Football talk of overseas players taking away from locals
putting restrictions on how many as oppose to propping up the country
Where is the love for each individual?
Frustrations boiling over to antagonism against some Jamaicans
Notice some people stop posting
‘cause all others do is keep on attacking
Why we so? some call it pecong but sometimes it doh look so
This forum at one time was so sweet now it appears to be full of heat
Where is the respect for ones’ opinions?
Can’t we agree to respectfully disagree?
One nation, one country one people
Just coming to communicate why the hate?
Certain posters become targets of rage
While others continue to rant as if they are the forum sage
If some eh like yuh post , man running to kill it down
How we will ever get along?
Ole talk use to be sweet
Now we only looking to beat down one another with heat
Upmanship, showmanship, bravado
Bring back the respect; bring back the ole talk bring back the familiar posters to the forum
We could show pride without ethnocentrism
We have a community to serve all yet some in here looking for props
At the expense of others?
Where is the love?
Where is the respect?
Where is the support for fellow man?
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about self idolotry makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
Now ask yourself
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
What's wrong with the forum people?
People talking like they ain't got no love no more
Every thread is full of drama
Postings seems to be attracted to things that'll bring trauma
Football talk of overseas players taking away from locals
putting restrictions on how many as oppose to propping up the country
Where is the love for each individual?
Frustrations boiling over to antagonism against some Jamaicans
Notice some people stop posting
‘cause all others do is keep on attacking
Why we so? some call it pecong but sometimes it doh look so
This forum at one time was so sweet now it appears to be full of heat
Where is the respect for ones’ opinions?
Can’t we agree to respectfully disagree?
One nation, one country one people
Just coming to communicate why the hate?
Certain posters become targets of rage
While others continue to rant as if they are the forum sage
If some eh like yuh post , man running to kill it down
How we will ever get along?
Ole talk use to be sweet
Now we only looking to beat down one another with heat
Upmanship, showmanship, bravado
Bring back the respect; bring back the ole talk bring back the familiar posters to the forum
We could show pride without ethnocentrism
We have a community to serve all yet some in here looking for props
At the expense of others?
Where is the love?
Where is the respect?
Where is the support for fellow man?
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about self idolotry makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
Now ask yourself
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
153
Jokes / A woman's world?
« on: March 13, 2008, 05:24:46 PM »
WOMAN'S PERFECT BREAKFAST
She's sitting at the table with her gourmet coffee.
Her son is on the cover of the Wheaties box.
Her daughter is on the cover of Business Week.
Her boyfriend is on the cover of Playgirl.
And her husband is on the back of the milk carton.
Keep reading-they get better!!!
________________________________
WOMEN'S REVENGE
'Cash, check or charge?' I asked, after folding items the woman wished
to purchase.
As she fumbled for her wallet , I noticed a remote control for a
television set in her purse.
'So, do you always carry your TV remote?' I asked.
'No,' she replied, 'but my husband refused to come shopping with me,
and I figured this was the most evil thing I could do to him legally.'
________________________________
UNDERSTANDING WOMEN
(A MAN'S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I'm not going to understand women.
I'll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax,
pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the root,
and still be afraid of a spider.
________________________________
MARRIAGE SEMINAR
While attending a Marriage Seminar dealing with communication,
Tom and his wife Grace listened to the instructor,
'It is essential that husbands and wives know each other's likes and
dislikes.'
He addressed the man,
'Can you name your wife's favorite flower?'
Tom leaned over, touched his wife's arm gently and whispered, 'It's
Pillsbury, isn't it?
________________________________
CIGARETTES AND TAMPONS
A man walks into a pharmacy and wanders up & down the aisles.
The sales girl notices him and asks him if she can help him.
He answers that he is looking for a box of tampons for his wife.
She directs him down the correct aisle.
A few minutes later, he deposits a huge bag of cotton balls and a ball
of string on the counter.
She says, confused, 'Sir, I thought you were looking for some tampons
for your wife?
He answers, 'You see, it's like this, yesterday, I sent my wife to the
store
to get me a carton of cigarettes, and she came back with a tin of
tobacco
and some rolling papers; cause it's sooo-ooo--oo-ooo much cheaper.
So, I figure if I have to roll my own .......... so does she.
(I figure this guy is the one on the milk carton!)
________________________________
WIFE VS. HUSBAND
A couple drove down a country road for several miles, not saying a word.
An earlier discussion had led to an argument and
neither of them wanted to concede their position.
As they passed a barnyard of mules, goats, and pigs,
the husband asked sarcastically, 'Relatives of yours?'
'Yep,' the wife replied, 'in-laws.'
________________________________
WORDS
A husband read an article to his wife about how many words women use a
day...
30,000 to a man's 15,000.
The wife replied, 'The reason has to be because we have to repeat
everything to men...
The husband then turned to his wife and asked, 'What?'
________________________________
CREATION
A man said to his wife one day, 'I don't know how you can be
so stupid and so beautiful all at the same time.
'The wife responded, 'Allow me to explain.
God made me beautiful so you would be attracted to me;
God made me stupid so I would be attracted to you !
________________________________
WHO DOES WHAT
A man and his wife were having an argument about who
should brew the coffee each morning.
The wife said, 'You should do it because you get up first,
and then we don't have to wait as long to get our coffee.
The husband said, 'You are in charge of cooking around here and
you should do it, because that is your job, and I can just wait for my
coffee.'
Wife replies, 'No, you should do it, and beside s, it is in the Bible
that the man should do the coffee.'
Husband replies, 'I can't believe that, show me.'
So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament and showed him at
the top of several pages, that it indeed says . 'HEBREWS'
________________________________
The Silent Treatment
A man and his wife were having some problems at home
and were giving each other the silent treatment.
Suddenly, the man realized that the next day, he would need his wife to
wake him
at 5:0 0 AM for an early morning business flight.
Not wanting to be the first to break the silence (and LOSE), he wrote on
a piece of paper,
'Please wake me at 5:00 AM .' He left it where he knew she would find
it.
The next morning, the man woke up, only to discover it was 9:00 AM and
he had missed his flight Furious, he was about to go and see why his
wife hadn't wakened him,
when he noticed a piece of paper by the bed.
The paper said, 'It is 5:00 AM . Wake up.'
Men are not equipped for these kinds of contests.
God may have created man before woman, but there is always a rough draft
before the masterpiece
She's sitting at the table with her gourmet coffee.
Her son is on the cover of the Wheaties box.
Her daughter is on the cover of Business Week.
Her boyfriend is on the cover of Playgirl.
And her husband is on the back of the milk carton.
Keep reading-they get better!!!
________________________________
WOMEN'S REVENGE
'Cash, check or charge?' I asked, after folding items the woman wished
to purchase.
As she fumbled for her wallet , I noticed a remote control for a
television set in her purse.
'So, do you always carry your TV remote?' I asked.
'No,' she replied, 'but my husband refused to come shopping with me,
and I figured this was the most evil thing I could do to him legally.'
________________________________
UNDERSTANDING WOMEN
(A MAN'S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I'm not going to understand women.
I'll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax,
pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the root,
and still be afraid of a spider.
________________________________
MARRIAGE SEMINAR
While attending a Marriage Seminar dealing with communication,
Tom and his wife Grace listened to the instructor,
'It is essential that husbands and wives know each other's likes and
dislikes.'
He addressed the man,
'Can you name your wife's favorite flower?'
Tom leaned over, touched his wife's arm gently and whispered, 'It's
Pillsbury, isn't it?
________________________________
CIGARETTES AND TAMPONS
A man walks into a pharmacy and wanders up & down the aisles.
The sales girl notices him and asks him if she can help him.
He answers that he is looking for a box of tampons for his wife.
She directs him down the correct aisle.
A few minutes later, he deposits a huge bag of cotton balls and a ball
of string on the counter.
She says, confused, 'Sir, I thought you were looking for some tampons
for your wife?
He answers, 'You see, it's like this, yesterday, I sent my wife to the
store
to get me a carton of cigarettes, and she came back with a tin of
tobacco
and some rolling papers; cause it's sooo-ooo--oo-ooo much cheaper.
So, I figure if I have to roll my own .......... so does she.
(I figure this guy is the one on the milk carton!)
________________________________
WIFE VS. HUSBAND
A couple drove down a country road for several miles, not saying a word.
An earlier discussion had led to an argument and
neither of them wanted to concede their position.
As they passed a barnyard of mules, goats, and pigs,
the husband asked sarcastically, 'Relatives of yours?'
'Yep,' the wife replied, 'in-laws.'
________________________________
WORDS
A husband read an article to his wife about how many words women use a
day...
30,000 to a man's 15,000.
The wife replied, 'The reason has to be because we have to repeat
everything to men...
The husband then turned to his wife and asked, 'What?'
________________________________
CREATION
A man said to his wife one day, 'I don't know how you can be
so stupid and so beautiful all at the same time.
'The wife responded, 'Allow me to explain.
God made me beautiful so you would be attracted to me;
God made me stupid so I would be attracted to you !
________________________________
WHO DOES WHAT
A man and his wife were having an argument about who
should brew the coffee each morning.
The wife said, 'You should do it because you get up first,
and then we don't have to wait as long to get our coffee.
The husband said, 'You are in charge of cooking around here and
you should do it, because that is your job, and I can just wait for my
coffee.'
Wife replies, 'No, you should do it, and beside s, it is in the Bible
that the man should do the coffee.'
Husband replies, 'I can't believe that, show me.'
So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament and showed him at
the top of several pages, that it indeed says . 'HEBREWS'
________________________________
The Silent Treatment
A man and his wife were having some problems at home
and were giving each other the silent treatment.
Suddenly, the man realized that the next day, he would need his wife to
wake him
at 5:0 0 AM for an early morning business flight.
Not wanting to be the first to break the silence (and LOSE), he wrote on
a piece of paper,
'Please wake me at 5:00 AM .' He left it where he knew she would find
it.
The next morning, the man woke up, only to discover it was 9:00 AM and
he had missed his flight Furious, he was about to go and see why his
wife hadn't wakened him,
when he noticed a piece of paper by the bed.
The paper said, 'It is 5:00 AM . Wake up.'
Men are not equipped for these kinds of contests.
God may have created man before woman, but there is always a rough draft
before the masterpiece
154
Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Lawd look at Police beak away
« on: March 03, 2008, 08:21:53 PM »
Wonderful fusion of British and TNT cultures expressed through music. But eheh look at Police breaking away!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR_dZtK6eXc&NR=1
Part two is on the right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR_dZtK6eXc&NR=1
Part two is on the right.
155
Football / Football Cups of the Caribbean
« on: February 03, 2008, 02:04:05 PM »
Small island Cup: Bermuda, Cayman Is. St. Kitts etc...
Big Island Cup: TNT Cuba, Haiti etc...
Want a Cup: Barbados, St. Vincent etc....
4cups: Jamaica
Big Island Cup: TNT Cuba, Haiti etc...
Want a Cup: Barbados, St. Vincent etc....
4cups: Jamaica
156
Jokes / shit happens...
« on: January 29, 2008, 10:49:20 PM »
Confucianism: Confucius says "Shit happens".
Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit.
Zen: What is the sound of shit happening?
Hinduism: This shit has happened before.
Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserve it.
Protestantism: Let the shit happen to someone else.
Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.
Judaism: Why does shit always happen to us?
Sufism: The wise man never notices shit happening.
Solipsism: Shit happens because I wish it.
Mysticism: Just experience shit happening.
Asceticism: If shit happens, renounce it.
Agnosticism: Nobody knows why shit happens.
Gnosticism: I know why shit happens but won't tell you.
Atheism: Shit just happens and that's all there is to it.
Cartesianism: Shit happens to me, therefore I exist.
Platonism: There is ideal shit happening somewhere.
Stoicism: I don't care if shit happens.
Epicureanism: Let's party while shit doesn't happen.
Cynicism: Yes, of course shit happens.
Occultism: Shit materializes from other planes of existence.
Terrorism: Shit will happen unless you do as I say.
Pollyanaism: It's so nice that shit happens!
Puritanism: S** can happen all day as long as you don't call it that.
Behaviorism: You are conditioned to having shit happen.
Freudianism: If shit happens, it's your mother's fault.
Parapsychology: Shit happens without material causes.
Surrealism: Purple shit happens near melting clocks.
Cubism: If shit happens, you won't recognize it.
Cultural relativism: Shit happens everywhere differently.
Optimism: If shit happens, let's find a way to use it.
Pessimism: If shit happens, there won't be enough for everybody.
Tabloid Sensationalism: Green Shit from Mars Happens to Elvis Clone!
Biblical Creationism: Shit happens because God created it.
Secular Humanism: Shit happens because it evolved from primordial shit.
Scientific Reductionism: If shit happens, find out what kind exactly.
Scientific Obscurantism: Amorphous excrement does occur in given cases.
Bureaucracy: I don't care if shit happens as long as you fill out the forms.
Feminism: Women demand to have shit happen to them also.
Ecology: As long as the shit is organic, it's OK.
Capitalism: How can we profit from shit happening?
Socialism: If shit happens, we must distribute it equally.
Conservatism: They don't make even shit happen like they used to.
Patriotism: Our shit is better than your shit.
Classical Physics: Shit does not 'happen', it just moves around.
Quantum Physics: Shit happens but you can't say both where and when.
Holistic Physics: If shit happens, it happens everywhere at once.
Microcomputing: If shit happens, we'll fix it in the next version.
Computer Science: All shit can, in principle, happen on a Turing Machine.
Applied Mathematics: The probability of shit happening approaches unity.
Engineering: When shit happens, just paint it over.
Medicine: If shit happens, take two aspirins and call me in the morning.
Economics: Shit happens because there is a demand for it.
Diplomacy: Let's pretend shit doesn't happen.
Politics: If shit happens, make a deal with it.
Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit.
Zen: What is the sound of shit happening?
Hinduism: This shit has happened before.
Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserve it.
Protestantism: Let the shit happen to someone else.
Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.
Judaism: Why does shit always happen to us?
Sufism: The wise man never notices shit happening.
Solipsism: Shit happens because I wish it.
Mysticism: Just experience shit happening.
Asceticism: If shit happens, renounce it.
Agnosticism: Nobody knows why shit happens.
Gnosticism: I know why shit happens but won't tell you.
Atheism: Shit just happens and that's all there is to it.
Cartesianism: Shit happens to me, therefore I exist.
Platonism: There is ideal shit happening somewhere.
Stoicism: I don't care if shit happens.
Epicureanism: Let's party while shit doesn't happen.
Cynicism: Yes, of course shit happens.
Occultism: Shit materializes from other planes of existence.
Terrorism: Shit will happen unless you do as I say.
Pollyanaism: It's so nice that shit happens!
Puritanism: S** can happen all day as long as you don't call it that.
Behaviorism: You are conditioned to having shit happen.
Freudianism: If shit happens, it's your mother's fault.
Parapsychology: Shit happens without material causes.
Surrealism: Purple shit happens near melting clocks.
Cubism: If shit happens, you won't recognize it.
Cultural relativism: Shit happens everywhere differently.
Optimism: If shit happens, let's find a way to use it.
Pessimism: If shit happens, there won't be enough for everybody.
Tabloid Sensationalism: Green Shit from Mars Happens to Elvis Clone!
Biblical Creationism: Shit happens because God created it.
Secular Humanism: Shit happens because it evolved from primordial shit.
Scientific Reductionism: If shit happens, find out what kind exactly.
Scientific Obscurantism: Amorphous excrement does occur in given cases.
Bureaucracy: I don't care if shit happens as long as you fill out the forms.
Feminism: Women demand to have shit happen to them also.
Ecology: As long as the shit is organic, it's OK.
Capitalism: How can we profit from shit happening?
Socialism: If shit happens, we must distribute it equally.
Conservatism: They don't make even shit happen like they used to.
Patriotism: Our shit is better than your shit.
Classical Physics: Shit does not 'happen', it just moves around.
Quantum Physics: Shit happens but you can't say both where and when.
Holistic Physics: If shit happens, it happens everywhere at once.
Microcomputing: If shit happens, we'll fix it in the next version.
Computer Science: All shit can, in principle, happen on a Turing Machine.
Applied Mathematics: The probability of shit happening approaches unity.
Engineering: When shit happens, just paint it over.
Medicine: If shit happens, take two aspirins and call me in the morning.
Economics: Shit happens because there is a demand for it.
Diplomacy: Let's pretend shit doesn't happen.
Politics: If shit happens, make a deal with it.
157
Football / Sources of Inspiration; First black British footballer
« on: January 27, 2008, 03:27:13 PM »
Let's find some inspiring stories to convey ; stories that would recall highlights and achievements rather than the continuing saga of today's rant on these saga boy footballers parading around with ornamental wives.
Not that ah go tun meh back if one ah them woman skin up in front ah meh!!!!!! but at the same time leh we see what others had to sacrifice so that today's player could live freely , choose freely and parade about like a prize fighter.
http://www.black-history-month.co.uk/articles/andrew_watson.html
Anymore stories of firsts
......
Not that ah go tun meh back if one ah them woman skin up in front ah meh!!!!!! but at the same time leh we see what others had to sacrifice so that today's player could live freely , choose freely and parade about like a prize fighter.
http://www.black-history-month.co.uk/articles/andrew_watson.html
Anymore stories of firsts
......
158
Football / Let's make a statement aganist Guadeloupe: Open trials v trial by invitation
« on: January 27, 2008, 10:22:05 AM »
The game against PR should identify potential strengths and weakness in our line up. In looking at a TNT side which was comprised of younger players and mostly locally based, it would be good to hear from the coaches as to who were some of the standouts for us in that game.
For the next game, it maybe beneficial to see a squad comprising of most of most experienced players. There is no reason why we cannot field an experienced goalie; defense. midfielders (BIRCHALL given his work ethic and experience ought to be included). On the wing and up front we have a very pool to choose from.
I understand the need to experiment with different players and see what depth there is but I also think that we need to STOP the nonsense around BLACKLISTING; FAVOURTISM (What Daddy thinks) and put the FOCUS where it should be on FOOTBALL dominance. Players who desire to represent TNT in 2010 MUST be given the opportunity to attend trials, must be given an opportunity to play and must commit to TNT.
Do we want to get into a panic mode like the last set of qualifiers? waiting to the final round, the final game and playing from behind to qualify? Let's literally put our best foot forward and make it physically and mentally challenging for opposing teams when they face the MIGHTY TNT WARRIORS.
Let's not give any team an edge when they face us. Our lineup alone should create doubts for others.
For those coaches and team management, let's put aside the past atrocities, egos and move forward with our national team...please for the love of the game , the players, and the country.
For the next game, it maybe beneficial to see a squad comprising of most of most experienced players. There is no reason why we cannot field an experienced goalie; defense. midfielders (BIRCHALL given his work ethic and experience ought to be included). On the wing and up front we have a very pool to choose from.
I understand the need to experiment with different players and see what depth there is but I also think that we need to STOP the nonsense around BLACKLISTING; FAVOURTISM (What Daddy thinks) and put the FOCUS where it should be on FOOTBALL dominance. Players who desire to represent TNT in 2010 MUST be given the opportunity to attend trials, must be given an opportunity to play and must commit to TNT.
Do we want to get into a panic mode like the last set of qualifiers? waiting to the final round, the final game and playing from behind to qualify? Let's literally put our best foot forward and make it physically and mentally challenging for opposing teams when they face the MIGHTY TNT WARRIORS.
Let's not give any team an edge when they face us. Our lineup alone should create doubts for others.
For those coaches and team management, let's put aside the past atrocities, egos and move forward with our national team...please for the love of the game , the players, and the country.
159
General Discussion / Who was the Prime Minister when you....
« on: January 20, 2008, 05:43:33 PM »
Who was the Prime Minister of TNT when you....were born?
160
Football / Name ah Coach Thread ;-)
« on: January 05, 2008, 09:40:16 AM »
"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s"
How does one keep politics separate from football?
I often wonder how the TTFF Special Advisor (is he advising or dictating?) is able to convince coaches to venture into a perilous position.......coaching in TNT? Are these appointments for the general good of football or are they designed to propagate a political position?
I am drawn to Shakespeare's play Juilus Caesar as I reflect on the themes of ambition, and the yearning for power by our own Prince Machavelli. it also reflects how miscommunication both in the form of deception and self-deception, is endemic not only in the action of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar but may also be in the process of selecting a national coach.
Imagine if you will a scene with the special advisor offering the coaching reins to someone:
" And then he offered it the third time. He put it the third time by; and still as he refused it, the rabblement hooted and clapped their chopt hands, and threw up their sweaty nightcaps, and uttered such a deal of stinking breath"
Are we the rabblement that hoots and howls at every appointment as though a Saviour has landed in our midst?
With all due respect to the now present (flavour of the day) senior coach it behoves me to be objective in seeking out clarity as to the process and thinking which goes into appointing a coach in TNT. Without stating the obvious everyone could possibly surmise that Mr. Warner is the anointed ‘brain thrust’ (tongue in cheek) behind each selection. But what is the long term impact of the manner of these selections on the sustainability and growth of our football program, and our capacity to develop knowledge and expertise among our local players and coaches?
In previous WC campaigns prior to 2007, we met with relative success but again the tradition of changing coaches continued.
How is it that countries like Costa Rica and Mexico are able to consistently achieve success with local coaches? Is it the system they employ or is it their football program? Or the football ethos which seems to thrive in those countries? Did Beenhakker’s success give rise to a paradigm switch in our selection mandate for the national men’s team? Do we now put more faith in the style or system of an international expert over our own?
Tia Turner in her song asked the question 'what does love have to do with it; it is a second hand emotion? well what does style or system of play have do do with it? Does it matter? as long as the players you have could achieve success playing with what is being implemented.
If one was to objectively examine Bertille St Clair’s prior success before the WC qualifying debacle would it not be worthy of merit? Paradoxically, his successor’s imminent success has now seems to give rise to a thinking that in order for us to be successful, we need to have an international coach with prior success. Reflect on the appointment of Wim after the WC? Was there not some clandestine meeting abroad and the next thing you know Wim is at the helm. Supporters clamoured with glee at the possibility of continuity under the prior regime. With the naming of A.Corneal, some folks again were ready to praise the appointment as one that deserves merit; now in comes Francisco Maturana. We are still uncertain as to whether he is adorned with the title of fulltime coach till 2010 or interim.
How would TNT nationals like, Anton Corneal, Latapy, Stephan Hart or any others who may one day in the future aspire to achieve success as a national coach ever be given that opportunity? Would they have to seek opportunities elsewhere and prove their success before an opportunity is given to them in their homeland? Would it be a ‘crying shame’ for TNT if Corneal was to take Barbados or St. Kitts to the World Cup? This man has been a bridesmaid for many; only a bride for a short period. One would think that he has learned and has acquired some knowledge under the tutelage of prior coaches.
I ask the question is the present coaching selection one that is thoughtfully and intentionally done so as to sustain our program, players and local coaches or is it one that is strives for serendipitous success?
Would history repeat itself and would Maturana join the list of TTFF coaching merry go –round or would we among the elite in South Africa in 2010? Welcome to the world on TNT football Maturana.
TTFF's coaching merry-go-round.
Stuart Fevrier named new T&T Head Coach.
By Shaun Fuentes.
15-May-2003 - The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation, on Thursday, announced prominent local-based coach Stuart Charles Fevrier as Head Coach of the Trinidad and Tobago National Senior and Olympic teams for a four-year period in the first instance.
T&T Express Reports.
16-Jan-2004 - The TTFF are notoriously restless in the period surrounding the World Cup qualifying campaign.
Starworld Strikers coach and celebrated past national player, Everald "Gally" Cummings, was the last coach to be allowed to lead his team throughout a qualifying campaign when he took the "Strike Squad" to within a point of the 1990 World Cup tournament.
Another local coach, Edgar Vidale, led the national team for their short lived 1994 campaign although he was made junior to Brazilian Clovis D'Oliviera at a crucial juncture.
For the 1998 qualifiers, the technical bench was cramped for space as a then unprecedented number of coaches, technical directors and advisors were employed.
Yugoslav Zoran Vranes ran the first leg before being replaced by Brazilian Sebastiao de Pereira after just one match in the CONCACAF semi-final stage.
However, Cummings, Look Loy and Kenny Joseph also played significant roles during the course of the campaign.
National head coach Bertille St Clair was axed one week before the first 2002 World Cup qualifying game after FIFA vice-president and T&TFF special advisor Jack Warner said he was dissatisfied with their returns of a Gold Cup semi-final place.
His replacement, Scotsman Ian Porterfield, was demoted to head coach below Brazilian Rene Simoes while Vranes and Corneal were also brought in to assist. Porterfield eventually lost the job outright to the Brazilian.
Fevrier, a success at Pro League team Vibe CT 105 W Connection, was termed "a quintessential Caribbean man" by Warner when he was selected to lead the team into the 2006 campaign last May. Eight months later, the TTFF have had another change of heart.
Hannibal Najjar falls on his sword.
By Lasana Liburd.
01.Apr.03 - Trinidad and Tobago national football team technical director and head coach Hannibal Najjar had his term brought to an abrupt end yesterday on April Fools' Day.
Najjar, who accepted the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) post last October, failed to guarantee the “Soca Warriors” an automatic place in the 2003 CONCACAF Gold Cup after falling 3-1 to Cuba at the Manny Ramjohn Stadium, Marabella last Sunday.
The T&TFF yesterday announced Najjar’s resignation via a press release, which further stated that ex-Joe Public coach, Zoran Vranes, would be returned to serve as interim coach.
Warriors go from St Clair to Beenhakker.
By: Lasana Liburd - T&T Express.
03-Apr-2005 - If only they had fired Bertille St Clair sooner. Surely I am not the only one thinking it. But my feelings have less to do with St Clair's reign than the possibilities offered by his replacement.
How much sweeter it is to swoon over Beenhakker's resume than to discuss St Clair's perceived shortcomings. Three Spanish titles at the helm of Real Madrid, three Dutch league crowns, a World Cup finals appearance with Holland (1990), while he got Saudi Arabia to the 1994 edition for the first time in their history-they showed their gratitude by sacking him before the tournament started because of their dislike for his training methods.
He even has experience of CONCACAF superpowers, Mexico, after joining Club America as coach for the 1994-95 season. Again, he was sacked. Ostensibly for failing to win silverware, although there were rumours that he threw a club director from his dressing room.
The 62-year-old Dutchman is the most accomplished coach ever to lead out a Trinidad and Tobago outfit and he deserves every opportunity to fulfill his mission, which is to take the artists-formerly-known-as-the-Soca Warriors into the Germany 2006 World Cup tournament.
Spare a thought for St Clair who, like Hannibal Najjar two years ago, was crudely replaced on April Fool's Eve. It is a date that local coaches with international aspirations might want to write into their calendars. Then, Najjar reiterated his commitment to the job and willingness to continue at the same time that the T&TFF was faxing his resignation to the various media houses.
St Clair discovered he was sacked on his way to a team meeting with his employers via a radio broadcast. How would you feel if you turned up for work and saw someone sitting in your desk and your family pictures in a cardboard box while everyone tried to avoid eye contact?
I do not think St Clair would have taken T&T to the World Cup. I felt he did not enjoy the full support of T&TFF technical director Lincoln "Tiger" Phillips, who questioned his tactics too freely in public or the Football Federation, who subjected him to a humiliating "public symposium" last November. And I believe he was in danger of losing the dressing room by his tactical meandering.
His failure to settle on a team system, a strike partnership or a holding midfielder was also a distraction.
But I also believe that St Clair does not deserve to be called a flop. He left the team in a better shape than he got it, just like he did in his first stint five years ago.
Birmingham City striker Dwight Yorke, Trinidad and Tobago's most successful and best player, is back in the fold and committed enough to sacrifice his attacking instincts by playing a midfield role, while Portsmouth goalkeeper Shaka Hislop also agreed to lend his calming influence to the squad-on and off the field.
At the local level, the players were again taught to respect the national shirt and the merit of graft and discipline. Anton Pierre and Denzil Theobold emerged better for it, as did Clayton Ince, Stern John and Dale Saunders during his first spell as head coach.
In 2000, Scotsman Ian Porterfield took over a team in a rich vein of form after an unprecedented top-four finish at the CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament.
It was St Clair's rotten luck to twice run first leg rather than anchor, but it is to his credit that he was asked to run in the first place and he did not disgrace himself on either occasion.
His final record is 35 games played with 18 wins, three draws and 14 losses, which makes him the first coach to end with more wins than draws and losses since Porterfield, who was sacked on June 25, 2001.
Trinidad and Tobago managed just one point from a possible nine in their first three final round World Cup qualifiers but that is not an unusual position for the twin island republic.
Porterfield got one point from five outings before Warner's patience ran out. They are the only three coaches to lead the T&TFF into the final CONCACAF qualifying round since the 1974 World Cup campaign. St Clair did not ask for the job-he was summoned to serve his country, did his best and should be thanked for his efforts.
Perhaps he was the chosen one.
The king is dead...hail the king.
Rijsbergen looking forward to 2010 challenge.
By: Shaun Fuentes.
Newly appointed National Team senior coach Wim Rijsbergen says he’s relishing the challenge of leading the national team towards South Africa 2010 but moreso helping this country to maintain the momentum it picked up following its qualification and subsequent performance at the 2006 World Cup Finals in Germany.
Just one day following the announcement of his new position Rijsbergen said he was already drawing up plans to assist in the development of the youth system and the senior team.
I am delighted to be able to take up the position as head coach of Trinidad and Tobago. One of the good things about this is that while I also had to look past some of the other offers which came my way for jobs after the World Cup, the fact that I already had some involvement with Trinidad and that we had already worked towards something and I know what it’s like there now, and after discussing with Mr Warner, I said the decision to remain here was something I was looking forward to, Rijsbergen told TTFF Media on Wednesday.
How does one keep politics separate from football?
I often wonder how the TTFF Special Advisor (is he advising or dictating?) is able to convince coaches to venture into a perilous position.......coaching in TNT? Are these appointments for the general good of football or are they designed to propagate a political position?
I am drawn to Shakespeare's play Juilus Caesar as I reflect on the themes of ambition, and the yearning for power by our own Prince Machavelli. it also reflects how miscommunication both in the form of deception and self-deception, is endemic not only in the action of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar but may also be in the process of selecting a national coach.
Imagine if you will a scene with the special advisor offering the coaching reins to someone:
" And then he offered it the third time. He put it the third time by; and still as he refused it, the rabblement hooted and clapped their chopt hands, and threw up their sweaty nightcaps, and uttered such a deal of stinking breath"
Are we the rabblement that hoots and howls at every appointment as though a Saviour has landed in our midst?
With all due respect to the now present (flavour of the day) senior coach it behoves me to be objective in seeking out clarity as to the process and thinking which goes into appointing a coach in TNT. Without stating the obvious everyone could possibly surmise that Mr. Warner is the anointed ‘brain thrust’ (tongue in cheek) behind each selection. But what is the long term impact of the manner of these selections on the sustainability and growth of our football program, and our capacity to develop knowledge and expertise among our local players and coaches?
In previous WC campaigns prior to 2007, we met with relative success but again the tradition of changing coaches continued.
How is it that countries like Costa Rica and Mexico are able to consistently achieve success with local coaches? Is it the system they employ or is it their football program? Or the football ethos which seems to thrive in those countries? Did Beenhakker’s success give rise to a paradigm switch in our selection mandate for the national men’s team? Do we now put more faith in the style or system of an international expert over our own?
Tia Turner in her song asked the question 'what does love have to do with it; it is a second hand emotion? well what does style or system of play have do do with it? Does it matter? as long as the players you have could achieve success playing with what is being implemented.
If one was to objectively examine Bertille St Clair’s prior success before the WC qualifying debacle would it not be worthy of merit? Paradoxically, his successor’s imminent success has now seems to give rise to a thinking that in order for us to be successful, we need to have an international coach with prior success. Reflect on the appointment of Wim after the WC? Was there not some clandestine meeting abroad and the next thing you know Wim is at the helm. Supporters clamoured with glee at the possibility of continuity under the prior regime. With the naming of A.Corneal, some folks again were ready to praise the appointment as one that deserves merit; now in comes Francisco Maturana. We are still uncertain as to whether he is adorned with the title of fulltime coach till 2010 or interim.
How would TNT nationals like, Anton Corneal, Latapy, Stephan Hart or any others who may one day in the future aspire to achieve success as a national coach ever be given that opportunity? Would they have to seek opportunities elsewhere and prove their success before an opportunity is given to them in their homeland? Would it be a ‘crying shame’ for TNT if Corneal was to take Barbados or St. Kitts to the World Cup? This man has been a bridesmaid for many; only a bride for a short period. One would think that he has learned and has acquired some knowledge under the tutelage of prior coaches.
I ask the question is the present coaching selection one that is thoughtfully and intentionally done so as to sustain our program, players and local coaches or is it one that is strives for serendipitous success?
Would history repeat itself and would Maturana join the list of TTFF coaching merry go –round or would we among the elite in South Africa in 2010? Welcome to the world on TNT football Maturana.
TTFF's coaching merry-go-round.
Stuart Fevrier named new T&T Head Coach.
By Shaun Fuentes.
15-May-2003 - The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation, on Thursday, announced prominent local-based coach Stuart Charles Fevrier as Head Coach of the Trinidad and Tobago National Senior and Olympic teams for a four-year period in the first instance.
T&T Express Reports.
16-Jan-2004 - The TTFF are notoriously restless in the period surrounding the World Cup qualifying campaign.
Starworld Strikers coach and celebrated past national player, Everald "Gally" Cummings, was the last coach to be allowed to lead his team throughout a qualifying campaign when he took the "Strike Squad" to within a point of the 1990 World Cup tournament.
Another local coach, Edgar Vidale, led the national team for their short lived 1994 campaign although he was made junior to Brazilian Clovis D'Oliviera at a crucial juncture.
For the 1998 qualifiers, the technical bench was cramped for space as a then unprecedented number of coaches, technical directors and advisors were employed.
Yugoslav Zoran Vranes ran the first leg before being replaced by Brazilian Sebastiao de Pereira after just one match in the CONCACAF semi-final stage.
However, Cummings, Look Loy and Kenny Joseph also played significant roles during the course of the campaign.
National head coach Bertille St Clair was axed one week before the first 2002 World Cup qualifying game after FIFA vice-president and T&TFF special advisor Jack Warner said he was dissatisfied with their returns of a Gold Cup semi-final place.
His replacement, Scotsman Ian Porterfield, was demoted to head coach below Brazilian Rene Simoes while Vranes and Corneal were also brought in to assist. Porterfield eventually lost the job outright to the Brazilian.
Fevrier, a success at Pro League team Vibe CT 105 W Connection, was termed "a quintessential Caribbean man" by Warner when he was selected to lead the team into the 2006 campaign last May. Eight months later, the TTFF have had another change of heart.
Hannibal Najjar falls on his sword.
By Lasana Liburd.
01.Apr.03 - Trinidad and Tobago national football team technical director and head coach Hannibal Najjar had his term brought to an abrupt end yesterday on April Fools' Day.
Najjar, who accepted the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) post last October, failed to guarantee the “Soca Warriors” an automatic place in the 2003 CONCACAF Gold Cup after falling 3-1 to Cuba at the Manny Ramjohn Stadium, Marabella last Sunday.
The T&TFF yesterday announced Najjar’s resignation via a press release, which further stated that ex-Joe Public coach, Zoran Vranes, would be returned to serve as interim coach.
Warriors go from St Clair to Beenhakker.
By: Lasana Liburd - T&T Express.
03-Apr-2005 - If only they had fired Bertille St Clair sooner. Surely I am not the only one thinking it. But my feelings have less to do with St Clair's reign than the possibilities offered by his replacement.
How much sweeter it is to swoon over Beenhakker's resume than to discuss St Clair's perceived shortcomings. Three Spanish titles at the helm of Real Madrid, three Dutch league crowns, a World Cup finals appearance with Holland (1990), while he got Saudi Arabia to the 1994 edition for the first time in their history-they showed their gratitude by sacking him before the tournament started because of their dislike for his training methods.
He even has experience of CONCACAF superpowers, Mexico, after joining Club America as coach for the 1994-95 season. Again, he was sacked. Ostensibly for failing to win silverware, although there were rumours that he threw a club director from his dressing room.
The 62-year-old Dutchman is the most accomplished coach ever to lead out a Trinidad and Tobago outfit and he deserves every opportunity to fulfill his mission, which is to take the artists-formerly-known-as-the-Soca Warriors into the Germany 2006 World Cup tournament.
Spare a thought for St Clair who, like Hannibal Najjar two years ago, was crudely replaced on April Fool's Eve. It is a date that local coaches with international aspirations might want to write into their calendars. Then, Najjar reiterated his commitment to the job and willingness to continue at the same time that the T&TFF was faxing his resignation to the various media houses.
St Clair discovered he was sacked on his way to a team meeting with his employers via a radio broadcast. How would you feel if you turned up for work and saw someone sitting in your desk and your family pictures in a cardboard box while everyone tried to avoid eye contact?
I do not think St Clair would have taken T&T to the World Cup. I felt he did not enjoy the full support of T&TFF technical director Lincoln "Tiger" Phillips, who questioned his tactics too freely in public or the Football Federation, who subjected him to a humiliating "public symposium" last November. And I believe he was in danger of losing the dressing room by his tactical meandering.
His failure to settle on a team system, a strike partnership or a holding midfielder was also a distraction.
But I also believe that St Clair does not deserve to be called a flop. He left the team in a better shape than he got it, just like he did in his first stint five years ago.
Birmingham City striker Dwight Yorke, Trinidad and Tobago's most successful and best player, is back in the fold and committed enough to sacrifice his attacking instincts by playing a midfield role, while Portsmouth goalkeeper Shaka Hislop also agreed to lend his calming influence to the squad-on and off the field.
At the local level, the players were again taught to respect the national shirt and the merit of graft and discipline. Anton Pierre and Denzil Theobold emerged better for it, as did Clayton Ince, Stern John and Dale Saunders during his first spell as head coach.
In 2000, Scotsman Ian Porterfield took over a team in a rich vein of form after an unprecedented top-four finish at the CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament.
It was St Clair's rotten luck to twice run first leg rather than anchor, but it is to his credit that he was asked to run in the first place and he did not disgrace himself on either occasion.
His final record is 35 games played with 18 wins, three draws and 14 losses, which makes him the first coach to end with more wins than draws and losses since Porterfield, who was sacked on June 25, 2001.
Trinidad and Tobago managed just one point from a possible nine in their first three final round World Cup qualifiers but that is not an unusual position for the twin island republic.
Porterfield got one point from five outings before Warner's patience ran out. They are the only three coaches to lead the T&TFF into the final CONCACAF qualifying round since the 1974 World Cup campaign. St Clair did not ask for the job-he was summoned to serve his country, did his best and should be thanked for his efforts.
Perhaps he was the chosen one.
The king is dead...hail the king.
Rijsbergen looking forward to 2010 challenge.
By: Shaun Fuentes.
Newly appointed National Team senior coach Wim Rijsbergen says he’s relishing the challenge of leading the national team towards South Africa 2010 but moreso helping this country to maintain the momentum it picked up following its qualification and subsequent performance at the 2006 World Cup Finals in Germany.
Just one day following the announcement of his new position Rijsbergen said he was already drawing up plans to assist in the development of the youth system and the senior team.
I am delighted to be able to take up the position as head coach of Trinidad and Tobago. One of the good things about this is that while I also had to look past some of the other offers which came my way for jobs after the World Cup, the fact that I already had some involvement with Trinidad and that we had already worked towards something and I know what it’s like there now, and after discussing with Mr Warner, I said the decision to remain here was something I was looking forward to, Rijsbergen told TTFF Media on Wednesday.
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Football / 2010 World Cup campaign......Kick start
« on: January 02, 2008, 07:47:26 PM »
With an international friendly planned for Ash Wednesday against Guadeloupe, when exactly will we hear of plans for training camp, players invited and a schedule leading up to the first playoff games in June?
Is Venezuela a formidable possibility?
Is Venezuela a formidable possibility?
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General Discussion / Any New Year's resolutions?
« on: January 01, 2008, 08:36:07 PM »
Well it's 2008; all the best to all who are part of this online community. Anyone made resolutions for the new year?
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General Discussion / Where do you think the start of the New Year will catch yuh?
« on: December 29, 2007, 04:07:07 PM »
Well ah just came back from Mexico!!!!! ah blast parang music fuh so fuh them Mexicans. Funny in the part of Mexico I visited (Isla Mujeres: "isle of women!!!!!!"), I did not hear or witnessed any parang celebrations or the sort. One family friend from Vera Cruz Mexico, identified strongly with the parang tradition. He even remembered some of the classic tunes
(I eh hit dem any Scrunter or Crazy; ah only played 'true Daisy and 'Spanish classics) . As he said his family sang and participated in this tradition; He called it parande (sic).
It hindsight , I realized that it was like taking one kind of music or tradition from one part of a country and hoping that it would be reflective of all cultures with that heritage. I now understand that parang is not endemic to all Spanish cultures. It has a bit of a more folk and traditional placement in areas which cultivated that celebration.
Ok so with that said, ah still had Mexicans wanting a copy of meh CD.
So leh meh hear where people think the coming ah the New Year go meet yuh? I eh asking fuh Rat tuh leh we in on fantasies.
(I eh hit dem any Scrunter or Crazy; ah only played 'true Daisy and 'Spanish classics) . As he said his family sang and participated in this tradition; He called it parande (sic).
It hindsight , I realized that it was like taking one kind of music or tradition from one part of a country and hoping that it would be reflective of all cultures with that heritage. I now understand that parang is not endemic to all Spanish cultures. It has a bit of a more folk and traditional placement in areas which cultivated that celebration.
Ok so with that said, ah still had Mexicans wanting a copy of meh CD.
So leh meh hear where people think the coming ah the New Year go meet yuh? I eh asking fuh Rat tuh leh we in on fantasies.
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Football / Why some ah TNT ballers look so thin?
« on: December 15, 2007, 01:16:42 PM »
Looking at them youth players and even some ah the senior players who were at the Gold Cup, ah notice them men and them looking so fragile and thin thin? ah think we players need to develop more of a physical presence.
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General Discussion / So what people doing for Christmas?
« on: December 15, 2007, 01:12:57 PM »
Ah gone tuh Mexico!!!!!!!! On Friday; ah taking meh parang tapes and ah blasting TNT parang on the beaches and all about!!!!! salsa meet soca!!!!!!!
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Football / ah find it starnge sometimes.....
« on: December 01, 2007, 12:49:44 PM »
It appears at times when ah man post ah thread that is when people respond to every other thread with little one liners . It appears that the intent is tuh 'kill ah man'' thread? so that it goes down the page.... funny what issues some people see as important..... and hear nah if yuh eh have one ah dem red pencil marks next tuh yuh thread if man eh interested in yuh posting yuh ideas done as gone.
Is that how this thing does wuck?
Is that how this thing does wuck?
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General Discussion / When visiting Trinidad and Tobago your favourite liming spot is....
« on: December 01, 2007, 12:28:00 PM »
For me have to be Arima; have to say from the eyes of a youth to now the scenery around the Dial has changed.
Use to be I would leave Sando and the High Street lime just about every weekend head to Duke Street POS and then to relatives in Arima.
Arima had to have the most 'Spanish' looking females at that time in the early 60's. Now the blends just flow freely in that small but thriving community.
Use to be I would leave Sando and the High Street lime just about every weekend head to Duke Street POS and then to relatives in Arima.
Arima had to have the most 'Spanish' looking females at that time in the early 60's. Now the blends just flow freely in that small but thriving community.
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Football / Professional obligation...National representation and Financial compensation
« on: December 01, 2007, 12:21:16 PM »
Does anyone know the contractual obligation a professional player is under when he choses to represent his country?
Is there an agreement between the team and the country to compensate the player if there is an injury?
Is the player compensated for loss of wages by the country from the team when he is representing his country?
Is the cost of the player salary shared at the time he is away representing his country between country and team?
Is the money the player earns from representing his country, extra wages over and beyond what he is earning from his club? Is this money taxable?
If the country stands to profit and is financially rewarded from games' revenue, what percentage of this should be awarded to the players after team cost( meals, daily per diem, housing, uniforms, coaches' staff salary etc) is calculated?
Is there a contractual system in place between the TTFF and the players outlining players' financial
benefits when they chose to represent country?
Is there an agreement between the team and the country to compensate the player if there is an injury?
Is the player compensated for loss of wages by the country from the team when he is representing his country?
Is the cost of the player salary shared at the time he is away representing his country between country and team?
Is the money the player earns from representing his country, extra wages over and beyond what he is earning from his club? Is this money taxable?
If the country stands to profit and is financially rewarded from games' revenue, what percentage of this should be awarded to the players after team cost( meals, daily per diem, housing, uniforms, coaches' staff salary etc) is calculated?
Is there a contractual system in place between the TTFF and the players outlining players' financial
benefits when they chose to represent country?
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General Discussion / Yuh know so and so....? versus whey yuh from?
« on: December 01, 2007, 09:25:15 AM »
In starting this I am going back to the the question which could be an irritant when yuh living abroad:
Whey yuh from? or a starting conversation piece when yuh home? " what part of south yuh from? yuh know......" So 'peeps' leh we see if and how some people may connect in here?
'SOUTH MAN'
Born: Marabella (circa early 50's).......family moved to Vistabella (attended a primary school there 60's)...... moved to Victoria Village/Pleasantville (school late 60's).......then flipping Canada (early 70's)
Now every time ah back home is all time spent with family in North east .......Valencia and in the North West : Glenco side.
Ok ah ready to answer if ah know so and so....
Whey yuh from? or a starting conversation piece when yuh home? " what part of south yuh from? yuh know......" So 'peeps' leh we see if and how some people may connect in here?
'SOUTH MAN'
Born: Marabella (circa early 50's).......family moved to Vistabella (attended a primary school there 60's)...... moved to Victoria Village/Pleasantville (school late 60's).......then flipping Canada (early 70's)
Now every time ah back home is all time spent with family in North east .......Valencia and in the North West : Glenco side.
Ok ah ready to answer if ah know so and so....
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Football / Developing A Solution Focus for Trinidad and Tobago Football
« on: November 25, 2007, 10:10:12 AM »
DEVELOPING A SOLUTION FOCUS for our present football woes.
Focus on the positive: We have demonstrated that even with a chaotic organization we could qualify for WC; Imagine if we had a very adept, well organized and properly maintained organization leading the campaign( this would be part of the solution)? What would the future look like?
Change is occurring all the time, and small changes can lead to larger changes: The unifying of our players and the FPATT's work in seeking to maintain the welfare of player's rights and dignity is a positive beginning to solidify our campaign under a new regime.
Appreciate that we have all the internal resources you need to solve the problem: We do have a talented player pool from which we could develop a formidable team under the right guidance, management and leadership.
Steps
1. Make each of our goals a moving picture: How would our team look if the morale was high and everyone was dedicated to taking TNT to South Africa? What if we had a s agoal the building of local expertise and capacity to get us there?
When the problem is solved, what will our football organization be doing? After the present TTFF personel realize that ineptness is no longer a strategy, what will this organization look like?
What would others say we will we be doing? Will others give us the respectability to command a domineering presence in Caribbean football?
How specifically will we be doing this?
*
2. Is the solution already happening and could we do more of it?
Could we recall times of success in TNT football? These were exceptional days when the problems of today did not seem as magnanimous -- times when it was not a problem -- How did our footballers make success happen?
Who do we need to observe that acts in ways that reflect our solution?
In what ways can we do the same, and do more of it?
Focus on the positive: We have demonstrated that even with a chaotic organization we could qualify for WC; Imagine if we had a very adept, well organized and properly maintained organization leading the campaign( this would be part of the solution)? What would the future look like?
Change is occurring all the time, and small changes can lead to larger changes: The unifying of our players and the FPATT's work in seeking to maintain the welfare of player's rights and dignity is a positive beginning to solidify our campaign under a new regime.
Appreciate that we have all the internal resources you need to solve the problem: We do have a talented player pool from which we could develop a formidable team under the right guidance, management and leadership.
Steps
1. Make each of our goals a moving picture: How would our team look if the morale was high and everyone was dedicated to taking TNT to South Africa? What if we had a s agoal the building of local expertise and capacity to get us there?
When the problem is solved, what will our football organization be doing? After the present TTFF personel realize that ineptness is no longer a strategy, what will this organization look like?
What would others say we will we be doing? Will others give us the respectability to command a domineering presence in Caribbean football?
How specifically will we be doing this?
*
2. Is the solution already happening and could we do more of it?
Could we recall times of success in TNT football? These were exceptional days when the problems of today did not seem as magnanimous -- times when it was not a problem -- How did our footballers make success happen?
Who do we need to observe that acts in ways that reflect our solution?
In what ways can we do the same, and do more of it?
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Jokes / ANGER MANAGEMENT
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:17:39 PM »ANGER MANAGEMENT
Husband: "When I get mad at you, you never fight back. How do you control your anger?"
Wife: "I clean the toilet .."
Husband: "How does that help?"
Wife: "I use your toothbrush."
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General Discussion / How yuh learn bout 'rudeness or the art of 'S..x'
« on: October 05, 2007, 11:05:03 PM »
Yuh know in the days preceeding computres ( which was really only about 15b yeras ago). So leh meh say in the years preceeding T.V. in swett TNT. Radio and limimng outside and listening to older people was part of the oral education of many.
Months now ah trying tuh recall ah old time calypso dat must have srtated many ah games between boys and girls: it went something like this:
dyen dyen come leh we play mammy and daddy
you is the mammy and i go be the daddy
leh we go tuh bed
and when we wake up tomorrow
we go mind little popo
now is ah real old tune yes and the exact lyrics elude me but ah know it go have some body here who will know the lyrics and the singer and may even have ah version on 'you tube.
that song as a little boy had me trying to reenact the lyrics yes!!!
Months now ah trying tuh recall ah old time calypso dat must have srtated many ah games between boys and girls: it went something like this:
dyen dyen come leh we play mammy and daddy
you is the mammy and i go be the daddy
leh we go tuh bed
and when we wake up tomorrow
we go mind little popo
now is ah real old tune yes and the exact lyrics elude me but ah know it go have some body here who will know the lyrics and the singer and may even have ah version on 'you tube.
that song as a little boy had me trying to reenact the lyrics yes!!!
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Football / 2010 Warriors coaching staff : Lack of friendlies etc
« on: September 17, 2007, 12:39:56 AM »
All's quiet on the TTFF front? While other countries are basking in the limelight of friendly competitions, what are we doing? Yes same old same old.......NOTHING.. 'false positives' of alleged friendlies that never realize; and the beat goes on.....
Even Canada pulled of a friendly with a very interesting team line up...... more team members of probably West Indian heritage... My feelings is Stephen Hart could probably bring out the best of these players.....but then again like the fate which Stehpen Ames suffered, he did not get anointed as head coach...it was given to a 'born Canadian"......
Which leads to some future speculation ......imagine our coaching and organizational line up for 2010:
Head coach: Stephen Hart
Assistants: Russel Latapy & Dwight Yorke
Tech: Shaka
Head of TTFF : L. Phillips
Assistant : D.Skeene
Ok all you soccer pundits, start listing the team for 2010: Here are the core; who else would you add?
Strikers: J. Scotland; K. Jones; D. Roberts
Midfielders: C.Edwards.
Even Canada pulled of a friendly with a very interesting team line up...... more team members of probably West Indian heritage... My feelings is Stephen Hart could probably bring out the best of these players.....but then again like the fate which Stehpen Ames suffered, he did not get anointed as head coach...it was given to a 'born Canadian"......
Which leads to some future speculation ......imagine our coaching and organizational line up for 2010:
Head coach: Stephen Hart
Assistants: Russel Latapy & Dwight Yorke
Tech: Shaka
Head of TTFF : L. Phillips
Assistant : D.Skeene
Ok all you soccer pundits, start listing the team for 2010: Here are the core; who else would you add?
Strikers: J. Scotland; K. Jones; D. Roberts
Midfielders: C.Edwards.
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General Discussion / Why Halle Berry sounding so desperate
« on: August 16, 2007, 08:27:41 PM »
Ah think she take ah sympathy....... cause she feel she 'time clock' running out. Darn if she wanted a successful relationship why de ...she did not goggle meh?
She is one ah dem woman that went looking for love in all the wrong places; dial me 1-416-6545
Halle Berry is rumoured to be two months pregnant with boyfriend Gabriel Aubry's baby.
Halle Berry
Halle Berry
(BANG) - Halle Berry is two months pregnant, it has been claimed.
The 'X-Men' star - who turned 41 this week - has wanted to become a mother for some time and is said to be delighted after discovering she is expecting model boyfriend Gabriel Aubry's baby.
A source told National Enquirer magazine: "Halle is so happy right now. She's wanted a baby for so long.
"But at the same time she's scared because she is very aware of the complications that having diabetes can cause during pregnancy. She's doing everything possible to make sure her baby is born healthy."
According to medical experts, diabetes increases the risk of miscarriage, stillbirth and birth defects, but with proper care Halle has every chance of having a healthy baby.
The Oscar-winning star said earlier this year: "Having children is my next big project. I'm planning on becoming pregnant by the end of the year - it's my age, it's only natural.
"If it can't happen naturally, Gabriel and I will adopt."
Halle has made no secret of her yearning for motherhood, and vowed to get pregnant before she turned 40 last August.
She told US chat show host Oprah Winfrey: "If there's no serious man in my life when I get to that age, whoever I'm dating at the time, I'll say, 'Hey, would you like to have a baby?' "
Halle even contemplated artificial insemination before she started dating Gabriel, who at 32 is nine years her junior.
She said last year: "It looks like the only option I have left is to head for the sperm bank! I've been so desperately unlucky in love and that has thwarted my desire for motherhood. It's so frustrating. I really yearn for a child and I can't wait much longer."
Having a baby is ah project!!!!!! why did I not tender a bid?
She is one ah dem woman that went looking for love in all the wrong places; dial me 1-416-6545
Halle Berry is rumoured to be two months pregnant with boyfriend Gabriel Aubry's baby.
Halle Berry
Halle Berry
(BANG) - Halle Berry is two months pregnant, it has been claimed.
The 'X-Men' star - who turned 41 this week - has wanted to become a mother for some time and is said to be delighted after discovering she is expecting model boyfriend Gabriel Aubry's baby.
A source told National Enquirer magazine: "Halle is so happy right now. She's wanted a baby for so long.
"But at the same time she's scared because she is very aware of the complications that having diabetes can cause during pregnancy. She's doing everything possible to make sure her baby is born healthy."
According to medical experts, diabetes increases the risk of miscarriage, stillbirth and birth defects, but with proper care Halle has every chance of having a healthy baby.
The Oscar-winning star said earlier this year: "Having children is my next big project. I'm planning on becoming pregnant by the end of the year - it's my age, it's only natural.
"If it can't happen naturally, Gabriel and I will adopt."
Halle has made no secret of her yearning for motherhood, and vowed to get pregnant before she turned 40 last August.
She told US chat show host Oprah Winfrey: "If there's no serious man in my life when I get to that age, whoever I'm dating at the time, I'll say, 'Hey, would you like to have a baby?' "
Halle even contemplated artificial insemination before she started dating Gabriel, who at 32 is nine years her junior.
She said last year: "It looks like the only option I have left is to head for the sperm bank! I've been so desperately unlucky in love and that has thwarted my desire for motherhood. It's so frustrating. I really yearn for a child and I can't wait much longer."
Having a baby is ah project!!!!!! why did I not tender a bid?
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Football / FIFA monitoring bets
« on: August 16, 2007, 08:37:40 AM »Makes me wonder about the some of the refereeing against TNT versus England game and Sweden. Ah wonder if 'big man' in TTFF was ever involved? ummm.....
FIFA to monitor bets
Keeping eye on World Cup qualifiers
ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) - FIFA is expanding its system for monitoring sports betting to prevent match-fixing scandals in qualifying for the 2010 World Cup.
Soccer's world governing body said Thursday it had set up an independent company in Zurich - called Early Warning System - to monitor betting patterns when World Cup qualifying begins later this year.
FIFA said the project is part of efforts "to safeguard the integrity of the game" and "prevent sports betting from having any negative impact on football matches."
FIFA said it will sign contracts with bookmakers and betting companies requiring them to report any irregular betting activities.
FIFA spokesman Andreas Herren said the move was intended to prevent match-fixing scandals such as those which rocked German and Brazilian soccer in recent years.
German referee Robert Hoyzer was convicted in November 2005 of rigging 23 matches on behalf of a betting ring. And in 2005 a Brazilian referee, Edilson Pereira de Carvalho, confessed to accepting bribes from gamblers to ensure the outcomes of games.
Herren said match-fixing was not a new phenomenon, "but with the Internet and new media technologies it has taken on a new dimension."
FIFA set up a betting monitoring system before the 2006 World Cup in Germany and used it throughout the tournament. The same will be used for the 2010 tournament in South Africa.
"The long-term idea is obviously that the system will then become available also to confederations and national associations," Herren said.
Under FIFA ethics rules, officials, players and players' agents are forbidden from betting on matches or having a stake in companies engaged in betting.
FIFA's latest move comes amid investigations into betting in the NBA and men's tennis.
Former NBA referee Tim Donaghy pleaded guilty Wednesday to two felony charges in a scandal that rocked the league and tarnished the integrity of the sport. He allegedly bet on games, including some he officiated.
The ATP is investigating suspicious betting patterns on a match in Poland between low-ranked Martin Vassallo Arguello of Argentina and top-seeded Nikolay Davydenko of Russia, who retired in the third set with an injury.
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General Discussion / Ames take a hit!!!
« on: August 15, 2007, 08:43:03 AM »
Last night I happened to catch a sports show from Toronto: "The Fan" One topic was the omission of Stephen Ames from the President's cup- a golf tournament which pits an international golf team against an American team led by Tiger Woods.
The commentators were discussing with Stephen Ames his possible reasons for being not named as the CANADIAN representative considering the fact that in the recently concluded PGA he made the final cut ahead of Mike Weir. Mike Wier was knocked in round 11 and was not even close.
One announcer asked Stephen how he felt and if he felt slighted. Another question they posed was if his involvement with sponsoring a golf tournament in his native Trinidad and Tobago had an impact on the selector;s decision. Is to hear Ames backpedaling and trying to be politically savvy. The kicker of the question they asked the man was this: DOES THIS OMISSION MAKES YOU FEEL LESS OF A CANADIAN THAN MIKE WIER?
Ah wonder if Stephen Ames was born in Canada if they would be posing such a question? Ah this tell people that no matter how long yuh live in this country, rarely would you get the acknowledgment that you are a 'true blue Canadian' Sometimes you living in this country longer than some people who born here but yet one may find subtle and not so subtle forms of exclusion.
Well Mr. Ames, the next time you stand up and proclaming Canadian make sure you put ah little Trini in yuh talk!!!! I understand the reason now why some folks go through the denial of heritage; research and studies have cleared that up. For awhile in my work with Caribbean associations I could not understand this. I could not understand why some parents would have their kids miss steel pan practice because the kids had a piano lesson!!!! Well Ames yuh get a shake up. Allyuh go see from this experience how Ames go be talking more about he TNT heritage. This was the event which would ground him back to where he came from instead of walking around saying yes I am. a Canuck..... It happens.
Doh forget the famous question: Whey yuh from?
The commentators were discussing with Stephen Ames his possible reasons for being not named as the CANADIAN representative considering the fact that in the recently concluded PGA he made the final cut ahead of Mike Weir. Mike Wier was knocked in round 11 and was not even close.
One announcer asked Stephen how he felt and if he felt slighted. Another question they posed was if his involvement with sponsoring a golf tournament in his native Trinidad and Tobago had an impact on the selector;s decision. Is to hear Ames backpedaling and trying to be politically savvy. The kicker of the question they asked the man was this: DOES THIS OMISSION MAKES YOU FEEL LESS OF A CANADIAN THAN MIKE WIER?
Ah wonder if Stephen Ames was born in Canada if they would be posing such a question? Ah this tell people that no matter how long yuh live in this country, rarely would you get the acknowledgment that you are a 'true blue Canadian' Sometimes you living in this country longer than some people who born here but yet one may find subtle and not so subtle forms of exclusion.
Well Mr. Ames, the next time you stand up and proclaming Canadian make sure you put ah little Trini in yuh talk!!!! I understand the reason now why some folks go through the denial of heritage; research and studies have cleared that up. For awhile in my work with Caribbean associations I could not understand this. I could not understand why some parents would have their kids miss steel pan practice because the kids had a piano lesson!!!! Well Ames yuh get a shake up. Allyuh go see from this experience how Ames go be talking more about he TNT heritage. This was the event which would ground him back to where he came from instead of walking around saying yes I am. a Canuck..... It happens.
Doh forget the famous question: Whey yuh from?
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Jokes / under new management
« on: August 13, 2007, 12:41:33 PM »
Given the new management style,please take time to review the new policies:
NEW OFFICE POLICY
Dress Code:
1) You are advised to come to work dressed according to your salary.
2) If we see you wearing Prada shoes and carrying a Gucci bag, we will assume you are doing well financially and therefore do not need a raise.
3) If you dress poorly, you need to learn to manage your money better, so that you may buy nicer clothes, and therefore you do not need a raise.
4) If you dress just right, you are right where you need to be and therefore you do not need a raise.
Sick Days:
We will no longer accept a doctor's statement as proof of sickness. If you are able to go to the doctor, you are able to come to work.
Personal Days:
Each employee will receive 104 personal days a year. They are called Saturdays & Sundays.
Bereavement Leave:
This is no excuse for missing work. There is nothing you can do for dead friends, relatives or co-workers. Every effort should be made to have non-employees attend the funeral arrangements in your place. In rare cases where employee involvement is necessary, the funeral should be scheduled in the late afternoon. We will be glad to allow you to work through your lunch hour and subsequently leave one hour early.
Bathroom Breaks:
Entirely too much time is being spent in the toilet. There is now a strict three-minute time limit in the stalls. At the end of three minutes, an alarm will sound, the toilet paper roll will retract, the stall door will open, and a picture will be taken. After your second offense, your picture will be posted on the company bulletin board under the "Chronic Offenders" category. Anyone caught smiling in the picture will be sectioned under the company's mental health policy.
Lunch Break: (Love this one)
* Skinny people get 30 minutes for lunch, as they need to eat more, so that they can look healthy.
* Normal size people get 15 minutes for lunch to get a balanced meal to maintain their average figure.
* Chubby people get 5 minutes for lunch, because that's all the time needed to drink a Slim-Fast.
Thank you for your loyalty to our company. We are here to provide a positive employment experience. Therefore, all questions, comments, concerns, complaints, frustrations, irritations, aggravations, insinuations, allegations, accusations, contemplations, consternation and input should be directed elsewhere.
NEW OFFICE POLICY
Dress Code:
1) You are advised to come to work dressed according to your salary.
2) If we see you wearing Prada shoes and carrying a Gucci bag, we will assume you are doing well financially and therefore do not need a raise.
3) If you dress poorly, you need to learn to manage your money better, so that you may buy nicer clothes, and therefore you do not need a raise.
4) If you dress just right, you are right where you need to be and therefore you do not need a raise.
Sick Days:
We will no longer accept a doctor's statement as proof of sickness. If you are able to go to the doctor, you are able to come to work.
Personal Days:
Each employee will receive 104 personal days a year. They are called Saturdays & Sundays.
Bereavement Leave:
This is no excuse for missing work. There is nothing you can do for dead friends, relatives or co-workers. Every effort should be made to have non-employees attend the funeral arrangements in your place. In rare cases where employee involvement is necessary, the funeral should be scheduled in the late afternoon. We will be glad to allow you to work through your lunch hour and subsequently leave one hour early.
Bathroom Breaks:
Entirely too much time is being spent in the toilet. There is now a strict three-minute time limit in the stalls. At the end of three minutes, an alarm will sound, the toilet paper roll will retract, the stall door will open, and a picture will be taken. After your second offense, your picture will be posted on the company bulletin board under the "Chronic Offenders" category. Anyone caught smiling in the picture will be sectioned under the company's mental health policy.
Lunch Break: (Love this one)
* Skinny people get 30 minutes for lunch, as they need to eat more, so that they can look healthy.
* Normal size people get 15 minutes for lunch to get a balanced meal to maintain their average figure.
* Chubby people get 5 minutes for lunch, because that's all the time needed to drink a Slim-Fast.
Thank you for your loyalty to our company. We are here to provide a positive employment experience. Therefore, all questions, comments, concerns, complaints, frustrations, irritations, aggravations, insinuations, allegations, accusations, contemplations, consternation and input should be directed elsewhere.
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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Break-up chunes :Tabanca Time
« on: August 12, 2007, 07:20:14 PM »
Okok leh we reminisce with the tunes that are most often associated with a break up: Just so ah sitting down and tune start tuh play well look nah ah pulling out vinyl and just going back in time.
'Never can say Goodbye"
"Being with You" Smokey Robinson
"Touch me in the Morning" D.Ross
"The Love I lost"- Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes
"You don't have to say you love me"
"You will never find" Lou Rawles
Break up to Make up" Stylistics
"Didn't you Blow my Mind this time"
"Stone out of my Mind" Chi Lites
"Unchained Melody"- Al Green
"Have you seen her?" Chi Lites
"Love don't live here anymore" Rose Royce
"Use to be my Girl"
"Sitting on the dock of the Bay"
"Walk Away"
"Walk on By" check out Issac Hayes version
"And the Beat goes on" The Whispers
"One of a Kind Love Affairs" The Spinners
"I'll be Around" Spinners
"Unbreak my Heart" Toni Braxton
"Breathe Again" Toni Braxton
"Killing me softly": Roberta Flack
"Why do Fools fall in love"
"I want you back" j5
"The great Pretender"
"Love don't love nobody" Spinners
Working my way back to you" Spinners
"Don't leave me this way" Thelma Houston
"What does it Take" Jr. Walker and All Stars
"I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor
"Kiss And Say Goodbye "- The Manhattans
"Band Of Gold" - Freda Payne
"Chain Of Fools" - Aretha Franklin
"Someday We'll Be Together"- Mary Wilson
'Never can say Goodbye"
"Being with You" Smokey Robinson
"Touch me in the Morning" D.Ross
"The Love I lost"- Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes
"You don't have to say you love me"
"You will never find" Lou Rawles
Break up to Make up" Stylistics
"Didn't you Blow my Mind this time"
"Stone out of my Mind" Chi Lites
"Unchained Melody"- Al Green
"Have you seen her?" Chi Lites
"Love don't live here anymore" Rose Royce
"Use to be my Girl"
"Sitting on the dock of the Bay"
"Walk Away"
"Walk on By" check out Issac Hayes version
"And the Beat goes on" The Whispers
"One of a Kind Love Affairs" The Spinners
"I'll be Around" Spinners
"Unbreak my Heart" Toni Braxton
"Breathe Again" Toni Braxton
"Killing me softly": Roberta Flack
"Why do Fools fall in love"
"I want you back" j5
"The great Pretender"
"Love don't love nobody" Spinners
Working my way back to you" Spinners
"Don't leave me this way" Thelma Houston
"What does it Take" Jr. Walker and All Stars
"I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor
"Kiss And Say Goodbye "- The Manhattans
"Band Of Gold" - Freda Payne
"Chain Of Fools" - Aretha Franklin
"Someday We'll Be Together"- Mary Wilson
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Football / who is TNT most consistent striker in league play?
« on: August 11, 2007, 04:18:28 PM »
In reviewing all the threads "Trinis in action" it appears that Jason Scotland is currently the most consistent 'GOAL Scoring' striker throughout the season.
Should this player not be given more opportunities to start for TNT? Speaking of which, I notice that Canada is arranging for some international friendlies, when will TNT attempt to arrange some friendlies?
A home and away with Venezuela?
Alright so we 'star boys' till on a 'black list' ummm leh we say ah 'white piece of paper so maybe we could play: Guyana? Turks and Cacios? Samoa? India? maybe even one against BVIs.? Leh we rack up some wins!!!!
Should this player not be given more opportunities to start for TNT? Speaking of which, I notice that Canada is arranging for some international friendlies, when will TNT attempt to arrange some friendlies?
A home and away with Venezuela?
Alright so we 'star boys' till on a 'black list' ummm leh we say ah 'white piece of paper so maybe we could play: Guyana? Turks and Cacios? Samoa? India? maybe even one against BVIs.? Leh we rack up some wins!!!!
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Football / TNT: Reclaiming all Warriors for 2010 W.C. developmental camps
« on: August 11, 2007, 10:11:14 AM »
I would like to humbly propose to the TTFF a concept that may be slightly 'forward thinking' realizing fully well that for the TTFF this may be a stretch. What would it look like if the TTFF were to establish routine, camps in the following locations:
U.K. .for all available European based players and those of TNT heritage.
( list possible players to include:
North America: for all available North American based players and those of TNT heritage
list possible players to include:
TnT: for all locally based players.
list possible players to include:
Instead of bringing players to Trinidad, the coaches established travel to these camps and work with all players who qualify to represent TNT and who may be interested in tryouts. These player identification camps will allow for more exposure and access for potential players. Players will not have to travel to TNT for tryouts. Possible savings on player cost.
From these camps, three separate teams could be established and they could compete against local teams in their respective locale. The best players from these teams would then be selected for the main national team.
I believe is time for TTFF to get a little more creative and to go out to these players rather than to rely on players who ply their trade abroad to come with open arms to represent TTFF. I would also think that this would go along way to bring about a new image for the TTFF.
U.K. .for all available European based players and those of TNT heritage.
( list possible players to include:
North America: for all available North American based players and those of TNT heritage
list possible players to include:
TnT: for all locally based players.
list possible players to include:
Instead of bringing players to Trinidad, the coaches established travel to these camps and work with all players who qualify to represent TNT and who may be interested in tryouts. These player identification camps will allow for more exposure and access for potential players. Players will not have to travel to TNT for tryouts. Possible savings on player cost.
From these camps, three separate teams could be established and they could compete against local teams in their respective locale. The best players from these teams would then be selected for the main national team.
I believe is time for TTFF to get a little more creative and to go out to these players rather than to rely on players who ply their trade abroad to come with open arms to represent TTFF. I would also think that this would go along way to bring about a new image for the TTFF.