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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 27, 2011, 01:19:40 PM »
Tight game. Hard luck about the result. Towards the end Arsenal looked like they would take it but Foster was a hero. Then Szczesny and Koscielny hit de self destruct button. Question to the Man U fans on de thread. Why the hell Fergie get rid of Foster?

I doh know boy. Gunners must be the unluckiest team in history. This getting to be like "Neverkusen".

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Football / Re: Bundesliga
« on: February 26, 2011, 04:38:06 PM »
How allyuh does watch bundesliga games? I always like seein those teams play in CL and wanted to watch the big game today. I hear BVB runnin some real good ball but I want to see for myself. And of course I like to watch Bayern when I can.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 26, 2011, 04:32:01 PM »
ok ok

real nervous about tomorrow

Birmingham quiet and can do the business

but i hoping the lads will give it all and blood sweat and tears to win this for themselves, for cesc n theo, for wenger, for the club, for the fans

we need this so bad

probably wont sleep tonight


 :rotfl:
Relax man. Nothing we can do about it. Gunners gotta do de business. Arsene better know!

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 24, 2011, 02:40:17 PM »
Arsenal.com just announced Fabregas out of the Carling Cup Final.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 24, 2011, 10:14:07 AM »
Arsenal look good for a few trophies this year. They are playing well and any slip-up from United and I think the league is theirs.

thing is the league is almost Manu to lose, but they only have 3 "hard games" in the league
Arsenal away and Chelski home n away

i mean lose all three and they drop 9 points but its highly unlikely they will
that also means arsenal have to beat them and that would mean arsenalmade the league thiers

thing is arsenal now learning to win ugly and manu just dont seem able to lose except to wolves

its tight man city could go on a run if manu and arsenal slip
chelski maybe and spurs as a dark dark outside over the horizon horse


anyway i focused on sunday, hoping cesc is well to play and doesnt risk the rest of the season
Arsenal have no right missing out on Carling Cup even without Theo and Cesc. I agree it may not make sense playing Cesc even if he thinks he is fit. Not saying beating Birmingham will be easy, but d side should be able to do it. They need Koscielny and van Persie back fit though. Any word on those two?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 21, 2011, 06:22:57 PM »
Chamakk to me becoming like Ebouie contented to be the 2nd string that is so much shit to me!
The 2nd string team so poor boy wow!
You dissing Eboue. The man play decent against Barca.
Despite how he play against Barca he doesn't fight sagna for that spot look at his other performances.
Nobody eh dissing the man.
Point taken. He too inconsistent. But we know all the second string (except maybe Denilson and Squillaci) capable of better.

I like this Miquel fella. He and Gibbs make a rookie mistake on the goal but that was his only real mistake. I just hope he gets more time with the first team and doh get the "second-string-itis"

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 21, 2011, 12:51:53 PM »
Chamakk to me becoming like Ebouie contented to be the 2nd string that is so much shit to me!
The 2nd string team so poor boy wow!
You dissing Eboue. The man play decent against Barca.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 21, 2011, 11:01:35 AM »
hard luck stunner  :angel: , im sure alyuh go finish them off next leg
Yeah they almost get away with it
Haven't seen the game but one thing if certain arsenal second string sucks

Well yuh eh miss much, but I will say this Bendtner, Chamak, Arshavin, Denilson were very disappointing. The field did not help their passing game and force them to play very slow. No excuse though for limiting their attacks to through the middle, where the numbers did not allow it. Coincidentally their goal came from a cross after two attempts to bulldoze through the middle.
They real get me vex with that shambolic display! These fellas look like they not interested in being starters. I have to say though, Miquel had a decent debut, apart from the goal. Arshavin looking better and better and has definitely gotten over his slump. Chamakh cannot still be tired. De man have worms or what? Bendtner wasted a good chance going for glory (again!) when he should have set up a teammate. I now thinking with all these replays, the second string is going to derail the trophy hunt.

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I have to say, I was real vex with the Gooners in de stadium whistling at de ref in stoppage time. Like they was scared Barca go come back and tief a draw. Have some dignity nah! Dat was embarrassing.

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Iz ah Manu man!!!
I glad Arsenal win, and ah rel like Barcelona.
I like Wileshire, Nasri, Robin, Cesc, et al from Arsenal
I like Messi, Alves, Xavi, et al from Barca
Do I think Barca will win at home? With madmen Song and Eboue playing for Arsenal, HELLS YES THEY WILL!!!


Song go play, but Sagna suspension was just for dis game. So Eboue go bench.

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I think the formation Barcelona started with (which looks like a diamond) makes them too dependent on Messi in the playmaker position. Sure he's a brilliant player but he wasn't at his best Wednesday. Fortunately their fullbacks provide width like nobody else, so it gives them an alternate attack in the formation. I think that with the rise and rise of Messi, the team is becoming more dependent on him.

Arsenal did a lot right this game, but their offside line, while the right idea, wasn't executed particularly well. They were lucky a few times. Like the 2 goals Ibra scored at the Emirates last year, they played the high line, but then gave the Barca midfielder with the ball too little pressure, allowing him to pick out the through ball.

Offensively Arsenal wasted too much time trying to short pass their way through midfield, which just invited pressure and kept costing them possession. When they played longer balls to the front lines. I think that's why Bendtner was put on. They bypassed the pressure and exposed Barca’s weak(ish) defence. The Arsenal Plan B highlighted in the recent Everton game paid dividends here, under slightly different circumstances. This was augmented by Wilshere’s runs through midfield. I don't know why I never realised how strong he is when running with the ball.

Finally I think Barca, as good as they are, are becoming a little too predictable for top level competitors. Pep will have to figure out a way to adjust his formation or tactics for Carnival Tuesday. Arsenal is still obviously a work in progress, but their progress is undeniable.

Barca's line up is confusing and I'm not sure it it's a traditional diamond, and some would argue that they often have no real out and out forward... Even D. Villa who is their most out and out forward takes up a wide withdrawn position.  Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are the creative engines - Xavi the purest playmaker of them all, with Messi being the most advanced, and sometimes even as a pure striker... Along with the wingbacks, Pedro gives width to the midfield creative trio and is a more direct type of player...Busquets is the protector.  If Puyol was fit, Abidal and Alves would be the wide threat...but instead it's Maxwell who to me is neither here nor there as an attacking wing back - I think Arsenal benefitted from that. 

Barca might be predictable in what they do because they don't have the big man option and they don't stray from their core philosophy in building the play up...but they are certainly not predictable in how they do what they do...the angles at which they attack and the runs they make are pretty confusing....The big difference was that in the Arsenal game after they were one goal up they didn't go for the jugular and exploit the forward channels in a direct enough manner, and many times I think they let Arsenal off the hook after the play broke down by being a bit too casual, and not direct enough...I expect that will change in Camp Nou.  Arsenal will have to play the same game they played at Emirates, disciplined at the back, and speedy in attack...just finish a bit better....Whether or not you get the lucky breaks is under no one's control...

No it’s not a traditional diamond. It just looks like one. They play a narrow 433, but when they play teams who have a high offside line, one forward (normally Messi) drops off a little to lure a center back higher up the pitch. This leaves a big gap in the defences offside line to get through balls for the other 2 to run on to. Barca destroyed Espanyol 5-1 earlier this year doing that. They also did it a few times in the Madrid game. So Messi isn’t a playmaker in that formation, like Seedorf on Tuesday. I guess it’s a type of 4312, which is broadly similar to a diamond. The difference is that in this, the -1- is not a playmaker, but a forward who drops deep to disrupt the offside line. The similarity to the diamond means that they depend on the wingbacks a lot, and yeah, Maxwell is no Abidal, but he did a decent job.

Any team that uses core beliefs or systems becomes predictable eventually. Guardiola has been brilliant at tweaking it to counter different responses to it. And they are technically superb, which means it still works against most opposition. Arsenal, as you said, has to stay disciplined at the back, but they need to put more pressure on the Barca midfielders instead of standing off. And yeah, van Persie needs to bring his finishing back up to it’s usual level. Walcott too. He’s regressing in that department.

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I think the formation Barcelona started with (which looks like a diamond) makes them too dependent on Messi in the playmaker position. Sure he's a brilliant player but he wasn't at his best Wednesday. Fortunately their fullbacks provide width like nobody else, so it gives them an alternate attack in the formation. I think that with the rise and rise of Messi, the team is becoming more dependent on him.

Arsenal did a lot right this game, but their offside line, while the right idea, wasn't executed particularly well. They were lucky a few times. Like the 2 goals Ibra scored at the Emirates last year, they played the high line, but then gave the Barca midfielder with the ball too little pressure, allowing him to pick out the through ball.

Offensively Arsenal wasted too much time trying to short pass their way through midfield, which just invited pressure and kept costing them possession. When they played longer balls to the front lines. I think that's why Bendtner was put on. They bypassed the pressure and exposed Barca’s weak(ish) defence. The Arsenal Plan B highlighted in the recent Everton game paid dividends here, under slightly different circumstances. This was augmented by Wilshere’s runs through midfield. I don't know why I never realised how strong he is when running with the ball.

Finally I think Barca, as good as they are, are becoming a little too predictable for top level competitors. Pep will have to figure out a way to adjust his formation or tactics for Carnival Tuesday. Arsenal is still obviously a work in progress, but their progress is undeniable.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: February 18, 2011, 09:31:25 AM »
I think the formation Barcelona started with (which looks like a diamond) makes them too dependent on Messi in the playmaker position. Sure he's a brilliant player but he wasn't at his best Wednesday. Fortunately their fullbacks provide width like nobody else, so it gives them an alternate attack in the formation. I think that with the rise and rise of Messi, the team is becoming more dependent on him.

Arsenal did a lot right this game, but their offside line, while the right idea, wasn't executed particularly well. They were lucky quite a few times. Like the 2 goals Ibra scored at the Emirates last year, they played the high line, but then gave the Barca midfielder with the ball too little pressure, allowing him to pick out the through ball.

Offensively Arsenal wasted too much time trying to short pass their way through midfield, which just invited pressure and kept costing them possession. When they played longer balls to the front lines. I think that's why Bendtner was put on. They bypassed the pressure and exposed Barca’s weak(ish) defence. The Arsenal Plan B highlighted in the recent Everton game paid dividends here, under slightly different circumstances. This was augmented by Wilshere’s runs through midfield. I don't know why I never realised how strong he is when running with the ball.

Finally I think Barca, as good as they are, are becoming a little too predictable for top level competitors. Pep will have to figure out a way to adjust his formation or tactics for Camp Nou. Arsenal is still obviously a work in progress, but their progress is undeniable.

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