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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 08, 2011, 03:44:55 PM »
We go see. I feel dis is Wenger last chance to win something. He suck salt for 5 years with the stadium debt and this year was supposed to be it. All it prove is the team good but not good enough. They need another big striker, defensive midfielder and a centre back. Can't be only relying on van Persie to pull a rabbit out of his hat, as good as he is. Song have no respectable backup and the best defender miss the whole season. I always had faith in Wenger who build a good team from almost nothing twice now but if he doh sign some top talent this summer I will join the Wenger out brigade.

Djourou retarded twin brother get a start today. WTF wrong wit dis man? Since he come back from injury he only pulling stones! Before then he was keeping man like Drogba in he back pocket. 3 mistakes, 3 goals. Like he forget how to defend.

Allyuh can have Johnny Evans!
Hahaha. Nah boy! Evans? Talk about backward step.

Congrats to your side. They didn't even need Howard Webb dis rounds.  :applause:

Thank you- hanging in there I am sure you guys will make some positive chages this off season. :beermug:

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 08, 2011, 01:52:26 PM »
Djourou retarded twin brother get a start today. WTF wrong wit dis man? Since he come back from injury he only pulling stones! Before then he was keeping man like Drogba in he back pocket. 3 mistakes, 3 goals. Like he forget how to defend.

Allyuh can have Johnny Evans!
Hahaha. Nah boy! Evans? Talk about backward step.

Congrats to your side. They didn't even need Howard Webb dis rounds.  :applause:

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 08, 2011, 11:44:52 AM »
Djourou retarded twin brother get a start today. WTF wrong wit dis man? Since he come back from injury he only pulling stones! Before then he was keeping man like Drogba in he back pocket. 3 mistakes, 3 goals. Like he forget how to defend.

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Football / Re: 2011 Champions League Final.
« on: May 05, 2011, 08:10:24 PM »
Hard luck Stunner. A little perspective. Supporting Man U gives them something to feel good about while they pumping gas for Gooners. Doh study it. It was funny though. Give jack he jacket. That Osama comment was clever.  :applause:

Under serious talk I wouldn't write off Man U. Their defence is excellent, and they love to get the ball to their wingers, who can real stress Barca fullbacks (the most defensively incapable fullbacks of any major team in Europe). If Scholes or Carrick can avoid getting sent off and they can get rid of the ball quick they could real poison Barca. They live on long balls to the flanks (Even Giggs rip up Chelsea in the Quarters wit dat one.). What they have to worry about is allowing Xavi time on the ball.

LoL that was nothing but a mosquito bite compared to the licks arsenal guy me with over the last 6 years  :rotfl:

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: May 04, 2011, 02:28:42 PM »
They bring on Huntelaar for a Centre Back? Ragnick rell desperate boy! Talk bout Kamikaze football!

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 03, 2011, 03:21:43 PM »
Ha! Evra eat he words! The arsenal team was the youngest playing for arsenal this season and of all EPL teams this season!

Won the battle .. lost the war  :(

True, but Arsenal won all their big home games, which they wouldn't have done last year. Except Sp*rs, which is a special case. It have no such thing as defendin in the North London Derby!

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: May 03, 2011, 03:19:01 PM »
The better team went through...ah well....

Madrid played a decent 2nd 45 - makes you wonder what they coulda done at home if their approach was a little different.   

As long as they are at full strength, it will take an monster performance from United and a fair amount of luck/bad luck to prevent Barca from winning the CL.   

 
I feel Vidic and Ferdinand will REAL struggle to handle Barca forwards. They have to smother the midfield completely and hope their wingers can win the battle against Barca fullbacks. Unless of course Huntelaar destroy tomorrow and Schalke pull off the upset of the decade.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 01, 2011, 10:26:41 AM »
Good tough victory today. Vidic shoulda get a red card and penalty but such is the case with United. The ref put a dread body check on Ramsey too! Clichy continues to be awful. How many times can a defender get caught on the ball? He needs to go. Rambo was outstanding in his tackling and passing, and the goal was a textbook late run. Man of the match for me. Szczesny was also excellent. Finally Arsenal has a keeper who can handle crosses with authority. Fabio need to calm down seriously. He gonna get sent off and cost United games. Hard fight by United who had their chances as well. Chicharito missed 1 or 2 and didn't look right with those near post runs of his.

Pity Robin didn't continue his scoring run. Greater pity that Arsenal haven't given themselves the opportunity to capitalise on this win. Time to do it when it counts Gunners. Stop being the team of the Future.

As yuh calling names, I thought Sagna was outstanding today.
He usually is but I thought his crossing was a little off. Great going forward and defensively as usual. I consider him the most consistent performer this season for us. By far my favorite player for Arsenal. The class of the league at Right Back

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Football / Re: Heurelho Gomes
« on: May 01, 2011, 10:00:45 AM »
Don't forget that nonsense goal Nani score on him in the early part of the season. No way a keeper at this level supposed to be doing that. A good shot stopper on his day but I sure he does give his defenders sh*ttings. Between him and Almunia I doh know who scares me more.

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: May 01, 2011, 09:44:57 AM »
Tough game United. Could have gone either way. Glad for the win though. :beermug:

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: May 01, 2011, 09:25:19 AM »
Good tough victory today. Vidic shoulda get a red card and penalty but such is the case with United. The ref put a dread body check on Ramsey too! Clichy continues to be awful. How many times can a defender get caught on the ball? He needs to go. Rambo was outstanding in his tackling and passing, and the goal was a textbook late run. Man of the match for me. Szczesny was also excellent. Finally Arsenal has a keeper who can handle crosses with authority. Fabio need to calm down seriously. He gonna get sent off and cost United games. Hard fight by United who had their chances as well. Chicharito missed 1 or 2 and didn't look right with those near post runs of his.

Pity Robin didn't continue his scoring run. Greater pity that Arsenal haven't given themselves the opportunity to capitalise on this win. Time to do it when it counts Gunners. Stop being the team of the Future.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 29, 2011, 10:20:14 AM »
Them fellas like they just want to make it to summer yes! They not beating Man U without a serious attitude change. Need a little bit of a clearing out in the transfer window.

I feel van Persie should be made captain. He and Sagna seem to be the only big players who up for a fight and he has the seniority and I believe the greater force of personality. If Cesc doh like that then let him go. Problem is, they need another big name striker to work with RvP, which might piss him off. Not keen on a striker being captain (and he of course has his injury problems) but I think he is by far best suited for the job.

I'd like to see Arsenal take something from the game on Sunday just to make it interesting, but I honestly don't see it happening. 

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 04:34:24 PM »
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I damn shame of dem 3 conduct. De motto is more dan a club....like is also an acting school.

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 04:11:13 PM »
Yeah, oh well. It is what it is.

I am very interested to see what Mourinho does in the 2nd leg. I think his "defensive" reputation is a little unfair.

Usually the Celtic-Rangers think is between the fans. I have a friend from Glasgow who says it isn't really an Old Firm game unless somebody gets stabbed. Of course, there were the 3 red cards in the Scottish Cup game last month.


He and Pepe both....

Funny thing is based on how he was reffin' the first half, I thought he'd be pretty lenient with cards.  He didn't flash them from early... He musta gotten instructions at half time to be a little more liberal with the cards to prevent the game from boiling over....but I think he took it too far. 

I don't envy the ref though...Other than Celtic- Rangers, this is probably the fiercest rivalry in Europe to be man in the middle...and even so I think most of the Celtic - Rangers violence takes place in off the field  between the fans.

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 04:02:35 PM »
Might well be. But yuh know how Chivu love a red card! Honest mistake.

Chivu, van Persie and now Pepe. Just now they will have enough to form a pretty good football team.

lol

Think it was Motta though....

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 03:57:52 PM »
Chivu, van Persie and now Pepe. Just now they will have enough to form a pretty good football team.

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 02:57:14 PM »
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...



steups... fack up ah nicely poised leg
tell me about it.... it's getting real distasteful year after year...
d Arsenal game come to mind watching dis game
Didn't want to say it because it would probably be interpreted as biased, but the same thing crossed my mind.

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 02:36:20 PM »
Pretty much sums it up.

Get rid of the head coach, then the player that breaking up play and you get two free goal.  >:(

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 02:11:25 PM »
No. Pinto was on the bench. Pepe get a red just now and Mourinho get sent to the stands. Another BS call for Barca.
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.

I ent go lie nah.. me ent know what going and take place for the rest of this and the other game but Mourinho is ah boss manipulator and a borse at framing a match de way he want it to turn out..

what ah Machiavellian devious master planner.




wait so are u saying Barca down to ten men?

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Football / Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
« on: April 27, 2011, 01:49:52 PM »
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 25, 2011, 04:08:39 PM »
He continues to sh*t dong heself (from the few RM games i watch) and take up space on dat team, just like at City. Throw away king. Even when he score 30 for Arsenal he was throwing away 5-6 sitters at a time. He shoulda be in Alan Shearer/Thierry Henry territory but never will be. Plus he was a disruptive influence. Don't miss him at all. Let him go where he will. I wish him well on his travels. To me all he doing is making Benzema look good.

Adebayor just won a trophy with Real Madrid  :beermug:

lol yuh wicked

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 25, 2011, 04:02:40 PM »
Dis team look like it already give up. No forward running, Nasri finishing poor, even Sagna not tracking back and he was the best right back in the league all year, forward and backward. Arshavin continues to prove he need selling. Clichy is poor attacking and defending. Every time it looked dangerous yesterday was from overlapping fullbacks or runners from midfield. Clichy doh overlap and the midfielders hardly running. They forget what made them so fearsome in January and February. Or they tired. I doh know but they not going to beat Manure with those types of performances.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 21, 2011, 06:24:21 AM »
Actually is closer to one a match but yeah is possible. Think what he could achieve if he wasn't injured all the time.

I can see Van Persie being the lead goal scorer in the EPL; he is almost scoring two a match. It appears that Berba may get minimum playing time and or he has lost confidence so that can also lead to Persie catching and passing him. And Tevez is injured which will limit games he will play. 

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 20, 2011, 03:02:48 PM »
The toughest draw of all. They gonna be talking about van Persie disallowed goal for ages. Hard luck. North London Derby is always a shootout. 6 Points back with 5 games to go.

Why do you not allow Arsenal to walk your dog?

Because they can't hold a lead.

Chelsea now 2nd on +34 GD. Arsenal on +32. Never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 20, 2011, 12:28:32 PM »
I'm sure you're quite familiar with the crack of a monkey's ass. It seems to encompass your ability to reason. Stay there in future. It suits you well.

i raised this point long before this game. i wont even use this game as an example why (results not included) refs need less to worry about and more to help them keep thier eyes on the game

all i am saying is take the clock away from the reff and th ebs of the 4th offical putting up minimum time
make it definite not an estimate

it real easy

easier than goal line technology

and other offical time keeper, starts clock when ref starts game, stops when he blows (does not include ball out of play only dead ball)
starts back when he does. it will make it way easier.

i play indoor football and the buzz clock is no arguing period

all i want to see is transparency integirty and accountability in the officiating of the game

I agree that it's easy, ref only have to raise/wave he hand to a timekeeper anytime he want to stop the clock.  But... remember FIFA's argument (whether you find it convincing or not) is that they want to keep the game simple that it can be played the same way on any level anywhere in the world.  One of the reasons why they've resisted adding officials on the endlines/behind the goal.  I could hear them making the same argument with regards to adding a timekeeper.

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dansteel... what you "prefer" carries as much import to me as what resides in the crack of a monkey's ass.  How about you heed your own advice next time?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 20, 2011, 07:42:19 AM »
Newcastle handed Arsenal another lifeline yesterday. Here's hoping they take this opportunity. Any recoveries from injury? We missing Wilshere's forward running and Sagna's crosses bad bad bad.

Time to fire some cannon down the Seven Sisters Road.

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Football / Re: Barca now vs AC Milan 1990
« on: April 20, 2011, 07:18:37 AM »
Milan would win this hands down 3-1!
I have the feeling Milan would win as well. 3-1 sounds plausible. Pretty sure Barca would score but the way they are so vulnerable in the fullback positions I think Milan would pick them apart there.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: April 20, 2011, 07:14:21 AM »
I just prefer if people get the facts before they write ignorant uninformed nonsense. I'll hold off next time. Write away! Apologies for the"breds" if it offends you so much.


Breds, Stunner has made this same point before. That is how it has to be parsed. Why you so desperate for it to be a complaint?

I'm sorry, I missed it... what "same" point did he make?  His statement would carry a more convincing ring of sincerity if like Wenger, his reputation didn't precede him. Maybe you should let Stunner carry his own briefs... or are you so desperate to be his chamberlain, "Breds"? 

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Football / FC Barcelona Thread.
« on: April 19, 2011, 11:48:48 PM »
Previously posted in a thread by Kicker but I feel this deserve its own thread.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jonathan_wilson/04/18/2011barca.acmilan90s/index.html

Ask anybody who's done it, and they'll tell you that sustaining success is much harder than achieving it in the first place. The great Hungarian coach Bela Guttmann refused ever to spend longer than three years at a club because he felt that after that he could no longer motivate players. It may be that in the modern world of soccer in which money begets money, success is easier to sustain than previously, at least on a domestic level. On a European scale what that means is a cluster of perhaps eight or so super powers constantly battling for the Champions League, which is surely the main reason no side has successfully defended the title since the AC Milan of Arrigo Sacchi in 1990.

Should Barcelona win the Champions League this year, though, it would have good claim to be the best side since Sacchi's. It won the competition in 2009, and may have done so again last year had the prohibition on flights after the eruption of the Icelandic volcano not forced the squad to travel by bus to Milan to face Internazionale in the semifinal. Even after a 3-1 defeat, it took a defensive performance of extraordinary resilience -- and good fortune -- from Inter to withhold Pep Guardiola's team in the second leg.

Sacchi's Milan fell apart soon after its second European triumph, the demands of his pressing game and the difficulty of retaining the hunger necessary to enact it eventually becoming too great. Given Guardiola's transition over a mere three seasons from sprightly ex-player to haggard coach, and his cryptic pronouncements about leaving the Barca job and moving to Italy, it's tempting to wonder if he is finding the maintenance of a great side, constantly stoking its desire, just as taxing as Sacchi did. With their insistence on pressing, both sides play a peculiarly demanding form of football, and one to which outsiders find it difficult to adjust. Neither coach could freshen up a squad by simply going out and signing a new player and expect them immediately to settle.

But what would happen if the teams played each other? Both probably produced their greatest displays in beating Real Madrid 5-0, Barcelona earlier this season; AC Milan in the European Cup semifinal in 1989 (both, oddly, also drew 1-1 in the Bernabeu the same season). So let's take the lineups from those two games and pit them against each other.

AC Milan: Giovanni Galli; Mauro Tassotti, Franco Baresi, Alessandro Costacurta, Paolo Maldini; Roberto Donadoni, Frank Rijkaard, Carlo Ancelotti, Angelo Colombo; Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten

Barcelona: Victor Valdes; Dani Alves, Carles Puyol, Gerard Pique, Eric Abidal; Sergio Busquets; Xavi, Andres Iniesta; Pedro, Lionel Messi, David Villa

Milan had Giovanni Galli in goal and a back four of, from right to left, Mauro Tassotti, Franco Baresi, Alessandro Costacurta and Paolo Maldini. Frank Rijkaard and Carlo Ancelotti held the middle of midfield with Roberto Donadoni to the right and Angelo Colombo to the left, with Ruud Gullit playing just off Marco van Basten in a classic 4-4-2. Barcelona, meanwhile, had more of a 4-1-2-3 shape: Victor Valdes in goal. Dani Alves and Eric Abidal surged forward from fullback, with Gerard Pique and Carles Puyol as the two center backs. Sergio Busquets held at the back of the midfield, with Xavi and Andres Iniesta just in front of him, while Lionel Messi operated as a false nine, allowing David Villa and Pedro to cut in from wide positions.

Both sides self-consciously pursue the same philosophy of soccer; Sacchi evangelized the Total Football Dutch teams of the seventies, while Guardiola was captain of the Johan Cruyff-coached Barcelona Dream Team (1991-94) that espoused the same theories as the Netherlands and Ajax sides Cruyff had captained. The difference was in the shape, and that may be conditioned by era.

Sacchi's Milan could afford a 4-4-2 because it pressed high up the pitch, the high offside line (Sacchi's ideal was 25 meters from center back to center forward) squeezing the space and preventing the opposition having time on the ball. The liberalization of the offside law has made such a high line impossible, and any side that doesn't play an additional man in the center of midfield struggles to control possession. If this imaginary game is being played under modern rules, Sacchi's side immediately has a problem.

Then again, Barca is not used to sides that press as hard or as high as Sacchi's, and when Milan do win the ball, Colombo and Donadoni give Dani Alves and Abidal a dilemma. Do they press on as they would usually to, providing attacking width and overlapping the inverted wingers, or do they try to deal with the potential attacking threat? The evidence of this season has been that Barca's fullbacks tend to push on regardless, and that could mean a steady supply of crosses to Van Basten, an excellent finisher of aerial chances.

Messi's drifting, such a problem for so many sides, shouldn't present Milan with too much of an issue, given its offside line should compress the space available to him, forcing him into the area occupied by Ancelotti and Rijkaard. The concern for Milan would be that if any of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi do have even a fraction of time on the ball in a central area, they could feed angled balls through for Pedro or Villa to cut onto from wide. Part of the idea of pressing is to panic the opposition into hasty passes, but even when those three are under pressure, the suspicion must be that eventually one would find the killer pass, particularly given the changes in the offside law that make it easier for Villa and Pedro to time their runs.

Of course, a version of this fixture did occur in 1994, when Cruyff's Dream Team, the clear precursors of this Barca, met a Milan side remodeled by Fabio Capello in the Champions League final. On that occasion, Milan thrashed Barca 4-0, whose two fluid forwards, Hristo Stoichkov and Romario, found themselves squeezed out of utility by a combination of the Milan back four (even though it was significantly rejigged that night because of injury) and Marcel Desailly sitting deep in the midfield. Dejan Savicevic, meanwhile, ran wild, drifting from a nominal center forward's position into the spaces behind the Barca fullbacks.

Gullit, perhaps, could do something similar in this game and, while a great strength, the flanks are certainly where Barca look vulnerable, but the liberalization of the offside law must work in the modern team's favor. Sacchi's Milan was a team that favored position on the field over possession, but with opponents able to wander behind its back four without being called offside until they were interfering in a material way, it's hard to see how it could ever achieve that control. Barca, inevitably, would dominate possession, and then it would be just a question of when one of their playmakers pierced the offside trap.

It's a little unfair, because under the old law Milan would have a far better chance. Under the modern interpretation, though, I'm saying Guardiola's Barca to win 2-0, both goals coming from the sort of chance it created against Arsenal in the first half of the first leg at the Emirates this year -- angled balls played to forwards running in from wide.

Jonathan Wilson is the author of Inverting the Pyramid; Behind the Curtain; Sunderland: A Club Transformed; and The Anatomy of England.

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: April 19, 2011, 11:43:38 PM »
Oh, hunting's no fun when the rabbit has a gun!

HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



It dat serious?  ???

Is that f**king serious...  he wanna give talk he could f**king take talk



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