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Football / Re: RIP Weary (Joann Charles)
« on: March 25, 2017, 05:50:57 AM »
Wow. Now seeing this purely by chance. RIP Weary. Condolences to her family and loved ones.
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Football / Re: D Touches Match Report - T&T vs JA
« on: November 20, 2013, 03:34:23 PM »
Thanks for this Touches. Believe me, you were missed.
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: September 14, 2013, 07:28:45 AM »
Janzaj looking good
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: September 02, 2013, 07:07:27 PM »
Absolute shambles today. Woodward et al out of their depth.
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Football / Re: Great job guys
« on: July 21, 2013, 09:16:59 AM »
Great job guys. You played like real Warriors! 
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General Discussion / Re: Goodbye to my American dream
« on: July 18, 2013, 11:40:33 AM »She is cute. DHW back off!
i thought u is/was a chick?
That young lady is impressive in more ways than one. Good luck to her.
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Football / Re: A message to the T&T football team.
« on: July 16, 2013, 08:30:21 PM »
I was at the game last night and I have to say my heart swelled to see the effort and SKILL on display. When the team saluted the fans at the end and the fans retuurned the tribute... well the connection was real. Good luck to the team.
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Honduras Game (15-Jul-2013).
« on: July 16, 2013, 12:39:39 AM »
Here is a video I took from my seat of the KJ penalty.
http://youtu.be/HhdfRrbEswM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/HhdfRrbEswM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/HhdfRrbEswM</a>
http://youtu.be/HhdfRrbEswM
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General Discussion / Re: Kid Shot Dead, No Arrest!
« on: July 13, 2013, 10:49:29 PM »
In my (mostly) white neighbourhood, people were setting off fireworks. Welcome to Texas. 
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General Discussion / Re: The world is getting more bizarro
« on: July 03, 2013, 03:41:46 PM »
Not only that, but they are tree huggers too...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/02/mongolian-neo-nazis-rebrand-environmentalists/print
Mongolian neo-Nazis rebrand themselves as environmentalists
Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, whose leader has expressed reverence for Hitler, now says its main goal is to save nature
A Mongolian neo-Nazi group has rebranded itself as an environmentalist organisation fighting pollution by foreign-owned mines, seeking legitimacy as it sends swastika-wearing members to check mining permits.
Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, has only 100 or so members but it is one of several groups – others have names including Dayar Mongol (Whole Mongolia), Gal Undesten (Fire Nation) and Khukh Mongol (Blue Mongolia) – that are linking nationalism and resources as foreign firms seek to exploit the mineral wealth of the vast country, landlocked between Russia and China.
Based in an office behind a lingerie store in the Mongolian capital, the shaven-headed, jackbooted Tsagaan Khass stormtroopers launch raids on mining projects, demanding paperwork or soil samples to be studied for contaminants.
"Before, we used to work in a harsh way, like breaking down doors," the group's leader, Ariunbold Altankhuum, 40, told Reuters. "But now, we have changed and we use other approaches, like demonstrations."On a patrol to a quarry two hours' drive from the capital, members wore black, SS-style Nazi uniforms complete with lightning flashes and replica Iron Crosses.
They questioned a mine worker about paperwork, opting to return in a week's time, when the owner had returned.
"Today our main goal is to save nature. We are doing things to protect the environment," Altankhuum said. "The development of mining is growing and has become an issue."
The group, founded in the 1990s, says it wants to halt pollution in the former Soviet satellite as foreign companies dig for gold, copper, coal and iron ore using cheap labour from China and nearby south-east Asia. But a lot of the pollution is caused by local, illegal miners working individually.
"We used to talk about fighting with foreigners, but some time ago we realised that is not efficient, so our purpose changed from fighting foreigners in the streets to fighting the mining companies," Altankhuum said.
Mongolians fear foreign workers are taking up scarce jobs in an economy where nearly 30% of the population lives below the poverty line, according to the Asia Development Bank.
"Mining is important because it's 90% of our economy," said the political commentator Dambadarjaa Jargalsaikhan. "But the unequal channelling of this revenue, the inequality in this country, that's the major issue."
Not helping the Tsagaan Khass environmental credentials among mainstream observers – apart from the uniforms – is Altankhuum's reverence for Adolf Hitler.
"The reason we chose this way is because what is happening here in Mongolia is like 1939, and Hitler's movement transformed his country into a powerful country," he said.
Because of comments such as that, some observers dismiss groups such as his as self-serving and irrelevant.
"Mongolia's neo-Nazis have been receiving too much attention from global media, and they've obviously been enjoying it," said Tal Liron, a PhD candidate at the University of Chicago who specialises in national identity. "They do not, however, represent Mongolians as a whole, any more than neo-Nazis in Britain represent the Brits.
"...Mongolians are cosmopolitan, savvy and perfectly capable of adapting many foreign ideologies and fashions to their context. For example, they have since 1990 thoroughly and vibrantly embraced representative democracy, just as they embraced socialism before 1990. I think that's the real story here: Mongolians are not and perhaps never were a remote, isolated people; and they're also quite capable of understanding irony, especially in regards to their contemporary condition."
Resource nationalism has been a major election issue in Mongolia, where the largest foreign investment is the Oyu Tolgoi project, which is 66% owned by global miner Rio Tinto and the rest by the government.
Oyu Tolgoi is expected to boost Mongolia's economy by about a third by 2020. Annual output in its first decade is expected to average 330,000 tonnes of copper and 495,000 ounces of gold.
But Rio has said since February it will not begin exports from the mine until it resolves disputes with Mongolia over royalties, costs, management fees and project financing.
"They are saying they have signed contracts on it and are giving some percentage of that to the people," Dorjgotov Purev-Ish, a 39-year-old manual labourer, told Reuters, describing government assurances of the advantages to flow from Oyu Tolgoi.
"But our family hasn't received any benefit."
The president, Tsakhia Elbegdorj, who wants more controls on foreign mining investment, won a second term last week despite concerns over the faltering economy and the growing role of foreign firms.
Colonel Tumenjargal Sainjargal of the national police department said the rightwing phenomenon began 15 years ago, when young people grew angry at the appearance of foreign languages on signs and made threats against business owners.
"They said it was too much, that it looked like a Chinatown," Sainjargal said.
"There are complaints that some foreign-invested companies hire Mongolian employees and cheat them, use violence, overwork them, or refuse to pay money owed to them. Afterwards, some of these Mongolians call the nationalist groups. There have been a few incidents with nationalists coming to companies for violent reasons to resolve the conflicts in their own way."
It seems unlikely Tsagaan Khass's new green thinking will be enough to repair its reputation after accusations of violence, such as shaving the heads of women it claimed were prostitutes serving foreign customers.
"We didn't shave the heads of the women, we just cut their hair," said Altankhuum. "But today we are changing. That was crude. That time has passed."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/02/mongolian-neo-nazis-rebrand-environmentalists/print
Mongolian neo-Nazis rebrand themselves as environmentalists
Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, whose leader has expressed reverence for Hitler, now says its main goal is to save nature
A Mongolian neo-Nazi group has rebranded itself as an environmentalist organisation fighting pollution by foreign-owned mines, seeking legitimacy as it sends swastika-wearing members to check mining permits.
Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, has only 100 or so members but it is one of several groups – others have names including Dayar Mongol (Whole Mongolia), Gal Undesten (Fire Nation) and Khukh Mongol (Blue Mongolia) – that are linking nationalism and resources as foreign firms seek to exploit the mineral wealth of the vast country, landlocked between Russia and China.
Based in an office behind a lingerie store in the Mongolian capital, the shaven-headed, jackbooted Tsagaan Khass stormtroopers launch raids on mining projects, demanding paperwork or soil samples to be studied for contaminants.
"Before, we used to work in a harsh way, like breaking down doors," the group's leader, Ariunbold Altankhuum, 40, told Reuters. "But now, we have changed and we use other approaches, like demonstrations."On a patrol to a quarry two hours' drive from the capital, members wore black, SS-style Nazi uniforms complete with lightning flashes and replica Iron Crosses.
They questioned a mine worker about paperwork, opting to return in a week's time, when the owner had returned.
"Today our main goal is to save nature. We are doing things to protect the environment," Altankhuum said. "The development of mining is growing and has become an issue."
The group, founded in the 1990s, says it wants to halt pollution in the former Soviet satellite as foreign companies dig for gold, copper, coal and iron ore using cheap labour from China and nearby south-east Asia. But a lot of the pollution is caused by local, illegal miners working individually.
"We used to talk about fighting with foreigners, but some time ago we realised that is not efficient, so our purpose changed from fighting foreigners in the streets to fighting the mining companies," Altankhuum said.
Mongolians fear foreign workers are taking up scarce jobs in an economy where nearly 30% of the population lives below the poverty line, according to the Asia Development Bank.
"Mining is important because it's 90% of our economy," said the political commentator Dambadarjaa Jargalsaikhan. "But the unequal channelling of this revenue, the inequality in this country, that's the major issue."
Not helping the Tsagaan Khass environmental credentials among mainstream observers – apart from the uniforms – is Altankhuum's reverence for Adolf Hitler.
"The reason we chose this way is because what is happening here in Mongolia is like 1939, and Hitler's movement transformed his country into a powerful country," he said.
Because of comments such as that, some observers dismiss groups such as his as self-serving and irrelevant.
"Mongolia's neo-Nazis have been receiving too much attention from global media, and they've obviously been enjoying it," said Tal Liron, a PhD candidate at the University of Chicago who specialises in national identity. "They do not, however, represent Mongolians as a whole, any more than neo-Nazis in Britain represent the Brits.
"...Mongolians are cosmopolitan, savvy and perfectly capable of adapting many foreign ideologies and fashions to their context. For example, they have since 1990 thoroughly and vibrantly embraced representative democracy, just as they embraced socialism before 1990. I think that's the real story here: Mongolians are not and perhaps never were a remote, isolated people; and they're also quite capable of understanding irony, especially in regards to their contemporary condition."
Resource nationalism has been a major election issue in Mongolia, where the largest foreign investment is the Oyu Tolgoi project, which is 66% owned by global miner Rio Tinto and the rest by the government.
Oyu Tolgoi is expected to boost Mongolia's economy by about a third by 2020. Annual output in its first decade is expected to average 330,000 tonnes of copper and 495,000 ounces of gold.
But Rio has said since February it will not begin exports from the mine until it resolves disputes with Mongolia over royalties, costs, management fees and project financing.
"They are saying they have signed contracts on it and are giving some percentage of that to the people," Dorjgotov Purev-Ish, a 39-year-old manual labourer, told Reuters, describing government assurances of the advantages to flow from Oyu Tolgoi.
"But our family hasn't received any benefit."
The president, Tsakhia Elbegdorj, who wants more controls on foreign mining investment, won a second term last week despite concerns over the faltering economy and the growing role of foreign firms.
Colonel Tumenjargal Sainjargal of the national police department said the rightwing phenomenon began 15 years ago, when young people grew angry at the appearance of foreign languages on signs and made threats against business owners.
"They said it was too much, that it looked like a Chinatown," Sainjargal said.
"There are complaints that some foreign-invested companies hire Mongolian employees and cheat them, use violence, overwork them, or refuse to pay money owed to them. Afterwards, some of these Mongolians call the nationalist groups. There have been a few incidents with nationalists coming to companies for violent reasons to resolve the conflicts in their own way."
It seems unlikely Tsagaan Khass's new green thinking will be enough to repair its reputation after accusations of violence, such as shaving the heads of women it claimed were prostitutes serving foreign customers.
"We didn't shave the heads of the women, we just cut their hair," said Altankhuum. "But today we are changing. That was crude. That time has passed."
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: July 01, 2013, 08:31:33 AM »http://nicholashuggins.com/MUTV-Don-t-Miss-a-MinuteNow seeing this... these are really good. The other stuff is quite good as well. Keep it up.
this link is a few United Posters i made, i figure the united supporters might appreciate it.
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Football / Re: 2013 Confederation Cup
« on: June 19, 2013, 05:27:36 PM »The Japanese are well organized and controlled. They attack in numbers and overlap well on both sides. Kagawa is a footballer , wow!!
Italy is vulnerable on the break as the can't match Japan for pace at the back. Balotelli is practiaclly their only threat going forward so far. I'm surprised at how many times they gave away possession, Pirlo especially.
Man, hope Moyes uses him as the fulcrum this season...
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General Discussion / Re: Anger swells after NSA phone records court order revelations
« on: June 07, 2013, 02:14:06 PM »Much ado about nothing. There is no evidence that "personal data" is being collected. These programs are supervised by Congress and done pursuant to lawfully applied for and court issued warrants. The email program doesn't even apply to US Citizens or residents and the phone program doesn't collect information on any person, merely numbers and times. Don't buy into the media's vindictive hype over this.
No. metadata can be use for data mining and analysis (patterns, location data etc.). It is trivial to use the metadata to trace to individuals.
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Football / Re: intercol reunion from yesteryear.
« on: June 04, 2013, 03:44:46 PM »Talkin bout Penal Sports they put out some InterCol Stars like Phil Harris, David and Charlie Williams, Sutherland, I'm not too sure if the DPP Gaspard came from there also but the club was big in cricket and these fellas were also top cricketers..well David Williams represent..
David's younger brother's name is Roger from what I remember.
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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Romania Game (4-Jun-13).
« on: June 04, 2013, 12:24:47 PM »Team fall apart after the goal yes wayyy. Men cah even defend on the proper side of an attackerAs usual...
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: May 12, 2013, 09:20:07 AM »
Emotional day.
Kagawa looking the business today; Rooney who?
Kagawa looking the business today; Rooney who?
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: May 08, 2013, 07:55:10 AM »
A sad day. I feel as if a relative has died. Manchester United will move on though.
To Sir Alex; thanks for EVERYTHING.
"...we'll keep the Red Flag flying high coz Man United will never die..."
To Sir Alex; thanks for EVERYTHING.
"...we'll keep the Red Flag flying high coz Man United will never die..."
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Football / Re: Luis Suárez deserve a thread.
« on: April 24, 2013, 11:50:44 AM »He lucky it was not a fella like Roy Keane he bite. That would of been World War 3 on that pitch.
I would have paid good money to see that... It would have been a short war though; a skirmish really. But just to see Keane's reaction
With bad men like Keane and Viera you think he would even try that?
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General Discussion / Re: Bombing at the Boston Marathon
« on: April 24, 2013, 08:40:12 AM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/22/boston-marathon-terrorism-aurora-sandy-hook/print
Why is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine?
Two very disparate commentators, Ali Abunimah and Alan Dershowitz, both raised serious questions over the weekend about a claim that has been made over and over about the bombing of the Boston Marathon: namely, that this was an act of terrorism. Dershowitz was on BBC Radio on Saturday and, citing the lack of knowledge about motive, said (at the 3:15 mark): "It's not even clear under the federal terrorist statutes that it qualifies as an act of terrorism." Abunimah wrote a superb analysis of whether the bombing fits the US government's definition of "terrorism", noting that "absolutely no evidence has emerged that the Boston bombing suspects acted 'in furtherance of political or social objectives'" or that their alleged act was 'intended to influence or instigate a course of action that furthers a political or social goal.'" Even a former CIA Deputy Director, Phillip Mudd, said on Fox News on Sunday that at this point the bombing seems more like a common crime than an act of terrorism.
Over the last two years, the US has witnessed at least three other episodes of mass, indiscriminate violence that killed more people than the Boston bombings did: the Tucson shooting by Jared Loughner in which 19 people (including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords) were shot, six of whom died; the Aurora movie theater shooting by James Holmes in which 70 people were shot, 12 of whom died; and the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting by Adam Lanza in which 26 people (20 of whom were children) were shot and killed. The word "terrorism" was almost never used to describe that indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people, and none of the perpetrators of those attacks was charged with terrorism-related crimes. A decade earlier, two high school seniors in Colorado, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, used guns and bombs to murder 12 students and a teacher, and almost nobody called that "terrorism" either.
More...
the prez call the bombing an act of terrorism in the earlies. a mistake?
An egregious mistake.
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General Discussion / Re: Bombing at the Boston Marathon
« on: April 23, 2013, 02:46:58 PM »http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/22/boston-marathon-terrorism-aurora-sandy-hook/print
Why is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine?
Two very disparate commentators, Ali Abunimah and Alan Dershowitz, both raised serious questions over the weekend about a claim that has been made over and over about the bombing of the Boston Marathon: namely, that this was an act of terrorism. Dershowitz was on BBC Radio on Saturday and, citing the lack of knowledge about motive, said (at the 3:15 mark): "It's not even clear under the federal terrorist statutes that it qualifies as an act of terrorism." Abunimah wrote a superb analysis of whether the bombing fits the US government's definition of "terrorism", noting that "absolutely no evidence has emerged that the Boston bombing suspects acted 'in furtherance of political or social objectives'" or that their alleged act was 'intended to influence or instigate a course of action that furthers a political or social goal.'" Even a former CIA Deputy Director, Phillip Mudd, said on Fox News on Sunday that at this point the bombing seems more like a common crime than an act of terrorism.
Over the last two years, the US has witnessed at least three other episodes of mass, indiscriminate violence that killed more people than the Boston bombings did: the Tucson shooting by Jared Loughner in which 19 people (including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords) were shot, six of whom died; the Aurora movie theater shooting by James Holmes in which 70 people were shot, 12 of whom died; and the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting by Adam Lanza in which 26 people (20 of whom were children) were shot and killed. The word "terrorism" was almost never used to describe that indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people, and none of the perpetrators of those attacks was charged with terrorism-related crimes. A decade earlier, two high school seniors in Colorado, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, used guns and bombs to murder 12 students and a teacher, and almost nobody called that "terrorism" either.
More...
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: April 22, 2013, 03:21:19 PM »
Congratulations to all Reds everywhere.
Glory Glory Man United.
MUFC One Love
Glory Glory Man United.
MUFC One Love
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General Discussion / Re: Bombing at the Boston Marathon
« on: April 16, 2013, 08:50:12 AM »http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/15/iraq-bombings-wave-attacks.html
ooops my bad...wrong thread.
Well done....
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General Discussion / Re: Newtown, Connecticut, school shooting leaves 27 dead, including 18 children
« on: December 15, 2012, 03:29:50 PM »
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: December 01, 2012, 01:13:12 PM »
sh*t on a stick
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: November 25, 2012, 08:53:20 AM »
Twenty Years of Cantona!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call
When the Premier League was introduced in 1992, Sir Alex Ferguson described it as "a piece of nonsense" that sold supporters "right down the river". Twelve Premier League titles later, Ferguson has found greatness and a knighthood amid that nonsense. He may not have won a single title, however, without a serendipitous phone call 20 years ago this week . It led to the signing of Eric Cantona, who would catalyse Manchester United to an extent that still boggles the mind.
Read the rest here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call
When the Premier League was introduced in 1992, Sir Alex Ferguson described it as "a piece of nonsense" that sold supporters "right down the river". Twelve Premier League titles later, Ferguson has found greatness and a knighthood amid that nonsense. He may not have won a single title, however, without a serendipitous phone call 20 years ago this week . It led to the signing of Eric Cantona, who would catalyse Manchester United to an extent that still boggles the mind.
Read the rest here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: November 20, 2012, 09:48:14 AM »
A VERY young squad today. We get to see the Reserve Team (U21) players! Hopefully Tunnicliffe and Petrucci get some playing time (Tunners might start). Powell might start as well or play some part.
The only problem is that the U21 was weakened yesterday and lost a crucial game to Villa
I don't expect much today, but it's always good to see the young players get a chance.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Nov/manchester-united-take-21-players-to-istanbul-for-galatasaray-match.aspx
Reds take 21 to Turkey
Sir Alex Ferguson will select from a younger squad than usual when he names his Manchester United side to face Galatasaray on Tuesday night.
The party of 21 players flying out to Istanbul includes seven young men who have yet to play in the UEFA Champions League, including midfielders Nick Powell, Larnell Cole, Davide Petrucci and Ryan Tunnicliffe, striker Joshua King and defender Marnick Vermijl. The other two - defender / defensive midfielder Tom Thorpe and goalkeeper Sam Johnstone - are still without a senior appearance in any competition for the Reds, although both are United Under-21 regulars and have been capped by England at Under-19 level.
The senior players missing the trip to Turkey include Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, David De Gea and Robin van Persie.
Travelling squad: Sam Johnstone, Anders Lindegaard; Rafael, Alexander Buttner, Phil Jones, Tom Thorpe, Marnick Vermijl, Scott Wootton; Michael Carrick, Davide Petrucci, Larnell Cole, Tom Cleverley, Darren Fletcher, Anderson, Nick Powell, Ashley Young, Ryan Tunnicliffe; Javier Hernandez, Joshua King, Danny Welbeck, Federico Macheda.
The only problem is that the U21 was weakened yesterday and lost a crucial game to Villa
I don't expect much today, but it's always good to see the young players get a chance.http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Nov/manchester-united-take-21-players-to-istanbul-for-galatasaray-match.aspx
Reds take 21 to Turkey
Sir Alex Ferguson will select from a younger squad than usual when he names his Manchester United side to face Galatasaray on Tuesday night.
The party of 21 players flying out to Istanbul includes seven young men who have yet to play in the UEFA Champions League, including midfielders Nick Powell, Larnell Cole, Davide Petrucci and Ryan Tunnicliffe, striker Joshua King and defender Marnick Vermijl. The other two - defender / defensive midfielder Tom Thorpe and goalkeeper Sam Johnstone - are still without a senior appearance in any competition for the Reds, although both are United Under-21 regulars and have been capped by England at Under-19 level.
The senior players missing the trip to Turkey include Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, David De Gea and Robin van Persie.
Travelling squad: Sam Johnstone, Anders Lindegaard; Rafael, Alexander Buttner, Phil Jones, Tom Thorpe, Marnick Vermijl, Scott Wootton; Michael Carrick, Davide Petrucci, Larnell Cole, Tom Cleverley, Darren Fletcher, Anderson, Nick Powell, Ashley Young, Ryan Tunnicliffe; Javier Hernandez, Joshua King, Danny Welbeck, Federico Macheda.
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General Discussion / Re: Google's Android unveiled
« on: November 11, 2012, 09:02:03 PM »Read recently, Samsung has surpassed Apple as the number 1 smartphone maker in the world. The Galaxy S3 is now the world's most sold smartphone surpassing the IPhone 4. In just a few months.
Not hard to see why. I have the S3 (a couple months now) and it is almost perfect in terms of performance and stability.
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: November 01, 2012, 03:25:32 PM »I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....
Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23
Starting XI: Cech (7m), Azpilicueta (6m), Cahill (7m), Luiz (20m), Bertrand (125k), Piazon (10m), Mikel (16m), Romeu (6m), Mata (23m), Moses (9m), Sturridge (6m)
Brought on: Hazard (32m), Oscar (25m), Ramires (18m)
Academy graduates involved: 0
Total cost: £185.125m
United: Lindegaard (2m), Rafael (2m), Wootton (0), Keane (0), Buttner (3m), Fletcher (0), Anderson (20m), Nani (18m), Giggs (0), Hernandez (6m), Welbeck (0)
Brought on: Powell (4m), Tunnicliffe (0), Macheda (0)
Academy graduates involved: 7
Total cost: £55m
Congratulations to Chelsea on a superb victory
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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: November 01, 2012, 03:23:00 PM »I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....
Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23
Doh try dat. What the numbers look like without Giggs in the count?
In any case, I wouldn't call them kids so much as players trying to make the squad.
Without Giggs they would be an average age of 23 too.
A question for yall United fans - Alex Ferguson's production line has produced a grand total of 1 star player in the last 10 years - Darren Fletcher. If I'm being generous, then perhaps Wellbeck. Do yall have any hope in this latest generation (Cleverley, Powell etc)?
Tunnicliffe. He is progressing well; a good driving midfielder. Another guy I like to watch is Petrucci, but he had injury issues a while back and has not gotten near the first team. I had hopes for Morrisson, but...