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General Discussion / toronto streetcar shooting
« on: July 30, 2013, 01:25:04 PM »
what was de point of tazering dude AFTER shooting him?

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de guardian uk running this one:

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Other Sports / aaron hernandez
« on: July 03, 2013, 02:05:51 PM »
seems like yuh cyah be a baller/gangsta any more.

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Other Sports / bruins vs blackhawks
« on: June 20, 2013, 08:32:33 AM »
this boston - chicago hockey finals has been fantastic. 3 OTs in four games. last night's game had 11 goals. have no idea who is going to take this series.

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this fella porter try to claim he had diplomatic immunity from sierra leone. wtf?! anyway, he get ketch and hopefully they take very nickel (canada done with de penny) he and his family have.

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Panama, Trinidad and Tobago are money-laundering havens


MONTREAL - Panama, and to a lesser extent, Trinidad and Tobago, are known money-laundering havens where one can stash millions of dollars and transfer funds to offshore accounts without authorities finding out, say two Canadian experts in shady international transactions.

On Monday, federal police in Panama arrested Arthur Porter, former head of the McGill University Health Centre, along with his wife. The couple were wanted by Quebec police on charges of money-laundering and conspiracy arising from the $1.3-billion contract to build the MUHC superhospital.

Police in Panama said Porter was planning to stay in Panama City for one day before flying to Trinidad and Tobago. Porter and his wife did not give any reasons for their itinerary, and a Gazette search of corporate and other records has found that Porter does not have any business interests in those two countries.

Quebec police affidavits obtained by The Gazette reveal that Canada’s money-laundering agency, FINTRAC, provided information on Porter to investigators, revealing a tangled web of international transactions. The affidavits allege that former executives of SNC-Lavalin, the engineering firm that won the contract to build the MUHC superhospital, made $22.5 million in unapproved payments, with much of that money ending up in Canadian and Bahamian bank accounts held by Porter.

Garry Clement, a money-laundering expert and former director of the RCMP’s proceeds-of-crime division, did not comment specifically on the Porter case. But he did explain why criminals are attracted to depositing their cash in a Panamanian bank and why they might want to transfer funds to Trinidad and Tobago.

“Panama is a major haven for money-laundering, and corruption is still fairly rampant in the country,” said Clement, who completed part of his training in the Central American nation.

Money-launderers first set up a dummy company with the help of a law firm in Panama. The company is a bearer-share corporation, meaning that it issues shares in which ownership cannot be traced. By contrast, bearer-share corporations are not allowed in Canada, he noted.

The bearer-share corporation then opens a Panamanian bank account in a country where depositing large amounts of cash is not frowned upon.

“Once you’ve got the money into a financial institution, and it appears that it’s coming from a corporation, now the world is your oyster,” Clement said. “You’re able to move it around the world. Most launderers will probably move it first (electronically) to the United Arab Emirates, then probably move it off to the Caribbean and then back into Canada or anywhere else.”

Trinidad and Tobago, he added, is “definitely” an option for funnelling cash.

FINTRAC officials did not want to comment on the Porter case. But Peter Lamey, a senior communications officer for FINTRAC, emailed The Gazette a report on money-laundering in Trinidad and Tobago.

Chris Walker, a member of the Canadian Anti Money-Laundering Institute, noted that more than 370,000 international companies are registered in Panama, along with 31 offshore banks.

“People still view Panama as a place where you can take your dirty money and you can clean it through their various banks,” Walker said.

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General Discussion / What happening with the price of gold?
« on: May 17, 2013, 02:36:12 PM »
it only falling ever since trinidad james.

it below $1400 per ounce.

where all the goldbugs? they had a thread on this last year: contro vs. truetrini.

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General Discussion / malcolm x grandson dead in mexico
« on: May 15, 2013, 09:13:44 PM »
2 Waiters Arrested in Killing of Malcolm X’s Grandson

MEXICO CITY — The police here arrested two men on murder and robbery charges on Monday in the beating death last week of Malcolm Shabazz, the grandson of Malcolm X, though many questions about the case remained unresolved.

The men taken into custody, David Hernández Cruz and Manuel Alejandro Pérez de Jesús, worked as waiters at the Palace Club, a downtown bar where Mr. Shabazz, 28, was beaten, in what the city prosecutor called a dispute over an excessive bill.

Two other bar employees who the authorities said participated in the beating, which left Mr. Shabazz with fatal skull, jaw and rib fractures, were being sought.

The body of Mr. Shabazz, who for years had wrestled with living in the shadow of his grandfather’s fame, was still at a city morgue on Monday while American consular officials worked to have it returned to the United States. A family spokeswoman said they would have no comment, and no funeral plans have been announced.

Mr. Shabazz arrived in Mexico City from Tijuana, the prosecutor, Rodolfo Fernando Rios Garza, said at a news conference. He went to the bar on Thursday with a man whom friends identified as Miguel Suárez, a Mexican labor activist whom Mr. Shabazz had befriended in the United States and who had been recently deported.

When the argument over the tab broke out around 3 a.m. as they prepared to leave, the two were separated by bar employees, but, for reasons the prosecutor said had not yet been determined, only Mr. Shabazz was beaten. A blunt object was used but no other details were given.

Mr. Shabazz’s companion was taken to another part of the bar and robbed but said he managed to escape and call for help.

The pair disputed a tab that came to around $1,200, Mr. Rios Garza said. Two young women had approached them on the street and invited them to the bar, but although Mexican newspapers have identified the bar as a known brothel, Mr. Rios Garza waved off questions regarding prostitution. Many of the bars in that rundown area charge customers for even a conversation with their female employees, according to Mexican news reports.

Mr. Shabazz consumed several drinks; a prosecutor’s office statement said he had a blood alcohol concentration more than three times the legal limit for driving in most American jurisdictions. But the prosecutor, while not offering details on how much liquor was consumed, said the bill was excessive and was part of the effort to rob Mr. Shabazz and his companion.

He said he found no evidence that race or any motive other than robbery was in play, and there was no indication that the attackers knew Mr. Shabazz came from a famous family.

The investigation, however, has had its stumbles.

There were security cameras in the bar, but after a search of the property two days after the attack, video recording equipment was missing and the cameras were turned toward the walls, the prosecutor’s statement said. It was unclear why the search was delayed, but justice reform advocates have long complained that Mexican investigators do not always move with the speed and forensic acumen of the police in the United States.

The police have interviewed Mr. Suárez, who could not be reached for comment.

Mr. Shabazz was 12 when he set a fire in Yonkers that killed his grandmother, Betty Shabazz. After serving prison time, he walked an erratic path away from his troubled youth.

He had gone to Mexico City with Mr. Suárez with plans to draw media attention to his deportation, Mr. Suárez said on Facebook.

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General Discussion / How Social Networks Drive Black Unemployment
« on: May 06, 2013, 08:38:17 AM »

How Social Networks Drive Black Unemployment


By NANCY DITOMASO

It’s easy to believe the worst is over in the economic downturn. But for African-Americans, the pain continues — over 13 percent of black workers are unemployed, nearly twice the national average. And that’s not a new development: regardless of the economy, job prospects for African-Americans have long been significantly worse than for the country as a whole.

The most obvious explanation for this entrenched disparity is racial discrimination. But in my research I have found a somewhat different culprit: favoritism. Getting an inside edge by using help from family and friends is a powerful, hidden force driving inequality in the United States.

Such favoritism has a strong racial component. Through such seemingly innocuous networking, white Americans tend to help other whites, because social resources are concentrated among whites. If African-Americans are not part of the same networks, they will have a harder time finding decent jobs.

The mechanism that reproduces inequality, in other words, may be inclusion more than exclusion. And while exclusion or discrimination is illegal, inclusion or favoritism is not — meaning it can be more insidious and largely immune to legal challenges.

Favoritism is almost universal in today’s job market. In interviews with hundreds of people on this topic, I found that all but a handful used the help of family and friends to find 70 percent of the jobs they held over their lifetimes; they all used personal networks and insider information if it was available to them.

In this context of widespread networking, the idea that there is a job “market” based solely on skills, qualifications and merit is false. Whenever possible, Americans seeking jobs try to avoid market competition: they look for unequal rather than equal opportunity. In fact, the last thing job seekers want to face is equal opportunity; they want an advantage. They want to find ways to cut in line and get ahead.

You don’t usually need a strong social network to land a low-wage job at a fast-food restaurant or retail store. But trying to land a coveted position that offers a good salary and benefits is a different story. To gain an edge, job seekers actively work connections with friends and family members in pursuit of these opportunities.

Help is not given to just anyone, nor is it available from everyone. Inequality reproduces itself because help is typically reserved for people who are “like me”: the people who live in my neighborhood, those who attend my church or school or those with whom I have worked in the past. It is only natural that when there are jobs to be had, people who know about them will tell the people who are close to them, those with whom they identify, and those who at some point can reciprocate the favor.

Because we still live largely segregated lives, such networking fosters categorical inequality: whites help other whites, especially when unemployment is high. Although people from every background may try to help their own, whites are more likely to hold the sorts of jobs that are protected from market competition, that pay a living wage and that have the potential to teach skills and allow for job training and advancement. So, just as opportunities are unequally distributed, they are also unequally redistributed.

All of this may make sense intuitively, but most people are unaware of the way racial ties affect their job prospects.

When I asked my interviewees what most contributed to their level of career success, they usually discussed how hard they had worked and how uncertain were the outcomes — not the help they had received throughout their lives to gain most of their jobs. In fact, only 14 percent mentioned that they had received help of any kind from others. Seeing contemporary labor-market politics through the lens of favoritism, rather than discrimination alone, is revealing. It explains, for example, why even though the majority of all Americans, including whites, support civil rights in principle, there is widespread opposition on the part of many whites to affirmative action policies — despite complaints about “reverse discrimination,” my research demonstrated that the real complaint is that affirmative action undermines long-established patterns of favoritism.

The interviewees in my study who were most angry about affirmative action were those who had relatively fewer marketable skills — and were therefore most dependent on getting an inside edge for the best jobs. Whites who felt entitled to these positions believed that affirmative action was unfair because it blocked their own privileged access.

But interviewees’ feelings about such policies betrayed the reality of their experience of them. I found these attitudes evident among my interviewees — even though, among the 1,463 jobs they discussed with me, there were only two cases in which someone might have been passed over for a job because of affirmative action policies benefiting African-Americans. These data are consistent with other research on affirmative action.

There’s no question that discrimination is still a problem in the American economy. But whites helping other whites is not the same as discrimination, and it is not illegal. Yet it may have a powerful effect on the access that African-Americans and other minorities have to good jobs, or even to the job market itself.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / dey deading ...
« on: May 02, 2013, 07:45:52 PM »
few weeks back chi cheng from the deftones pass.

yesterday, chris kelly - the mack daddy from kriss kross - die at the age of 34.

and now i hearing jeff hanneman from slayer dead from liver failure.

all before their time. RIP x 3.

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General Discussion / Three myths about corruption
« on: February 20, 2013, 07:50:09 PM »
TED reach T&T:

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General Discussion / wdf happening in south africa?
« on: August 17, 2012, 12:19:20 PM »
dis ting read like turn-of-the-century police actions. sickening ...

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South Africa shocked by police shootings at mine


Marikana, South Africa (CNN) -- The headlines Friday in South Africa spoke of a bloodbath, of war.

The morning after carnage at a platinum mine, South Africans grappled with shock, memories of an ugly era resurrected in their minds. The word apartheid surfaced again as people debated the need for such police force.

The police, meanwhile, explained themselves at a news conference, giving reporters the grim toll: 34 mine workers killed, 78 others wounded, 259 arrested on various charges, including malicious damage to property, armed robbery, illegal gathering and possession of weapons. That according to Police Commissioner Riah Phiyega.

She said police "were forced to utilize maximum force to defend themselves."

South African President Jacob Zuma cut short a trip to Mozambique to visit the scene of the shootings Friday afternoon. He announced the government will open an inquiry of the incident.

He reminded South Africans that they must come together to overcome national challenges as they had done before.

"This is not a day to apportion blame," Zuma said. "It is a day for us to mourn together as a nation. It is also a day to start healing."

Mourn, yes, but also a time to think about what had been done, some cried.

"African lives cheap as ever," read a headline in the Sowetan newspaper.

It editorialized that South Africa's economic woes do require a war. "But a different kind of war -- a war of ideas. Not a war that dispenses with human life in as cheaply a manner as we have seen in Marikana."

The tragedy began unfolding a week ago when miners went on strike demanding pay hikes at the mine near Rustenburg, about two hours northwest of Johannesburg.

They were rock drillers who worked at the dangerous depths of the mine, their bodies vibrating for the duration of their eight-hour shift.

"When there is a rock fall, it is generally the drillers who are the victims," wrote journalist Greg Marinovich in the Daily Maverick newspaper. "It is the most dangerous job in the business."

The miners earned between $300 and $500 a month and wanted that raised to $1,500.

It came as no surprise that their multi-national employer, Lonmin, said no to the whopping increase. The world's third largest producer of platinum said the strike was illegal.

The larger problem, however, went beyond a wage dispute.

It had to do with a vicious rivalry between two unions -- the dominant and established National Union of Mineworkers and the splinter Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union which has been encroaching on the former's role.

The National Union of Mineworkers is a close ally of the country's ruling African National Congress. The miners, according to several South African media outlets, feel they are not adequately represented by the battling unions. They say politics gets in the way and that each union vies for miners' support and yet they don't always seek their best interests.

In January, at least three people were killed during a strike at the world's second-largest platinum mine, Impala Platinum. The violence there, too, was also blamed on union rivalry.

The two implicated unions, accused of trying to outdo each other in negotiating wages, denied instigating the clashes.

Tensions at Marikana had mounted throughout the week.

The striking miners carried traditional panga machetes and gathered around a small hill Thursday. Police carried anti-riot equipment and encircled the protesting workers.

By then, at least 10 other people were dead from incidents that occurred in the days before. Among them were two police officers who were hacked to death.

Journalists who were at Marikana said police seemed fed up with the miners. They were determined to resolve the issue.

"Yesterday the police were clear that today we are going to disarm them and remove them from the hill because the gathering is illegal," said Xolile Mngambi, a reporter for CNN affiliate ETV.

By Thursday afternoon, another round of negotiations between the striking miners, the unions and Lonmin failed.

The miners chanted war songs, witnesses said.

A heavily armed police Tactical Response Team moved in to disperse the miners.

What happened next is unclear.

To hear Phiyega, the police commissioner, describe it, the police weighed all their options and made a decision to fence in the miners with barbed wire -- to compartmentalize them into more manageable groups. She defended police actions, saying it was a desperate last measure against protesters who were dangerous.

"The armed protesters moved toward the police," she said. "They were driven back with tear gas and rubber bullets. But when they fired, police used maximum force."

But journalists at the scene could not say whether the protesters fired first.

"We cannot say to you the police were provoked," Mngambi said.

Then, the police unleashed a barrage of gunfire. One witness said it went on for three minutes.

Men dropped to the ground. Some lay motionless; others were still moving. Blood spilled onto the parched earth.

The images spread fast on the news, on the Internet. Marikana was one of the bloodiest incidents since the end of apartheid in 1994.

South Africans were taken back to that time of mandated racial separation and horrific incidents of police brutality against black people. Some likened Marikana to Sharpeville, where in 1960, police fired on a crowd of black demonstrators, killing 69 people.

There was clear evidence, the South African Institute for Race Relations said, that policemen randomly shot into the crowd with rifles and handguns.

"There is also evidence of their continuing to shoot after a number of bodies can be seen dropping and others turning to run. This is reminiscent of the Sharpeville massacre in 1960.

"In our view," the institute said, "what happened at Lonmin is completely unacceptable. We hold no brief for the use of violence in labor or any other disputes. But even if the police were provoked or shot at during yesterday's incident, or were angry at the killing of two police officers in the days before, no disciplined and properly trained policeman would shoot into a crowd. Yesterday's incident was a disaster waiting to happen."

Marikana, said some, exposed deep-rooted problems that have been bubbling in South Africa.

"I think this us a sign of underlying structural issues which you have seen in South Africa for a long time," said Mark Rosenberg, an Africa analyst with the risk research firm Eurasia Group.

"There has been an increase in violent protests both by miners and also by citizens living in townships who are upset with the level and pace of service delivery," he said.

People are no longer willing to sit and wait around for the African National Congress to deliver.

"They are becoming more and more impatient and they're becoming more and more violent as a result," Rosenberg said.

The company's financial officer, Simon Scott, expressed condolences to the family and friends of the workers and police officers who died this week. He said the company would assist with funerals and grief counseling.

Scott said Lonmin has worked for years to achieve good labor relations and said the "illegal strike we've seen is so disappointing and damaging."

"If the industry continues to be damaged by illegal actions it is not just the economy which suffers, but all our employees, their families and dependents," Scott said about South Africa's vital mining sector. "We need our employees to come back to work and we need to get mining again."

But Friday at Marikana, all was quiet. The Lonmin mine remained shut.

On the dry, dusty surrounding streets, a heavy police presence remained. And women searched desperately for husbands, fathers and brothers who did not come home.

A 9-year-old boy said he was convinced he saw his father shot on television.

One of the miners, who did not want to be identified, told CNN that none of the mine workers fired at police. But regardless of whether their actions were legal or illegal, he said, none of this should have happened.

"They should not have died," he said. "All they want is a wage increase."

He said he thought South Africa was a democracy, a nation of free people. But it didn't feel that way this week at Marikana.

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General Discussion / Iran and the Finance world
« on: August 07, 2012, 12:59:15 PM »
some ruction between de brits and yankees. if only de US regulators applied this much zeal to regulating de subprime mortgage market.

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Crazy Details About The Bank That's Been Accused Of Transferring $250 Billion To Iran



U.K. investment bank Standard Chartered could be suspended from operating in New York after state finance regulators found hundreds of billions of dollars worth of transactions with Iran.

"Motivated by greed, SCB acted for at least ten years without any regard for the legal, reputational, and national security consequences of its flagrantly deceptive actions," the New York Department of Financial Services says.

The state regulator alleges the bank colluded on tens of thousands of transactions totaling more than $250 billion, earning Standard Chartered millions in fees.

U.S. regulations prevent financial institutions from making payments to clients before they have determined that they do not originate in a country under sanction, which currently includes Iran, North Korea, and Sudan.

Here are the craziest allegations and details from the report.

Standard Chartered evaded U.S. rules for more than a decade, routing more than 60,000 Iranian transactions.

3. From January 2001 through 2007, SCB conspired with its Iranian Clients to route nearly 60,000 different U.S. dollar payments through SCB’s New York branch after first stripping information from wire transfer messages used to identify sanctioned countries, individuals and entities (“wire stripping”). — Page 3

U.S. executives sent a series of warnings to SCB London.

7. In short, SCB operated as a rogue institution. By 2006, even the New York branch was acutely concerned about the bank’s Iran dollar-clearing program. In October 2006, SCB’s CEO for the Americas sent a panicked message to the Group Executive Director in London. “Firstly,” he wrote, “we believe [the Iranian business] needs urgent reviewing at the Group level to evaluate if its returns and strategic benefits are . . . still commensurate with the potential to cause very serious or even catastrophic reputational damage to the Group.” His plea to the home office continued: “secondly, there is equally importantly potential of risk of subjecting management in US and London (e.g. you and I) and elsewhere to personal reputational damages and/or serious criminal liability.” — Page 4

London responded, saying "You f---ing Americans."

8. Lest there be any doubt, SCB’s obvious contempt for U.S. banking regulations was succinctly and unambiguously communicated by SCB’s Group Executive Director in response. As quoted by an SCB New York branch officer, the Group Director caustically replied: “You f---ing Americans. Who are you to tell us, the rest of the world, that we’re not going to deal with Iranians.” — Page 5  [ :o :whip:]

SCB allegedly went so far as to create formal operating manuals for Iranian routing (!!).

30. Senior SCB management memorialized many of these procedures in formal operating manuals. One such manual entitled, “Quality Operating Procedure Iranian Bank Processing,” directed SCB London employees to “repair payments by making appropriate changes” to transacting party codes. It provided step-by-step wire stripping instructions for any payment messages containing information that would identify Iranian Clients. — Page 13

Since they could not keep up with demand, SCB created electronic systems to process Iranian business.

32. These masking procedures evolved to meet SCB’s growing volume demands. When SCB anticipated that its business with Iranian Clients would grow too large for SCB employees to “repair” manually the instructions for New York bound wire transfers, SCB automated the process by building an electronic repair system with “specific repair queues,” for each Iranian Client. — Page 14

 As other banks stopped working with Iran, SCB worked to gain market share.

35. Beginning in 2003, other banks with significant Iran portfolios began exiting the U-Turn business. For instance, SCB’s business managers learned that Lloyds TSB London were “withdrawing their services” with one of its Iranian client banks “primarily for reputational risk reasons.” Rather than follow suit, and despite concerns regarding reputational risk and OFAC sanctions, SCB positioned itself to take the abandoned market share. — Page 15

SCB called the Iranian routing Project Gazelle.

36. As described in a December 2005 internal memorandum written by SCB’s CEO for the United Arab Emirates and the Group Head of Compliance and Regulatory Risk, entitled “Project Gazelle, Report on Iranian Business – which was circulated among SCB’s key legal, compliance, and Iranian Client business managers – SCB’s "short to medium term strategy [was] to grow the wholesale business by growing our wallet share from existing relationships with Financial Institutions and Iranian companies and establishing new relationships with Iranian companies and [intermediaries] in oil and gas related businesses.” — Page 15

SCB allegedly asked its auditer, Deloitte, to water down its reports

45. Having improperly gleaned insights into the regulators’ concerns and strategies for investigating U-Turn-related misconduct, SCB asked D&T to delete from its draft “independent” report any reference to certain types of payments that could ultimately reveal SCB’s Iranian U-Turn practices. In an email discussing D&T’s draft, a D&T partner admitted that “we agreed” to SCB’s request because “this is too much and too politically sensitive for both SCB and Deloitte. That is why I drafted the watered-down version.” — Page 19

SCB allegedly withheld data from the U.S. after regulators made requests

48. In September 2006, New York regulators requested from SCB statistics on Iranian U-Turns, including the number and dollar volume of such transactions for a 12 month period. In response, SCB searched its records for 2005 and 2006, and uncovered 2,626 transactions totaling over $16 billion. SCB’s Head of Compliance at the New York branch provided the data to SCB’s CEO for the Americas, who in turn, sent it to the SCB Group Executive Director in London. In his memorandum to the Executive Director, the CEO expressed concern that this data would be the “wildcard entrant” in the ongoing review of U-Turns by regulators and could lead to “catastrophic reputational damage to the [bank].” Based on direction from “the powers that be,” SCB’s Head of Compliance in New York provided only four days of U-Turn data to regulators. — Page 20

SCB outsourced compliance to India to avoid communication with the U.S.

54.3 Outsourcing of the entire OFAC compliance process for the New York branch to Chennai, India, with no evidence of any oversight or communication between the Chennai and the New York offices. — Page 22 [ oh fawk indeed ]

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General Discussion / In-flight meltdown
« on: August 01, 2012, 07:52:40 PM »
somehow dis make news....
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Woman's behaviour on flight to Jamaica unnerves passengers

A woman boarded a Caribbean Airlines plane in Toronto and displayed erratic behaviour while the flight made its way to Jamaica, says a passenger who claims the flight attendants failed to control the situation.

Portions of the incident on Monday were captured on cellphone cameras and subsequently posted online.

Sweets Lawrence said the trouble began almost immediately after passengers boarded the plane.

She jumped up and she started cursing," Lawrence told CBC News in an interview over Skype, explaining what she saw on the July 30 flight.

The situation escalated when the plane was in the air, to a point where the unidentified female passenger left her seat and brandished a nail file.

"She came up the aisle with the nail file and she was there to and fro with it and everybody was getting agitated because we were all nervous, we were all scared," said Lawrence.

"We had persons literally running from their seats. Kids were crying, big adults were crying, people were horrified."

Lawrence says that the flight attendants did not stop the woman, even after she allegedly tried to enter the cockpit.

"I got up and I said: ‘Somebody needs to tie this woman up,’" Lawrence said.

"And I started asking the flight attendants to get something to tie her up. They said they were afraid."

Caribbean Airlines did not immediately respond to email and phone messages from CBC News.

The Greater Toronto Airports Authority told CBC News that it is the responsibility of the airline to ask for security or police help when there is trouble.

However, Caribbean Airlines made no such request on July 30.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Breaking Bad thread
« on: July 25, 2012, 08:01:56 PM »
Anybody vibesing the new season of Breaking Bad?

This is the 5th and final season, but it is split between 8 episodes first half and 8 more episodes second half, 16 to come in all.

First 2 episodes was good... Mike moving like ah dread badman.. I interested to see the direction they take the series now that Gus out the picture. Interestingly enough, the first 2 episodes seem to be focusing on specific characters and we not seeing much of the other characters that had their own storylines going like Saul, Hank wife, Walt family etc.  I guess they still setting the stage.

yeah, that opening scene from episode 2 was mad. from "franch" to the auto defibrilator. walt turn into a real creepy MF. skyler have some fight though - ah feel she have a few stunts to pull again. and mike making moves - all this talk about walking away and inexplicably he back in?!

but lydia - wda?! she seem like a marie antoinette - real unstable.

The season 4 finale show me that Walt is ah sick individual. If i didn't see it i wouldn't ah believe he went to them lengths, and he still toting Jesse on a string.

Mike hadda jump back in because he realize after the meeting that if his fellahs doh see their money, they will cave in and sell him out and then he going down.. That is what went on with Mr. Chow and the other fellah that got sent for him.

But Mike expressions (or lack thereof) does kill me. He doh cater, the scene in the interrogation room was epic.

Only thing i struggling with is this having to wait every week for an episode. I really preferred to watch out a season back to back on my own timing.


dinho, yuh have me thinking about this some more.

mike seem confident that none of the crew that lydia had in her note was going to roll to the police. but that scene in the diner with lydia show another angle - pulling a goodfellas on the whole crew (like what de niro did) to guarantee all loose ends done.

this seem to harken back to that talk he had with walt about taking the half measure instead of the full measure. in this case, lydia wanted the full measure and mike seemed content with waiting it out - a half measure. yeah, that scene with chow showed him he needed a new plan.

thing is, he know everyone on that list and he should be able to see them coming from a mile away. ah mean, he knew the scene with chow was a set up. ah doh see why he should be worried about the people identified by lydia - after all she valued his head at 30K and the others at 10K. like they does say, the wolf doh study de sheep (or something like that). that's the part i think is kind of weak.

ah mean, partnering with walt/jesse will get some money flowing, but the real threat is lydia. ah get the feeling mike cyah be matching funds with lydia, money eh go solve that friction.

what ah missing?

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that name for real?
==

Former NBA star Dennis Rodman finally meets father



MANILA, Philippines (AP) -- Former NBA star Dennis Rodman has finally met his estranged father after 42 years of separation, following an exhibition game in the Philippines.

Philander Rodman Jr., who has acknowledged fathering 29 children by 16 mothers, says he was happy and surprised that his son agreed to meet him late Wednesday. He tried to meet the basketball Hall of Famer during another game in Manila in 2006.

"It was great," he said Thursday of the first time he held his son's hands since they last met in December 1969.

"I've been trying to meet him for years. And then last night, boom, I met him. I was really, really happy and very surprised," he told The Associated Press.

The NBA "Alumni" team, which also included Scott Pippen, Horace Grant, and Mitch Richmond, played against former top professional Philippine Basketball Association players in the All-Star Challenge. The Alumni won.

Philander, who has been living in the Philippines for nearly 50 years, said he wanted to explain to his son that he didn't abandon his family in the United States, but they only had time for greetings and handshakes.

He said he spent only about three minutes with his son, who was also busy signing autographs.

"I really, really felt good," he said. "It's the beginning of something new."

He gave his number to his son who promised to call.

He said his son did not even want to talk about him six years ago, but he was encouraged to try again to meet him after Tuesday's press conference where the former Pistons and Bulls star invited him to watch Wednesday's game.

"I don't hate the guy that brought me into this world," Dennis Rodman told reporters. "The fact is, if I saw him, I'll just tell him, `You know, you're a friend of mine."'

During a break, with seconds left to the end of the game, Dennis Rodman grabbed a microphone acknowledged his father's presence and pointed to him in the arena.

The crowd applauded as the elder Rodman stood up wearing a red baseball cap that said "Yes, Dennis Rodman is my son."

The 71-year-old Vietnam War veteran now operates the Rodman's Rainbow Obamaburger restaurant in northern Angeles City.

He said his restaurant menu includes burgers with red, yellow and green colored buns and fries, colors associated with his flamboyant son.

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General Discussion / islam in mali
« on: July 05, 2012, 08:43:58 AM »
dese wahhabbi dunces is de worst. why dey doh try this in saudi arabia?

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Timbuktu tomb destroyers pulverise Islam's history

..(Reuters) - The al Qaeda-linked Islamist fighters who have used pick-axes, shovels and hammers to shatter earthen tombs and shrines of local saints in Mali's fabled desert city of Timbuktu say they are defending the purity of their faith against idol worship.

But historians say their campaign of destruction in the UNESCO-listed city is pulverising part of the history of Islam in Africa, which includes a centuries-old message of tolerance.

"They are striking at the heart of what Timbuktu stands for ... Mali and the world are losing a lot," Souleymane Bachir Diagne, a professor at New York's Columbia University and an expert on Islamic philosophy in Africa, told Reuters.

Over the last three days, Islamists of the Ansar Dine rebel group which in April seized Mali's north along with Tuareg separatists destroyed at least eight Timbuktu mausoleums and several tombs, centuries-old shrines reflecting the local Sufi version of Islam in what is known as the "City of 333 Saints".

For centuries in Timbuktu, an ancient Saharan trading depot for salt, gold and slaves which developed into a famous seat of Islamic learning and survived occupations by Tuareg, Bambara, Moroccan and French invaders, local people have worshipped at the shrines, seeking the intercession of the holy individuals.

This kind of popular Sufi tradition of worship is anathema to Islamists like the Ansar Dine fighters - Defenders of the Faith - who adhere to Salafism, which is linked to the Wahhabi puritanical branch of Sunni Islam found in Saudi Arabia.

"A Salafi would say that creating a culture of saints is akin to idol-worshipping," Diagne said. Unlike Christianity, where the clergy formally confers sainthood, the veneration of "saints" in various, non-Wahhabi, strands of Islam largely arises from popular reverence for pious historical figures.

Rejecting a wave of outrage inside and outside Mali against the shrine destructions, an Ansar Dine spokesman in Timbuktu, Sanda Ould Boumama, defiantly told French radio RFI at the weekend that the actions were in line with the group's aim of installing sharia Islamic law across all of divided Mali.

"Human beings cannot be elevated higher than God ... When the Prophet entered Mecca, he said that all the mausoleums should be destroyed. And that's what we're repeating," Boumama said.

In what she called a "cry from the heart" for world help to halt the destruction, Malian Culture Minister Diallo Fadima Toure told a UNESCO World Heritage Committee meeting in St. Petersburg on Sunday that Ansar Dine's depredations had "nothing to do with Islam, a religion of peace and tolerance".

"Are we just going to let this go and stand and watch? Today this is happening in Mali, tomorrow where will it be?".

"CRIME AGAINST HISTORY"

Experts are comparing the Timbuktu tomb destructions to similar attacks against Sufi shrines by hardline Salafists in Egypt and Libya in the past year. The attacks also recall al Qaeda attacks on Shi'ite shrines in Iraq in the past decade and the 2001 dynamiting by the Taliban of two 6th-century statues of Buddha carved into a cliff in Bamiyan in central Afghanistan.

"It's against everybody and everything," said University of Cape Town Professor Shamil Jeppie, an expert on Timbuktu who co-edited with Diagne a 2008 study, "The Meanings of Timbuktu", on the city's priceless archaeology and ancient manuscripts.

Mali's government in the capital Bamako about 1,000 km (600 miles) south has condemned the attacks, but is powerless to halt them after its army was routed by rebels in April. It is still struggling to bolster a return to civilian rule after a March 22 coup that emboldened the rebel uprising further north.

Some believe the tomb-wrecking onslaught by Ansar Dine, which is led by Tuareg chieftain turned Salafist Iyad Ag Ghali, may have been directly triggered by UNESCO's decision on Thursday to accept the Mali government's urgent request to put Timbuktu on a list of endangered World Heritage sites.

"That is meaningless to Ansar Dine; what is UNESCO to them?" said Jeppie. Just as northern Nigerian Islamist militants are carrying out bloody bombings and shootings under the name Boko Haram (which broadly means "Western education is sinful"), so Ansar Dine's fighters may see UNESCO as an emblem of Western heresy.

"They are not scholars; they are foot soldiers," added Jeppie, adding they were probably unaware that Timbuktu, which was an alluring mirage of exoticism and remoteness for 19th-century European explorers, represented multiple and varied layers of Islamic tradition deposited like sand over centuries.

Its long history had tracked the turbulent rise and fall of the great African empires of Ghana, Mali and Songhai.

"Timbuktu was sacked many times before," said Jeppie.

"But we have had no events of destruction of monuments, mosques and tombs. It never happened before."

The UNESCO ambassadors meeting in St. Petersburg on Tuesday joined Malian Culture Minister Toure in appealing to global governments and organisations and "all people of goodwill" to act to prevent the prevent the destruction of the Timbuktu monuments by "vandals".

"We consider this action to be a crime against history," the appeal said.

UNESCO's World Heritage Committee called on the agency's director general, Irina Bokova, who has already roundly condemned the Timbuktu damage, to create a special fund to help Mali preserve its cultural patrimony from attack. It asked UNESCO members and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to provide financial resources for this fund.

PURITY OVER POPULARITY?

Just as gold-hungry 19th-century European travellers who first cast eyes on Timbuktu were disappointed to find, not glittering minarets and palaces, but a desert-rimmed cluster of dun-coloured homes and mosques, so some observers might view the city's mausoleums and tombs as modest when compared with the architectural opulence of, say, Rome or Athens or Damascus.

The rectangular local mausoleums mimic the desert earthen architecture of the city's still imposing and renowned Sankore, Sidi Yahya and Djingarei-ber mosques, the latter Timbuktu's oldest, built in mud-brick and wood in 1325.

"They are mud structures, nothing fancy at all," said Columbia University's Diagne - and so the more easily reduced to dust by the pick-axes and shovels of the Ansar Dine combatants.

But rather than visual splendour, it is what the tombs represent for Africa's history, and especially the history of Islam in Africa, than concerns historians and scholars.

They make the point that relatively few physical vestiges remain of the great Sahelian empire states that flourished and then died out centuries ago, and the damage inflicted in Timbuktu will reduce that archaeological heritage further.

They are scratching their heads as to why Ansar Dine and its well-armed allies, who hijacked a separatist uprising by local Tuareg MNLA rebels following the March coup in the Malian capital Bamako, would risk offending local sensibilities by destroying revered shrines in occupied cities like Timbuktu.

"They are more worried about purity than about being unpopular", is the explanation Diagne offers.

Scholars are also fretting about the fate of tens of thousands of ancient and brittle manuscripts, some from the 13th century, housed in libraries and private collections in Timbuktu. Academics say these prove Africa had a written history at least as old as the European Renaissance.

Days after the rebels took Timbuktu, local academics, librarians and citizens were hiding away the manuscripts to stop them being damaged or looted.

Jeppie said researchers had since fled the city. Some collectors had smuggled their rarest documents out to Bamako.

Diagne said the biggest fear was that historic manuscripts and artefacts would become the object of looting and trafficking for profit - just another trading commodity in the trackless Sahara, where trafficking in drugs, arms and migrants has replaced the old caravans of slaves, salt and gold.

He found it deeply ironic that the Ansar Dine tomb destroyers, who said they were upholding the name of Islam, were ignoring and denying through their acts the rich layered history and geographical spread of this great global religion.

Noting the role Sufi believers played in spreading Islam beyond its Arabian heartland, Diagne said: "If it had not been for the Sufi orders, Islam would have been a local religion."

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Other Sports / NHL playoffs 2012
« on: April 26, 2012, 07:21:32 AM »
Nice game 7 last night between the defending champs Boston Bruins and the Washington Capitals. Each game has been decided by 1 goal and game 7 was no exception. Joel Ward scores the OT game winner!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/YYjFmwbsvtg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/YYjFmwbsvtg</a>

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General Discussion / Arizona bill could criminalize Internet trolling
« on: April 03, 2012, 09:09:44 PM »
this come like a warning shot for bakes.  ;)

==


Arizona bill could criminalize Internet trolling


Arizona marches to the beat of its own drummer. But if that drummer gets upset and starts hollering on the Internet, he might get tossed in the clink.

After spending years targeting illegal aliens, the Grand Canyon State is turning its sights on obnoxious Internet users (commonly called 'trolls'). A new update to the state's telecommunications harassment bill could make the practice of harassing people online illegal.
Arizona House Bill 2549 has already passed both of the state's legislative bodies and is currently sitting on the desk of Governor Jan Brewer. While there's a lot in there that doesn't concern trolling, here's the line that has people worried:

It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use ANY ELECTRONIC OR DIGITAL DEVICE and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.

Violators could be charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor and face up to 6 months in jail. If electronic devices are used to stalk someone, the charges then become a Class 3 felony, with penalties ranging from a minimum sentence of two and a half years in jail for non-dangerous offenders with no prior record to 25 years.

At the heart of the bill is an anti-bullying agenda. Cyber-bullying has been on the rise in recent years and has been in the news lately. A 2010 report in The New York Times found that one of out five middle-school students said they had been victims of cyberbullying.

Despite its good intentions, the Arizona law is already being called "overly broad" by critics. By using vague terms like "annoy" and "offend," it could easily encompass Internet forums or even comments like the ones found at the end of this story.

Free speech groups say they don't believe the law would ever stand up to court scrutiny if Gov. Brewer does, in fact, sign it. And many have pointed out the flaws in the bill to the governor herself.

"Government may criminalize speech that rises to the level of harassment and many states have laws that do so, but this legislation takes a law meant to address irritating phone calls and applies it to communication on web sites, blogs, listserves and other Internet communication," Media Coalition wrote in a letter last week.

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General Discussion / Obamacare Thread
« on: April 03, 2012, 11:44:31 AM »
obamacare at the supreme court before last week, there was a poll taken amongst lawyers and 85% believed obamacare would survive intact after the supreme court reviewed the case.

intrade now has the odds of obamacare surviving at 40%.

insurance people sweating.

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General Discussion / US soldier goes off in afghanistan - kills 16
« on: March 11, 2012, 08:01:12 PM »

Sixteen Afghan civilians killed in rogue U.S. attack


(Reuters) - Sixteen Afghan civilians, including nine children, were shot dead in what witnesses described as a nighttime massacre on Sunday near a U.S. base in southern Afghanistan, and one U.S. soldier was in custody.

While U.S. officials rushed to draw a line between the rogue shooting and the ongoing efforts of a U.S. force of around 90,000, the incident is sure to further inflame Afghan anger triggered when U.S. soldiers burned copies of the Koran at a NATO base.

U.S. officials said an American staff sergeant from a unit based in Washington state was in custody after the attack on villagers in three houses. Multiple civilians were also wounded, a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) coalition said

President Barack Obama called his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai promising to establish the facts quickly and "to hold fully accountable anyone responsible."

There were conflicting reports of how many shooters were involved, with U.S. officials asserting that a lone soldier was responsible, in contrast to witnesses' accounts that several U.S. soldiers were present.

The incident was one of the worst of its kind since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

The U.S. Embassy in Kabul said anti-U.S. reprisals were possible following the killings, just as the Koran burning incident a few weeks earlier had touched off widespread anti-Western protests in which at least 30 people died.

Neighbors and relatives of the dead said they had seen a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at about 2 a.m., enter homes and open fire.

An Afghan man who said his children were killed in the shooting spree accused soldiers of later burning the bodies.

Obama said he was deeply saddened. "This incident is tragic and shocking and does not represent the exceptional character of our military and the respect that the United States has for the people of Afghanistan," Obama said in a statement.

"INTENTIONAL MURDERS"

Afghan President Karzai condemned the rampage as "intentional murders" and demanded an explanation from the United States. His office said the dead included nine children and three women.

Afghan officials also gave varying accounts of the number of shooters involved. Karzai's office released a statement quoting a villager as saying "American soldiers woke my family up and shot them in the face."

Minister of Border and Tribal Affairs Asadullah Khalid said a U.S. soldier had burst into three homes near his base in the middle of the night, killing a total of 16 people including 11 people in the first house.

The ISAF spokesman said the U.S. soldier "walked back to the base and turned himself into U.S. forces this morning," adding there had been no military operations taking place in the area when the incident occurred.

Panjwayi district is about 35 km (22 miles) west of the provincial capital Kandahar city. The district is considered the spiritual home of the Taliban and has been a hive of insurgent activity in recent years.

"I saw that all 11 of my relatives were killed, including my children and grandchildren," said a weeping Haji Samad, who said he had left his home a day earlier.

BLOOD-SPATTERED WALLS

The walls of the house were blood-splattered.

"They (Americans) poured chemicals over their dead bodies and burned them," Samad told Reuters at the scene.

Neighbors said they had awoken to crackling gunfire from American soldiers, who they described as laughing and drunk.

"They were all drunk and shooting all over the place," said neighbor Agha Lala, who visited one of the homes where killings took place.

"Their (the victims') bodies were riddled with bullets."

A senior U.S. defense official in Washington rejected witness accounts that several apparently drunk soldiers were involved. "Based on the preliminary information we have this account is flatly wrong," the official said. "We believe one U.S. service member acted alone, not a group of U.S. soldiers."

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta called Karzai to offer his condolences. "I condemn such violence and am shocked and saddened that a U.S. service member is alleged to be involved, clearly acting outside his chain of command," Panetta said in a statement. "A full investigation is already under way. A suspect is in custody and I gave President Karzai my assurances that we will bring those responsible to justice."

The Afghan Taliban said it would take revenge for the deaths, in an emailed statement to media.

The U.S. Embassy in Kabul said an investigation was under way and that "the individual or individuals responsible for this act will be identified and brought to justice."

ISAF Commander General John Allen promised a rapid investigation.

Civilian casualties have been a major source of friction between Karzai's Western-backed government and U.S.-led NATO forces in Afghanistan. NATO is preparing to hand over all security responsibilities to Afghans and all foreign combat troops are scheduled to leave by end-2014.

NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the alliance remained firmly committed to its mission and said anyone responsible would be held accountable.

The Koran burning and the violence that followed, including a spate of deadly attacks against U.S. soldiers, underscored the challenges that the West faces as it prepares to withdraw.

Sunday's attack may harden a growing consensus in Washington that, despite a troop surge, a war bill exceeding $500 billion over 10-1/2 years and almost 2,000 U.S. lives lost, prospects are dimming for what the United States can accomplish in Afghanistan.

"These killings only serve to reinforce the mindset that the whole war is broken and that there's little we can do about it beyond trying to cut our losses and leave," said Joshua Foust, a security expert with the American Security Project.

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General Discussion / hitchens gone
« on: December 16, 2011, 10:14:52 AM »
christopher hitchens RIP.

great debater. great writer. great drinker (johnny walker red was his favourite).

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General Discussion / Occupy movements
« on: October 16, 2011, 08:07:59 AM »
All dem Marxists out on de street in Madrid, New York, London, etc.

De political and corporate ignoring dese actions. Just waiting for Clinton to appear saying how he happy to live in a country where people have de freedom to mount ineffectual protests.

Nothing short of money will get de attention of Wall Street.

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General Discussion / Yemen drone attack kills al-awlaki
« on: October 04, 2011, 01:31:01 PM »
ah see from de SOE thread dey have some civil libertarians and legal eagles on de forum ... or at least wannabes.

well, de former constitutional law professor turn president, may come to be known as de Drone President. not just for his penchant to drone on and on from de lecturn as a substitute for action or leadership, but for greatly increasing de number of drone attacks in de middle east.

so far no body eh say boo to these executions but de latest are two americans. one fella names al-awlaki is making de news.

de prez putting he name to extrajudicial killings of americans suspected but never charged with terrorism. like al-awlaki is troy davis too.

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / TIFF: Best Canadian short film
« on: September 18, 2011, 05:19:57 PM »
Ah lapse. De film festival wrap up today here in Toronto. Ah check for de Rasta flick mention in de Rastafari thread but it was not in de schedule so sounds like de debut is somewhere else.

De second lapse was missing de flick dat won de Best Canadian short film: Doubles with Slight Pepper by Toronto's Ian Harnarine. De film was set in Trini. Anyone see it?

Looks like de film get some funding from kickstarter - Contro yuh remember we discussed this site?!

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Football / Javi Poves fed up
« on: August 11, 2011, 12:24:59 PM »
sound like he give up making dat national team

==


Fed up Spanish player quits football


by PAUL LOGOTHETIS, AP Sports Writer



MADRID (AP) — Javi Poves finally achieved what most football players dream of, getting to taste the riches of the professional game.

For the 24-year-old Spaniard, that taste was sour enough to make him immediately walk away from the table.

Poves was a promising defender with Sporting Gijon and made his debut with the Spanish club's topflight team toward the end of last season. But instead of eyeing the future with promise, Poves' already disillusioned attitude toward the game only grew stronger as he got a firsthand look at being a top-level athlete.

So he made a decision that has turned heads all over Spain: he strode into the offices of Sporting in July and quit.

"It's all about money and players are just playing to distract people from what's happening in the real world," Poves told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "These things started driving me crazy and gradually I came to this decision."

Poves' pronouncement stunned many in Spain, where football helps unite a country that is staggering through an economic crisis with unemployment at more than 20 percent. The national team is the World Cup and European champion and Spain's league advertises itself as the world's best thanks to clubs like Barcelona and Real Madrid.

"It surprised me to see him retire so soon because he had all the qualities to keep playing," teammate David Barral, who shared a room with Poves on the road, was quoted as saying in La Nueva Espana newspaper. "He has his own ideas and I have mine. But I support him because he's my friend, he's got a great heart."

El Pais newspaper labeled him "The Angry Footballer," [Ed - The Mad Footballer more like] while other media outlets called him anti-football because of his rejection of the game.

For Poves, however, it was simply a matter of putting his own values above money.

"My motivation in training fell off and the club wasn't happy for me to continue on like that. So I quit because of my ideas which, agreed, aren't so common (in football)," Poves said.

He is now living at his parents home in Madrid, where he is mapping out his new future.

Poves made it clear that his decision wasn't meant to be a political statement, and that he doesn't want to be associated with the larger protest movements that have attracted angry young Spaniards — labeled as the "indignados" — who are frustrated by the lack of future prospects due to the dragging economic crisis.

"I'm just one person more. But because I'm a football player this decision causes more repercussions," Poves said. "It's not normal but I have to accept it."

In a week when Real Madrid drew headlines for signing a 7-year-old prospect, Poves said part of the reason he quit was because of the values young players are being taught by the clubs themselves.

"Players are seen as egoists who fight day-in, day-out just to make more money," Poves said. "But that's not the players' fault. They've been programmed, educated to believe that and nothing else. They instill these values from a young age." [Ed - Warneritis]

Poves said Sporting teammates and officials — including coach Manolo Preciado — had been fair with him despite his outspoken views.

While the majority of his teammates didn't agree with his perspective, Poves' decision has still filtered into the changing room chatter going into the new season.

"Inside the locker room it's been pretty much a revolution this year," Poves said.

He said he now plans to travel to the Middle East, most likely Iran, and read more books. He said he is currently sifting through the Torah.

"Society is telling us not to believe in anything. So everyone thinks the only God alive is themselves," he said. "I don't know if there is a God or not, but we can garner many important things from religion.

"(But) it's true, I'm going through a confusing time right now."

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General Discussion / Famine in Somalia
« on: August 04, 2011, 10:50:40 AM »
a little surprised no thread on this current event has been created yet. perhaps ah miss it.

apparently there is only one american news agency in de region doing any coverage of note.

dey reporting how the trek to refugee camps across de border is killing alot of babies and children to de point de demographics of de region are changing - baby bust instead of baby boom.

the news people saying this so-called islamist group al shabab are preventing somalis from fleeing to de refugee camps. wdf? dat is islam? den islam is a real blight to de people in dis region. ah mean, when japan had de earthquake, even de yakuza were hauling arse to make sure people got food, water, medicine. al shabab must mean "soulless" in arabic. steups.

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General Discussion / Black men survive longer in prison than out
« on: July 15, 2011, 08:38:25 AM »
a few weeks ago, a man stole $1 from a bank so he could see a prison doctor. dis ting bigger oui  :o

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Black men survive longer in prison than out: study


By Genevra Pittman

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Black men are half as likely to die at any given time if they're in prison than if they aren't, suggests a new study of North Carolina inmates.

The black prisoners seemed to be especially protected against alcohol- and drug-related deaths, as well as lethal accidents and certain chronic diseases.

But that pattern didn't hold for white men, who on the whole were slightly more likely to die in prison than outside, according to findings published in Annals of Epidemiology.

Researchers say it's not the first time a study has found lower death rates among certain groups of inmates -- particularly disadvantaged people, who might get protection against violent injuries and murder.

"Ironically, prisons are often the only provider of medical care accessible by these underserved and vulnerable Americans," said Hung-En Sung of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

"Typically, prison-based care is more comprehensive than what inmates have received prior to their admission," Sung, who wasn't involved in the new study, told Reuters Health by email.

The new study involved about 100,000 men between age 20 and 79 who were held in North Carolina prisons at some point between 1995 and 2005. Sixty percent of those men were black.

Researchers linked prison and state health records to determine which of the inmates died, and of what causes, during their prison stay. Then they compared those figures with expected deaths in men of the same age and race in the general population.

Less than one percent of men died during incarceration, and there was no difference between black and white inmates. But outside prison walls, blacks have a higher rate of death at any given age than whites.

"What's very sad about this is that if we are able to all of a sudden equalize or diminish these health inequalities that you see by race inside a place like prison, it should also be that in places like a poor neighborhood we should be able to diminish these sort of inequities," said Evelyn Patterson, who studies correctional facilities at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

"If it can be done (in prison), then certainly it can happen outside of prison," Patterson, who wasn't linked to the new work, told Reuters Health.

As in the general population, cancer and heart and blood vessel diseases were the most common cause of death among inmates -- accounting for more than half of deaths.

White prisoners died of cardiovascular diseases as often as expected and died of cancer slightly more often than non-prisoners.

Black inmates, by contrast, were between 30 and 40 percent less likely to die of those causes than those who weren't incarcerated. They were also less likely to die of diabetes, alcohol- and drug-related causes, airway diseases, accidents, suicide and murder than black men not in prison.

All told, their risk of death at any age was only half that of men living in the community.

For white men, the overall death rate was slightly higher -- by about 12 percent -- than in the general population, with some of that attributed to higher rates of death from infection, including HIV and hepatitis. When the researchers broke prisoners up by age, death rates were only higher for white prisoners age 50 and older.

"For some populations, being in prison likely provides benefits in regards to access to healthcare and life expectancy," said study author Dr. David Rosen, from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

But, he added in an email, "it's important to remember that there are many possible negative consequences of imprisonment -- for example, broken relationships, loss of employment opportunities, and greater entrenchment in criminal activity -- that are not reflected in our study findings but nevertheless have an important influence on prisoners' lives and their overall health."

For Rosen, one of the main messages from the study is the need to make the world outside of prison walls safer, and to make sure people living there have adequate access to healthcare.

SOURCE: bit.ly/o7a7st Annals of Epidemiology, online July 7, 2011.

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General Discussion / GOP field
« on: June 17, 2011, 09:00:34 AM »
check dis fella herman cain:

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de man say "in de words of de Gipper"  :rotfl:

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Entertainment & Culture Discussion / Game of Thrones
« on: June 06, 2011, 07:09:45 PM »
anyone following dis HBO series or read de books?

that dwarf tyrion is a boss.

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Other Sports / stanley cup 2011
« on: June 02, 2011, 07:22:54 PM »
WC come on and break dat vow of silence. ah want to hear what it like in Canuckland!

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