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Football / Re: BANDWAGONISTA EXPERIMENT
« on: September 14, 2009, 10:16:57 AM »
All in one season; Bendtner, Eboue and Adebayor got Booed in their OWN stadium BY THEIR OWN "FANS"!  Eboue was crying coming off the field when the boos was raining on him and he collect the Cobo sweat! That to me, is much more disgraceful and hurtful than what Addy do...At least anyone wearing a Man city jersey will show more respect and loyalty to their OWN players! steuupssss....who more fikkle than an Arsenal fan? Allyuh know how to stand by anything? Even Wenger, at the end of the year get berated! steupssss.....Do yuh forkin ting Addy boy! Ah find yuh cudda kiss the City Crest too during that 15 foot slide on yuh knees... maybe at the Emirates?  ;)

p.s. GunnerStunner; am i "inciting" you?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 13, 2009, 09:45:13 AM »
hell hath no fury  :rotfl:

more like, a woman scorned:)

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 12, 2009, 07:38:03 PM »
haha... arsenal players and fans alike is the best oui.... of course, deflect the attention from the CUT-ASS allyuh colleck! just like the Man U game a couple weeks ago! back then was Fletcher right? Allyuh could never lose gracefully! Is always somebody else fault!!!! same shit, different year.  Arsenal is shit for 5 years running and will be shit as long as Wenger and his Policies remain. take allyuh licks and crawl in a corner please! That lil boysquad aint ready yet! Do yuh forkin ting Addy, only you felt what them fikkle Arsenal fans put yuh through.  Express yuhself horsey. Hopefully Eboue dothe same once he leave too! Which odder team does be booing they own players like that?

Amen....Setta wagonist and Hollywood supporters with no real ties to that team.  That shit woudda never happen at Chelsea, Man U or 'Pool.  I ain't hera Chelsea supporters booing Terry, and he take kinda long to quash rumors of a move to Man City.

Horse, Drogba wuz worse than Terry! Was like 3 years straight he was batting eyes with all kinda teams! a whole season and a half too-tooing down heself.  Yuh ever hear Drogba get Boo from chelsea Fans?  Steups.  Arsenal fans have a real false sense of entitlement!  Get over yourselves!

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: September 12, 2009, 06:13:35 PM »
haha... arsenal players and fans alike is the best oui.... of course, deflect the attention from the CUT-ASS allyuh colleck! just like the Man U game a couple weeks ago! back then was Fletcher right? Allyuh could never lose gracefully! Is always somebody else fault!!!! same shit, different year.  Arsenal is shit for 5 years running and will be shit as long as Wenger and his Policies remain. take allyuh licks and crawl in a corner please! That lil-boy squad aint ready yet! Do yuh forkin ting Addy, only you felt what them fikkle Arsenal fans put yuh through.  Express yuhself horsey. Hopefully Eboue does the same once he leave too! Which odder team does be booing they own players like that?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: July 24, 2009, 04:52:32 PM »
2004/2005   Chelsea 95 points   Arsenal 83 points   12 points
2005/2006   Chelsea 91 points   Arsenal 67 points   24 points
2006/2007   Man U 89 points   Arsenal 68 points     21 points
2007/2008   Man U 87 points   Arsenal 83 points     4 points
2007/2008   Man U 90 points   Arsenal 72 points     18 points

Facts..... 2007/2008 is more an outlier when it comes to tha last 5 years, Mr Gunner.  As i said, ya'll FAR off still and just lost your best striker. Look Sunderland just buy one ah allyuh "top prospects" too for a cool 5 Milli...  haha... allyuh aint fed up take picong? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/8168337.stm

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: July 24, 2009, 11:18:30 AM »
 Thank you Dinho.  Maryland Trini, no one "likes" when their players are linked to other teams, or don't show their "loyalty," right off the bat, when rumours are circulating.  But football is more of a business.  It's a business not only for the clubs, but for the players as well.  Your club, as Dinho points out has some ridiculous policies wheareas players salaries/age is concerned.  How would you feel if your employer set an age barrier for some employees and not others when it comes to new contracts.  how is that looking out for the employees well being?   

Adebayor has all the right to flirt elsewhere, as well as any player does, in seeking a better (WINNING) club and better wages.  Maybe if arsenal WON something in his time there, or bought the players/show the ambition to WIN something he would have showed the "loyalty" you talk about.  How much longer you giving Cesc?  I want you to go back and look at you and gunner-stunner's pre-season posts for the past couple years.  You guys repeat the same shit every year now.  "Potential,"  "Young," and "We sould have enough" are catch phrases constantly used. 

Stop.  Everybody and they grand-mammy could see that you DO NOT have the power to compete with the TOP THREE anymore.  It's been more of a question of when Arsenal is going to drop out of the "top four" (and i use that term loosely), than when you are going to actually challenge for the title again.  The point spread between you and the top finishing team the past 5 years has been deplorable.   You just lost your best striker.  Your team just got weaker.  That team is miles away from a serious title challenge yet another season...

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: July 24, 2009, 07:47:32 AM »
Do yuh thing boy Addy.... Doe study dem spoilt, fikkle Arsenal fans.... Look how they boo down Eboue too.  No blasted grattitude.  Steven Gerrard was flirting with Chelsea 2 seasons straight and never get the treatment you did.  Didier Drogba forever making comments about who wants him and how he want to leave.  The list goes on and on.  Now they sour-grapsing yuh up, talking chupidness bout lazy and selfish and ting. Go to a club that appreciate yuh goals, yuh aerial prowess, guile and skill.  I hate Arsenal to the core, but you (and the old, un-crocked Van Persie) was two men i feared like rotweiller in a dark alley.  Let them fight up with midget Silva and shit-snake Bendtner this season.  They go bawl fuh yuh Addy... They go bawwwwl....Watch and see....

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Football / Its all About The Money
« on: July 15, 2009, 07:32:34 AM »
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/9828/

It's all about the money

Emmanuel Adebayor (pictured) looks likely to join Carlos Tevez at Manchester City this week, becoming another member of that exclusive group of players seeking a fresh challenge at the City of Manchester Stadium. And that challenge is: how can they spend all that money?

It is easy to be cynical about Mark Hughes's summer recruitment drive. But that shouldn't necessarily stop us. Here are two players well established at Champions League clubs joining an outfit whose access to Europe this coming season will be confined to the occasional booze cruise. At Eastlands they will meet up with Gareth Barry, a man who last summer said he needed to leave Aston Villa for Liverpool because playing regularly in the Champions League was his "best way of solidifying" his England place, only to head for a club not even in the Europa League 12 months later.

And the three of them may well be joined soon by John Terry, who is being tempted northwards by a wad reckoned to be in excess of £200,000 a week. Hughes claimed that the decision Terry has to make about moving from Chelsea is about "reigniting his career". It is most definitely "not about money". Which must rank as the most disingenuous statement of this most disingenuous of transfer seasons. "Not about money"? Sure, just as Andrew Strauss's dispatch of the physio to treat a clearly fully fit and functioning James Anderson during the last session of Sunday's extraordinary Ashes test was "not about time-wasting".

It is all about money. But then it always is. When Antonio Valencia joined Manchester United from Wigan it was accepted by most fans that he was doing so, as he said, to further his ambition. He was arriving at the Premier League champions, he would be playing in the Champions League, alongside some of the country's most accomplished professionals. But we can all agree the chances of him taking a pay cut in order to do so are minimal. The fact is, Valencia's salary will have gone up in direct correlation to his ambition.

And yet we fans seem not to see that. Distraught Wigan followers apart, we accept Valencia's need for self-improvement while at the same time mocking Adebayor and Tevez's talk of leading the City revolution as little more than a flimsy cover for their greed. You imagine that Barry's return to Villa Park with City on October 5 will be soundtracked by something a little more pointed than a happy acknowledgment that his career needed the impetus of the move.

But think of it this way. If - for instance - we accept that the only legitimate transfer for a decent player is to go to a Champions League club, because that is the only way we can be sure he is achieving his aim of self-improvement, then the cosy quartet at the top of the Premier League are safe; they will be the only clubs able to hoover up the talent. How else can a club like City expect to break into that cartel except by attracting the best players? And when they have nothing to offer except money in order to do so, what else can they do but to proffer it in huge quantities? As Vito Corleone demonstrated, you can go a long way by making an offer they can't refuse.

As it happens, I think it takes more than that and that Mark Hughes is playing a blinder this summer. Despite what we bitter and impoverished cynics might think, attracting players capable of playing anywhere in the world is not easy when all you have to sell is an increase to their bank balance, if for no other reason than because all of them are capable of increasing their money wherever they head. Hughes is clearly a good salesman as well as a good buyer. With his squad now boasting five serious forwards (though the rumour is one of them - Craig Bellamy - may already be on his way to Sunderland), a couple of good midfielders and a solid keeper, should he add Terry to his defence, he will have some team.

There is every chance, if his recruitment drive continues along this path, that next season will belong to City. The summer is already theirs.

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Football / Re: Who do you think was the best Super Sub ?
« on: July 14, 2009, 10:37:22 PM »
Steve Kerr
      :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:   don't forget John Paxson?

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Football / Re: What if we had a West Indies football side?
« on: July 13, 2009, 04:58:43 PM »
Imagine Jack Warner's hand in the whole Caribbean's pocket?  bad bad, bad bad bad idea.

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Football / Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« on: July 13, 2009, 04:20:32 PM »
Is this the original B&S?

you see any cussing and bitterness?

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: July 13, 2009, 10:57:57 AM »
Aparantly Usmanov wanted a seat on the board too. The Arsenal board does not want him around, that's why they gave Kroenke a seat instead. The lesser of two evils.

Usmanov is very shady. He is an alleged rapist, drug dealer and allegedly responsible for a few witnesses "disppearing". He spent 6 years in jail in the 80's until he was pardoned by Uzbek president Karimov (who has been accused of corruption and human rights violations). The articles written on them by former British ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray, have been removed and banned. I read it a little while ago but lost the link to it.

It's not about selling out to any billionaire with a proposal and a plan.

Those same shareholders have no trouble taking his money once it goes into their personal bank accounts though?  Its only when its offered to buy players to make the club better, they have a problem taking the "rapist" money.  the article completely flew over your head i see :) i understand love for a club, but it is this blind love i can't understand.  hard to have any decent convo with allyuh men yes.  read the article again...

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: July 12, 2009, 12:00:33 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/jul/10/arsenal-theo-walcott

Arsenal's rich owners could have set an example – and provided money to the club – by seriously considering a rights issue

Alisher Usmanov's proposal that Arsenal should hold a rights issue was a shrewd one which probably merited a rather more serious response than it got.  The Arsenal board may believe Alisher Usmanov's rights issue proposal was a stalking horse to gain more control, something the Russian denies.

Arsenal's Russian major shareholder, Alisher Usmanov, does not perhaps fit every fan's ideal image of a man you would most like to be involved with your football club. But his proposal that Arsenal should hold a rights issue, which would mean he and Arsenal's other shareholders would reach into their own pockets to provide money, not debt, directly for the club to spend, was a shrewd one which probably merited a rather more serious response than it got.


Arsenal's chief executive, the bright, genuine Ivan Gazidis, somewhat slipped the news out yesterday, that the club's board had rejected Usmanov's suggestion. It was tucked into a Q & A format with Arsenal's own website, between positive player news: Robin van Persie has signed a new contract, Eduardo and Tomas Rosicky are back, Thomas Vermaelen, Arsenal's one signing so far of the summer, "will make a big impact," and other young players including Theo Walcott, Kieran Gibbs and Jack Wilshere, have "committed their long term futures to the club."

So all good news and lots to look forward to. And in addition the board, with its financial advisors, Rothschild, has examined and rejected the rights issue idea, which Usmanov's advisors said could raise £150m for the club if he and the other shareholders, including Stan Kroenke and Danny Fiszman, had paid their money in substantially.

Gazidis' reasoning was that Arsenal do not need the money. They do not need it to reduce the club's £416m debts, because "the club has a very efficient capital structure with long-term debt on attractive interest rates." Nor should Arsenal raise money from shareholders to spend it on "one or two players in an inflated transfer market." Instead, they should continue as they are, because they make enough money from the high ticket prices Arsenal fans fork out for, and all the other till-ringing revenues at the Emirates Stadium, "to comfortably meet the annual costs of [the club's] debt while at the same time generating surplus funds to invest in the club."

There are, however, one or two obvious counters to that argument. The first is that the swish apartments being built in the sacred shells of Highbury's East and West Stands - the most prestigious flats in north London, the estate agents' brochures would have you know - were intended to deliver the club a windfall of £100m if the property bubble had not popped. The vast majority of the flats are contracted to be sold, but the prospective buyers cannot now get mortgages. Not only is there no prospect of the £100m windfall – which could well have been used to reduce debt or buy a player or two – but also, a £133m bank loan on the development is due for repayment in April and having to be renegotiated right now. To say Arsenal have no use for money from the rights issue is a little close to arguing they would have had no use for the £100m hoped-for profit from the Highbury flats.

The second most obvious difficulty with the rejection of the rights issue is that Arsenal could have set an example had they given it serious consideration. It is important to understand what a rights issue actually is. It is an issue of new shares to the existing shareholders, principally Usmanov, Kroenke and Fiszman, who would pay Arsenal directly for those new shares. All the other, smaller shareholders would also have the right to buy more shares, some new ones could also be created for fans or investors to buy. Care could have been taken not to give Usmanov or Kroenke a much larger stake, and to protect the stakes of the smaller shareholders.

The virtue of this way of raising money for a football club – or any company - is that the shareholders pay money directly in to buy the shares. Pure cash goes to the club's bank account for it to spend as it thinks wisest. It is not debt; the shareholders are not lending the money, as happens at many other football clubs, which are so in hock to their "benefactors."

Arsenal like to think of themselves as a model club, embodying traditional virtues. A rights issue, in which the rich men in charge actually invest real money, no strings attached, for their club to spend, would have set an example to the clubs existing beyond their means on loans from "sugar daddies," or, worse, those like Manchester United and Liverpool, whose north American owners loaded the clubs with debt to pay for the costs of their own takeovers.

The other problem Arsenal have with rejecting the rights issue is that three longstanding shareholders have recently made multi-millions personally out of selling Arsenal shares, but not a penny of it has gone into the club. Usmanov himself paid £75m to David Dein for the former vice-chairman's stake, which Dein bought in the 1980s and early 1990s for a fingernail of that sum. Fiszman made £42.5m personally – tax free because he is resident in Switzerland – by selling an eight per cent slice of Arsenal to Kroenke in April. Richard Carr, holder of shares which were in his family for generations, made more than £40m when he sold 4,839 shares to Kroenke for "£8,500 per share and £10,500 per share," according to Arsenal's official announcement, on May 1.

All these millionaires, including Fiszman and Carr who are directors, custodians of the club, have made many more millions for themselves out of selling their Arsenal shares. That makes the board's argument that the shareholders, including Fiszman, do not need to pay money into the club, a little more difficult.

Kroenke has rapidly become Arsenal's largest shareholder, with 28.3%, even though David Dein was effectively marched out of the building in 2007 for having encouraged Kroenke to buy into the club. Now Kroenke is a director, favoured by the board, a close ally of Fiszman, while Usmanov, who has 25% of the club, is kept away from decision making.

Kroenke, though, has said almost nothing about why he is buying up so much of Arsenal, and what his intentions are. For all the money he has spent buying up shares, none of it has gone into the club itself.

Nor has any of Usmanov's, but by making the proposal, he was offering to put significant money in, and inviting the other shareholders to do the same. They may well have valid reasons for rejecting that offer. The board may believe the rights issue is a stalking horse for Usmanov to gain more control – which he denies – and they may feel they have good reasons for being suspicious of Usmanov, who spent time in prison in Russia before, he has said, being officially pardoned when the regime changed.

It might, though, make more sense if the Arsenal board spell those reasons out. The idea that the club could simply not use, at all, £150m, does not quite wash. And the club's ordinary supporters, not many of whom are tax exile multi-millionaires, are being asked to pay some of the highest ticket prices in football, while the rich men in the boardroom solemnly maintain a firm public stance that they should not have to put any money into the club at all.

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Football / Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« on: July 10, 2009, 11:51:32 AM »
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009/07/08/1371501/english-angle-no-felipe-melo-no-ambition-no-chance-of-arsene

English Angle: No Felipe Melo, No Ambition & No Chance Of Arsene Wenger Making Arsenal Great Again

The Gunners have lost yet another potentially perfect signing, as Goal.com's Sulmaan Ahmad wonders whether Wenger's philosophy is enough anymore.

In an age in which football - like every other sport - is having its course dictated by commercial business, you can only admire a man of pure intentions and principles.

Arsene Wenger has made it abundantly clear he is against big business 'corrupting' football, and is more concerned with maintaining a stable, recession-proof economic policy. Playing it safe. Slow and steady wins the race.

The only problem is, you only tell the Tortoise and the Hare story to children, Aesop has been dead for over 2000 years and the only race slow and steady wins is one to a Europa League place - at best.

Zinedine Zidane didn't become the greatest footballer of modern times by being particularly industrious or hard-working, Axel Foley wasn't the best detective on Beverly Hills Cop because he followed the letter of the law and Bill Gates didn't become the wealthiest man on the planet by building the Microsoft dynasty on a shoestring budget.

Fans just want their team to win, maybe not at all costs, but Arsene Wenger seems to think he can do it at next to no cost whatsoever and he can't.. The uncensored, insensitive reality of the football world is that is that €10 million is nothing. And so is Thomas Vermaelen.

Wenger assured fans at the Emirates - as the season reached its predictable, trophyless end - that experience would be signed in key positions this summer. At 23, Vermaelen has just over 20 caps for the Belgian national side and has come through the worst Ajax team for the last three to four decades.

Arsene has an eye for talent better than most, and there is nothing to say that Vermaelen, who has had ringing endorsements from the likes of Jaap Stam, couldn't develop into a class player. But there's that word again: development.

The fans, above all else, have become restless with the club's status as surrogates for French, African and French-African talents who either don't quite make the top grade, or do so and promptly head to a club where they have something of an assurance that they can line up alongside more players of proven quality and compete for major silverware.

Principles, after all, are relative - with many heavily criticising Wenger's policy of poaching many of 'his' best youth talents - while success is indisputably universal. The lack of balance in Wenger's philosophy and inability to adapt to compete in the age of Abramovich is disconcerting; but he is a man of such intelligence, you would be naive to suggest he doesn't realise the shortcomings of his transfer strategy.

And that is why there is growing belief that the pennysaver signings are nothing more than a fail-safe, to hide behind the guise of financial responsibility and youth development as an excuse for any potential failure, while snatching the likes of Gareth Barry or Xabi Alonso would put the onus squarely on the manager to deliver success.

Believe what you will, but don't believe it's unfair, don't believe there is no money and don't believe that Arsenal's decline from magical to a little mediocre is anyone's fault but the club's.

Having already given up on the likes of Gokhan Inler off the back of his impressive Euro 2008 showing, Wenger was presented with a chance to snap up Felipe Melo from Fiorentina. Fresh from Spanish outfit Almeria, in his debut Serie A season, the Brazilian was quite possibly the best midfielder in the league, a driving force behind the club qualifying for the Champions League for successive years for the first time in its history and now a regular with the Brazil national side, one of their star performers en route to Confederations Cup glory last month.

Arsenal reportedly put up just €14m for the combative Brazilian and were laughed off. Juventus are now on the verge of signing him for a fee in the region of €20-25m. Steep, yes, but such is the price of a player just one year into his contract and in such red-hot form. Bear in mind, this is not even a Juve under Luciano Moggi and coached by Fabio Capello or Marcello Lippi. This is a Juve ravaged by the Calciopoli scandal and putting money they don't even have into players they know they absolutely require.

Take Arsenal's €14m offer, take the €10m spent on Vermaelen, and tell me what you have. You have more than enough money to buy the perfect partner for Cesc Fabregas, which would immeasurably help him improve on his ponderous and unimpressive last season at the Emirates and flourish as the world class talent that he is before inevitably jetting back to Barcelona. It would restore Arsenal's strength in central midfield; the hub of any great football side, as demonstrated by Andres Iniesta and Xavi, Andrea Pirlo and Rino Gattuso or even Paul Scholes and Roy Keane.

Invariably, Arsene will now revert to type. His initial target, the Vermaelen-like Stephane Sessegnon of Paris-Saint Germain, has just renewed with the French capital club, but instead sights are now set on Blaise Matuidi at Saint-Etienne. While it can be condescending to constantly assume it takes a name to make a player, Arsenal's recent track record suggests enough no-names will inevitably lead to a no-team.

For a man who coaches his players with such passion and belief to take risks and go out to win, it is nothing short of a shame for football that he cannot take that same mentality into the boardroom. There is a reason Real Madrid head-hunted the Frenchman this summer. It wasn't the first time and may not even be the last, as he is a man universally recognised as embracing a special brand of football and nurturing of top talent.

But just as Barcelona won't produce a Fabregas, Iniesta, Messi and Pique as part of one generation every time, nor can Arsene realistically expect to snatch them up from other clubs, let alone produce four or five more Jack Wilsheres. Not Kieran Gibbs' or even Jay Simpsons, but Jack Wilsheres. There is a difference - let's stop acting like we don't know it.

The likes of Dennis Bergkamp, Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira - astonishingly rejected by Serie A during its golden age - would not come cheaply in today's equivalent market and, perhaps Vieira excluded, they weren't exactly cheap then, either.

The 59-year-old may yet surprise us all and sign a player of immense experience in Mahamadou Diarra - a French-speaking African, just as he likes them - and having just turned 28, won four Ligue 1 titles with Lyon and two Primera Divisions with Real Madrid, will most likely be available for a fee in the region of €15m as Madrid clear-out as part of the Galacticos revolution. But if it's a straight shootout between he and 22-year-old, €7-10m Matuidi - where would you place your bet?

Signing two good players instead of one great talent will never beget success at the highest level. Rafa Benitez makes a better fist of it by playing a much less attractive brand of football and having spent big on the right players a couple of times - two options Wenger seems unwilling to consider.

Competing with Man City in the long-term is perhaps an unreasonable expectation, but at this rate - having already been callously removed from a big four now referred to as a 'big three' by many - they will be fighting all the way for their fourth place once again this coming season, out of depth to compete for either of the two top honours of the season.

It has never been as simple as spending and winning, but Wenger's overcomplicating of every movement in the transfer market is tarnishing his legacy in north London, even when taking into account how he took them from relative mediocrity to where they have since been and still are now.

The last straw could end up being anything from failure to qualify for the Champions League, finally finishing below Spurs in a league season or even Wenger leaving for the likes of Madrid - but what is at this point a guarantee for the chief proprietor of beautiful football is that, at this rate, it will be very, very ugly.

Sulmaan Ahmad, Goal.com


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juventus signed felipe melo....i go post d article wen it becomes available

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/69/transfer-zone/2009/07/07/1369919/breaking-news-juventus-sign-felipe-melo-report

BREAKING NEWS: Juventus Sign Felipe Melo - Report
The Bianconeri have signed the Brazilian for €20 million plus Marco Marchionni, according to Sky Sport Italia.
Jul 7, 2009 5:20:46 PM

Juventus have signed Felipe Melo from Fiorentina for €20 million plus the full ownership of Marco Marchionni, according to Sky Sport Italia.

The deal has been done and official confirmation will arrive tomorrow. The total value of the deal equals the €25m release clause in the new Fiorentina contract that Felipe Melo only signed last week. The ex-Almeria man has signed a five-year contract in Turin worth €2.6m a year.

Juventus have been in the market for a top-class center midfielder, and their primary target had been Udinese’s Gaetano D’Agostino. However, the failure to agree on a transfer fee had seen Juve look elsewhere for possible alternatives.

Over the last few days there had been widespread speculation over a move for Felipe Melo, who has also been tracked by Premier League side Arsenal.

On Saturday, Sky Sport Italia claimed that Felipe Melo’s agents had reached an accord with Juventus, and that Bianconeri officials were to meet their Fiorentina counterparts on Tuesday in order to arrange a transfer fee and close the deal.

This was followed by an official announcement on the Fiorentina website, which stated that the Viola had only received one firm offer from Arsenal, and that they were negotiating a cash-plus-player exchange with The Gunners, that player being Emmanuel Eboue.

The saga continued to play out, and only today Fiorentina transfer chief Pantaleo Corvino insisted that Juventus had still not made an offer, and that Arsenal were in pole position.

However, Sky Sport Italia, an extremely reliable source, claim that Felipe Melo is now a Juventus player.

The 25-year-old will become the third Brazilian member of the Juventus line-up, along with Diego and Amauri.

Carlo Garganese, Goal.com

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Football / Re: CHELSEA FOREVER!
« on: July 06, 2009, 05:05:58 AM »
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5416676,00.html

Chelsea agree Zhirkov deal

Chelsea have signed Russian international Yuri Zhirkov from CSKA Moscow for a reported £18m fee.

The 25-year-old left-back, who has played 28 times for Russia, came to prominence during Euro 2008 when the national side reached the semi-finals.

Zhirkov, who can also play in midfield, has joined on a four-year deal.

New Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti confirmed the signing at first official news conference saying: "Zhirkov is naturally on the left."

He added: "I think he can do all the work and can play in defence and in between."

The Russian utility player is Chelsea's third signing of the summer, following the arrivals of goalkeeper Ross Turnbull and striker Daniel Sturridge.

During his time with CSKA Moscow, Zhirkov helped the Russian club win the Uefa Cup, scoring the second goal in the 3-1 win over Sporting Lisbon.

Zhirkov flew to London onday and underwent a medical before completing his transfer.

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Football / Re: Bringing girls to de sweat
« on: July 01, 2009, 02:14:13 PM »
Playing

 I used to sweat in the Eddie Hart grounds. Janelle Nedd used to come out. She was easily the most intelligent player in the sweat. She and her friend end up playing in the Ministry sports too. ( every team needed to have at least 1 woman on the field at all times)

Spectatorship

I remember one Sunday afternoon in the Park sweat going nice. 3 v 3 one goal knockout for ten minutes. About midway through the session 3 girls from up the Avenue come down to view the sweat. If yuh see performance in dem short pants. Everyman jack try to play alpha male competing for the right to breed. A sociologist could have written a thesis on the instant transformation change in the mood and tenor of the sweat because of dem girls. Everybody was laughing and joking and taking it light. The talk at the side start to quiet, man start to cuss in the game, real blade passing because man tying to impress.



i used to read your posts, but since yuh add on that barca chelsea sig, i find myself scrolling down quick quick once i realize what it is... yuh bound to hutt up man heart and spoil they mood so everyday? time to change it Jah!  :D

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Football / Re: Confederations Cup Thread
« on: June 24, 2009, 01:58:28 PM »
Why can't we get Spain Uniform in we colors?

why spoil a nice kit?

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u all do realise i was joking right?

yuh is a Barca man, so u cyah get no bligh from me.  So when yuh slip, is early and often i hittin yuh  ;) .... i hoped u were jokin.  All jokes aside though, i tired of hearing men on this site wasting down we own.  it have men who never kick a sweet-drink can and excessively critical of we boys...support means through good and bad times...

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cyah judge a man on one game... and the new wigan boss, prolly know how scotland plays by now ;)

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http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/06/16/Exclusive-Agent-on-Scotland-suitors/gnid-57194/

Exclusive: Burnley 'very interested' in Scotland

Jason Scotland’s agent has told setanta.com that both Burnley and Wigan could emerge as serious contenders for his client.

Scotland has enjoyed a prolific two seasons in both League One and The Championship for Swansea, scoring more than 50 goals since his move south of the border.

The Trinidad and Tobago international has conceded his desire to move up to The Premier League following The Swans’ failure to make the Championship play-offs and former manager Roberto Martinez’s departure to Wigan.

Confirmation of Martinez’s long-awaited appointment as Steve Bruce’s successor is sure to ramp up speculation surrounding those he leaves behind in Wales.

“I’ve heard nothing official but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Roberto came in for Jason because he has had him before,” Scotland’s agent Mike Berry told setanta.com.

“I know that Roberto rates Jason very, very highly and thinks that he can play at the highest level so it’s a case of ‘watch this space’ really

“The other interesting one is Owen Coyle at Burnley who I know is very, very interested in Jason having had him before at St Johnstone. Once again, it’s a case of watch this space.”

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Football / Re: The new galáctico?
« on: June 08, 2009, 09:32:04 PM »
Imagine 56M fuh he alone and de owner of Newcastle put de whole club up for sale for 100M.

more like 62 million pounds to 100 million pounds....

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let arsenal take a "beautiful" loss.... haha... pretty with no bite.... carry on...

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Football / Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
« on: April 28, 2009, 09:34:25 PM »
Chelsea's final hope

Chelsea have built a platform to reach Rome
 

Guus Hiddink has given Chelsea's mission to erase the memories of last season's Champions League final heartbreak fresh drive and direction - but they fell back on the old reliables of durability and defensive discipline to blunt Barcelona in the Nou Camp.

This was not the place, or indeed the opposition, for the fluid attacking game that dismantled Liverpool at Anfield in the quarter-final first leg or the defensive frailty that saw Chelsea concede four in the return game on home soil.

Hiddink's natural attacking instincts were reined in to deliver a game plan designed to contain Barcelona's glorious approach play and the deadly finishing of Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry and Samuel Eto'o.

It produced the required result - although a goalless draw is encouraging as opposed to decisive as a platform for when the sides meet again at Stamford Bridge next Wednesday.

Chelsea have proved they can hold Barcelona. Now they must prove they can beat them.


Barcelona enjoyed huge supremacy in territory and possession, but Chelsea's resilience plus outstanding performances from goalkeeper Petr Cech and captain John Terry, in front of England coach Fabio Capello, left an expectant Catalan gallery frustrated at the final whistle.

Terry set the tone for his team-mates, mixing vital interceptions with uncompromising defence to keep Barcelona at arm's length, and when they did pierce Chelsea's rearguard Cech was in no mood to be beaten.

Cech has faced justified criticism recently, especially after performances that combined uncertainty and eccentricity in equal measure against Bolton Wanderers in the Premier League and Liverpool in that wildly fluctuating Champions League clash.

But in Barcelona, some early trouble with crosses aside, this was the imperious shot-stopping Cech of old, providing a formidable barrier on the occasions when the intricate passing of Pep Guardiola's side navigated a route through Chelsea's massed ranks of defensive defiance.

Cech saved well from Henry in the first half, then after the break denied Dani Alves,
Eto'o and crucially Alexander Hleb in injury time. Chelsea were also accompanied by good fortune as well, with substitute Bojan Krkic somehow heading over with the goal at his mercy.

Chelsea's organisation and bravery meant they deserved the draw that has built a foundation for them to advance to a second successive final, and they could even have got an away goal themselves, with Barca keeper Victor Valdes making a superb double save from Didier Drogba in the first half and Michael Ballack heading over later on.

Hiddink is too wise and too experienced to send Chelsea out at the Nou Camp with orders to open up. He knew that would have been an open invitation to players of the calibre of Messi to kill his and Chelsea's Champions League ambitions stone dead.

Instead Chelsea set up for a war of attrition, although they did not help their cause with too many aimless long balls in the first half that only succeeding in presenting possession back to Barcelona.

But with each player following Hiddink's tactical orders to the letter, and with Jose Bosingwa clearly told to get even tighter to Messi as the game progressed, it is slight advantage to Chelsea ahead of the second leg.

Barcelona, however, still pose a massive threat and Chelsea's after-match words outlined the scale of the task awaiting them if they are to meet Manchester United or Arsenal in Rome in the final.

The La Liga leaders are such a potent threat that the odds may well be against Chelsea keeping them out at Stamford Bridge. And Barcelona know just a single goal in the return leg will leave Chelsea facing a massive task, although they face handicaps of their own with influential defender Carles Puyol suspended and Rafael Marquez out after injuring his knee.

Eto'o delivered a timely warning to Chelsea and made a telling point when he said: "They won't be able to play like they did today, just waiting on everything in their own half. Drawing at home is not a bad thing for the team. Playing away in the return leg just means we have to score that away goal that will settle us."

Chelsea's advantage is a slender one, but in Hiddink they have the coach for all occasions, a man with the tactical flexibility to meet the different demands they will face next week.

They will still require all his expertise and their own vast reserves of character to make that last leap to another final and a tilt at redemption following the defeat on penalties against Manchester United in Moscow.



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Football / Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
« on: April 28, 2009, 05:05:35 PM »
Gus is big coach fellas. Barca met a big side today. Watch Gus tactics at the bridge.
 Drogba and Anelka up front. Chelsea vs Arsenal final

 :applause: :applause: :applause: thanks horse.... after men talk assness about the 4 and 5 barca was gonna put on Chelsea at the Camp Nou, they changing they tune now.... now we getting dismantled IN WE CRIB! haha.... pure tata.... No Puyol, No Rafa... Chelsea played their game plan TO PERFECTION.... Guus is a boss when it comes to tactics. He put out a game plan, players followed to the "T" and they got the result they were looking for...

Do these idiots really think that Chelsea will sit back at home and soak up pressure again, with Marquez and Puyol out...?  Plus, as Chelsea put out their 2nd team against Fulham this weekend, Barca will have Real Madrid running at them and their 4 point lead..... Football is a funny sport and anything could happen, but any fool could see that the advantage is with Chelsea for the second leg..... but go ahead and bump gums again nah... throw out all common sense, because HOPE; is all allyuh have now... they played into Chelsea's hands and were duly frustrated.... Barca only knows one way to play...  Chelsea (as we saw today) could play anyway they want to....  now we'll take them to the Bridge, tweek the tactics and slice they throat open....

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Football / Man City discuss Eto'o with Barca
« on: April 28, 2009, 10:34:55 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8022795.stm

Manchester City and Barcelona officials met on Monday and discussed the possible transfer of Samuel Eto'o to Eastlands, BBC Sport understands.

Although it was billed as a contact-building exercise, the chance of a deal for £40m-rated Cameroon striker Eto'o formed part of their discussions.

The 28-year-old was transfer-listed by Barcelona last season but has found his best form under new boss Pep Guardiola.

Eto'o has given no indication he would be willing to leave the Catalan giants.

In February, he said he wanted to stay at Barcelona beyond the end of his contract in 2010.

"Of course I want to continue, I'm very happy and see no reason to leave," he told TV station Canal Catala.

"I'm going to stay to the end of my contract and if the club want me, I would like to stay longer."

Manchester City certainly have the ambition and financial clout to lure the likes of Eto'o since their takeover last September by the Abu Dhabi United Group, backed by Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

But the club will not figure in next season's Champions League and are by no means guaranteed a place in the new Europa League.

Officials are also likely to tread carefully in any fresh transfer bids for big-name players following the acrimony over their failed move for AC Milan's Kaka.

Manchester City's executive chairman Garry Cook was criticised after accusing Milan of "bottling" a £100m deal for the Brazilian star.

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Football / Re: D.C. United signs defender Avery John
« on: April 24, 2009, 10:38:52 AM »
yea palos...he actually saw more time on than off..like 2 mins more...check yuh contents

Against Paraguay, Avery got subbed in the 31st minute for Kenwyne Jones.  He got red carded against Sweden in the 46th minute.  He didn't play against England



how big men does take something positive and turn it negative does amaze me yes....  big up bredda, you is a moderator!

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Football / Re: Pepe
« on: April 23, 2009, 09:33:08 PM »
ZERO composure dey Pepe... look like he was gettin' horn, finally crack and decide to take it out on somebody.  If he doin dat to da man, imagine if he come in the EPL and play against man like CR and Drogba? He might carry a chopper in he jockstrap? Pure madness....

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Football / Re: D.C. United signs defender Avery John
« on: April 23, 2009, 03:57:03 PM »
Rise up warrior... we NEED yuh as the left-back in that national team defence... right now is only posers we have dey.

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Football / Juventus fans hurl racial slurs at Inter's Balotelli
« on: April 20, 2009, 03:53:44 PM »
Inter president Moratti condemns racial slurs

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9476892/Inter-president-Moratti-condemns-racial-slurs

MILAN (AP) - An Italian league sports judge ordered Juventus on Monday to play a match behind closed doors because of the racist insults hurled by fans at Inter striker Mario Balotelli during a Serie A match.

League Judge Gianpaolo Tosel issued the ruling two days after Saturday's match at Turin's Olympic stadium, the ANSA news agency reported.

Balotelli, who scored Inter's goal in the 1-1 draw with Juventus, was the subject of repeated racial slurs and chants during the match.

Inter Milan president Massimo Moratti said he would have pulled the Italian league leaders off the field had he been at the stadium.

"What I find terrible is that these chants were sung by at least four-fifths of the stadium," Moratti was quoted as saying Monday in Corriere della Sera.

"Had I been at the stadium, at a certain point I would have left my seat in the stands, I would have gone down on the field and pulled out the team," he said. "There must be a limit.

Balotelli was born in Palermo, the son of Ghanian immigrants. At 18, he is considered one of the game's most promising talents.

Moratti lamented that the media had not given enough prominence to the racial incident, saying that there is a risk of "getting used to racism."

Juventus has apologized, condemning the racial chants also on "on behalf of the overwhelming majority of our fans."

Juventus president Giovanni Cobolli Gigli said that "there can be no alibi or justification."

The team risks a fine or other sanctions from the Italian football authorities.

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