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Football / Tnt vs Faroe islands and San marino

« on: September 02, 2006, 08:19:16 AM »

Well Euro qualifying weekend start, 10 minutes ent gone yet and Faroe islands done collect 2 from Scotland.

How all you feel we go do against the whipping boys of European football? Faroe Islands, San MArino, Liechstenstein, Andorra...

I'm tempted to say we go beat them up bad, but the only match we had comparable to that was 2 against Azerbaijan and we only win 1-0 and 2-0.

IT know it all depends on who play, how much time they together and on the day anything can happen, but what is a realistic scoreline in your opinion if we play them in a world cup qualifier (full strength team)?

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Football / Only Human Beings

« on: September 01, 2006, 07:23:43 PM »

I've been reading some of the posts that have been put up since the world cup in response to the career choices of some of our footballers with interest and i would like to say the following.

As supporters, I think we get carried away sometimes. I'm not saying I agree with everything everyone of our players do, but consider this:

Anyman who has to pick up and leave his friends, family and everything he knows for a job opportunity that may or may not come out well is faced with a hard choice. So is one faced with having to choose between his career and his religious beliefs. So is one who considers himself as employed beneath his value, and underpaid,

Ideally we all want to be the best we can be, but are we all willing to make the sacrifices necessary to do so? Its easy for us to say, he should go there and he should do that, but we sit safely in our armchairs while we say it...
Also, If a doctor chooses to bring his 'expertise' to Trinidad instead of some big clinic in England, we would congratulate him. So why if a man choose to stay in the PFL we have to get on? Why are we so?

There are many factors that go into a decision to ply one's trade somewhere but at the end of the day, there are a lot of emotional factors as well. We should remember that these guys are human beings before being footballers. As such, their decisions are also human ones. They may not always be the best objectively speaking, but they are theirs.

Just my $0.02

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Football / Lawrence adds to Swansea's woes

« on: August 23, 2006, 11:01:34 AM »

Lawrence adds to Swansea's woes.
BBC Sports NEWS.
 
Swansea's miserable start to the season continued when new signing Dennis Lawrence was injured in the 3-2 Liberty Stadium Carling Cup loss to Wycombe. "He came off after pulling his groin early on," said Swansea manager Kenny Jackett, who expects Lawrence to be out for three-to-four weeks. Lawrence, 32, joined for £75,000 from Wrexham after a serious injury to Swans captain and centre-back Garry Monk.
But Jackett said he had no regrets on fielding a strong side against Wycombe. "There have been a lot of changes to the team and it needs time to bed in," he said.
"We're short of confidence and belief as a unit. That's why I didn't really lay into them at the end - we need to build morale, not knock it.
"There's no doubting that the performance left a lot to be desired. We couldn't hold the ball or create chances, it was very average.
"The players have taken a few knocks from the match, but we'll gather and go again at Leyton Orient on Saturday. "This squad has the ability, but it needs some self belief."

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Football / Who will break their scoreless streak first

« on: August 17, 2006, 05:33:26 AM »

Poland loss 2-0 to denmark in Copenhagen yesterday.

Interestingly enough it means that a Beenhaker coached team has not scored in its last 5 international matches (0-3 Czech Republic, 0-0 Sweden, 0-2 England, 0-2 Paraguay, 0-2 Denmark)

Of course the first four of those results are ours, but under whim we didn't break the streak either.

Poland has a home match against finland on the 2nd of september, and another against serbia on the 6th.
We have a home match against Mexico on the 2nd and a second against an as unknown opponent on the 6th.

Who do you think will break their scoreless streak first? TNT or Beenie?

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Football / Unofficial thread for the CFU Youth Cup

« on: August 14, 2006, 11:37:46 AM »

Standings
Group A
CAN 9 +17
SLV 6 +16
BER 3 -19
P11 0 -14

Group B
PAN 9 +26
PRC 6 -1
STL 3 -3
ANG 0 -20

GroupC
BAR 7 +5
SUR 7 +3
NAN 3 -2
SVG 0 -6

Group D
HAI 6 +15
STM 0 -10
CAY 0 - 5

Group E
TNT 9 +16
GUY 6 +2
GRE 1 -7
ARU 1 -10

Group F
JAM 9 +13
CUB 6 +19
BAH 3 -13
DCA 0 -19

Group G
MEX 9 +22
SKN 6 0
USV 3 -13
ANT 0 -8

PHASE 2
Group A
HAI 9 +12
TNT 4 +3
SUR 3 -7
BAR 1 -8


MEX 9 +3
JAM 4 +2
PAN 2 -1
CAN 1 -4


Goalscorers (incomplete)
Stephan Knox (TNT) 10
Victor Maron (MEX) 8
Jorge Carbera (CUB) 7
Amande Pollo (PAN) 6
Travis Somersall (SKN) 5
Javier de la Rosa (PAN) 5
Ivanildo Chobin (SUR) 5
Carlos Pena (MEX) 5
Johnstone Marcus (CAN) 4
Edgar Pacheco (MEX) 4
John Doyle (JAM) 4
Saint Louis Wiselet (HAI) 4
Normil Valdo (HAI) 4
Brett Carrington (BAR) 3
Ricardo Orellana (SLV) 3
Roberto Austin (PAN) 3
Edwardo Jimenez (PRC) 3
Jose Valladores (CUB) 3
Daniel Cyrus (TNT) 3
Mirco Colina (NAN) 3
Alberto Quezada (PAN) 3
Romario Campbell (JAM) 3
Dever Orgill (JAM) 3
Kenniel Hyde (JAM) 3
Alcine Samuel (HAI) 3
Jules Sandy (HAI) 3
Raul NAVA (MEX) 3
Michael Bethel (BAH) 2
Duran Mitchell (BAH) 2
Julien Wade (DCA) 2
Myron Samuel (SVG) 2
Mohamed Sylla (CAN) 2
Jarek Lightman  (CAN) 2
Chad de Freitas (TNT) 2
Andrew Murray (GUY) 2
Reinaldo Seale (BAR) 2
Esteban Jaen (PAN) 2
Andre Rodriguez (MEX) 2
CJ Smith (BAH) 2
Nickael ZAMIL (STM) 2
Tex Whitelocke (CAY) 2
Gersinio Constansia (NAN) 2
Jonathan Rodriguez (PAN) 2
Edward Moss (BAR) 2
Leston Paul (TNT) 2
Daniel Joseph (TNT) 2
St. Vicot Ulterguens (HAI) 2
Joseph Peterson (HAI) 2
Teghan Pools 2 (SUR)
Giovanni Drenthe 2 (SUR)
Ryan O Neil (TNT) 2
Phillipe Davies (CAN) 2

Calendar
Group E
14.8.2006 Grenada 0 - Guyana 2 (Manasseh PRIMO 38th; Kevin BEATON 52nd Malabar, TRI
14.8.2006 Trinidad & Tobago 8 (Stephen KNOX 22nd, 25th, 66th pen; Chad DE FREITAS 32nd; Ryan O’NEIL 73rd; Daniel CYRUS 74th, 80th, Daniel JOSEPH 75th) - Aruba 1 (Raymbert BIKKER 16th)
Malabar, TRI

Group F
15.8.2006 Bahamas 4 (Michael Bethel 1st, 3rd, Duran Mitchell 7th, 51st) - Dominica 3 (Dwayne Walker 16th, Julien Wade 63rd, 71st). Couva (ABS)

Group D
15.8.2006 Cayman Islands 0 - Haiti 5 (Jules SANDY 10th; Normil VALDO 41st; Joseph PETERSON 46th; Saint Louis WISELET 51st, 65th) Point-à-Pierre

Group F
15.8.2006 Jamaica 2 (Kener Orgin 41st, Kenniel Hyte 69th) - Cuba 1 (Jose Valladrez 51st). Couva (ABS)

Group C
15.8.2006 Netherlands Antilles 1 (Mirco Colina 79th) - Barbados 4 (Brett Carrington 27th 41st 61st, Steven Griffith 66th) Couva

Group G
15.8.2006 US Virgin Islands 0 - St. Kitts/Nevis 2 (Travis SOMERSALL 61st, 83rd) Malabar

Group C
15.8.2006 Suriname 4 (Miguel CRONIE 15th; Ivanildo CHOBIN 41st, 65th; Giovanni DRENTHE 84th) – - St Vincent and the Grenadines 2  (Myron Samuel 50th, 88th) Couva, TRI

Group B
15.8.2006 Anguilla 0 - Puerto Rico 5 (Alexander Vietz 24th, Edwardo Jiminez 51st, 63rd, Nicholas Ramirez 70th, Jose Zuniga 74th) Marabella

Group G
15.8.2006 Mexico 4 (Andres Rodriguez 35th, Lose Luis Berduzco 77th, Victor Manon 83rd, Christian Moran 88th) - Antigua/Barbuda 0. Malabar.

Group B
15.8.2006 Panama 6 (Javier De La Rosa 8th pen, 27th 58th, Carlos Rodriguez 14th, Armando Polo 16th, 38th) - St Lucia 0. Manny Ramjohn Stadium, Marabella.

Group A
15.8.2006 Canada 10 (Bonsu Randy 4th, Davies Phillipe 6th Johnstone Marcus 16th, 29th, 74th, 79th Sylla Mohamed 22nd, 32nd, Lightman Jarek 65th, 90th)  - Bermuda 0 Bacolet

Group A
16.8.2006 El Salvador 7 - President's XI 0 Bacolet, TRI
Ricardo ORELLANA 14’, 39’, 48’; William MALDONADO 20’; Armando QUINTANILLA 56’; Henry ESCOBAR 72’; Diego CHAVARRÍA 83’

Group E
16.8.2006 Aruba 0 - Guyana 3 (Andrew Murray 62nd, 83rd, Sherlone Edwards 87th) 15:00 Marabella, TRI
16.8.2006 Trinidad & Tobago 5 T&T 5 (Stephen Knox 7th, 81st, 84th, Leston Paul 43rd, Chad De Freitas 90th) v Grenada 0. Marabella, TRI

Group G
17.8.2006 Antigua/Barbuda 0- St. Kitts/Nevis 3 (Travis Somesall 34th, 40th, 70th) Malabar, TRI
17.8.2006 Mexico 13 (Victor Maron 3rd, 49th, 75th, 86th, Edgar Pacheco 58th, 60th, 87th, Alejandro Barrera 69th, Raul Nava 30th, Carlos Pena 6th, 35th, Andre Rodriguez 17th, Christian Perez 40th) - US Virgin Islands 0 Malabar, TRI

Group C
17.8.2006 Surinam 3 (Ivanildo Chobin 6th, 42nd, Giovanni Pique 45th) - Netherlands Antilles 2 (Leroy Brooks 3rd, Gersino Constancia 51st) Couva, TRI

Group A
17.8.2006 Bermuda 1 (Sergio WOOLRIDGE 60th) - President's XI 0 Bacolet, TRI

Group B
17.8.2006 Panama 12 (Roberto Austin 2nd, 4th, 89th, Amande Pollo 3rd, 37th, 41st pen, Esteban Jaen 60th, 90th, Jonathan Rodriguez 27th, Alberto Quezeda 35th, Ruben Juejera 51st, Altudo Tejeda 86th)- Anguilla 0 Marabella, TRI

Group F
17.8.2006 Cuba 10 (Jose Valladores 27th,70th, Junior Ramirez 68th, Jorge Carbera 20th, 50th, 55th, 65th, 75th, 86th, 89th) - Dominica 0 Couva, TRI

Group C
17.8.2006 St. Vincent/Grenadines 1 (Gildon Edwards 41st). - Barbados 3 (Edward Moss 20th, Reinaldo Seale 83rd, 86th) Couva, TRI

Group D
17.8.2006 Haiti 10 - Saint-Martin 0 Point-Pierre, TRI

Group B
17.8.2006 St. Lucia 0 - Puerto Rico 2 (John Sacco 21st, Edwardo Jiminez 39th) Marabella, TRI

Group F
17.8.2006 Jamaica 6 (Kenniel HYDE 29th; Christopher BANNER 33rd; John Ross DOYLEY 40th, 45th; Dever ORGILL 54th; Marvin BOOTHE 83rd) - Bahamas 2 (C.J. SMITH 9’, 22’)
Couva, TRI

Group A
17.8.2006 Canada 2 - El Salvador 1 Bacolet, TRI
 
Group E
18.8.2006 Aruba 1 (Francois Croes 64th)- Grenada 1 (Allan Munro 43rd) 15:00 Malabar, TRI
18.8.2006 Trinidad & Tobago 3 (Stephen Knox 10th, Daniel Cyrus 51st, Ryan O Neil 87th)- Guyana 0 17:00 Malabar, TRI

Group B
19.8.2006 St. Lucia 3 (Travis THOMAS 42nd; Evans WILLIE 45th; Concious WILLIE 46th) - Anguilla 1 (Jahmar HAMILTON 25th)Marabella, TRI
19.8.2006 Panama 8 (Alberto QUEZADA 26th, 47th; Javier DE LA ROSA 28th; Jonathan RODRIGUEZ 68th; Armando POLO 69th, 84th; Fernando MENA 89th) - Puerto Rico 0 Marabella, TRI

Group F
19.8.2006 Jamaica 8 (Andre Beckford 3rd, Romario Campbell 17th, 51st, 67th John Ross Doyle 54th, Akeem Brown 63rd) - Dominica 0 Couva, TRI
19.8.2006 Cuba 10 - Bahamas 0 Couva, TRI

Group C
19.8.2006 Surinam 1 - Barbados 1 Couva, TRI
19.8.2006 St. Vincent/Grenadines 1 (Kyle DELL 37th) - Netherlands Antilles 3 (Mirco COLINA 25th, 73rd; Gersinio CONSTANSIA 51st) Couva, TRI

Group G
19.8.2006 Antigua/Barbuda 1 (Ewing MARTIN 11th) –  US Virgin Islands 2 (Alexander NISSMAN 60th; Semaj HODGE 81st) Malabar, TRI

Group A
19.8.2006 Bermuda 1 - El Salvador 11 Bacolet, TRI

Group G
19.8.2006 Mexico 5 (Victor MAÑON 16th, 87th, 90th; Carlos Alberto PEÑA 40th; Edgar PACHECO 50th)- St. Kitts/Nevis 0 Malabar, TRI

Group D
19.8.2006 Saint-Martin 2 (Nickael ZAMIL 31st, 64th) - Cayman Islands (Mark EVANS 5th; Tex WHITELOCKE 16th, 75th; Paul BROWN 51st; Kareem JAMES 61st) Point-Pierre, TRI

Group A
19.8.2006 Canada 6 - President's XI 0 Bacolet, TRI

The new schedule:


21.8.2006 Haiti 7 (Alcine SAMUEL 4’; St. Victor ULTERGUENS 24’; Joseph PETERSON 28’; Normil VALDO 44’; Jules SANDY 45’; Saint Louis WISELET 48’, 63’) vs Surinam 1 (Teghan POOLS 34’) –  Marabella

21.8.2006 Trinidad & Tobago 1 (Leston PAUL 85’) vs Barbados 1 (Edward MOSS 21’) - Marabella

21.8.2006 Panama 1 vs Mexico 2 - Bacolet

21.8.2006 Canada 0 vs Jamaica 3 (Dever ORGILL 26’; John ROSS-DOYLEY 86’; Kenniel HYDE 90’+) - Bacolet
 

23.8.2006 Barbados 0 vs Haiti 5  (Alcine SAMUEL 2’, 76’; St. Victor ULTERGUENS 34’; Normil VALDO 64’, 90’) - Couva

23.8.2006 Surinam 0 vs Trinidad & Tobago 4 (Stephen KNOX 1’, 80’ pen; Daniel JOSEPH 64’; Kevin MOLINO 72’) - Couva

23.8.2006 Jamaica 1 (Dever ORGILL 86’) – vs Panama 1 (Javier DE LA ROSA 26’) - Bacolet

23.8.2006 Mexico 2 (Carlos Alberto PEÑA 31’; Raul NAVA 90’+) – vs Canada 1 (Adam STRAITH 67’)- Bacolet

25.8.2006 Surinam 3 (Teghan Pools 25th, Ivanildo Chobin 60th Giovanni Drenthe 80th) vs Barbados 0 - Malabar

25.8.2006Trinidad & Tobago vs Haiti (Jules Sandy 12th) - Malabar

25.8.2006 Canada 2 (Colin Paranteau-Michon 7th, Philippe Davies 49th) – vs Panama 2 (Anibal Godoy 11th, Juan De Garcia 36th) - Bacolet

25.8.2006 Mexico 2 vs Jamaica 1 - Bacolet

27.8.2006 TNT 2 (Stephen Knox 44th pen, Ryan o neill 53rd) vs Jamaica 0 - 3rd and 4th placed winners

27.8.2006 Haiti 0 vs Mexico 3 (Carlos Alberto PEÑA 71’; Saul SANDOVAL 80’; Raul NAVA 89’) - CYC Champion and Runner Up

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Football / footballing names on the same team

« on: August 09, 2006, 03:23:22 PM »

The other day i was studying this.

One time we had marvin andrews and yndon andrews playing on the same team...
now we have cyd gray and ian gray

In between we have avery john and stern john, daurance williams and jan michael williams, anton pierre and nigel pierre.

With a bit of luck we could have had scott sealy and steve sealy.

we had steve david now we have stephen david, we had philbert jones and now we have kenwyne jones and we not even talking about the related ones like the spanns...

Anybody could think of any other famous (non related) names that keep coming back in football, in trinidad or elsewhere? We have the two coles on the england team plus dwght yorke old strike partner, robby and roy keane on the irish team ...

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Football / Petition to avoid the September 6th clash between the Warriors and the Princesse

« on: July 26, 2006, 10:08:22 PM »

I may be jumping the gun a bit, but I thought it might make sense to get this out as early a spossible. Any modifications/suggestions are welcome. Can the Warrior Nation endorse it? I apologise if not and promise to modify it to suit..

To whom it may concern

All conscientious fans of football in this country would join me in saying that Trinidad and Tobago’s qualification for the World Cup should also signal the start of a new era in how the sport is administered in this country.

However, recent news seems to indicate that this new hope seems to be nothing more than an illusion. Recently we were informed that Trinidad and Tobago would play host the Caribbean Women’s Final Round Qualification for the Womens Gold Cup from the 6th to the 10 of September. Almost simultaneously we were relayed the happy news of the officialisation of a high calibre friendly involving the men’s national team on September 6th against our eternal rivals, the Reggae Boyz of Jamaica.

What a feast of football on that day – Jamaica’s women take on their Bermudan counterparts at 5 pm followed by the Soca Princesses against the Surinam women’s team at 7 pm and to crown it off The Soca Warriors vs the Reggae Boyz.

Good news you say? Of course, but for one small thing. The women’s matches are being played in the Manny Ramjohn stadium while the ‘big match’ is going to be played in Port of Spain.

Now the time of the Soca Warrior’s match has not yet been clarified, but logic would dictate that’s such a high profile match as Trinidad and Tobago-Jamaica will take place after working hours.

How do I as a die hard supporter of ALL Trini football organise myself to see both matches? The simple answer is I don’t. I choose, and unless I live (or work) in south and the hassle of getting to the National Stadium is just too much, I’m hardly likely to choose T&T-Surinam over T&T-Jamaica.

The supporters club of all Trinbago football, the Warrior Nation, would like to call on all fans to appeal for the Trinidad and Tobago women’s match to be played as part of a double header with the Soca Warrior’s match so as to allow the National Women’s team to display their worth in front of crowds they are unlikely to encounter before actually qualifying for the Gold Cup. If this is not possible, at least the powers that be can have the date of one of the matches changed so as not to rob the women’s team of the chance of being supported by a decent sized crowd.

Yours in Trinbago Football

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Football / Mundial Kombat 06

« on: July 10, 2006, 11:48:11 AM »

That Zidane graphic real have me thinking about a boss video game.

They could call it Mundial Kombat 06

Each of the following characters could have they own finishing moves.

Zidane : Battering Ram
Rowdy Rooney: Nut Cracker
De Rossi: Scud Missile Elbow
Sorin?: Bitch Slap
Bouhlarouz: Piranha
Rui Costa?: Head seeking Flying Jump Kick

And the winner get to meet Eric Cantona and Roy Keane in the final Battle  

All we need now is the images from them games and somebody who know how to handle heself with graphics. Eman, where you been hiding?

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Football / Maha Sabha invites Indian footballer to inspire youths

« on: July 06, 2006, 03:20:49 PM »

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=160978848

Maha Sabha invites Indian footballer to inspire youths

Ariti Jankie South Bureau


Thursday, July 6th 2006
 
 

The Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha has invited French League footballer Vikash Dhorasoo to Trinidad, for a visit aimed at inspiring Hindu youths to play football.

SDMS secretary general Sat Maharaj made the announcement on Tuesday, noting that football and the recent performance of the Soca Warriors at the 2006 World Cup in Germany had impacted on the most conservative groups.

He said the Maha Sabha, which focuses mainly on religion, culture and education, had decided to introduce football in all its schools, temples and other institutions as a result of the Soca Warriors' World Cup impact.

Maharaj said FIFA vice president Jack Warner had already contacted Dhorasoo on the Maha Sabha's invitation.

Dhorasoo, a midfielder with Paris St Germain, was born in Mauritius of Indian parentage. The family had earlier migrated from Andra Pradesh, India.

He grew up in La Havre, Normandy, after leaving Mauritius and played for Le Havre from 1993-1998, Lyon 1998 -2001 and 2004, Bordeaux (2001-2002) and Italian Serie A side AC Milan in 2004-2005 season. He twice won the French League title with Olympique Lyonnais in 2002 and 2004.

He is the first player of Indian descent to ever participate in the FIFA World Cup finals.

Maharaj said they had taken the decision to invite the player because they believe Hindu parents, especially mothers, dissuade their sons from taking part in contact sports like football.

"Young Indian boys are more inclined to play cricket, table tennis, badminton and even lawn tennis where the facilities are available to display individual skills," he said, noting that a broken bone or a twisted ankle during a football match could traumatise an entire family. The visit would be sponsored by the Maha Sabha.

As soon as men say Indian/Hindu and football in the same sentence licks does pelt on this board like jab jab fighting carnival monday... I thought it might be interesting to see the responses to this...

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Football / The end of the myth of Brasilia?

« on: July 02, 2006, 01:09:55 PM »

I'm really happy that this is the year the Warriors made it to a World Cup, because it just dawn on me how suddenly I don't have any other side to support...

Yuh see. I is a Brazil fan. I inherit that from mih daddy (RIP) since I know football...and to see dem fellas go out there in that gold uniform and dance up and down that pitch was always nice. I love that anthem. And they never use to be cusisng and getting on to the referee and diving and all that crap the way dem dam Argentines use to.

And oh god...talk about a mix...white man and brown man and red man and black man, bald head and rasta all playing on the same team and having opponents eating grass same way. They could show all the arrogant Europeans who feel they is the centre of football what the third world have to offer

In 1994, nobody was studying Brazil too much. Even Colombia was beating them...They had one asshole of a striker...but oh gosh the man knew how to put a ball in the net though. They had a next one, he couldn't take tackle at all at all, like if he was a baby. Then they had one hard tackling man who didn't use to let nobody get past him...two wingbacks going up and down the field all the time. People say they wasn't real brazilians, too defensive. I just remember Branco goal and the three ah them rocking the baby together...And they had a wonderful goalkeeper...had no way they was going to lose out on penalty kicks. Memories..

Nobody ent really sure what happen the year after but then they light up south american, take copa 97. A buck tooth little boy on the team in 94 was lighting up the whole planet all then. They had a skeletal looking man that perfect the art of chest trapping bicycling kick, and a bald head one that coulda make ball look like boomerang. The asshole striker get left off for a next one. They look kinda average but second rond reach and then they start to show off on ppl. Netherlands come rund again and take them to penalties but had no way they was beating taffarel. Then buck teeth get sick and next thing they loss the final to france bad bad bad...

Ah was sad, but next Copa they get rid of all the frustration in South America. buss 7 goals on man and thing. Taffarel left, but a lanky dark fella with a stupid grin, a stupid haircut but a real decent way of saving penaties show up. Another buck teeth little boy appear and oh god he could dribble...

But then they start to ketch some horrors later. Buck teeth number 1 break he leg like about 15 times. Buck teeth number 2 get loss over in some French club. Man retire. Time to qualify and Brazil ent know who to pick, neither players nor coaches. They hire bout 10 coach and then use about 100 players...they even call back the old asshole striker...they just scrape in by the skin of they teeth

Come 2002, nobody ent studying Brazil, but Brazil ent have them to study. Buck tooth number one recuperate in a shaolin temple and keep the haircut when he leg heal. Buck teeth number 2 leave the french club for Barca. They so hot they could leave dida on the bench, same as kaka a olympic team hot man that does cut through midfield like a hot knife, even Mr I ould dribble faster than i could think denilson riding pine. Big Phil calling the shots and Brazil bussing goal after goal. Doh mind The Skeletal one pull a little Argentina, dis is d Brazil! Buck tooth number 1 just keep defying the laws of medecine, buck teeth number 2 the laws of physics. The old fellas in de back pulling real weight. Seaman so amazed he stand up and say A-A! Ballack ent even bother to show up for the final...he done know d result.

Buck teeth number 1 suddenly become galactic. Dem men ent making no joke. Copa come round in 2004. They ent even bother to send him and they still beat Argentina with that b team in the finals, penalty kicks notwithstanding. 2005 Confed Cup, same thing, B team again mash them up. Brazilians popping up all over de place, in Qatar, Tunisia and Japan : In france like they have a school in Lyon. Juni P come up, man could kick better than Carlos; some decent central defenders as well but things so tight all dem men riding pine. Kaka now big star in Italy. Dat B team striker is a big fella if he could buss you mouth just by looking at yuh...man like a bull when he have that ball. Den they get a next little birdy looking one, man fast fast fast. The problem is no longer who to pick, is who to leave out..

FIFA tell dem this tournament is yours to lose, you are the guardians of the joga bonita. But in between time buck teeth number 1 have personal probs and putting on a setta weight. Dida choose this moment to forget how to hold on to a ball. Cafu and Carlos suddenly remember they age. Adriano spending more time sulking than shooting. Men doh know where skeleton man gone All this time some hungry young fellas riding pine still...men wondering when the brazil team will finally reach even though tournament start 2 weeks now. Ah setta ole french man send dem right back home...before they actually start playing.
No joga bonita foryuh...

Now the thing is back in 1966, nobody was expecting Pele to get injured and Brazil to go home in the first round, but then in 1970, look what happen...the best team ever they say, with the best player ever.

Last time around we see them in 2 straight finals and then the get put out early, but they still had a bunch of talented players. But after 1970, look what happen. it take 24 years for the myth to be revived.
Is 12 years now we get use to seeing Brazil in the Finals. Now they get put out early and still have a bunch of talented players. IS this another 1966? or a 1974?

Is it the end of the great Brazilian myth?

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Football / Pan petition?

« on: May 28, 2006, 01:04:06 PM »

I'm referring to this post
http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=14788.0

Someone suggested launching a petition to FIFA to get at least the 'official band' that accompanies the team allowed into the stadium. Does anyone even know if there has been any statement in relation to that?

Anyway two questions. Would you guys support such a petition?
Do you think at this late stage it makes any sense?

RSVP Quickly please

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Football / Trinidad on France prime time news!!! (We need a press Committee)

« on: May 23, 2006, 02:50:59 PM »

http://jt.france2.fr/20h

Boy, we really reach. When the bombings went on I ent hear a peep about it in the French tv media. Look what a world cup could do eh! This is not even part of a profile on the 32 teams, they just decide to talk about us right after a story on the french team training.

You need to scroll on the vertical bar on the right and click on the third to last subject "Football: Trinidad en pleine confiance"

Here's the translation

(pictures of children adoring Yorke and co)
Nothing is too big for the Soca Warriors, les guerriers du football, the Trinidad National team. Before their departure for Germany, they were feted in a way that only the Caribbean knows how. And the players stood open mouthed in front so much love.

(cut to one day WI against India/Zimbabwe)
The national sport of Trinidad used to be cricket however; the World Cup of this discipline is supposed to take place on the island next year, but that was before. Football has now left cricket KO!

(cut to female fan)
Female Fan: I'm a cricket fan, really. But with this qualification for the World Cup, football has overtaken cricket.

(cut to male fan)
Male Fan: They're going to bring the Cup home and beat England while doing it.

(cut to team training)
Beat England, the old colonial power in the first round, is the dream of the Warriors who train conscientiously for this goal. The majority of them play in the british championships and don't plan on being also rans.

(cut to Sancho)
Sancho: Anything is possible. God is with us and the ball is round for everyone. In football nothing is impossible.

(cut to clip of beach football)
In the meanwhile, they play in Trinidad, they play everywhere, on the beaches in the parks the poor areas, the rich areas,

(cut to clip of ghetto football)
the young, the old, as if this energy could benefit the Warriors over there in far off Germany.

(cu to clip of youth soccer team)
And when you ask them who will win the Cup, the response is TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO!!!!
What if the truth came out from the mouths of babes? After all, the Warriors have already beaten bigger fish than them, Mexico in particular.

I hereby make an offical request to the moderators that all threads concerning write ups and clips of the Soca Warriors abroad should be put unto a child board, or at least archived in one place for posterity.

E man and store Bay, the tech men, we need to find out how to save some of these before the links expire. I can try to get the tape from France 2 you guys in Britain need to do the same for the BBC etc

Come on people, we need a press committee!!!!!!!!!!!

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2006 World Cup - Germany / Transfer of WC tickets obtained through the TTFF!!!

« on: May 19, 2006, 06:14:26 PM »

I ordered two tickets through the Warrior Nation from the TTFF stock. Anybody know what the procedure is to transfer such a ticket to another name and how long it takes? You can't use FIFA's transfer procedure on the net because you were supposed to have given an email address and password which you would not have given for a TTFF request. BTW, this is from the Warrior Nation supply we're talking about

I already sent the TTFF an email but I don't even WANT to imagine how long a response will take right around now. 

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Football / Yorke revived by fairy tale ride (FIFAWORLDCUP.COM)

« on: May 16, 2006, 08:55:03 AM »

Yorke revived by fairy-tale ride.
By: FIFAworldcup.com.

What a difference a year makes. Little over 12 months ago, a disillusioned Dwight Yorke seemed to be drifting towards retirement after swapping the English Premier League for the Australian A-League, following an unhappy spell at Birmingham City.
Fast forward to the present and Yorke, at 34, is preparing for arguably the greatest adventure of a career which once brought European glory with Manchester United. Having helped Sydney FC become Australian champions, Yorke will shortly spearhead the Trinidad and Tobago attack at the FIFA World Cup™ in Germany. Here the Soca Warriors captain tells FIFAworldcup.com how he has fallen back in love with the game.

FIFAworldcup.com: How would you describe the events of the last year for you?
Dwight Yorke: It's a strange one. Playing in England for 17 years, the way it ended was not the way I wanted. Things did not end particularly great at Birmingham and there was an opportunity for me to leave for something exciting in Australia. I took that opportunity and I am sure a lot of people would have thought that would be the last of me because football is not so well known in Australia. Then at the same time I came out of retirement for my country. I'd been absent for about four years and thought I'd give it one more chance to try and qualify for the World Cup. The last eight months have been unbelievable. Going to Sydney, winning the grand final, and of course qualifying for the World Cup, being the captain and leader of the team.

Would you say you had fallen out of love with football?
I had a phase between the end of my time at Blackburn and going to Birmingham where football was not my first priority. My sister died unexpectedly, I have a little boy who is not as well as I'd like him to be and you tend to look at things differently. But going to Sydney and getting out of the country and not having the media hype around gave me a new start and my appetite came back.

Looking at the Trinidad and Tobago team, how important has Leo Beenhakker been to your success?
The appointment of Leo Beenhakker was a masterstroke by Jack Warner, the president of our confederation (CONCACAF) and the vice-president of FIFA. Beenhakker came in and gave the guys belief and everyone has responded to that. We have made huge strides and that's down to the manager and the staff. I don't want to reveal too much but he has a way of getting through to the players. He knows we have a talented bunch of players and a very athletic team and it's just having that belief.
Bringing back Russell Latapy was important too. People say he is 37 but he is highly respected in our part of the world. He is a very talented and influential player, and arguably one of the best I have played with. We both retired at the same time, but I picked up the phone as captain and said to him, 'I think you need to come back and give us one more go'.

What does Latapy give the side?
He is a special talent that can unlock any defence. He has amazing ability to feed passes and can go past people whenever he wants. He is 37 and may not have the legs to run fast but you give the ball to his feet and he can make things happen for you.

How do you see your own role in the team?
I am the leader and the one everyone looks up to. I've played at the very top level and won a lot of things. People respect that. I never saw myself as a leader but in this team everyone sees me as a leader and that's why the captaincy was handed to me, because of my experience. Of course I know what it takes to win games and obviously I can score goals. So if there is anyone the team needs to turn to for experience and guidance they don't need to look any further. From a personal point of view, being the captain I will be arguably the proudest man – at 34 this is pretty much the icing on the cake.

Has the way you play the game changed as you have got older?
I am not as fast as I used to be but I am physically in good shape and I can get around the pitch equally well. With my experience I don't need to run all over the place – I try to make it up with anticipation and try to think quicker than other people.

How excited are you about playing in a FIFA World Cup? Is it something you ever thought would happen?
I probably did when I was playing for Man Utd and we were winning trophy after trophy. I thought I could take that and instil it in the team. I felt we had a very good chance before 2002 but we didn't do too well. Despite all the things I've won, as a kid growing up you dream that one day you'll represent your country in a World Cup but I must say I felt that opportunity had gone. Sixteen years ago I was very close when we were edged out by the United States. I was only a kid and it was very hard to accept.

What is a realistic target for Trinidad and Tobago?
We are only a country of 1.3 million, but I've played in the best team in Europe and there are times when even though you're the best team it doesn’t guarantee the result. I've seen upsets so many times - football is full of surprises. What I can guarantee is we will give 100 per cent every time. The manager will get us to play extremely well and make it very difficult for teams to beat us. If we can do that and stick to the methods which took us so far, I don't think we'll have a major problem. People are expecting us to be whipping boys but we're going make sure our opponents know they're in for a fight.

How do you view your Group B rivals?
Our opening opponents, Sweden, are a tricky customer. They've beaten England in the past few years and have a wealth of talent – players like (Fredrik) Ljungberg and (Zlatan) Ibrahimovic. They are very talented, very fit, very physical and it will be as tough a start as you can ask for. England are a team everyone expects to beat us very easily. They have some fantastic players throughout the whole team and even on the bench, and they're a team all our guys are familiar with. Our players in the lower divisions in England will need no incentive – they'll never have another opportunity to play against these big names and what a stage for them to try and compete with them on. Paraguay as a South American team are probably more suited to us, because they'll want to play the game. We've been brought up to play the Brazilian way and Paraguay are in that category. They have some fantastic players but are also physical at times. By then we'll know what direction the team will be going in.

You trained with your old club Man Utd after the Australian season ended. You must have had some banter with United's England players.
I had it every day. Gary Neville was marking me in training and it was 'this is what he's going to do to you' and 'this is what I am going to do to him'. Rio (Ferdinand) and (Wayne) Rooney too. We will probably be texting and phoning each other during the World Cup. Everyone is expecting us to get beaten but the one thing I don't want is to be coming off humiliated - five, six, seven-nil. I want us to walk out there and make sure we compete extremely well and if we do that, who knows.

Finally, enough talk of the Trinidad team - what can we expect from your supporters?
Ten out of ten. They will be very energetic, very colourful. A lot of calypso and steel band, which is our culture. Trinidad and Tobago people know how to have a good time and I am sure that will be the case whatever the outcome is.

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Football / What if everybody was like the brazilians?

« on: May 14, 2006, 02:37:53 PM »

Nah doh get tisik and imagine Whitley running through men midfield like  ahot knife through butter....

I mean imagine if we all had the right to use nicknames on tshirts...what would national team lineups look like?

Some obvious ones for TNT

4 DOG
6 TALLEST
7 ME MUM
10 LATAS
18 BLEEDER
20 SCOTTY

anybody got any more? (TNT or others) (and no obvious ones like calling Dwight Dwight please...)

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Football / Any Candidates for the Reality Check Committee?

« on: May 11, 2006, 07:11:54 PM »

I hereby present my nomination for the post of President of the newly formed reality Check Committee.

This Committee has become necessary in the light of growing and multiplying delusional tendencies among certain forumites.

Exhibit A:

Men parrotting a certain invitee on I95.5 and suddenly quick to up and jump that we can't play 'European style' football. We can't play slow and deliberate and hold on to the ball building up from the back and that we need to play counterattacking football. People went from congratulating the new found patience building up from the back (when Stern missed a sitter) to criticising the coach because we only score when we injected two speed merchants into the game (Jones and Samuel).

Reality Check 1: Counterattacking football is for good defensive teams (see Greece 2004). In no recent time has Trinidad and Tobago been a good defensive team. If we wait for England, Sweden and PAraguay to throw everything at us and catch them on the break, there's a strong chance we'll be down 3-0 before we score.

Exhibit B.
Men bawling for Stern head again. Is like Guatemala all over again. Oh lord. Kenwyne need to play up front with Yorke. Or Kenwyne need to play up front with Glenn, or Kenwyne need to play up front with heself...

Reality check 2: Stern has proven himself. One off game and it happens again. No one seem to remember exactly how Dwight scored the first goal after Samuel crossed it in against Iceland. Kenwyne will never be a go to guy. If you play two strikers, you need a go to guy and a creator. We not even sure Glenn wil be fit. Yorke CANNOT play upfront in this team because as someone said, he is the egg and cheese in the macaroni pie. The few times Yorke has gone up as a striker during the qualifiers, the midfield looked lost and aimless.

Exhibit C
Men quarelling with the 4-5-1. They want 3-5-2 or 4-4-2. To play 3-5-2, you need speedy defenders. The man in the middle have to know how to split his attention in 3 different dimesnsions. 4-4-2 suggests that you start on equal footing with the opponent (who will probably play that) when it comes to ball possession, passing and distribution.

Reality check 3- 352: We do not have either of these qualities as the game against Costa Rica showed. 442 Does anyone here seriously expect us to rival England Sweden or even PAraguay in that department? Neither of those 3 domains are our strong point, and the two European sides are definitely stronger in that respect. We start on the defensive, hence the 4-5-1. A 4-4-2 will impose as we gain confidence during a match or if we're chasing a goal. This has been the case agains tmost teams (except Panama) under Beenie, and he will stick to this philosophy.

Exhibit D
Men are wondering why our first half was so bad and are pointing fingers everywhere.

Reality Check 4: As much as I respect him, Russell Latapy cannot start against a team that is faster than us. Both Sweden and Paraguay are faster, and England can be according to whom they start. Mr. Magician may do sleight of foot but he's still indirect and takes time to pick up speed. It was a mistake of Beenie's to put him on the left (mistake that he's made several times) but necessary because of the composition of the starting midfield with Latapy on it. Birchall, whitley and Yorke all take up spaces that Latapy needs, and necessarily so. As someone rightly points it out, he's only effective when he can drift into the middle, but this automatically puts too mch pressure on the defender just behind him suddenly devoid of cover.
If Latapy starts where he should be, it means that Yorke plays striker or one of the sure starting midfielders is left on the bench (Carlos, Birchall, Whitley or Yorke).
Remind me who Samuel replaced again?

Exhibit E. Collin Samuel is the saviour on the left

Reality Check 5. Collin samuel is all we have on the left actually on the team. But his crossing is still erratic. In the same way that Carlos wastes a lot of attacks on the right after dribbling men out of their socks with crap crosses, Samuels wastes a lot after outrunning men on the left. Until such time that he improves on his servicing, we cannot depend on Samuels to give Stern (or whoever else) an adequate number of opportunities (more reason to work on the buildups through the middle)

Exhibit F Wise is the X Factor we need!

Reality Check 6. It was Grenada. Under 23. He may or may not be the answer, but he hasn't proven anything yet. Beenie obviously sees something in him, but to go from there as to hoping that Glenn stays injured thats just not just delusional. Its downright nasty.

Exhibit G People are letting their patriotism blind them to some very obvious points.

Reality Check 7. Trinidad and Tobago qualified from the weakest intercontinental matchup on the last day after barely beating Bahrain over two legs. In qualifying, we gained exactly one win away from home, two counting the bahrain game out of six. We beat a Mexican B side to reach the playoff.
We shouldn't let these facts limit the scope of our future, but we should let them put our present into perspective. Beenie has very limited resources to work with, but he has done admirably with them. Qualifying for the World Cup doesn't make us a better team than we were before we qualified. It just makes us that more determined to improve.

My fellow forumites, Accept these words in the spirit in which they were said, and God Bless Our Soca Warriors.

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Football / Beenie saying he taking a man from stanby to shadow Glenn...

« on: May 10, 2006, 07:20:08 PM »

Any bets?

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Football / Trinidad and Tobago - The Tom Thumb of the World Cup

« on: May 10, 2006, 09:16:11 AM »

This is the top sports journal in France. Here's their spin on Trinidad and Tobago's World Cup.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/CM2006_32_Triniteettobago.html

There's also a nice video clip. Click on Trinité et Tobago en images. Unfortunately its in French but most of what is related is accurate (witht he exception of them mistaking Stern's missed penalty against Mexico as Yorke's)

It IS TOM THUMB By Anthony THOMAS

Smallest country qualified for the tournament, Trinity-and-Tobago, taken along by Leo Beenhakker, will go to Germany without pressure. The collective euphoria would almost make one forget the heavy task to come against the English neighbor.

The Guru Beenhakker
A victory against Bahreïn would leave the majority of supporters enthousiastic. However, the success earned at the last moment (1-0) in return plaayoff (1-1 at home), made the twocaribean  islands of Trindad-and-Tobago shake, last November 16th. To mark the event, the large 1.3 million habitants, more accustomed to following the exploits of the sprinter Ato Boldon or the cricket team, were given a national holiday. "to qualify for the World cup, is like winning the most difficult of competitions" summarizes Dwight Yorke, captain of Soca Warriors and victor of the League of the Champions with Manchester in 1999. Without any experience on this level, the Trinidadians sail, since, between euphoria and the fear of being an also ran in Germany, eight years after the Reggae Boys of Jamaica. If every adventure must have a hero, the selector Leo Beenhakker will be that of the Red and Black. In April 2005, the former trainer of Ajax Amsterdam and Real Madrid took in hand a moribund team, in last place in the final round of the Concacaf zone. Assisted by the veteran Russel Latapy, ' luxury wildcard' and assisting coach, the Dutchman built a balanced confident team balanced between foreign based and local players.
Result: a fourth unhoped-for place earned thanks to four victories. Principally, a success against the Mexican giant (2-1). "Since he arrived, we are a new team, more organized, more disciplined", explained the attacker Scott Sealy.

A professional Championship since seven years
But the success of Soca Warriors, it should also be known is to digest its past failures to structure their football. Twice before, the selection had missed its ticket for a final phase at the time of the last match, in 1974 (1-2 in Haiti) and in 1990 (defeat 0-1 vis-a-vis in the United States). Since, the Federation, helped by the patron and vice-president of the FIFA, Jack Warner professionnalised local football to not depend so much on the isolated performances from exiled players. In 1999, Proleague, a professinal Championship, was born. Seven to ten teams dispute it. The young players must evolve there at least a season to be able to justify a selection. However the foreign based still form the spinal column of the team around three veterans, central defender Dennis Lawrence (31 years), the playmaker Russel Latapy (37 years) and striker Dwight Yorke (34 years). If he does not have his vivacity of the MAnchester epoch, his touch remains decisive in his position of number "nine and half". Rather discrete in qualification, the main star awoke at the right time, with a decisive corner against Bahreïn and a double in a friendly against Iceland (2-0) at the beginning of March. In Germany, Trinidadians will be able to duel with England, the old colonial power where many of the internationals play. The majority of Soca Warriors are in the second or even the third division.

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Football / No pan for World Cup?

« on: May 09, 2006, 11:20:36 AM »

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-669420,36-769737@51-767855,0.html

Translation:

FIFA has confirmed that steelpans will be prohibited from the stadiums during the World cup in Germany. For Europeans, it is an obvious decision. The Trinidadian instrument is a kind of metal barrel  on which the musician supporters beat as on a drum, and its volume is strong enough to give cold sweats to any security service.

But with Trinidad-and-Tobago, in the Caribbean, cradle of the steelpan (also called steeldrum), FIFA's decision raises indignation among supporteurs of the smallest team qualified for the 2006 World Cup (June 9 - July 9). Dwight Yorke, the captain of the Soca Warriors, still has not got over it. Learning the news, Saturday May 6, he still doubted: "It would be a pity really that they prohibit them. For us, it is an enormous support... It is a part of our culture!" The steelpan was born with Trinidad-and-Tobago, at the end of 1930, the evolution of the drums of the African slaves, passing from skin and bamboo to metal. The story goes that an inhabitant of the ghetto of Laventille recovered in bad condition the barrel which he had lent. He decided to hammer it back into shape to repair it but thus created four notes. Today, the instrument is divided into various tonalities and largely exceeds the borders of the small State of the Caribbean. With Trinidad-and-Tobago, the passion is such that it has acquired the status of national emblem. "Everyone has a bond with the" pan "", ensures Terry Joseph, member of the local committee of organization of the World cup.

Vincent Benjamin, known as "Benji", plays since he has the age to hold a rod. Member of the steelband (group of steelpans) since 2003 which accompanies Soca Warriors in all their matches, he tells this particular relation with his national football teaml: "We are inspired mutually. By hearing our rhythms, they move better!" Within the repertory, one finds the traditional ones, from the national anthem to the songs dedicated to the team. But most popular remains My Way. "it is interpreted when they have a fall in their level", Benji ensures. June 10, day of the entry of the Trinidad and Tobago team in World cup football history, against Sweden, will mark the first absence of the Trinidadian fans and their steelpans from the Soca Warriors. Already, November 16, 2005, at the time of the last qualifying match of the 2006 World Cup, the authorities of Bahreïn had tried to make Benji and his/her eleven colleagues "panists" shut up. But the ratio of force had quickly turned on the side of Trinidad-and-Tobago, because a sizeable asset was present that day in the stadium: Jack Warner, president of the Confederation for the Central America and North and the Caribbean (Concacaf), vice-president of FIFA and... Trinidadian. "It was a last minute tactic to decrease the level of our support", he affirms. The FIFA official however could not do anything about the World cup: "prohibition was inevitable." On their side, Benji and his friends ended up being resigned to the idea of supporting the run of their team at the time of the first round of the competition (against Sweden, June 10 in Dortmund, against England, June 15 in Nuremberg, then on June 20 against Paraguay in Cologne) without their instruments: "most important, it is that we are qualified", they ensure. They however have not yet given up making the voyage to Germany without their "pans": "We will play outside the stadiums, if needed. And the Germans literally will fall in love with us! Listen to this music: one cannot stop oneself from moving!" All hope that during the matches Trinity-and-Tobago, the spectacle will move from the field to the doors of the stadium.

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Football / World Cup Player Pools (AKA My 200th post)

« on: May 06, 2006, 07:26:44 AM »

This thread has the sole purpose of congratulating myself for my 200th post 

Actually it could be pretty useful. Its a list of all players having been selected for their countries last 9 (Australia) to 12 qualifiers. It doesn't give you info on if they started, their posiitons and how much they actually played but its generally useful to figure out the players available to each coach. The figure on the right corresponds to each callup they received. I've also tried to note currently injured players with an asterisk. Here goes...

This was a lot of work so please...

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Football / Brazil squad

« on: May 03, 2006, 06:19:41 PM »

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060503/7/6o9p.html

Start pencilling in men. We done know 11 ah them

ps I would like to move for the creation of a child board callled WC squads where all threads pertaining to the selection of foreign world cup squads can be placed

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Football / Costa Rica cut provisional finals squad to 24

« on: May 02, 2006, 04:53:14 PM »

Say what CONCACAF is family, and Costa Rica's performance could determine how many spots are up for grabs next year...

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060502/7/6o3d.html

Goalkeepers: Wardy Alfaro (Alajuelense), Jose Porras (Saprissa), Alvaro Mesen (Herediano)

Defenders: Gilberto Martinez (Brescia, Italy), Roy Miller (Bodo Glimt, Norway), Luis Marin (Alajuelense), Michael Rodriguez (Alajuelense), Harold Wallace (Alajuelense), Jervis Drummond (Saprissa), Douglas Sequeira (Real Salt Lake City, U.S.), Leonardo Gonzalez (Herediano), Michael Umana (Brujas), Gabriel Badilla (Saprissa)

Midfielders: Carlos Hernandez (Alajuelense), Walter Centeno (Saprissa), Christian Bolanos (Saprissa), Randall Azofeifa (Saprissa), Mauricio Solis (Comunicaciones, Guatemala), Danny Fonseca (Cartagines)

Forwards: Ronald Gomez (Saprissa), Alvaro Saborio (Saprissa), Victor Nunez (Cartagines), Kurt Bernard (Puntarenas), Paulo Wanchope (Herediano)

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Football / SSFL Database - Urgent

« on: May 01, 2006, 09:12:48 AM »

After much searching, I've come to the conclusion that there isn't a comprehensive SSFL database available anywhere (at least online) The GS of the SSFL explained to me that it has to do with the fact that the people who run the SSFL are all volontaires (they don't even have an office or a website...)

I am moving to start compiling such a database, not only the winners of each year, but also the final standings, results and even player rostersor match reports.

Some of you out there may have results for their individual schools, particular years, old newspaper clippings etc. Any further questions or any interested parties please PM me.

This can be a socawarriors.net/warrior nation project if the powers that be are so inclined.

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Football / FIFA blank Soca Warriors

« on: April 28, 2006, 07:50:40 PM »

They have all kind of teams in this list that ent make the WC (Uruguay, Wales, Scotland) and they forget to include our match against Iceland.    Anybody know if they forget anybody else?

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/sc/index.html?year=2006&month=3&day=1

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Football / Sealy - the next Stern John?

« on: April 23, 2006, 10:59:58 PM »

In a certain manner, almost anybody could have seen Scott Sealy's exclusion from the National Team. IMO it boils down to a question of styles of the different serious contendors for the forward places.

Jones is the big man against small defenders (think Paraguay?), Collin Samuel gives an element of pace that was lacking on the left. Glen has the powerful shot, Scotland has the ambidextrous ability. Stern is the main man...no comment needed

Stern John. Great capacity to play with back to goal, hustling ability, chest trapping and heading. Style: Poacher
Kenwyne Jones. Raw about the edges but his height and muscle ar useful against smal defenders. Style: Grunt
Samuel. Great pace on the left that was missing before, plus accurate crossing Style: Dynamo
Glenn: Packs a powerful shot. Dribbling capacity can be a plus. Style: Dragonfly
Scotland: capacity to dart into space and run unto the ball. Can control and run with ball on both legs (Butterfly)

Scott unfortunately has the same characteristics as Stern (if not the same class) and Stern, under Beenhakker, will not be subbed for another striker to do the same thing when he replaces him

However, Scott can be something of Stern's understudy in that aspect. C an anyone tell me if there's another striker of similar quality that can fill the role Stern does?

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Football / Forum rearrangement ? Vote

« on: April 06, 2006, 01:56:53 PM »

I was just wondering if it would be possible to separate the online discussion forum into 2 sections. one for things having to do with trinidad football and others more related to foreign football developments (like Champions league, euro cup, etc) I don't know if i'm the only one sick of having to skim through barcelona, real madrid and arsenal related threads on every uefa , matchday.

I guess one could argue that if a trini is on the team involved it'll be hard to classify it, but i'm willing to try it anyway...the wording of the thread wilol advice its classification

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Football / Trinidad and Tobago Profile

« on: February 08, 2006, 09:43:36 PM »

I did this TandT profile of potential players after a template that was elaborated and popularised on bigsoccer (i posted it over there too). You have the right to disagree with me on certain points, in fact comments and criticism (go easy on me nah) are welcome. i based this on the tv footage, planetworldcupreports and formation/selection debates on this site, but its still essentially a work in progress. I tried not to include any player i haven't had the opportunity to see play (sorry for the hardest fans) so there may be a number of notable absentees.

Coach: Leo Beenhakker

Trinidad under Beenhakker seems the most comfortable playing a 4-5-1 system. In a situation where they fall behind, they’ll play 4-4-2. If the opposing team lacks speedy wingers, Beenhakker may be tempted to try a 3-5-2. In a five man midfield, he will likely play a concave arc with either a roaming attacking midfielder or a roaming defensive mid

Probable line up: Jack, Avery John, Andrews, Lawrence, Gray/Spann, Spann/Latapy, Whitley, Edwards, Yorke, Birchall, S. John

Keepers

JACK (Dundee Utd, Scotland)
Suspect on air balls but a solid shot stopper and has the favour of the coach. Only question mark is a possible lack of fitness due to a long term injury.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:80%

HISLOP (West Ham Utd, England)
A great keeper but is past his best. However his experience is an important plus for him. How much starting time he gets in the absence of the injured first choice at West Ham will be an important factor
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:15%

INCE (Coventry City, England)
A decent enough keeper even if his distribution capacity is questionable. However has shown evidence of disciplinary and attitude problems that could make him a liability.
Chances of making squad:50%
Chances of starting:3%

WARNER (Fulham, England)
May (or may not) be a better keeper than all of the others. However he is a relative newbie to the team and his presence may affect the team chemistry. He’d have to have a monster showing in the absence of Jack during preparatory friendlies (if selected) to take even the second choice spot.
Chances of making squad:50%
Chances of starting:2%

Defence

LAWRENCE (Wrexham, Wales)
 A 6ft6 central defender with great application even if he’s a bit uncomfortable witht he ball at his feet. However He’s learned to use his height advantage and his long strides towards a new offensive vocation that’s seem him become an unlikely source of goals
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:100%

ANDREWS (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland)
A big solid physical centerback. The Ying to Lawrence’s Yang. A lot slower (which isn’t saying much and even less comfortable with the ball at his feet but good in the air, rugged, resistant and afraid of noone and nothing.
Chances of making squad: 100%
Chances of starting:100%

A. JOHN (New England Revolution USA)
A decent wing back, usually plays on the left side. Not spectacular but gets the job done. Is more useful for counterattacks coming from the left side but his attacking tendency can be a liability in a three man defence.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:100%

GRAY (San Juan Jabloteh)
A natural right back, he is useful for his speedy runs up the flank.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:55%

COX (Gillingham, England)
Central defender at his club, he improvises rignt back in a four man defense. Is capable of alternating dream and horror games. His age plays against him as does his lack of speed, but his versatility makes him a good back up player (he started his career as a midfielder)  but at 34, his chances are limited.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:20%

SANCHO (Gillingham, England)
Is a relatively versatile player, but not at all starting material. Will probably come on to strengthen the defence in a tactical change or replace someone in a pinch.
Chances of making squad:50%
Chances of starting:15%

David Atiba CHARLES (W Connection)
Seems to be the closest thing to an understudy for Andrews. Can add pace to the central defence but doesn’t have anything close to the international experience of the twin towers.
Chances of making squad:40%
Chances of starting:5%

Anthony Rougier (United Petrotrin)
Utility player, and the reason he’d be selected would be for his capacity to play left back and his crossing ability,but he is way past his prime, and the squad is already old enough as it is.
Chances of making squad:10%
Chances of starting:5%

Midfield

WHITLEY (San Juan Jabloteh)
Has been in incredible form of late. Rapid and agile, is capable of coming out from just in front of his defenders to make long percuting runs into the heart of the opposing defense and create opportunities for the forwards.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:100%

BIRCHALL (Port Vale FC, England)
The tireless ball winner in midfield, he is shaky on his ball control and trapping, but does a lot of the grunt work and also has a powerful long distance blast that makes him a menace.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:100%

EDWARDS (Luton Town, England)
The right wing is his. Capable of twisting and turning any left back out of his socks he is an important part of the attack but needs to work on his aerial crossing to really be a threat in his own right more than a distraction to the opposing defenders
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:100%

YORKE (Sydney FC, Australia)
Team captain and keeps the midfield together with his vision and distribution skills. Also has considerable top flight and international experience. May find himself pushed up as striker in a pinch.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting: 100%

SPANN (Free Agent)
Can play defender as well as left midfielder. A good tackler with decent pace and good ball distribution skills. Will normally start in a five man midfield but not in a four man one
Chances of making squad: 100%
Chances of starting:60%

LATAPY – (Falkirk FC, Scotland)
Excellent dribbler, great ball control and vision. May be the best aerial passer on the team if somewhat inconsistent. Is best left in a roaming role. Unfortunately, by the time the World Cup starts he will be two months shy of his 38th birthday. For this reason he’s likely to be economised by the coach and used as a super sub. His enormous international experience is also useful in situations where the team isn’t chasing.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:40%

THEOBALD – (Falkirk FC, Scotland)
A central midfielder. Capable of filling adequately a number of roles in the midfield but incapable of playing any of them excellently.
Chances of making squad:60%
Chances of starting:15%

RAHIM – (Free Agent)
A technically gifted player with vison but lacking endurance, resistance and fight. His selection will depend a lot on him finding a club and regular play before the World Cup.
Chances of making squad: 40%
Chances of starting: 10%
 

Attack

Stern JOHN (Coventry City, England)
The all time leading scorer for his country and second best goalscorer in CONCACAF qualifying, despite being in his prime has been dogged by a somewhat erratic form and confidence at club level, which has led to him having a less than happy season. Despite his  tendency to fade in and out of games, he is an opportunistic poacher and packs great shot placement from mid range. Having delivered the goods at international level, he should be a definite starter despite the huge pressure on him to succeed.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:100%

JONES (Southampton , England)
A tall, muscular player capable of covering ground quickly, converted from defensive midfield position, he works well as a support striker against small defenders, using his strength and presence to work screens and stall well before passing. He is relatively inexperienced all the same.
Chances of making squad:100%
Chances of starting:10%

GLEN (Colorado Rapids, United States)
A solid rapid striker with a good dribble, a powerful shot and a decent header. Works best running at defenders. Chances of making squad : 90%
Chances of starting: 5%

SEALY (Kansas City Wizards, United States)
A good hustler who protects the ball well, and can power his way past defenders. Can also play very well with back to goal because of his ability to turn an shoot. Had a monster season in the MLS last season. Left to be seen what form the restart will see him in before the World Cup.
Chances of making squad:90%
Chances of starting: 5%

SCOTLAND (St. Johnstone FC, Scotland)
A quick striker capable of making darting runs unto the ball. Works best at distracting opposing defenders, but his capacity to shoot, and shoot well with both feet make him a valuable asset.
Chances of making squad:90%
Chances of starting: 10%

Colin SAMUEL (Dundee United, Scotland)
Hasn’t yet the maturity for a World Cup material but has hit a rich vein of form that may cause the coach to recall him.
Chances of making squad:10%
Chances of starting: 5%

Bobby ZAMORA (West Ham Utd, England)
A decent striker, quick and opportunistic, capable of converting anything that comes his way but not much of a creator. Former England youth player. Is in prolific form with his club and has expressed interest in playing for the Soca Warriors, but only after repeatedly turning them down. His top flight experience can be a plus but his presence may only be a source of discord.

Chances of making Squad: 1%
Chances of starting: 65%

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Football / SSFL Standings and results

« on: January 21, 2006, 12:32:24 AM »

Anybody know where i could find Secondary schools standings and football results. The TTFF website only goes up to 2002 and they don't have the complete tables. I would a scout the newspaper archives, but the online ones don't go beyond 2003. Any one ah alyou know somebody that keeping them clippings since they was in school lol?

Thanks in advance