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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Barbados Game (06-Sept-11)
« on: September 06, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »anybody know 195 number?
To call in live to the studio....622-3937.....
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anybody know 195 number?
To call in live to the studio....622-3937.....
As far as I'm concerned there will be only one reason and that is coach Pfister and the fact that we have him from the start of the qualifiers as opposed to half way through the final stage.
Having said that I would hope that Look Loy and co, if and when they get into power, would put in a JW clause in the constitution. that Clause would put the brakes on any individual trying to be T&T's god to football.
I don't know how they can put a clause like that in the constitution. The many legal minds on this forum can give their insight to this. For a Jack Warner type situation not to happen again, is to give the power back to the clubs and not the zone associations. This has made the clubs weak and the head of the zone assocation being easier to be manipulated. This time around I hope the clubs reps. behave in a more mature manner than those of the early Jack Warner era.
President you forgot to add that while Lookloy was banned it was Gally Cummings who gave him a chance to re enter the national football scene when no one wanted to touch him with a ten foot pole! Instead of being grateful he has undermined him at every level! What an ingratiate! He is not Presidential material. All talk and no real success!
We need some new blood and young blood at that!
Real disapointed that Camps never got abuse. I booed, and everyone just looked at me!
I will support this disorganised WC qualification campaign on one condition! That we all agree to boo Mr Camps whenever we see him at a football game or anywhere else for that matter! Can't have FS booing alone by himself like if is one he who really cares about change in the TTFF!
If allyuh could agree to that then I happy for now to throw my support behind this campaign that Flex has aptly dubbed " Road to Rio Claro"!
Matter of fact it was one of the most unfulfilling 3-0 wins I've witnessed and them fellas will need to pick it up a notch come qualifiers. Pfister heself too, is a friendly and you waiting till the 80th minute to send on subs?? What yuh expect to learn from those subs giving them 10 and 5 minute run out?
Anyhow all said and done say wha.. Allyuh go see meh in the Bermuda game.
I spoke to Shabazz about organising this for him. The man take my idea and gone above my head yes...when will these fools in T&T, (TTFF & the Pro league) finally realise that you dont build and are unable to support a sports club in a poor and depressed are. All you would get is a bunch Weary 69 and others of her ilk who only want to see football for free. Pro sports need paying fans not " real Fans." That is why the pro league is nothing more than a welfare league. And now we have this fool for a sports minister offering more welfare. He learning well from JW and the US democrats. Or did the US democrats learn from the T&T political parties?
I hope it come off the ground but I hope they know what they doing cause is real details to be ironed out to make it work
. Keon Daniel is that you?
classic story, whenever ah t&t man leave home do go north, no matter wuh de job is we does wukk extra hard to survive
thanks for clearing that upI wonder how many here truly understand the role of an assistant coach?
Seems as though you fully understand this role. please enlighten us.
yuh assuming
I wonder how many here truly understand the role of an assistant coach?
Fazeer why the negative vibes?
Fazeer is one-eye man in blind man country. This man has been writing more shit than Coops on a regular basis and, believe it or not, gets paid to do it. Poor Coops must be sulking in a corner all now. It is said that brevity is a sign of intelligence. fazeer is must be one dumb......
What exactly is the shit you are referring to?
Fazeer why the negative vibes?
Saga PintoWhat a bunch cya crock. Maybe your son's future was always in academics and could not make out of the age grouping. "Poor Jack"?...typical.
The last time I shared a comment on TT football was just before the U17 team went to Korea. At that time I think some of your colleagues on the SWF felt that I was writing in defense of my son. Truth be told, I was in part. However my comments were also an attempt to share a perspective which at the time I don't think the majority grasped. Maybe after the perceived failure of current U17 and U20 teams, it will now make more sense to you.
I have read with great amusement the comments made on the forum after the U20 team's 5 nil loss to Mexico. Some forumites are blaming the coach, others blame the players, some say it is Jack's fault (poor Jack) others think its the lack of a development system. Ready for this? The answers is (d) None of the above. The real culprits for this big let down are the fans, particularly those on this forum and their foolish expectations. Hear me out before you stone me.
The problem with you folks is that you harbor unrealistic expectations. “We going Brazil” Really?
Your unrealistic expectations are based on what I consider to be 3 fluke occurrences:
1 Senior team qualification for Germany( fluke).
2. U17 Qualification or Korea (fluke)
3. U20 Qualification for Egypt (also a fluke).
Fluke occurrences are no basis for building a sustainable business model. In each of the above cases we qualified for the WC on the last goal in the last game. I am not a knowledgeable soccer fan so I may get names and times mixed up, but I seem to remember Dennis Lawrence (of all people) scoring a once-in-a-lifetime header to get us to Germany in the last do or die game, (how many headers has he scored in his career?). Young Molino scored one goal in the last do or die game against Jamaica to get us to South Korea and if I remember correctly, Sean De Silva scored one goal to get us to Egypt. Imagine scoring one single goal in a 3 or 4 game tournament and qualifying for the U20 world cup. Teams that have the right to be disappointed by a 5-0 result at that level, are those who have earned the right to be there by consistent performance. T&T lost all 3 games in Korea conceding 15 goals and scoring 1. We lost in Germany (conceding 5?) and drew one in Egypt (conceding 5?) for a total tally of about 25 against and 2 for. When the US embarrassed us last time with a 3 nil cut ass, men on the forum wanted to die. Did you really expect a different result? The problem is that fans have deluded themselves into thinking that these flukes are a norm, so when we collect 5 from a world class team like Mexico, everybody upset.
This delusion exists at many levels, not just with the fans. Some of the coaches themselves are infected with the madness. When we were in South Korea for the U17 tournament, I had a brief chat with Anton Corneal at the players hotel the day before the first game against Ghana. I asked him how the boy were feeling and if he had worked out the approach to the game. He said that the approach was all out attack and we were going to run the Ghanians into the ground. He predicted a TT win by 3 clear goals. Now I am no football coach, but that sounded like sheer madness to me. All out attack Anton? You must be mad. I told him that I heard that Ghana selected the final 20 players by lining up their best 40 and releasing the lions. Anton didn't find that funny at all. I said to a friend of mine later, “Chris, we getting 5.” So said so done. T&T persisted with this “attack with full force” lunacy throughout the tournament as if our opponents were the underdogs instead of us. Talk about delusional.
Now, I don't mind if the fans and coaches delude themselves. Fans and coaches really don't really have much to lose. The TTFF is hell-bent on hiring expensive coaches thinking that it will make a difference and since they have money to burn, every coach will promise them all sorts of miracles and take their money.
I am most concerned that the madness of unrealistic expectations has also infected the players, their parents and handlers. Every little boy who gets called to a TT youth team begins to dream of being the next Dwight or Russel or Shaka. Parents who see their son dribble through the unskilled competition at the trial stages, pretty soon begin to believe that crap. What the players and parents don't realizes that York, Latapy and Hislop, in a T&T context, were also flukes. These 3 happened to possess the innate talent that none of our current youth players have. The problem is that some people, including certain idiotic local coaches, make these young players and parents believe that it could happen to them too. They don't realize that, apart from the dynamic trio, the other TT players who are currently playing overseas football for real money, (Kenwene, Carlos, Stern etc) are by international standards, mediocre at best and could drop out of reckoning any day. Yet all these parents think that their son is special and that they will make it big like Dwight.
Experience does not support this expectation. We had the same bunch of players make it to 2 youth world cups, U17 and U20. Many of the parents who went to Korea were genuinely expecting that their sons would be discovered by foreign scouts and plucked from obscurity like Dwight was. How many of them have been so lucky? None. If you go back to my email to you before the U17 world cup, I picked just one player to make it big, Daniel Cyrus. I still have a hope for him, that is, if his genius agent Mr Look Loy doesn't screw it up for him. The other players with youth world cup experience who have banked their futures on pro football, are, with the exception of Primus, “earning their living” in that poor excuse for a pro league in T&T, waiting for some fairy god-father to take them away to Europe or the MLS. They don't realize that the reason they cant break in to the big times is that they just don't have the talent. Every one of them (except Cyrus) who has been to overseas trials and has returned empty handed. Incidentally, where is Jamal Gay now?
I want to thank Touches and Jah Goal for opening my eyes to the harsh realities of being a soccer parent. Their comments on my son's skill level years ago, caused me to re-evaluate what I was led to believe by certain supposedly well informed persons. After a careful review of specific criteria, I concluded that the chances that my son (or any of the other U17 players) had of “going pro” (outside of the TT Pro league) were remote at best. This certainly was not the lotto that I wanted to gamble his future on. I began to focus him on using his soccer talent as a ticket to get a free education. So far, he is not doing too badly with a 3.7 GPA and is currently preparing for the LSAT to enter Law school. My role has changed from being his football manager to his academic manager and it is my job to make sure that he stays focused. I hope that Leston Paul, Sean De Silva, Stephen Knox, Qian Grosvner, Uriah Bentick and the other few who are on scholarships in the US, understand that the real value of their soccer talent is to get free education and not play the ass in school, as most young men tend to.
It may appear that I am presenting an unfairly pessimistic and negative view of our talent pool, so I am providing you with a free acid test to assess potential pro prospects. Here it is...Jake Thompson. Jake requires no work permit to play in the UK and is a product the UK development system. He is also yards ahead ability-wise of any of our local U23 players and yet he is one of many fighting hard to earn his place in the real world of pro soccer. My advice is that unless your “next Dwight” son can match Jake for ability and has a European passport or Green Card, then make sure he knows how to read, write and spell well enough to maintain a 2.0 GPA and meet NCAA standards.
Finally Saga Pinto, I have a prediction for forumites who still believe that T&T belongs at the world stage. Sorry to bust your bubble, but it will be another 20 years at least before T&T qualifies for another world cup at any level. My advice is to stock up on Prozac. Until then, I want to encourage you to continue contributing to the forum. It has been a source of much comic relief for me.
Fenwick Breds,do so eh like so,now we all know how it feels to take away a man's bread and butter.Take legal action at least you have options Marvin has non.
Keon had potential to be in the EPL, still does..
come on Keon, work hard and prove your talent, all the best and make us proud
From what I am seeing so far JA is the better team. Ja look ready. Sadly T&T really look as though they were in over their head. I hope the better team wins. So far it looks like JA.Ja up 1-0 jamaica playing good footballLet's hope Sam's prediction goes true to form. Only in reverse.
Trinidad seals U-17 QF berth with late goalThat licks like it hurting this writer more than the the Guatemalans. Just look at the stats and explain to me how they jive with his assessment ofthe game.....Jamaicans are an extremely envious people.
MONTEGO BAY, Jamaica - Adan Noel scored one minute into second-half stoppage time and Trinidad & Tobago defeated Guatemala 1-0 on Thursday to reach the quarterfinals of the CONCACAF Under-17 Championship.
Trinidad finished its Group C play with four points from two games, three better than Jamaica and four ahead of Guatemala, which must beat the host on Saturday to advance.
Noel's strike came somewhat against the run of play, driving a rebound from 23 meters after his free kick struck the Guatemalan wall.
Guatemala, which had coach Gary Stempel expelled in the 30th minute, was reduced to 10 men immediately after the goal when keeper Johnny Navarro, who already had a yellow, was ejected by Barbadian referee Trevor Taylor apparently for dissent.
Neither team generated much offensively at the start, with both sending passes awry.
Possession and chances improved in the second half, and with Guatemala's Luis Perez putting a left-footed shot over the crossbar.
An increasing number of half chances followed, however, with Navarro tipping a speculative effort from Trinidad over the crossbar.
In the 74th minute, Albert Barrientos came close for Guatemala, which looked the more likely team to score.
Guatemala outshot Trinidad 19-11, but only seven of the 30 chances were on goal.
STATS SHEET
Shots
Guatemala 19, Trinidad & Tobago 11
Shots on Target
Guatemala 3, Trinidad & Tobago 4
Saves
Guatemala 3, Trinidad & Tobago 3
Fouls
Guatemala 16, Trinidad & Tobago 18
Corner Kicks
Guatemala 4, Trinidad & Tobago 5
Offsides
Guatemala 5, Trinidad & Tobago 0
http://www.concacaf.com/page/Under17s/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2296023,00.html
I only dealing in facts and not conjecture and hope...
Fact: We in the quarters
Fact: Jamaica not
Fact: Concentrate on your next game and stop grand charging
Fact: good luck to both team because I really dont care, I only have 1 team
GO WARRIORS!!!!!
OK just never heard of before. Seems to have an ok CV then.....i am so hoping that he proves me wrong...they seem to be doing good though..much better than i thought.Well I really wanted to know about him...his accomplishments experience etc....but I must say that this is the first time I am hearing him speak and must admit his words and demeanor have left a good impression on me. Lets see if our play matches his words.well look himWe will lose. I wish them the best but T&T have a history of only two reasonable local coaches, GAlly and Bertille. These two, while not being good tactitions, demanded a level of comittment and discipline from their players. I dont know if Cooper is a disciplinarian or a good tactition I dont know about him but then again that is the history of JW and the TTFF in picking local coaches. Latapy may or may not have been a good tactition but I can safely say that his history of indiscipline was borne out in our play on the field. Put the names in a bag and pull out one. I guess our indisciplined and bachanal infused society is not conducive to producing good coaches. I hope Cooper proves me wrong; but I doubt it.
If u dont know him, then why this assessment?
For exactly that reason. I dont know him. If he proves me wrong then i was wrong. I will make you a bet right now that I am not wrong. Andre i live in the real world not in one seen through rose-tinted glasseshttp://www.youtube.com/v/dJgBb31_nq4 http://www.youtube.com/v/3Uy_q8oSxrI
he used to coach at Naps when the dominated a few years back
all yuh hear me?
Go Warriors.....like it working.....Go Warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all yuh hear me?
Well I really wanted to know about him...his accomplishments experience etc....but I must say that this is the first time I am hearing him speak and must admit his words and demeanor have left a good impression on me. Lets see if our play matches his words.well look himWe will lose. I wish them the best but T&T have a history of only two reasonable local coaches, GAlly and Bertille. These two, while not being good tactitions, demanded a level of comittment and discipline from their players. I dont know if Cooper is a disciplinarian or a good tactition I dont know about him but then again that is the history of JW and the TTFF in picking local coaches. Latapy may or may not have been a good tactition but I can safely say that his history of indiscipline was borne out in our play on the field. Put the names in a bag and pull out one. I guess our indisciplined and bachanal infused society is not conducive to producing good coaches. I hope Cooper proves me wrong; but I doubt it.
If u dont know him, then why this assessment?
For exactly that reason. I dont know him. If he proves me wrong then i was wrong. I will make you a bet right now that I am not wrong. Andre i live in the real world not in one seen through rose-tinted glasseshttp://www.youtube.com/v/dJgBb31_nq4 http://www.youtube.com/v/3Uy_q8oSxrI
plenty negative comments based on no true facts but pessimism and fear...I just waiting for when they win and ah whole bunch of specialist/experts will come out and give their analysis like they always knew.Typical rose-tinted trini glasses. You really feel by saying go warriors thaT WE WILL WIN. iF THATS ALL IT TAKES THE ...GOOOOo wARRIORSSSSS.
Boy, the fact is that these are all youths and this will be the biggest games of their careers up to now, and that goes for all teams...
Seems to me the coach put together a T&T team to give them an opportunity to face most situations 'at this age' and qualify...which means his team has size, speed and strength first, then enough set skills in certain areas of the field to get a positive result.
Now this is only my observation and a coach has to go with what he feels most comfortable to execute his plan and tactics.
It should also be remembered the core and most of this squad selected, playing and training together over a year, so that has some value.
My only concern, if any, is if we have enough quality for the better skilled teams that have quick touches and movement off the ball. I more afraid of Guatemala than Jamaica, because their style can present problems if we only playing counter attack style and not holding the ball enough. Jamaica will be straight ahead at pace, so it will be a speed and size match up, and with the big Tobago boy Dario and Damani, they can match up well with that style of play.
The captain Muckette will bring composure and quality, with Jomal being unpredictable but capable of special moments. The wingers have plenty speed and forward (Henry) a hard shot.
Remember, Jamaica playing in front of their home crowd and for youths, that can be a lot of pressure, not necessarily an advantage.
I giving T&T a 2-0 victory...GO WARRIORS!!!!!
We will lose. I wish them the best but T&T have a history of only two reasonable local coaches, GAlly and Bertille. These two, while not being good tactitions, demanded a level of comittment and discipline from their players. I dont know if Cooper is a disciplinarian or a good tactition I dont know about him but then again that is the history of JW and the TTFF in picking local coaches. Latapy may or may not have been a good tactition but I can safely say that his history of indiscipline was borne out in our play on the field. Put the names in a bag and pull out one. I guess our indisciplined and bachanal infused society is not conducive to producing good coaches. I hope Cooper proves me wrong; but I doubt it.
If u dont know him, then why this assessment?
After observing and reading the preparations for this Young Reggae Boyz team, including the scorelines against the US and Costa Rica. I am confident this match won't be a repeat of the 2007 debacle under Boxhill.
I predict a 4-1 win for the Young Reggae Boyz.