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The Politics of Soccer
« on: June 13, 2006, 04:52:27 AM »
Here is part of an article about the politics of Soccer/Football.  He feels that African and Asian nations are over reppresented at the expense of better nations.  And Israel should be in but was not grouped with its logical geographical neighbours.  I disagree with this man a lot but he does have a point about Israel. But I disagree with keeping developing football nations from participating.  Comments anybody??  HE did NOT mention T&T in his criticism.


Michael Coren, National Post Published: Tuesday, June 13, 2006

And so it begins. A hiatus of soccer enthusiasm so that Canadians can return to their cultivated indifference by the middle of July. It's impossible to deny that soccer is the one truly international sport and that the World Cup -- not, please, "FIFA World Cup," which is like referring to the "NHL Stanley Cup" -- does try to be fair and representative.

Yet fashionable politics penetrated soccer some time ago, which is why African and Asian countries are, frankly, over-represented in Germany. In a direct match between several European and Latin American teams that didn't qualify for the finals and several African and Asian ones that did, the former would win most of the time.

It's one thing to encourage the development of the game in specific regions but quite another to have, for example, Denmark and Uruguay staying at home while Togo and Angola are in Germany.

Another country not present is Israel, which almost won a qualifying group that included, among others, France, Ireland and Switzerland. The latter are in the tournament even though Israel, which finished tied for second, had the same number of points. Israel should in fact be playing in their geographical region, against Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. And if they did so, they would advance at every opportunity......

Read the rest at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/issuesideas/story.html?id=621bb659-2b31-4c28-b806-bf922a36b0a8

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Re: The Politics of Soccer
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2006, 07:48:13 AM »
*yawn*

Its amazing how some journalists become football experts in the blink of an eye. The geographical discrepancy with Israel has been going on for decades - it seems like the only place israel hasn't been put to qualify out of is CONCACAF. Its a political problem, not a football one.

As for the overrepresentation of African and Asian teams, men on bigsoccer have been discussing this since rock of ages was a pebble...

The fact of the matter is that there are some people who feel that the World Cup should restrict itself to Europe and South America. They never seem to realise that Europe despite putting up the bulk of the successful teams in the World Cup, always throws up a few stinkers (slovenia 2002) and even moreso downright boring teams (russia 02, austria, belgium and bulgaria 98)

Going on past World Cup results Africa IS overepresented (they usually have 1 great team and 4 mediocre ones out of their 5) as is Asia (non host teams have done awfully) whereas CONCACAF has actually done creditably, notably thanks to the consistency of Mexico, and the efforts of the US in 94/02 and Costa Rica in 90/02.

To be fair to the man, though, he didn't go into the north american bashing that is usually par for the course (maybe because he's canadian, and nothing once seemed to suggest that he didn't think Trinidad and Tobago deserved our place). If you want to see that -

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=262
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Re: The Politics of Soccer
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2006, 08:48:16 AM »
*yawn*

Its amazing how some journalists become football experts in the blink of an eye. The geographical discrepancy with Israel has been going on for decades - it seems like the only place israel hasn't been put to qualify out of is CONCACAF. Its a political problem, not a football one.

As for the overrepresentation of African and Asian teams, men on bigsoccer have been discussing this since rock of ages was a pebble...

The fact of the matter is that there are some people who feel that the World Cup should restrict itself to Europe and South America. They never seem to realise that Europe despite putting up the bulk of the successful teams in the World Cup, always throws up a few stinkers (slovenia 2002) and even moreso downright boring teams (russia 02, austria, belgium and bulgaria 98)

Going on past World Cup results Africa IS overepresented (they usually have 1 great team and 4 mediocre ones out of their 5) as is Asia (non host teams have done awfully) whereas CONCACAF has actually done creditably, notably thanks to the consistency of Mexico, and the efforts of the US in 94/02 and Costa Rica in 90/02.

To be fair to the man, though, he didn't go into the north american bashing that is usually par for the course (maybe because he's canadian, and nothing once seemed to suggest that he didn't think Trinidad and Tobago deserved our place). If you want to see that -

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=262
I went to the web site you show ... some Concaccaf and T&T bashing... :'(  But some in support  :)

Other warriors should go there and voice dey opinion.
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