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Kenwyne Jones vs Stoke City: A look at a HR nightmare!
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:41:56 AM »
Stoke versus Kenwyne: An ex-PFA employee reviews an HR headache
By Kevin Harrison (Wired868)


It’s been interesting to watch the recent debates following Kenwyne Jones rather public dispute with his employer, Stoke City. Jones was fined two weeks’ wages by Stoke boss, Mark Hughes for informing him, by text, that he wouldn’t be attending his club’s recent fixture against Liverpool.

There are those who have said that the punishment was harsh – after all, Jones had not been used recently and would, almost certainly, have watched the game unfold from the sidelines. Others said Jones wanted to transfer away from Stoke and was vexed that his request was denied by Hughes.

We don’t know the details or the reason for this rift, but it does raise the point about the rights of footballers, their obligations to their employers and the ability of clubs to control the careers of their players.

Having experienced players and clubs actions from the viewpoint of a football supporter, a footballers’ union representative and a football club director, it is usually difficult to see these disputes resolved to everyone’s satisfaction.

A supporter usually sees things from a very partisan position; their only interest is the club. Players, owners and coaches come and go but supporters are there for life. They want their club to win games and if some petulant prima donna believes he is bigger than their club, they will close ranks and make their feelings known. They will bestow hero status on an average player who, literally, gives blood for their club; but if a player disrespects their club, he will feel the full force of fan power.

Deciding to skip a game – especially one as big as the Liverpool match – will not endear Jones to the Stoke faithful. Every great “KJ” performance or goal will be forgotten; the Jones replica jerseys will become an embarrassment.

Again, this may not be fair, as Jones may well have very pertinent reasons for his actions and may feel justified in his protest. But when have fans ever been fair? Ask any referee or linesman!

Having worked with players and clubs as a representative of the English Professional Footballers Association, I have witnessed dreadful behavior by clubs and coaches and equally poor behavior by players. Both believed that their actions were justified.

Football is different to most professions. Whereas, for example, a factory or office worker can call – or maybe text – their boss to say that they won’t be in work today in what is known in the UK as a “duvet day” (so called because people prefer to stay in bed under their duvet on a cold wet Monday morning), footballers do not enjoy such latitude.

Footballers sign very rigid contracts which usually stipulate that when a player is injured or ill, unless he receives permission from the club physio or doctor, he must attend training. Usually, the player is expected to change into his training gear and, if the physio decides he cannot train, he watches the training from the sidelines.

Similarly, personal or family problems cannot be an automatic reason for non-attendance. A call to the coach may result in permission to miss training or a game but suffering from a “tabanca” will often not be reason enough to stay at home.

This may seem very archaic to some but football clubs run on discipline and you simply can’t have players decide to miss training or games because they don’t feel up to it.

Reportedly, Jones earns the equivalent of TT$400,000 per week. That is more than nearly five years’ salary for a Trinidad and Tobago police officer.  Is it really so bad to be paid that kind of money to watch football from the stands or have to drag yourself to training when you feel under the weather?

But, of course, the size of his pay package is irrelevant. Jones deserves to earn as much as he can and if Stoke City didn’t think he was worth the money, they wouldn’t agree to pay him. And like any employee, his basic rights do not diminish according to how high his salary is.

He is human and he has emotional and professional concerns. I have never met a footballer who enjoys sitting in the stands watching others play.

There is also the rejection of being passed over by his employer. Aside from seeing teammates selected ahead of him, Jones has also watched new arrivals push him further from the starting lineup. This must take its toll upon his psyche.

And what about the club and coach?

Hughes is living on a tightrope. A string of poor results will see him without a job and those results depend on the players’ performances, which often hinges on good team work and morale.

When a player starts to “act up”, it can affect the harmony and morale of the entire squad; so, standards must be maintained and examples made.

The biggest fear is that one incident leads to another and, before long, the coach “loses the dressing room”, discipline breaks down and performances drop. So a coach will always try to nip this in the bud, even if it he may seem heavy handed at times.

Meanwhile, Stoke City is obliged to pay Jones’ salary whether he is playing or not and, in return, expects him to be professional.

It appears that Hughes does not want to part with Jones. Although he prefers to play Peter Crouch upfront, Crouch could become injured or lose form at any time and it might be reassuring to have a striker of Jones’ quality in reserve.

It may not be ideal for Jones but that’s the nature of the beast. Many players have been in that position and the only answer is to keep training and try to impress the coach. If you get your chance, you have to take it.

The worst position in football is reserve goalkeeper as substitutions are rare and squad rotation usually is not a factor. Former Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeper Tony Warner won a FA Cup runner-up medal for Liverpool despite never making a first team appearance for them in five years!

Clubs and players will always have disputes and players’ unions are essential to mediate between the two and resolve the dispute, if possible, with no damage to the player’s career.

If a player has acted incorrectly, the union would encourage an apology and try to limit the punishment metered out by the club. Of course, if the club has behaved incorrectly, the union will use its full weight to support the player. But, they will aim for a win – win resolution if possible.

Having the privilege of knowing Jones, I suspect his reasons were sound but his actions might have been out of frustration. With the involvement of the PFA, I’m hoping that both player and club will move past this dispute and Jones will be able to focus on his game.

It may be that Jones gets his way and a transfer out is arranged. A fresh start would do him the world of good and Hughes won’t want to keep a player who is unhappy.

However, Hughes also cannot allow Jones’ actions to set a precedent where players force their club to allow them to move on. He has to win points to keep his job and he can only allow players to leave if he has replacements ready.

In the meantime, Jones could do without the label of “trouble maker” following him to the next club. The world of football is small and reputations can easily be damaged, even if the player is in the right – ask Brent Sancho and Kelvin Jack!
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 08:49:55 AM by Tiresais »

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Former Stoke striker Kenwyne Jones appeals against fine
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 03:16:47 PM »
Former Stoke striker Kenwyne Jones appeals against fine
By John Percy (The Telegraph)


Kenwyne Jones is fighting Stoke City over an £80,000 fine after attending a disciplinary hearing at his former club on Wednesday.

Jones has contested his punishment from January, when he was docked two week's wages for failing to report for the Premier League game against Liverpool, and was at Stoke's Clayton Wood training ground yesterday.

The 29-year-old left Stoke for Cardiff in January in a swap deal involving Peter Odemwingie but is still unhappy with the fine and has appealed through the Professional Footballers Association.

Jones has claimed there were personal reasons behind his decision to make himself unavailable for the home game against Liverpool, a move which infuriated manager Mark Hughes after he was notified by text message the night before the match.

The hearing was led by chairman Peter Coates and included Jones, his agent, and PFA representative Simon Barker.

Stoke now have 10 days to consider the appeal and will either stand by the punishment or reduce the fine.

Jones could take the matter to the Premier League if he is still unsatisfied with the outcome.

The Trinidad & Tobago international has scored one goal in eight appearances since moving to South Wales.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones vs Stoke City: A look at a HR nightmare!
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 03:52:03 PM »
Lou Macari: Stoke City old boy Kenwyne Jones has a cheek
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"I don’t think Kenwyne Jones will be starting against Stoke on Saturday because Cardiff surely have to stick with the players that won at Southampton, but if he’s fit again there has to be a chance he’s on the bench.

Any Stoke player angered by his refusal to play with them against Liverpool in January might just want to win that bit more at Cardiff.

As for Jones launching his appeal last week against the maximum two-week fine Stoke imposed after that refusal to play, words almost fail me quite frankly.

It’s a bloody cheek, no other way to describe it.

Take your medicine, Kenwyne, because it’s not as if the level of the fine is going to leave you behind on your mortgage payments, is it?

He claimed he had to behave the way he did before the Liverpool game because Stoke’s refusal to sell was stifling his career.

Sorry, but it’s his behaviour here that’s more likely to do that.

Surely he’d have been better off working on that touch of his on the training ground instead of spending the day in Stoke appealing against his fine.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones vs Stoke City: A look at a HR nightmare!
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2014, 05:08:35 PM »
It's not a good look.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones vs Stoke City: A look at a HR nightmare!
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2014, 08:22:22 PM »
Lou Macari: Stoke City old boy Kenwyne Jones has a cheek
The Sentinel


"I don’t think Kenwyne Jones will be starting against Stoke on Saturday because Cardiff surely have to stick with the players that won at Southampton, but if he’s fit again there has to be a chance he’s on the bench.

Any Stoke player angered by his refusal to play with them against Liverpool in January might just want to win that bit more at Cardiff.

As for Jones launching his appeal last week against the maximum two-week fine Stoke imposed after that refusal to play, words almost fail me quite frankly.

It’s a bloody cheek, no other way to describe it.

Take your medicine, Kenwyne, because it’s not as if the level of the fine is going to leave you behind on your mortgage payments, is it?

He claimed he had to behave the way he did before the Liverpool game because Stoke’s refusal to sell was stifling his career.

Sorry, but it’s his behaviour here that’s more likely to do that.

Surely he’d have been better off working on that touch of his on the training ground instead of spending the day in Stoke appealing against his fine.

Who the hell is this fool.  :cursing:
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Stoke City rejects Kenwyne Jones £75,000 appeal
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2014, 05:13:01 AM »
Stoke City rejects Kenwyne Jones £75,000 appeal
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STOKE City have kicked out Kenwyne Jones' appeal against a maximum two-week fine of around £75,000 after he refused to play for the club.

An appeal hearing headed by chairman Peter Coates has concluded that Jones has no grounds to complain against the level of his punishment.

Jones, who is hoping to play for Cardiff against Stoke on Saturday, met with Coates last week to argue his case.

Jones texted manager Mark Hughes the night before the televised home game against Liverpool on January 12 to say he was making himself unavailable.

He denied he had gone on strike – yet admitted he had refused to play in order to highlight his frustration at the club's refusal to either play him or sell him.

The Sentinel understands he repeated that explanation during his personal appeal hearing last week and it simply didn't wash with his old club.

The club's hierarchy also took the view there was no more serious offence than breaching a contract by simply refusing to play.

Jones now has the option of taking his case to the Premier League or letting the matter rest.

Jones, who was swapped with Peter Odemwingie shortly after his no-show against Liverpool, faces a race against time to be fit to face his old club.

The Trinidadian suffered bruising to his kidneys in the home defeat by Crystal Palace 12 days ago and missed Cardiff's 1-0 win at Southampton on Saturday.

Jones, who cost Stoke £8m from Sunderland in August 2010, left with a record of 26 league and cup goals in 78 starts and a further 37 sub appearances.

He scored what could turn out to be a potentially crucial winner in a 2-1 home win over Norwich on his Cardiff debut, but hasn't netted in five starts and two sub appearances since.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones vs Stoke City: A look at a HR nightmare!
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2014, 12:20:33 PM »
Who the hell is this fool.  :cursing:

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