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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #150 on: September 11, 2013, 06:49:48 PM »
dey could use dat Brian Lara stadium money tuh do that...steups!

Yup.....ah have a stadium ah cyar use and a rapid rail that I could have used but never started.....the priorities man....geez!!...
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #151 on: September 11, 2013, 08:01:51 PM »
I just saw the video that Tallman posted a few days ago.  I like the general idea, but my only beef against a rail-project in T&T (besides the corruption etc) is that we seem to be using 19th and 20th century solutions for the 21st century.  The type of rails and the type of trains although new infrastructure, would be basically the same technology from 100 years ago --- in other words, NOISY NOISY NOISY trains.

Yes I know there's a level of computer automation added to the system...but still, it grinds my gears that we're considering adding old NOISY technology to solve our problems in 2013. 

Anyhows, I still think that if the budget can be kept in-check, and if the corruption can be mitigated we should again seriously consider pursuing it.  There are other fairly new mass transit options that are less noisy, that we should consider looking into though, to see if we can make it work with Trinidad.
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #152 on: September 12, 2013, 10:35:43 AM »
I travelled by train in TT. Take it from me, you get used to it after a while. Unless they use tires like Montreal and Mex. city, I don't see any other alternative. Forget Mag-Lev. In 2121 maybe!

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #153 on: September 12, 2013, 10:57:45 AM »
I travelled by train in TT. Take it from me, you get used to it after a while. Unless they use tires like Montreal and Mex. city, I don't see any other alternative. Forget Mag-Lev. In 2121 maybe!

Oh, I meant the noise pollution in the surrounding areas.  The train-lines (Amtrak and freight trains etc) that pass through the towns here in the US are very antiquated and noisy.  The noise pollution also helps decrease property values somewhat of homes that are located closest to the tracks. 

I could never get use to all that constant noise from trains running every 8-12 mins.
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #154 on: September 13, 2013, 06:18:46 PM »
The noise pollution also helps decrease property values somewhat of homes that are located closest to the tracks

Not in the DC metro area. I can't afford a condo overlooking the metro/csx/amtrax lines. 500 thous. and up. In DC all the metro stops have mixed residential(with parking) and  retail. It is booming real estate market in DC. So it depends on which neck of the woods you are situated.

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #155 on: September 13, 2013, 06:21:28 PM »
The noise pollution also helps decrease property values somewhat of homes that are located closest to the tracks

Not in the DC metro area. I can't afford a condo overlooking the metro/csx/amtrax lines. 500 thous. and up. In DC all the metro stops have mixed residential(with parking) and  retail. It is booming real estate market in DC. So it depends on which neck of the woods you are situated.

I also live in the DC area....
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #156 on: September 17, 2013, 01:55:42 AM »
T&T needs commuter railway system
T&T Guardian Reports.
Monday, September 16, 2013.

Rowley’s response to Howai’s $61b budget…


Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley on Friday responded to Finance Minister Larry Howai’s $61.3 billion budget, which was presented last Monday. Today, we conclude the reproduction of extracts from his speaking notes, which were released by the Office of the Opposition Leader. We have absolutely no doubt that the next Government of Trinidad and Tobago will be a PNM Government and we do not seek office and then proceed to practise on stage when the lights go on. We come ready!…and we ready now!!!!

It is with this confidence that we can now begin to outline some of our policies and commitments to filled the people of Trinidad and Tobago with real hope. Despite the misguided attitude and indifference of those on the other side, many transport studies over the years have identified the need for the introduction of a commuter railway system in Trinidad, going as far back as the 1967 National Transportation Plan for Trinidad and Tobago.

More recently, 16 years ago, in 1996, a study by international consultants, Cansult, justified the need for a rapid rail system. Specialist consultants from India came to the same conclusion some years later.

In studying traffic along our main east-west and north-south corridors, Cansult found that the number of people travelling along the East-West Corridor alone was 21,000 per hour in each direction and predicted an increase to 28,000 by 2015. However, an update by Cansult found that the traffic had increased to 30,000 people per hour by 2007. In other words, the traffic on our main roads had increased at many times the rate predicted earlier.

Although hundreds of thousands of our citizens face the daily grind and maddening frustration of traffic log jams, every day, and face hours  in cars to and from work and school, the other side appears unaware that the international benchmark for the introduction of a mass transit system is 10,000 persons per hour.

 Further, once traffic reaches 20,000 persons per hour, it is well established that a railway is the only effective mass transit solution because buses simply can’t handle these traffic volumes, nor do roadways exist in Trinidad to accommodate the thousands of buses that would be required to move people quickly and efficiently.

Traffic congestion is negatively affecting the country’s productivity and Trinidad and Tobago has the highest level of traffic in the region. It is a clear indication of the inability of our country’s infrastructure to meet new and growing transportation demands. Fifteen years ago, we crossed the traffic threshold for the introduction of a railway, and five years ago we had gone past this threshold by 50 per cent.

It is even worse now, and it is reasonable to conclude that in 2013 that we have more than twice the volume of traffic at which any sensible country would seek to implement a mass transit system. Somebody on the other side must tell the parents and children who wake up at weird hours all over the country to face, twice daily, the certain traffic jams in an ever tightening gridlock on virtually every route, the day  or year when this problem will come to an end.

In June 2008, a contract was awarded to the Trinitrain Consortium for the first phase of a project to design and construct a rail system for Trinidad. Phase 1 involved planning, identification of feasible alternatives, conceptual design and preliminary engineering of the preferred solution. Phase 2 of the project involved detailed design and construction and the final phase involved commissioning and operation of the system.

The cost of Phase 1, the engineering phase, was approximately TT$500 million, with the final cost of the railway project, when fully implemented, estimated at approximately TT$10 billion. To put these costs into perspective, the cost for planning and engineering of our critically needed railway project was five per cent of the cost of construction, well within the international benchmark of ten per cent for similar projects.

Compare this to the cost of consultancy fees and other non-construction costs for the billion-dollar Couva Hospital, now being implemented by the present Government, which, at almost $500 million, are estimated at almost 50 per cent of the construction cost of that project, or ten times the percentage for engineering work on the proposed railway project. Similar outrageous non-construction costs are expected for the dubious Penal Hospital project, earmarked to be given on a platter without tender to the infamous SNC-Lavalin company, which has been banned by the World Bank, among other scandalous contract awards by this discredited regime.

Compare the $10 billion cost for a nationwide mass transit rail system with the $ 7.0 billion Highway which may not reach Pt Fortin from Debe. 

By May 2010, most of Phase 1 of the railway project had been completed.

The route alignment for both the east-west line from Diego Martin to Sangre Grande and the north-south line from Port of Spain to San Fernando had been selected and designed; the station locations had been identified, the preliminary design of the railway stations and depots completed; the land acquisition requirements had been established; the legal framework for the new railway authority had been prepared; the required rolling stock had been identified; the staffing and organizational structure of the railway had been  formulated; contract documentation was well advanced; the maintenance requirements for the railway had been determined, and so on.

What did the UNC Government do?  Bad mouth it and throw it out. What did they replace it with? A sneaky attempt at inviting proposals for a rail system from Port-of- Spain to Arima to give one of their friends a contract . When caught and exposed, they abandoned the idea.  What has the country achieved to solve the traffic problem so far ..zilch, nada, absolutely nothing as the problem gets worse every day.

The original project was split into segments, to allow easy implementation and to spread the cost over several  years. All this hapless Government had to do was to properly invite tenders for the detailed design and construction of the initial railway segments, and to move full speed ahead. If they had done so, by now, the initial east-west line from Port of Spain to St Augustine and the initial north-south line to Chaguanas would have been completed by now, and thousands of commuters would be travelling to work and school in comfort on a modern rapid railway, getting to work in minutes rather than hours.

This project would have truly brought Trinidad and Tobago into the 21st century and created the stimulus for economic growth and diversification, with new commercial and industrial developments and new employment opportunities springing up to serve the new transit system. That would have been real welcomed economic growth rather than having to cheat with random numbers.

But like everything else it was a PNM initiative it had to be bad-mouthed, lied about and discarded in the same way they did with the OPVs, Sautt, and the Wallerfield Industrial Park. They almost wrecked UTT. They abandoned the railway project and wasted all of the important pre-construction and planning work that had been done. They wasted 3 years blaming the PNM for every evil under the sun, whilst twiddling their thumbs. They have proposed no viable alternative solution to our traffic and transportation woes.

After all, if the present Government could spend billions of dollars in the Prime Minister’s constituency and elsewhere on every manner of grandiose and unnecessary mega project, designed primarily to benefit friends and family, we can certainly do better by implementing a much-needed infrastructure project that will benefit every single person in Trinidad.

Up on our return to office we will immediately approach the IDB for a review of the current situation; all existing data and engineering work done to date. Once the word is a go, then the PNM commits to giving the highest priority to building a mass transportation rail system to feature service on a backbone from Diego Martin to Sangre Grande with a southern component to La Romaine.

We will seek to obtain IDB long-term concesionary funding to finance this project which will positively change the face and circumstances of Trinidad and Tobago for the next century. The PNM, the party of development of this country, will once again shoulder the responsibility for developing this country and its people.

We eagerly look forward also to the many economic benefits of the high local input into the building of the route ways over a period of several years and the phased reduction of the intractable billion dollar fuel subsidy  on completion.

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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #157 on: September 18, 2013, 08:54:58 AM »
T&T needs commuter railway system
T&T Guardian Reports.
Monday, September 16, 2013.

Rowley’s response to Howai’s $61b budget…


Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley on Friday responded to Finance Minister Larry Howai’s $61.3 billion budget, which was presented last Monday. Today, we conclude the reproduction of extracts from his speaking notes, which were released by the Office of the Opposition Leader. We have absolutely no doubt that the next Government of Trinidad and Tobago will be a PNM Government and we do not seek office and then proceed to practise on stage when the lights go on. We come ready!…and we ready now!!!!

It is with this confidence that we can now begin to outline some of our policies and commitments to filled the people of Trinidad and Tobago with real hope. Despite the misguided attitude and indifference of those on the other side, many transport studies over the years have identified the need for the introduction of a commuter railway system in Trinidad, going as far back as the 1967 National Transportation Plan for Trinidad and Tobago.

More recently, 16 years ago, in 1996, a study by international consultants, Cansult, justified the need for a rapid rail system. Specialist consultants from India came to the same conclusion some years later.

In studying traffic along our main east-west and north-south corridors, Cansult found that the number of people travelling along the East-West Corridor alone was 21,000 per hour in each direction and predicted an increase to 28,000 by 2015. However, an update by Cansult found that the traffic had increased to 30,000 people per hour by 2007. In other words, the traffic on our main roads had increased at many times the rate predicted earlier.

Although hundreds of thousands of our citizens face the daily grind and maddening frustration of traffic log jams, every day, and face hours  in cars to and from work and school, the other side appears unaware that the international benchmark for the introduction of a mass transit system is 10,000 persons per hour.

 Further, once traffic reaches 20,000 persons per hour, it is well established that a railway is the only effective mass transit solution because buses simply can’t handle these traffic volumes, nor do roadways exist in Trinidad to accommodate the thousands of buses that would be required to move people quickly and efficiently.

Traffic congestion is negatively affecting the country’s productivity and Trinidad and Tobago has the highest level of traffic in the region. It is a clear indication of the inability of our country’s infrastructure to meet new and growing transportation demands. Fifteen years ago, we crossed the traffic threshold for the introduction of a railway, and five years ago we had gone past this threshold by 50 per cent.

It is even worse now, and it is reasonable to conclude that in 2013 that we have more than twice the volume of traffic at which any sensible country would seek to implement a mass transit system. Somebody on the other side must tell the parents and children who wake up at weird hours all over the country to face, twice daily, the certain traffic jams in an ever tightening gridlock on virtually every route, the day  or year when this problem will come to an end.

In June 2008, a contract was awarded to the Trinitrain Consortium for the first phase of a project to design and construct a rail system for Trinidad. Phase 1 involved planning, identification of feasible alternatives, conceptual design and preliminary engineering of the preferred solution. Phase 2 of the project involved detailed design and construction and the final phase involved commissioning and operation of the system.

The cost of Phase 1, the engineering phase, was approximately TT$500 million, with the final cost of the railway project, when fully implemented, estimated at approximately TT$10 billion. To put these costs into perspective, the cost for planning and engineering of our critically needed railway project was five per cent of the cost of construction, well within the international benchmark of ten per cent for similar projects.

Compare this to the cost of consultancy fees and other non-construction costs for the billion-dollar Couva Hospital, now being implemented by the present Government, which, at almost $500 million, are estimated at almost 50 per cent of the construction cost of that project, or ten times the percentage for engineering work on the proposed railway project. Similar outrageous non-construction costs are expected for the dubious Penal Hospital project, earmarked to be given on a platter without tender to the infamous SNC-Lavalin company, which has been banned by the World Bank, among other scandalous contract awards by this discredited regime.

Compare the $10 billion cost for a nationwide mass transit rail system with the $ 7.0 billion Highway which may not reach Pt Fortin from Debe. 

By May 2010, most of Phase 1 of the railway project had been completed.

The route alignment for both the east-west line from Diego Martin to Sangre Grande and the north-south line from Port of Spain to San Fernando had been selected and designed; the station locations had been identified, the preliminary design of the railway stations and depots completed; the land acquisition requirements had been established; the legal framework for the new railway authority had been prepared; the required rolling stock had been identified; the staffing and organizational structure of the railway had been  formulated; contract documentation was well advanced; the maintenance requirements for the railway had been determined, and so on.

What did the UNC Government do?  Bad mouth it and throw it out. What did they replace it with? A sneaky attempt at inviting proposals for a rail system from Port-of- Spain to Arima to give one of their friends a contract . When caught and exposed, they abandoned the idea.  What has the country achieved to solve the traffic problem so far ..zilch, nada, absolutely nothing as the problem gets worse every day.

The original project was split into segments, to allow easy implementation and to spread the cost over several  years. All this hapless Government had to do was to properly invite tenders for the detailed design and construction of the initial railway segments, and to move full speed ahead. If they had done so, by now, the initial east-west line from Port of Spain to St Augustine and the initial north-south line to Chaguanas would have been completed by now, and thousands of commuters would be travelling to work and school in comfort on a modern rapid railway, getting to work in minutes rather than hours.

This project would have truly brought Trinidad and Tobago into the 21st century and created the stimulus for economic growth and diversification, with new commercial and industrial developments and new employment opportunities springing up to serve the new transit system. That would have been real welcomed economic growth rather than having to cheat with random numbers.

But like everything else it was a PNM initiative it had to be bad-mouthed, lied about and discarded in the same way they did with the OPVs, Sautt, and the Wallerfield Industrial Park. They almost wrecked UTT. They abandoned the railway project and wasted all of the important pre-construction and planning work that had been done. They wasted 3 years blaming the PNM for every evil under the sun, whilst twiddling their thumbs. They have proposed no viable alternative solution to our traffic and transportation woes.

After all, if the present Government could spend billions of dollars in the Prime Minister’s constituency and elsewhere on every manner of grandiose and unnecessary mega project, designed primarily to benefit friends and family, we can certainly do better by implementing a much-needed infrastructure project that will benefit every single person in Trinidad.

Up on our return to office we will immediately approach the IDB for a review of the current situation; all existing data and engineering work done to date. Once the word is a go, then the PNM commits to giving the highest priority to building a mass transportation rail system to feature service on a backbone from Diego Martin to Sangre Grande with a southern component to La Romaine.

We will seek to obtain IDB long-term concesionary funding to finance this project which will positively change the face and circumstances of Trinidad and Tobago for the next century. The PNM, the party of development of this country, will once again shoulder the responsibility for developing this country and its people.

We eagerly look forward also to the many economic benefits of the high local input into the building of the route ways over a period of several years and the phased reduction of the intractable billion dollar fuel subsidy  on completion.



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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #158 on: September 18, 2013, 10:37:26 AM »
Regarding the article that Flex posted: 

I don't live in T&T, and don't chose sides politically, but I have to agree with the article.  I'm always in Trinidad, and see absolutely no reason why after so many years people are still putting-up with that ridiculous traffic daily on the nations roads and highways. 

A solution should have been fully implemented by now.   
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Re: Contract for billion-dollar rail system by September.
« Reply #159 on: September 18, 2013, 11:39:47 AM »
At the risk of sounding like a PNM sycophant comparing Rowley's statement to PP 'plans' and there vast difference in quality, ambition and vision for the country, and the whole country too.

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« Reply #160 on: September 18, 2013, 02:50:22 PM »
The noise pollution also helps decrease property values somewhat of homes that are located closest to the tracks

Not in the DC metro area. I can't afford a condo overlooking the metro/csx/amtrax lines. 500 thous. and up. In DC all the metro stops have mixed residential(with parking) and  retail. It is booming real estate market in DC. So it depends on which neck of the woods you are situated.

Deeks, I keep a home in DC so I get what you're saying, so what you wrote is correct....however, I meant to also add that homes that are close to train tracks, but FAR from the convenience of the train stations, are the homes that typically have lower average real estate values.  If a home is near to the noise of the train tracks, but 50 miles from the train station, then the real estate valuation isn't as great as the homes in the same districts, farther from the tracks.   

Cities like DC, Baltimore, NYC, and their out-skirt suburbs are indeed a bit different though, since the convenience of being close to train stations to commute to work is a huge plus.   

I would like to see a modernized mass transport system in Trinidad (yes even trains...lol), but I'm still apprehensive about if Trains are the best way to go, because of all the noise in an already very NOISY Trinidad...lol.    But it looks like a Train-based transit system is indeed probably the best solution right now.  (When that happens, I foresee people making a mint on selling ear-plugs.   ;D:beermug: 
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« Reply #161 on: December 24, 2014, 07:11:39 AM »
This would have been ideal.

Jack Warner, when he became MoT scraped it cause is was not his idea or he wasn't benefitting from it.

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« Reply #162 on: December 24, 2014, 12:00:15 PM »
This would have been ideal.

Jack Warner, when he became MoT scraped it cause is was not his idea or he wasn't benefitting from it.



Right now Jack is passe. He had his chance and we have seen the results. We need the elevated rail or bus or elevated light-rail(elevated along the EW corridor, at least))
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« Reply #163 on: April 22, 2015, 02:00:16 AM »
$256M spent to pay pre-rapid rail bill
T&T Newsday Reports.


Over the past three years Government has paid the sum of $256.7 million on the $500 million loan borrowed by the People’s National Movement (PNM) administration for the pre-feasibility study conducted on the proposed rapid rail system to ease traffic woes.

“If we were to add up (monies spent) for interest rates only for the years 2013 to 2014,” Food Production Minister Devant Maharaj said yesterday. “It will add up to $256.7 million.”

At the sitting of the Senate in Port-of-Spain during the debate on the Bill to establish a Motor Vehicle Authority, Maharaj said PNM senators complain over and over that the People’s Partnership Government has spent billions of dollars on budget after budget, but they do not have the honesty to say how much of the allocation was debt incurred under the PNM.

“Government had no choice, but to set aside $101 million in the 2013 estimate, $97.7 million in 2014, and $58 million in 2015 to pay back the loan for a non-productive exercise,” he said.

That amount spent on the pre-feasibility study, he said, could have bought many hospital beds and buses to operate on the Priority Bus Route to ease traffic congestion.

Noting the PNM was once again talking about reintroducing the rapid rail system if it takes office after the general election, Maharaj said, “any incarnation, past or present, will bankrupt this country.”

If the pre-feasibility would have cost over $500 million, he questioned how much the feasibility study, the compulsory acquisition of land and other property, and the rapid rail infrastructure would cost the State.

He questioned also the PNM’s lack of consultation with stakeholders noting the Maxi Taxi Association last September criticised the party on the reintroduction of its proposal.

“Did they consult the maxi and taxi associations? Did they consult anybody at all apart from the (PNM’s) General Council?” he queried.

Another PNM expense covered, he said, was a $35.5 million debt owed to maxi taxi owners following a promise to them in 2005 when then Works and Transport minister Colm Imbert encouraged them to invest in 25-seater buses instead of 12-seater maxi taxis with the promise of a tax and VAT rebate. Until last week, after almost a decade, Maharaj said maxi taxi owners were waiting for the rebates, which the PNM had ignored.

The debate on the bill was halted after there were calls by Opposition and Independent Senators, including Dr Dhanayshar Mahabir, called for it to be sent to a special select committee because of the need for further consultation.

PNM Senator Avinash Singh said the bill was poorly drafted and needed more attention while Independent Senator Dr Kryaan Singh said it made very little or no provision to improve the lot of disabled persons who can drive their own cars. However, they all agreed the bill was needed.

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Re: Build that rail.
« Reply #164 on: July 23, 2015, 01:56:11 AM »
Rowley’s rapid rail to nowhere
By Ria Taitt (Express).


The message behind the second instalment of the “No Rowley” campaign is that People’s National Movement (PNM) leader Dr Keith Rowley is on a Rapid Railway to “nowhere”.

And to illustrate the point, Communications Minister Vasant Bharath yesterday said the United National Congress (UNC) chose as the venue the yard of The Museum of the City of Port of Spain, at South Quay, because it wanted to “interject a little humour” as well as “reinforce the seriousness of the situation” with respect to the Rapid Rail project.

A life-size cardboard image of a smiling Keith Rowley was placed inside and another at the back of the old-model train in the yard of the museum.

Journalists were also given a Thomas and Friends train and a mock ticket with Rowley’s picture next to a train bearing the balisier emblem on which the words “$60 billion train ticket to destination nowhere” are printed.

Asked about the appropriateness of a political party holding a news conference on State property to deliver a campaign message, and whether the others parties would be given similar access, Bharath said: “Absolutely, once they get permission.

“As you know, many public (political) meetings are held in schools across Trinidad and Tobago, so that is not an issue as far as we are concerned,” Bharath said.

The Communications Minister, who was speaking in his capa­city as UNC campaign spokesman, was joined by UNC campaign manager Rodney Charles as he focused on the cost of the Rapid Rail project, which he put at $60 ­billion.

Exposing wastefulness

“Today we are going to expose the wastefulness and disregard for taxpayers’ money that Keith Rowley will show if elected as Prime Minister... Because Keith Rowley wants to build a vanity rail project that Trinidad and Tobago does not need and cannot afford. Far from serving the interests of the public, it is a one-man exercise in ego and vanity. As an unsuitable leader, with a poor record of service and delivery, this,” he said, pointing to the old train in the yard.

To criticisms of the campaign, Bharath said the UNC was aware of the “possible repercussions of how people may perceive what we are doing. But we are hopeful that if we stick to our position that we are not personally attacking Dr Rowley but are articulating a position based on the comments of his own colleagues”.

Bharath said he valued and respected the opinion by Dr Merle Hodge, but that did not mean he had to agree with her or others.

“We believe that what we are doing is the right thing,” he said.

Hodge, in a letter to the editor, described the campaign as a “descent into the muck of personal vilification”.

Bharath stated Ernie Ross and Ross Advertising were also free to make the statement they did (in which the company distanced itself from the campaign).


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« Reply #165 on: July 23, 2015, 05:26:46 AM »
Well boy.
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« Reply #166 on: July 23, 2015, 06:26:03 AM »
Well boy.

dem people too jokey


..........wonder when all this done.........if Rowley win.....he could find d strength to be the "bigger man" , yuh how easy it is for trinis to take d low road
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I pity the fool....

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« Reply #167 on: July 23, 2015, 01:07:53 PM »

Ah cyah wait to see this happen

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« Reply #168 on: July 23, 2015, 02:22:28 PM »
Well boy.

dem people too jokey


..........wonder when all this done.........if Rowley win.....he could find d strength to be the "bigger man" , yuh how easy it is for trinis to take d low road

I studying.

Two big man in an office...and plan out this.

"Wha we could do for the norowley site boy? I feel we could do with something appealing to children."
"AH! I know! We go pappy show Rowley with one ah dem old cartoon ting with the train....wha it name again? De one with the big moon faces and ting!"

"Arhmmmm....Ahrmm..it on the tip of my tongue yuh know...just now...leh me google it..."

Kifkifkifkifkif.


Steups. Dis is the kind of foolishness dat does get me vex when I get my payslip and I see what they taking for PAYE.
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« Reply #169 on: July 23, 2015, 07:42:48 PM »
But hear nah.  I see the pic yesterday and saying to myself, nah ppl cyar be so idle.....now I seeing is Vasant and Rodney Charles personally gone down by the musuem to set this up??!! WTF!!!!.....

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« Reply #170 on: July 23, 2015, 08:34:47 PM »
Rowley’s rapid rail to nowhere
By Ria Taitt (Express).


The message behind the second instalment of the “No Rowley” campaign is that People’s National Movement (PNM) leader Dr Keith Rowley is on a Rapid Railway to “nowhere”.

And to illustrate the point, Communications Minister Vasant Bharath yesterday said the United National Congress (UNC) chose as the venue the yard of The Museum of the City of Port of Spain, at South Quay, because it wanted to “interject a little humour” as well as “reinforce the seriousness of the situation” with respect to the Rapid Rail project.

A life-size cardboard image of a smiling Keith Rowley was placed inside and another at the back of the old-model train in the yard of the museum.

Journalists were also given a Thomas and Friends train and a mock ticket with Rowley’s picture next to a train bearing the balisier emblem on which the words “$60 billion train ticket to destination nowhere” are printed.

Asked about the appropriateness of a political party holding a news conference on State property to deliver a campaign message, and whether the others parties would be given similar access, Bharath said: “Absolutely, once they get permission.

“As you know, many public (political) meetings are held in schools across Trinidad and Tobago, so that is not an issue as far as we are concerned,” Bharath said.

The Communications Minister, who was speaking in his capa­city as UNC campaign spokesman, was joined by UNC campaign manager Rodney Charles as he focused on the cost of the Rapid Rail project, which he put at $60 ­billion.

Exposing wastefulness

“Today we are going to expose the wastefulness and disregard for taxpayers’ money that Keith Rowley will show if elected as Prime Minister... Because Keith Rowley wants to build a vanity rail project that Trinidad and Tobago does not need and cannot afford. Far from serving the interests of the public, it is a one-man exercise in ego and vanity. As an unsuitable leader, with a poor record of service and delivery, this,” he said, pointing to the old train in the yard.

To criticisms of the campaign, Bharath said the UNC was aware of the “possible repercussions of how people may perceive what we are doing. But we are hopeful that if we stick to our position that we are not personally attacking Dr Rowley but are articulating a position based on the comments of his own colleagues”.

Bharath said he valued and respected the opinion by Dr Merle Hodge, but that did not mean he had to agree with her or others.

“We believe that what we are doing is the right thing,” he said.

Hodge, in a letter to the editor, described the campaign as a “descent into the muck of personal vilification”.

Bharath stated Ernie Ross and Ross Advertising were also free to make the statement they did (in which the company distanced itself from the campaign).




i don't know where some trinis sense of humor gone but i find that cut out real funny... what happen to the days of picong, everyone getting on like sorf candle now because real money involved in TT...

lighten up people and stop being so damn sour... if you giving talk, learn to take it as well..


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« Reply #171 on: July 23, 2015, 08:55:18 PM »
so i just heard Rowley intend to raise VAT or borrow the money to build the rail.. interesting, how come no one bothered to mention that..

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« Reply #172 on: July 24, 2015, 05:39:51 AM »
Maybe because I am in foreign, I don't see the the big deal about the attacks on Rowley. That is how politics going on now with the internet and heavy media sponsorship by parties with big money. You get what you pay for. All those who talking about the integrity are jokers and hypocrits. Political campaigns have no morals especially when it coming down to the wire. All the winners do is issue a hypocritical apology for going a bit overboard for  mischaracterisation, and simply move on. Integrity commissions and campaign finance are a waste of time, until people get hurt or the financiers go belly up. I just hope when when Rowley attack "she kyat", they don't scream he is a bully. These things goes both ways. If Rowley make mischaracterisations, he should expect blows.
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« Reply #173 on: July 24, 2015, 05:45:58 AM »
so i just heard Rowley intend to raise VAT or borrow the money to build the rail.. interesting, how come no one bothered to mention that..

I would not be surprised that TAXES will be raised for a capital project like that. Don't bs the people. Just tell them straight. But it will benefit the country in the long run. We have very little space to build highways.

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« Reply #174 on: July 24, 2015, 10:34:35 AM »
Maybe because I am in foreign, I don't see the the big deal about the attacks on Rowley. That is how politics going on now with the internet and heavy media sponsorship by parties with big money. You get what you pay for. All those who talking about the integrity are jokers and hypocrits. Political campaigns have no morals especially when it coming down to the wire. All the winners do is issue a hypocritical apology for going a bit overboard for  mischaracterisation, and simply move on. Integrity commissions and campaign finance are a waste of time, until people get hurt or the financiers go belly up. I just hope when when Rowley attack "she kyat", they don't scream he is a bully. These things goes both ways. If Rowley make mischaracterisations, he should expect blows.

exactly.. it works both ways! bully and against 'women' will be the rally call.

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« Reply #175 on: July 24, 2015, 11:35:13 AM »
Maybe because I am in foreign, I don't see the the big deal about the attacks on Rowley. That is how politics going on now with the internet and heavy media sponsorship by parties with big money. You get what you pay for. All those who talking about the integrity are jokers and hypocrits. Political campaigns have no morals especially when it coming down to the wire. All the winners do is issue a hypocritical apology for going a bit overboard for  mischaracterisation, and simply move on. Integrity commissions and campaign finance are a waste of time, until people get hurt or the financiers go belly up. I just hope when when Rowley attack "she kyat", they don't scream he is a bully. These things goes both ways. If Rowley make mischaracterisations, he should expect blows.

exactly.. it works both ways! bully and against 'women' will be the rally call.

Exactly brother... Don't throw stone in glass house.. If the Madame pm attack Rowley, she can also be attacked in the same manner and no one should complain about anything..

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« Reply #176 on: August 08, 2015, 02:00:52 AM »
Bus transit system, Tarouba revamp
By Andre Bagoo (Newsday)


A BUS RAPID transit system will be introduced to tackle growing levels of traffic, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar said yesterday as she unveiled the People’s Partnership (PP) manifesto for the September 7 general election.

The 112-page document states several solutions have been assessed.

It states:

1) Transit hubs will be constructed in Chaguanas, Arima and St Augustine;

2) Properly rationalised, dedicated school bus transportation will be instituted;

3) Dedicated bus services for industrial estate workers will be developed;

4) Two dedicated, predictable bus rapid transit systems from north to south and east to west will be established. Several considerations have been taken into account, namely (1) rationalisation of what exists; (2) management of traffic; (3) capacity for effectiveness; (4) cost-effectiveness; and (5) sustainability.

“This plan, together with an opening up of the highway system and a series of improved connector roads will allow us to begin to address: the huge increase in vehicle ownership with convenient and adequate parking provisions; the very costly burden of high fuel subsidies, which, with enlightened alternative solutions, can be addressed; a dedicated initiative to make a significant dent in high air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions; a more efficient and reliable public transport system that can get citizens from home to another place and back regardless of the nature of the trip – work, school or recreation.

Even vehicle owners and users need some reassurance of alternative, efficient transportation options; and a practical approach to rationalise and integrate PH taxis into a holistic, integrated system of easy access and safe, reliable transportation.

In remarks made at the manifesto launch held at the Aranjuez North Secondary School, Boundary Extension Road, San Juan, Persad-Bissessar noted the objection has never been to a mass transit system but rather the large expense proposed for the PNM’s rapid rail project.

Another aspect of the manifesto involves plans for the long-delayed, billion-dollar Tarouba stadium project which has straddled two Parliaments.

“We will transform the Tarouba facility into the Tarouba Sports Academy,” the document states.

“This can support activities at the nearby aquatic centre and the cycling velodrome in Couva. The establishment of this academy can also be linked with activities at the Ato Boldon Stadium where running tracks will be upgraded and with the University of Trinidad and Tobago (UTT), which could provide academic input on the sports academy.

This will encourage our elite athletes to remain here and be homegrown while achieving similar benefits that may have been afforded by going abroad. This can also be a cost-benefiting factor, allowing more athletes opportunities.” A section of the manifesto handles renewable energy and a series of measures to encourage it, including solar-powered schools, communities centres and street-lighting.

AN INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY Later on, it was outlined that steps will be taken to ensure that the Judiciary will become independent of the financing mechanisms of the State and will fund itself. The manifesto document states that within its first 100 days a PP government will, “initiate action to establish a financially independent Judiciary.” Of the criminal justice system generally, the coalition states it will, “engage the judiciary to come up with a workable plan to significantly reduce the backlog of cases before the courts with targets and timelines.” Elsewhere in the document, a series of other measures are proposed to bring about a “zero-tolerance approach” to crime.

“There is not single solution or quick fix as the impetus for deviant behaviour has both economic and social dimensions and originates from within and outside our country,” the document states. “As such, neither the government nor the police can fight crime alone.

For a safer Trinidad and Tobago we also need a more efficient criminal justice system and the support of all social partners and we must empower all Trinidadians and Tobagonians to be part of the solution.” The coalition proposes to increase community policing and to “strengthen surveillance and control of our territorial borders to stem the illegal entry of goods and people.”

Other measures include:

• Rehabilitation of offenders through a first offenders programme that prevents recidivism and offers more concentrated education and training inside prison to bridge to transitional opportunities in the market.

• Reduction in delays in the determination of court matters by freeing up the backlog and by establishing specialised courts. This will include redesigning of the case management system.

• Establishing specialised courts to address issues such as family matters and juvenile matters.

• Applying technology to the judicial system, such as the video conferencing of remand hearings and digital audio recording to supplement transcription.

• Introducing parole and community supervision that addresses the risks and needs of each offender and ensures that inmates who pose the greatest threats to public safety are effectively managed.

• Providing support to help newly released inmates to transition.

• Providing greater support for former inmates who genuinely wish to renounce their gang membership and assume a law-abiding lifestyle.

• Developing a programme for incarcerated gang members that encourages them to renounce their gang membership.

• Developing a programme that links imprisonment with agricultural production.

The Coast Guard facilities and community comfort patrols are to be strengthened, though no details are given. Persad-Bissessar announced that on Monday the coalition would conduct an exercise dubbed, “Manifesto Monday” which will see constituencies meet over these plans which were drawn up based on feedback from citizens. She said all 41 of the PP’s candidates will be unveiled on August 16 and she would not be “jumbied” to unveil them before time.

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« Reply #177 on: August 08, 2015, 08:00:37 AM »
Don't agree with her, I believe a rapid rail is necessary ... It should be considered

They should figure out a way to do it..

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« Reply #178 on: August 09, 2015, 04:24:38 AM »
Don't agree with her, I believe a rapid rail is necessary ... It should be considered

They should figure out a way to do it..
now for sure you will never get that rail because rowley certainly will not win this election with this sexual harassment charge hanging over his head. moonilal and kamla would milk this cow for every last drop of milk and i fear that the good doctor would not recover from the latest development, and it serves him right. if you want the highest office you must act the part. what a dumbell.

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« Reply #179 on: August 09, 2015, 06:52:39 AM »
Don't agree with her, I believe a rapid rail is necessary ... It should be considered

They should figure out a way to do it..
now for sure you will never get that rail because rowley certainly will not win this election with this sexual harassment charge hanging over his head. moonilal and kamla would milk this cow for every last drop of milk and i fear that the good doctor would not recover from the latest development, and it serves him right. if you want the highest office you must act the part. what a dumbell.

Is it certain that he harassed the lady.

 

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