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2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« on: January 10, 2006, 07:04:50 PM »
These people hadda be out a dey farking mind yes! Look where they have Chelsea, Juve and Barca...

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Liverpool Start 2006 as World's Top Club
 
The Merseyside Reds can kick of the New Year knowing that despite their controversial defeat by São Paulo FC (ranked eighth) in December’s FIFA CWC Toyota Cup there’re still the cream of the crop according to the number-crunchers at the IFFHS.
 
The list of the top twenty (below) contains more than a few surprises as Villarreal is the top Spanish team, Barcelona only squeak into the lower depths of the list and Real Madrid are totally absent.  In ‘Serie A’ terms Inter are in second place –  two places above San Siro nemesis AC Milan, whereas Juventus are sandwiched between French outfits Auxerre and Monaco in an ignoble 16th spot.

Looking at the representatives of the EPL, the ranking seems rather topsy-turvy with Mourinho’s bulldozing Chelsea stuck at unlucky thirteen below both Arsenal (9th) and Man U (10th).  The ranking does follow strict statistical criteria, but is there anybody out there who agrees with this list?  If you don’t, what would be your list and which criteria would you personally prioritise?

World Club Ranking 2005:

1. Liverpool (ENG) 317 points
2. Inter (ITA)307
3. Bayern Munich (GER) 281
4. AC Milan (ITA) 263
5. CSKA Moscow (RUS) 254
6. PSV Eindhoven (HOL) 249
7. Olympique Lyon (FRA) 246
8. São Paulo (BRA) 246
9. Arsenal (ENG) 245
10. Manchester United (ENG) 240
11. Villarreal (SP) 237
12. Boca Juniors (ARG) 236
13. Chelsea (ENG) 229
14. AZ Alkmaar (HOL) 225
15. Monaco (FRA) 221
16. Juventus (ITA) 219
17. Auxerre (FRA) 209
18. Barcelona (ESP) 207
19. Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 201
20. Real Betis (SP) 195

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2006, 07:08:09 PM »
Dis how they justify they madness:

                                How the Club World Ranking is made  
   
  The World Club Ranking was started monthly since January 1st, 1991 and the information is globally distributed early in the following month. This ranking takes into consideration the results of twelve months of continental and intercontinental competitions, national league matches (including play-offs) and the national cup. In those countries having several national cup competitions, only the one organised by the national federation is included. Since the cup competition systems are diverse at the preliminary stage level, we assign only the points won in eight-finals, quarter-finals, semi-finals and the final. The points are assigned based upon a rating system of the level of performance of each national league. In the case of matches decided by penalty-kicks, each team receives half of the points in contention.
  All national leagues are rated at four levels based upon performance. In this grouping, each country (where the club plays) is assigned a number indicating the performance level of each national league. Clubs in the highest level leagues receive 4 points for each match won, 2 for a draw and 0 for a defeat. Level 2 is assigned 3 pts. (win), 1.5 (draw) and 0 (lost), and so on with the next lower levels. The same system applies for the play-off matches.

  In the continental competitions, all clubs receive the same number of points at all stages regardless of the performance level of their leagues. In the case of draws each team receives 50% of the points in dispute and 0 points for a lost match. The points are distributed equally to teams in matches decided by penalty-kicks. All Asia, Africa and CONCACAF continental competitions have the same point-assignment system: 8 points for a win, 4 for a draw; in the preliminary tournament phases for The Caribbean and Oceania zones, only 4 and 2 points are assigned for win and draw. In the South American competitions the clubs receive 12 points for a win, 6 for a draw; and in the European 14 and 7 points, respectively. Competitions between two continents are evaluated depending upon their importance. In the FIFA World Club Cup, the awarding system for wins and draws is determined by averaging the number of points assigned for wins and draws in each of the other continental competitions.

  Those competitions not organized by a continental confederation, or any intercontinental events not recognized by FIFA, are not taken into consideration for the World Club Ranking. Any competition cancelled before completion alters the point system. In order to equalise the chances of South American and European clubs we do not consider the result of previous matches already played in said tournament.

  The World Club Ranking is a precise classification showing the real level of the clubs free of any subjective influence. It is the result of a profound analysis that allows us to fairly report the level of international performance for each country.
 


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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2006, 07:21:27 PM »
That is a proper list
cuz they take into consideration the  Champions League Tournament mainly
and Barca and Juve last win the cup a looong time ago........
so...i eh see nun wrong wit dis list

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2006, 07:23:56 PM »
That is a proper list
cuz they take into consideration the  Champions League Tournament mainly
and Barca and Juve last win the cup a looong time ago........
so...i eh see nun wrong wit dis list

I know u wouldn't find nutten wrong with it, being that u are a Inter fan. So u really think Boca Juniors were a better club than Chelsea, Juve and Barca in 2005?
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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2006, 07:28:44 PM »
MAYBE BOCA ARE NOT AS GOOD AS CHELSEA IN REAL
BUT THE MAIN FACTOR IS IF THEY WERE BETTER THAN CHELSEA ON PAPER
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE
MORE TITLE WINS = MORE POINTS

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2006, 07:32:39 PM »
MAYBE BOCA ARE NOT AS GOOD AS CHELSEA IN REAL
BUT THE MAIN FACTOR IS IF THEY WERE BETTER THAN CHELSEA ON PAPER
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE
MORE TITLE WINS = MORE POINTS

Horse, Liverpool win 1 title last year! whatever way u look at it, this system is ass-ness. On paper.....
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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2006, 09:01:52 PM »
ah eh see W-connection on that list ;)

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2006, 09:12:45 PM »
MAYBE BOCA ARE NOT AS GOOD AS CHELSEA IN REAL
BUT THE MAIN FACTOR IS IF THEY WERE BETTER THAN CHELSEA ON PAPER
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE
MORE TITLE WINS = MORE POINTS
d game doh play on paper. it's played on the field for 90 minutes.

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2006, 09:19:51 PM »
Did Inter win anything last year?

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2006, 10:10:50 AM »
ah eh see W-connection on that list ;)

North East Stars eh dey either  ;D

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2006, 12:21:54 PM »
there was a thread on the IFFHS rankings earlier.

because these rankings only use results and not other factors (e.g. player or coaching changes, strength of league or opposition), the rankings are probably not good predictors of a result. their value is assessing relative historical performance - hence the International Federation of History and Statistics.

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 04:27:54 PM »
MAYBE BOCA ARE NOT AS GOOD AS CHELSEA IN REAL
BUT THE MAIN FACTOR IS IF THEY WERE BETTER THAN CHELSEA ON PAPER
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE
MORE TITLE WINS = MORE POINTS
d game doh play on paper. it's played on the field for 90 minutes.

LIKE U CAH COMPREHEND TO WELL
SO DE LIST OF RANKINGS IS NOT PAPER??
U DOH TINK DEY GET DERE RANKINGS FROM STATS?!??!?!
WHICH IS ON A PIECE OF PAPER
RIGHT NUFF SAID

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006, 04:47:12 PM »
Barcelona cannot possibly be 18th they mad or what

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 04:54:47 PM »
The fact that Man Boo even make dis list renders this ranking list asinine!  ;D
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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 06:11:10 PM »
The fact that Man Boo even make dis list renders this ranking list asinine!  ;D

Add ARSEnal to that list too  :devil:!

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Re: 2005 World Club Rankings..Madness!!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2006, 06:33:09 PM »
Did Inter win anything last year?

Inter won the Coppa Italia last season and the Italian Supercup at the beginning of this season.

More importantly (at least for a statstical list like this), they only lost 7 games between May 2004 and the end of 2005 in all competition (2 in serie a last season, 2 in the champs league and 3 in serie a so far this season).
Prior to their first defeat last season, against Milan in week 26 of the serie A season, they hadn't been beaten (in any competition) for more than 9 months.

Forza Inter!


 

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