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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1950 on: April 21, 2013, 12:53:50 PM »
Cannot agree with a Motion of No Confidence at this point.  All it will serve to do is rally the government's die hard base ointo showing their support.

It will fail and the desired effect and the PNM would be exactly where they started.

Keep the issues in the public domain, put unlentless pressure and hold up on a Motion of No Confidence.

Anil for sure is NOT going to leave the coalition and the rest(read that as the COP), even when posturing have always stayed put.

I see it as more advantageous in the long run to let them be.

The time will come to ask them the hard questions on why they stayed etc.   

2 years is a very long time in politics.  Even with defections etc. they will still hold at the very least 22 seats, enough to hold unto power.
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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1951 on: April 21, 2013, 01:46:46 PM »
Cannot agree with a Motion of No Confidence at this point.  All it will serve to do is rally the government's die hard base ointo showing their support.

It will fail and the desired effect and the PNM would be exactly where they started.

Keep the issues in the public domain, put unlentless pressure and hold up on a Motion of No Confidence.

Anil for sure is NOT going to leave the coalition and the rest(read that as the COP), even when posturing have always stayed put.

I see it as more advantageous in the long run to let them be.

The time will come to ask them the hard questions on why they stayed etc.   

2 years is a very long time in politics.  Even with defections etc. they will still hold at the very least 22 seats, enough to hold unto power.

How would it be "more advantageous in the long run"... that's what I'm having a hard time understanding.  Your (and Asylumseeker's) position seems to be that if the motion of no confidence fails that "hard questions" can't be asked going forward.  You talk about a failed motion "rally[ing] the government's base"... more than it already "rallied"?  And rallying that base would hurt the Opposition, how? Is not like that "base" was ever going to support the Opposition... and "base" doh matter in Parliamentary voting.

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« Reply #1952 on: April 21, 2013, 02:23:51 PM »
As I said. 2 years is a long time in politics, we already had one failed No Confidence Motion.   Shooting off all your bullets before the war has been declared is bad business.  Now Rowley and his PNM Executive may see things the way you do, but he had already scheduled a debate on Private Members Day this coming Friday to discuss NOT Jack but the PM's inability and reticence to deal with him.

In a mere matter of months Kamla defeated Panday and Manning...soundly.  Timing is essential, ask all the hard questions now and moving forward, but as we have seen the COP will talk a good talk but being Ministers and having the perks is a powerful motivating factor for them to remain in a government that remains strong despite all their mis-steps and malfeasance.

It would be prudent to await any potential fall out from this Jack bachannal too, and then capitalize on that.   

They have shown a propensity to go after each others throats in the past...as public discontent grows, they will have a go at each other to fulfil the lust for power.  That would be the ideal opportunity to call for that No Confidence Motion.

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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1953 on: April 21, 2013, 03:00:39 PM »
Kamla eh letting go of office before time. Fact.

Best thing to do is let this play out to its end. Remind yes....but let them continue to try to plug the holes in the ship.
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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1954 on: April 21, 2013, 03:14:08 PM »
And exactly why is Kamla stunned? Does she not do a background check on the ministers?
Jack was one of the main financers of the PP's election campaign and they had a good idea where the money came from but did not care, getting into power by hook or crook was all that mattered!

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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1955 on: April 21, 2013, 03:54:47 PM »
Golda Lee Bruce  (@goldalee) tweeted at 5:35 PM on Sun, Apr 21, 2013:
Jack Warner leaves the meeting at the Prime Minister's residence. Does not speak to the media. @CNC3TV
(https://twitter.com/goldalee/status/326086882524028929)

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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1956 on: April 21, 2013, 04:03:00 PM »
Golda Lee Bruce  (@goldalee) tweeted at 5:35 PM on Sun, Apr 21, 2013:
Jack Warner leaves the meeting at the Prime Minister's residence. Does not speak to the media. @CNC3TV
(https://twitter.com/goldalee/status/326086882524028929)



Cat get this tie tongue. 
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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1957 on: April 21, 2013, 04:07:05 PM »
Golda Lee Bruce  (@goldalee) tweeted at 5:35 PM on Sun, Apr 21, 2013:
Jack Warner leaves the meeting at the Prime Minister's residence. Does not speak to the media. @CNC3TV
(https://twitter.com/goldalee/status/326086882524028929)



Cat get this tie tongue. 

Not really.

The meeting was to organise for Kams Birthday lime tomorrow.
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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1958 on: April 21, 2013, 04:18:45 PM »
Golda Lee Bruce  (@goldalee) tweeted at 5:35 PM on Sun, Apr 21, 2013:
Jack Warner leaves the meeting at the Prime Minister's residence. Does not speak to the media. @CNC3TV
(https://twitter.com/goldalee/status/326086882524028929)



Cat get this tie tongue. 

Not really.

The meeting was to organise for Kams Birthday lime tomorrow.

He gone to buy d gift.
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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1959 on: April 21, 2013, 04:49:26 PM »
I feel saddened for my friends in T and T because your PM is going to be told what to do by foreigners. (Andrew Jennings)
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« Reply #1960 on: April 21, 2013, 04:54:17 PM »
I feel saddened for my friends in T and T because your PM is going to be told what to do by foreigners. (Andrew Jennings)

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« Reply #1961 on: April 21, 2013, 05:00:47 PM »
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« Reply #1962 on: April 21, 2013, 05:19:10 PM »
Football lessons for politics
By Sunity Maharaj (T&T Express)


While the big men at Concacaf get to it, we in Trinidad and Tobago have the much more daunting task of establishing what role FIFA and FIFA-influenced funds have played in the politics and government of this country.

Cornered by the explosive Concacaf report, on what basis will the United National Congress (UNC), its associates and their Government now separate themselves from Jack Warner given the extent to which they have been compromised by their dependence on him?

The resources that Warner brought to the UNC have everything to do, not only with his own spectacular rise in the UNC, but with the UNCís fortunes, especially since it lost control of the government in 2001.

That was the year President Arthur NR Robinson bad-mindedly broke the 18-18 electoral tie by awarding the government to the Peopleís National Movement notwithstanding the larger number of votes won by the incumbent UNC.

History may eventually have another say, but for those of us who have lived through the period since, it remains in question whether the UNC would even exist today without Jack Warner.

Rattled by rift and demoralised by drift after 2001, the party that had won two successive general elections could hardly muster a decent showing in the 2003 local government elections, being driven back to the innermost core of its core constituencies in central and south Trinidad.

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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1963 on: April 21, 2013, 05:22:20 PM »
PM to address the media shortly...

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Re: Jack dimisses Concacaf probe PM STUNNED
« Reply #1964 on: April 21, 2013, 05:22:42 PM »

And they were palancing for many years with CONCACAF money!
The JW & Blaze of soca have nothing on them!  :devil:
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Re: $100m & MORE MISSING (Sunday Express)
« Reply #1966 on: April 21, 2013, 05:34:31 PM »

Just seeing this chart and it is so spot on!  :D
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« Reply #1967 on: April 21, 2013, 05:51:52 PM »

And they were palancing for many years with CONCACAF money!
The JW & Blaze of soca have nothing on them!  :devil:

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« Reply #1968 on: April 21, 2013, 05:52:55 PM »
Just heard on CNC3 that Warner tendered his resignation...Kamla to address the nation now.
 Emmanuel George to be interim MoNS.
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« Reply #1969 on: April 21, 2013, 05:55:03 PM »
So the blogs saying  Immanuel George to act as Min of Nat Sec.

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« Reply #1970 on: April 21, 2013, 06:00:03 PM »
Best news I get for the past two weeks concerning Warner.   :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
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« Reply #1971 on: April 21, 2013, 06:07:14 PM »
Best news I get for the past two weeks concerning Warner.   :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:

When he get lock up then I will be  :wavetowel:
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« Reply #1972 on: April 21, 2013, 06:12:08 PM »
Best news I get for the past two weeks concerning Warner.   :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:

When he get lock up then I will be  :wavetowel:

You right but I have to take this as a slight moral victory.  I cant wait so long for him to get locked up nah.  I go be an old man before Warner get to do time.
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« Reply #1973 on: April 21, 2013, 06:16:03 PM »
I'm just going and stock up on popcorn......imagine Volney and Jack on the back bench.....ooooohhh lawdie......
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« Reply #1974 on: April 21, 2013, 06:24:17 PM »
I'm just going and stock up on popcorn......imagine Volney and Jack on the back bench.....ooooohhh lawdie......

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Best news I get for the past two weeks concerning Warner.   :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:

When he get lock up then I will be  :wavetowel:

You right but I have to take this as a slight moral victory.  I cant wait so long for him to get locked up nah.  I go be an old man before Warner get to do time.

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« Reply #1975 on: April 21, 2013, 06:30:35 PM »
Karen Ache whey yuh song? Uncle Jack

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« Reply #1976 on: April 21, 2013, 06:32:32 PM »
I'm just going and stock up on popcorn......imagine Volney and Jack on the back bench.....ooooohhh lawdie......

 :rotfl:
Best news I get for the past two weeks concerning Warner.   :applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:

When he get lock up then I will be  :wavetowel:

You right but I have to take this as a slight moral victory.  I cant wait so long for him to get locked up nah.  I go be an old man before Warner get to do time.

D LONGEST ROPE HV AN END. 3 yrs ago when these people was unleash on us u did not tink it would come. U will live 2 c it.

Remember was around the same time when we here on the forum was trying to figure out how we could bring an end to the rule ?
The TTFF rule come and change up...now the ringleader starting to show chinks in the armour.  The longest rope really have an end.
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« Reply #1977 on: April 21, 2013, 06:40:12 PM »
Ah hear de scandal now start because if jack going dong everybody comin wid him....

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« Reply #1978 on: April 21, 2013, 06:51:21 PM »
Ah hear de scandal now start because if jack going dong everybody comin wid him....

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« Reply #1979 on: April 21, 2013, 06:57:01 PM »
I could just imagine the PP spin doctors hard at work trying to come up with the best excuse/reason for Jack's resignation. 

It would sound something like... "Mr. Warner is a highly respected individual and has the highest regard for the image of this beloved country of ours.  It is in this regard that he chose to resign from cabinet to spare the country and our beloved Prime Minister any attempt by foreign and local entities any undue embarrassment.  Mr. Warner has decided to put self first."  ::)
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