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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2670 on: July 13, 2019, 12:10:19 AM »
Warner slams lawsuit as an attempt to ‘unjustly vilify’ him.
By Jada Loutoo (Newsday).


A defiant Jack Warner, former FIFA vice president, says the latest salvo of litigation by the North American Soccer Confederation, of which he was president, was a “deliberate” and “orchestrated attempt” to “unjustly vilify” him.

In a statement yesterday, Warner responded to a US judge’s order for him to pay punitive damages to Concacaf.

On Tuesday, US District Judge William c**tz ordered Warner to pay US$79 million in damages in a 2017 civil action which accused him of embezzling tens of millions of dollars.

In a statement after the court awarded the sum, Concacaf said it intended to pursue all available avenues to enforce the judgment in any jurisdiction where it had reason to believe Warner had assets.

c**tz’s written ruling was issued in the federal court in Brooklyn, New York, after Warner failed to contest the claim.

Concacaf’s lawsuit mirrored allegations in the US indictment that resulted in charges against several top football officials and its case against Warner, and a former Concacaf general secretary Chuck Blazer accused the two of making a fortune through embezzlement – allegations that mirror those in a US criminal investigation that has resulted in charges against several top football officials. The suit accused the pair of negotiating bribes and kickbacks in connection with lucrative broadcasting rights for tournaments including Concacaf’s Gold Cup championship.

However, Warner, in his statement, said the confederation’s lawsuit was “deliberately intended by a biased and hostile US-influence Concacaf executive to promote a narrow agenda and to place the blame for its non-performance in the last seven years, on the shoulders of the previous Concacaf executive.”

He categorically denied being liable for any of the sums which form part of the default judgments against him, adding “and there is absolutely no account that he received these moneys.”

The statement said Concacaf did receive money, though not in the amounts stated in the US default judgments.

“These moneys received by Concacaf and the expenditure spans a period of over 21 years. These moneys were spent throughout the Concacaf region consisting of some 36 separate countries. They were used to build facilities, finance the Gold Cup in the Concacaf region, the World Cup finals, the World Cup payoffs, youth tournaments and women’s football among the various countries of Concacaf, and to finance the operations of the Concacaf secretariat and administration in all 36 countries, as well as to meet recurrent expenditure,” the five-page statement said.

The statement also pointed out that the US extradition proceedings – which he is currently fighting – and the civil lawsuits in the US courts were initiated after the US and Britain lost their bids to host the 2022 World Cup, given instead to Qatar and Russia.

“This was part of the continued efforts of FIFA to diversify and strengthen the participation in football on the African continent and also to give Russia an opportunity to participate. Jack Warner, therefore, cannot be liable for all the moneys spent on Concacaf.”

The statement further said the distribution of television rights was a policy adopted by FIFA for regional bodies to have a source of income that would help them meet their recurring capital expenditure.

“No other regional body has been pursued in the way Concacaf has pursued Jack Warner. No other regional body has pursued its previous executives the way Concacaf has pursued Jack Warner relative to income from television rights or about allegations of fraud,” the statement added.

The statement also said Warner was unable to participate in any of the proceedings in the US federal courts and he was “unaware” of the matters being adjudicated.

“None of these judgments relates to any alleged activity in which Mr Warner participated in the US.

“Concacaf has chosen a court in the US to file these proceedings knowing fully well that Mr Warner is now engaged in extradition proceedings here in TT and therefore would not be in a position to attend to these matters in the US,” the statement added.

In its 2017 civil lawsuits, Concacaf said, “There can be no doubt that Warner and Blazer victimised Concacaf, stealing and defrauding it out of tens of millions of dollars in brazen acts of corruption for their own personal benefit at the expense of the entire Concacaf region.” Both men were banned from FIFA for life.

It accused the men of of negotiating bribes and kickbacks in connection with lucrative broadcasting rights for tournaments including the confederation’s Gold Cup championship. Allegations in the suit also mirrored criminal charges saying that Warner, while he and Blazer were members of FIFA’s executive committee, took a $10 million payment to influence voting on which country should host the World Cup.

Warner ‘’agreed to provide Blazer with $1 million of the $10 million bribe,’’ according to the suit.

‘’Unsurprisingly, when the FIFA Executive Committee vote was held on May 15, 2004, South Africa was selected over Morocco to host the 2010 World Cup. Warner and Blazer both voted for South Africa.’’

The civil claim also sought US$20 million in compensatory damages and unspecified punitive damages, which included the cost of the Centre of Excellence, which is also the focus of a separate claim in the local courts.

Blazer reached a plea agreement stemming from the criminal indictment for which Warner is facing extradition on allegations of racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering, allegedly committed in the US and TT, dating as far back as 1990. Warner, currently on $2.5 million bail

Blazer’s estate agreed earlier this year to pay $20 million in damages in the civil case. Blazer died in July 2017, and his estate settled with Concacaf for US$20 million, but the confederation said it was unlikely to recover the money because of unpaid taxes and another US court’s ruling that the estate was insolvent.

Warner’s sons, Daryll and Daryan, pleaded guilty to fraud charges in the criminal case in 2013 as part of a cooperation deal. They’re both out on bail with travel restrictions within the US and are awaiting sentencing.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2671 on: July 14, 2019, 06:57:38 AM »
Warner slams lawsuit as an attempt to ‘unjustly vilify’ him.



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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2672 on: July 31, 2019, 12:13:53 AM »
Warner sues TTFA for $15.7m.
By Derek Achong (Guardian).


For­mer Fi­fa vice-pres­i­dent Jack Warn­er has sued the T&T Foot­ball As­so­ci­a­tion (TTFA) over al­most $16 mil­lion in loans he claims he pro­vid­ed to the or­gan­i­sa­tion while at its helm.

In the law­suit, filed in the Port-of-Spain High Court on Mon­day, Warn­er is al­leg­ing the TTFA failed to re­pay the loans de­spite ac­knowl­edg­ing them sev­er­al times in the past.

Ac­cord­ing to his court fil­ings, which were ob­tained by Guardian Me­dia Sports, Warn­er claims he pro­vid­ed the loans, to­talling $15,761,003, over 15 years. The mon­ey was al­leged­ly used to cov­er the as­so­ci­a­tion's ex­pens­es, in­clud­ing the suc­cess­ful 2006 World Cup qual­i­fi­ca­tion cam­paign.

Warn­er claimed the TTFA nev­er dis­put­ed its debt to him, as it was re­flect­ed in its fi­nan­cial state­ments be­tween 2007 and 2012. He in­clud­ed cor­re­spon­dence from for­mer TTFA pres­i­dent Ray­mond Tim Kee, who wrote to him to ac­knowl­edge the debt and as­sured him it would be cleared af­ter the as­so­ci­a­tion's fi­nan­cial po­si­tion im­proved.

While Warn­er claimed he at­tempt­ed to get Tim Kee to com­mit to a pay­ment plan in 2015, no as­sur­ances were giv­en. How­ev­er, the debt was even­tu­al­ly writ­ten off in the as­so­ci­a­tion's 2015 fi­nan­cial state­ments, as it was claimed the debt was statute-barred and it had no oblig­a­tion to pay.

"These ac­counts were pub­lished af­ter the date of both let­ters from pres­i­dent Ray­mond Tim Kee, who had on two sep­a­rate oc­ca­sions ac­knowl­edged the debt to the claimant...At no time did the claimant in­form the de­fen­dant that they were no longer un­der an oblig­a­tion to re­pay the debt," Warn­er's doc­u­ments stat­ed.

Through the law­suit, Warn­er is seek­ing re­pay­ment of the mon­ey ad­vanced, plus in­ter­est cal­cu­lat­ed us­ing a prime com­mer­cial lend­ing rate.

In the event Warn­er even­tu­al­ly suc­ceeds in his law­suit it would put the as­so­ci­a­tion in an even more pre­car­i­ous fi­nan­cial po­si­tion, as over the past few years it has been swamped by le­gal dis­putes from na­tion­al play­ers and for­mer tech­ni­cal staff.

Warn­er is no stranger to the courts, as he is cur­rent­ly fight­ing his ex­tra­di­tion to the Unit­ed States to face charges aris­ing out of a US De­part­ment of Jus­tice in­ves­ti­ga­tion in­to cor­rup­tion in FI­FA.

Last month, US Dis­trict Court Judge William c**tz en­tered a de­fault judge­ment against Warn­er in a US$20 mil­lion em­bez­zle­ment case which CON­CA­CAF brought against him and for­mer ex­ec­u­tive Chuck Blaz­er. c**tz's de­ci­sion was based on the fact that Warn­er had failed to reg­is­ter an ap­pear­ance in the case through an at­tor­ney.

CON­CA­CAF has al­so brought a US$37.8 mil­lion law­suit against Warn­er, his wife, ac­coun­tant and two com­pa­nies over own­er­ship of the Dr Joao Have­lange Cen­tre of Ex­cel­lence in Ma­coya. In that case, CON­CA­CAF is al­leg­ing that de­spite pro­vid­ing the funds for the project, the fa­cil­i­ty re­mained un­der one of Warn­er's com­pa­nies.

The case is still be­ing heard by High Court Judge Robin Mo­hammed, who is cur­rent­ly mulling over an ap­pli­ca­tion to have Warn­er's wife and the com­pa­nies re­moved from the case be­fore it goes to tri­al.

Warn­er is be­ing rep­re­sent­ed by Rekha Ramjit and Alvin Pariags­ingh.

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Jack sues TTFA for $15m.
By Jada Loutoo (Newsday).


Already saddled with mounting debts from lawsuits and outstanding payments, the TT Football Association is facing another legal battle in court.

Calling for repayment of a $15 million loan is the association’s former adviser and former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner.

Warner’s attorneys on Monday filed the claim against the TTFA in the Port of Spain High Court for debt recovery and breach of contract.

Warner wants repayment of $15, 761,003, or alternatively damages, for breach of contract with interest at the prime commercial lending rate.

Representing Warner, who is also a former CONCACAF president, are attorneys Rekha Ramjit and Alvin Pariagsingh.

According to the claim, over a period of approximately 15 years, Warner made loans to the TTFA to fund activities for members, in expressed and implied terms that they would be repaid in a reasonable time.

The claim said indebtedness to Warner was never disputed and was reflected in the TTFA’s financial statements for the years 2007 to 2012.

On March 10, 2015, Warner wrote to the TTFA asking for a statement outlining the association’s indebtedness to him. By letter, on March 21, 2015, then TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee wrote to Warner, acknowledging the $15 million debt, but said the association was at the time not in a financial position to settle in part or in whole.

A pledge was given to repay Warner when the TTFA’s financial position improved. According to Warner’s claim, the acknowledgment was unequivocal and unconditional. Warner said he was also asked to consider a reduced settlement amount.

The lawsuit says Warner continued to contact Tim Kee, pressing for a confirmed date of payment, rather than a “loose and open-ended commitment” of when the TTFA’s financial position changed or would change.

Warner continued to hold discussions with the TTFA by telephone and Tim Kee again wrote to Warner on October 30, 2015, acknowledging the debt as well as other debts to companies of which Warner is a shareholder or director.

The debt recovery claim said between then and June 2017, Warner made several oral requests for the TTFA to give a firm commitment to a date by which the debt would be settled, in whole or in part.

“No commitment was forthcoming,” it said.

A pre-action protocol letter was sent on June 6, 2017, calling on the TTFA to pay the entire $15 million or make satisfactory arrangements to pay. After an extension was sought, and given, to reply on June 23, 2017, the TTFA asked Warner to disclose copies of all documentation he had on the loans. Warner’s attorneys wrote back telling the TTFA its response was laughable at best, but referred to a confirmation of the debt owed.

Warner’s attorneys also warned that should the matter go to trial, he would contended the TTFA was acting in bad faith.

The lawsuit also said the debt was even acknowledged in the TTFA’s published audited financial statements for 2014, but was withdrawn from the accounts of 2015, and explained as a “write back of a significant amount due to a related party during the year that was either statute-barred or for which the association had no obligation to pay.”

However, Warner’s claim insists that at no time was he told that the debt was being taken off the books and pointed out that Tim Kee twice acknowledged the debt. The claim also says at no time did the TTFA tell him it was no longer under an obligation to repay him.

The lawsuit also said the TTFA’s financial statements confirmed it was a going concern and, according to the claim, the assumption of its being a going concern was maintained on the basis of the commitment of FIFA and the Government to provide, as necessary, financial and managerial support to the association.

Warner claims because of the TTFA's failure to repay the debt, he has suffered loss and damage.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2673 on: July 31, 2019, 02:39:10 PM »
Jack have to be getting senile in his old age. he just opening ah can of worms dey. What about de money de Scottish FA pay him for de TTFA dat dey never receive for a game against Scotland before de '06 World Cup? what about de money de Australian FA pay him on behave of the TTFA for a school for Toco dat was never built? It have plenty plenty more, including de Center of Excellence, selling out de TTFA TV rights, over selling tickets for de '89 game etc etc.
De bottom line is Jack received monies from all over on behalf of the TTFA and dey never got de money.
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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2674 on: September 25, 2019, 04:34:35 PM »
Warner extradition appeal headed to UK Privy Council
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Former CONCACAF and FIFA vice president Jack Warner is set to take his appeal against extradition to the Privy Council after being granted leave to do.

Warner, the disgraced football official, has been battling to avoid extradition to the United States since 2015.  The ex-football official faces charges of corruption in relation to his time with world football’s governing body.     

Earlier this year, Warner failed to have the extradition appeal dismissed on procedural grounds after a three judges Court of Appeal upheld the original decision to dismiss his judicial review lawsuit, which was made in September 2017.

On Monday, however, three justices set out times frames for the procedural steps that will need to be taken if Warner is to file an appeal.  The terms included paying a fee and settling the record, before final leave can be granted for him to take his case to the court in London.  The extradition proceedings have also been halted in the magistrate's court, pending the hearing and determination of the appeal to the privy council.

Warner is challenging the process by which the extradition proceedings against him are being carried out and seeks to quash the authority to proceed (ATP) which was signed in 2016 by Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi.


Warner to fight extradition at Privy Council
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FORMER government minister Jack Warner has received conditional leave to take his challenge of the extradition proceedings against him to the Privy Council.

At a conditional leave hearing at the Court of Appeal on Monday, Justices Nolan Bereaux, Judith Jones and Charmaine Pemberton set out reduced time-frames for the procedural steps to be taken by Warner. These include paying a fee and settling the record, before final leave can be granted for him to take his case to the court in London.

They also granted a conditional stay of the committal proceedings in the magistrates’ court until the hearing and determination of the appeal in the Privy Council. In arguing for conditional leave and the stay of the proceedings, Warner’s attorney Fyard Hosein SC, contended that the State has indicated his client had a valid appeal. He also submitted that this country’s extradition treaty with the US was inconsistent with the Extradition (Commonwealth and Foreign Territories) Act.

Attorney for the State, Douglas Mendes, SC, agreed to the stay but urged Warner’s legal team to seek an expedited hearing of the appeal at the Privy Council since, according to him, the case could impact all extraditions to the US. He said the issue needed to be pronounced on since, if Warner’s arguments were correct, then no one could be extradited until the flaw was corrected.

Warner is challenging the process by which the extradition proceedings against him are being carried out and seeks to quash the authority to proceed (ATP) which was signed in 2016 by Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi. The ATP gave the magistrate the green light to begin committal proceedings. Warner also challenged the legality of the Extradition (Commonwealth and Foreign Territories) Act, and the treaty signed between this country and the US.

In June, the Court of Appeal dismissed his judicial review claim, but stayed the proceedings before Chief Magistrate Maria Busby-Earle Caddle so that Warner could seek permission to argue his case at the Privy Council.

In their ruling, Justices of Appeal Gregory Smith, Prakash Moosai and Andre des Vignes said the extradition treaty had not been shown to lack conformity with the act and there was no merit in Warner’s case that the US order, which declared that country as a declared foreign territory, was not valid.

“Therefore, the pending extradition proceedings in respect of the appellant before the magistrate are valid,” the judges held, adding that “there was no denial of justice in the issuance of the ATP by the Attorney General.”

Warner is wanted in the US for a series of fraud-related offences allegedly committed during his tenure as vice-president of world football’s governing body FIFA.

He surrendered himself to fraud squad officers on May 27, 2015, after learning of the provisional warrant.

He is on $2.5 million bail.

Also appearing for the AG are Michael Quamina and Sean Julien while attorneys Rishi Dass, Sasha Bridgemohansingh, Anil Maraj and Nyree Alphonso also represent Warner.
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« Reply #2675 on: September 25, 2019, 05:33:54 PM »
For a so-called republic. We still allow this bullshit legalese to surface every time a matter of importance needs to be determined. We are still a de facto Brit colony. Tell me I talking bull.

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« Reply #2676 on: September 26, 2019, 04:51:11 AM »
For a so-called republic. We still allow this bullshit legalese to surface every time a matter of importance needs to be determined. We are still a de facto Brit colony. Tell me I talking bull.
I have to be the first to say ,you are not talking bull,and I understand clearly your words"so called Republic".On another story,I read on a cricket site,a poster called Trinidad and Tobago a "Banana Republic".I was mad to read what he said and,replied with some epithets of a Caribbean flavour,come to think about it,he was correct and I honestly think TT is heading to failure at everything. :(

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« Reply #2677 on: September 26, 2019, 06:42:59 AM »
For a so-called republic. We still allow this bullshit legalese to surface every time a matter of importance needs to be determined. We are still a de facto Brit colony. Tell me I talking bull.
I have to be the first to say ,you are not talking bull,and I understand clearly your words"so called Republic".On another story,I read on a cricket site,a poster called Trinidad and Tobago a "Banana Republic".I was mad to read what he said and,replied with some epithets of a Caribbean flavour,come to think about it,he was correct and I honestly think TT is heading to failure at everything. :(

We will get thru this somehow or the other. 1970, 1990 and now the current situation. It is painful, but others have seen worse than us. But this reference to the privy council drives me  friggin crazy. When Eric and his followers were designing this so called republic, they really did not think this through. Tell me what the other non-republic but independent countries can't do. They can do almost everything TT can do as a republic.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2678 on: September 26, 2019, 08:56:56 AM »
And to your point, Deeks ... 'We' are also seriously considering the extradition in preference to any domestic prosecution.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2680 on: November 19, 2019, 09:05:10 PM »
Jack Warner: Home of Football is a football museum.
that thieving bastard have no shame, he should have kept his mouth shut tight. that’s something that  his worthless ass should have done 30 years ago but it took a man 20 years his junior to get it done. DJW may not have been the best choice for president of the federation but this is one thing no one could take away from him, he would go down in history for this, kudos to him for this wonderful facility.

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« Reply #2681 on: November 20, 2019, 03:14:02 PM »
T&T Football facing the exit door
Opinion Editorial, Sunshine Today


We are in trouble and regardless from which angle we view our football, it seems that there is no way out of the morass in which we have found ourselves.

No one would believe that this is a country which played at five versions of FIFA World Cups; the trip to Germany in 2006 being the most memorable one of them all.

No one remembers anymore that the Men’s U 20 team quali­fied to play in the 2009 FIFA U 20 Men’s World Cup in Egypt and Portugal before that and dis­played the red, white and black for the global village to see. Trin­idad & Tobago has hosted two FIFA World Cups – U17 Boys and U 17 Girls. Our national teams have participated in FIFA competitions all over the world with a certain amount of respect and class.

There was a time when our coaches and referees were the best in the Caribbean and they repre­sented our country at the highest levels of world and regional foot­ball. At the administrative level, our Match Commissioners were the best in CONCACAF and ev­eryone was proud to relate to our football in some way. Sponsors both at home and abroad were competing for the sponsor­ship of our national teams and the live broadcast of matches be­came the fiercest competition of all. But not today! Ent, we have a House of Football to replace all of that?

When one thinks of our foot­ball, the pride that used to swell our hearts to watch our Soca War­riors do battle against the best on the field is no more and one is beginning to wonder whether the dream of playing at the high­est level has been lost. And, if so, what do we need to do to recap­ture those glory days.

Ignominious failure

The way the national team is playing today is erasing the memory of 1965 when Trinidad & Tobago defeated Argentina in a Pan American game and if one were to map where Argentina has gone since then to where we are, a shout would emerge calling on the powers that be to shake the current crop of leaders in football and to banish them far from our football for life.

All that we have tried since the days of Ollie Camps and Richard Groden among others have been an ignominious failure.

The young residue of that peri­od learned nothing except the in-fighting and the greed for power and the failure to have their own way, seem to be crippling the al­ready challenged leadership in what used to be even for us the beautiful game.

And so, the question that one must always ask is what do we do with a football administration that lacks the creativity to man­age its expenses, pay its bills and attract quality players to give us a place in the global village on the world stage?

The question we are forced to ask is what should we do with an administration that is overseeing in 2019, the worst Trinidad and Tobago national team in the post-colonial history of our country.

For 21 consecutive games, we failed to win an International match and this is not because we were playing against teams like Brazil, England or Germany. In some cases, we played teams that were lower ranked than Trinidad & Tobago and yet failed to secure victories.

When are we going to recog­nize that this present football administration lacks the intelli­gence to chart a way forward for our team that on more than one occasion brought this country to­gether in a way politicians have ignominiously failed?

John-Williams has become fa­mous for lying repeatedly to the stakeholders in football. It has become a habit with him. No good leader should practise this kind of deception.

Sad state of affairs – T&T Football

The state of football in Trini­dad & Tobago today is sad and this is not just with the senior team, but with our junior teams and our female teams which at least under this new dispensa­tion used to win. But now they have learned the art of losing and practising it to perfection and this raises questions about our ability as a nation to play this beautiful game.

The question we have to ask is what went wrong and hope that in the answer we find a clue to fix our problem.

What is even more disappoint­ing is the fact that the Football President David John-Williams sees as one of his greatest achievements, the construction of a House of Football, when the game is at its lowest peak in our country.

He has opened it conveniently mere days before the elections for his candidacy and with a phalanx of international football officials who have conspired to keep every Caribbean country out of the upcoming FIFA World Cup. England can play Montene­gro in a FIFA Qualifying World Cup match and Portugal can play against Lithuania but the USA and Canada, the countries of the two senior CONCACAF officials who conspired to deny Trinidad & Tobago an even chance of qualifying will not play against Trinidad & Tobago. And John-Williams sees nothing wrong with this and says nothing!

He believes that a House of Football can get Trinidad & Toba­go into a FIFA World Cup Final! Poor David does not understand that the proof of the pudding is in the eating; how your players per­form on the field of play and not how expensive a House of Foot­ball that has been built. In reality what he is really pro­posing with his House of Football is a museum to remind the nation of the good old days, a place where they could enter to remi­nisce on the recent past, when stadia used to be filled with sup­porters chanting while the Strike Squad, as it was then called, was ruffling the feathers of other so-called giants.

What does John-Williams hope will change as he builds for this dying sport, a home over which more in-fighting will become the order of the day?

We are putting the cart before the horse

I have no problem with a House for Football but once again we are putting the cart before the horse because what John-Wil­liams should be addressing, what his administration should be dis­cussing with the connoisseurs of football is a way forward, some kind of strategic plan to lift this country out of the bottomless pit football has found itself.

Probably, Mr. John-Williams does not know that Trinidad & Tobago is currently positioned at Number 101 in the FIFA Rank­ings and we are now keeping company with unknown teams like Palestine and Estonia.

Probably the President David John-Williams is totally unaware of the fact that under him Trini­dad and Tobago have tumbled 47 places down and under his current head coach we have collapsed by 17 places which offer no hope for the future for football.

Based on the current system, we cannot even hope for auto­matic qualification to be able to stake a claim for the Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup because to do so we must be ranked within the top six in CONCACAF and the last time I checked, the Soca Warriors were sadly placed at number 11.

The national team has until June 2020 to put its house in or­der, not the House that the Presi­dent John-Williams has built but their state of football, their talent and their game if they hope to qualify.

Sadly, because our administra­tors have lost their vision, our players are brutally affected since some Premier Leagues across the world are not even considering recruiting members from nation-states that are below Number 70 in the FIFA Ranking.
Our players were never faced with that kind of problem before, so if Dwight Yorke were in the prime of his career now, he would have never been gifted with the opportunity to play for Manches­ter United in the Premier League because England happens to be one of the countries where this rule applies.

Trinidad & Tobago’s next International match

Now I try to understand what the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association is doing.

They are trying to play teams to improve their ranking within the FIFA, but to play a team like Anguilla where they scored 15 goals is not the way to go be­cause Anguilla is woefully placed in the ranking at 209, 108 places lower than Trinidad and Tobago. Many are facetiously asking if this country’s next match will be against Five Islands! One never knows!

Since Honduras has just em­barassed us 4-0 – our 22nd con­secutive defeat!

The USA women’s football team would have even been more brutal than we were on Anguilla because clearly, they demonstrate more field of play intelligence than the men who represent us do.

Sigh!!!!

I will be the last one to argue against a House for Football, but President David John-Wil­liams needs to tell us how this House will improve our FIFA ranking, how it will provide op­portunities for us to qualify for another World Cup and most importantly how it will gift our players with the chance to run against their idols if we cannot raise our FIFA ranking above 70.

This is the worst period in our football and the country will re­member David John-Williams for the abject failure he has be­come. It will take some shine away from Dennis Lawrence because I hope that we never forget that decisive header in Bahrain that took us to the FIFA Men’s World in Germany in 2006.

And since the TTFA President has chosen to build his House of Football at this time, the players will never forget that at a time when they needed the Football administrators to stand and de­liver a strategic plan to get them out of this current mess, all that President John-Williams has focused on was a comfortable home for the administrators which is of no value to a foot­balling nation that Trinidad and Tobago has become.

Our football deserves better and what this country needs now is a development plan, a world-class coach and administrators who can teach our players how to win again. In a word, Trini­dad & Tobago’s football needs a new administration.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2682 on: November 20, 2019, 05:47:50 PM »
The way the national team is playing today is erasing the memory of 1965 when Trinidad & Tobago defeated Argentina in a Pan American game

Not trying to be petty, the PanAm games was 1967. Although I had to swallow meh saliva to admit I agree with some of what he says, it is still a case of the "pot and kettle arguing who black". Even though he wrote this long diatribe he is probably admiring the the way DJW is using pages out of his own(JW's) play book. Just before election bring a lot of disgruntled sides to pad votes. Away with you Jack. I am putting it mildly!

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« Reply #2683 on: November 20, 2019, 07:24:27 PM »
The way the national team is playing today is erasing the memory of 1965 when Trinidad & Tobago defeated Argentina in a Pan American game

Not trying to be petty, the PanAm games was 1967. Although I had to swallow meh saliva to admit I agree with some of what he says, it is still a case of the "pot and kettle arguing who black". Even though he wrote this long diatribe he is probably admiring the the way DJW is using pages out of his own(JW's) play book. Just before election bring a lot of disgruntled sides to pad votes. Away with you Jack. I am putting it mildly!

His count of the matches won and lost is also off, but the thrust of his assertions with respect to the team's record are correct.

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Since Honduras has just em­barassed us 4-0 – our 22nd con­secutive defeat!

For instance, this isn't accurate.

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For 21 consecutive games, we failed to win an International match and this is not because we were playing against teams like Brazil, England or Germany. In some cases, we played teams that were lower ranked than Trinidad & Tobago and yet failed to secure victories.

Or this part in bold.
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« Reply #2684 on: November 27, 2019, 01:48:41 PM »
Jack Warner talks to Andre Errol Baptiste about the Home of Football, William Wallace, David John-Williams, Keith Look Loy, Secondary Schools Football, Quality of footballers, FIFA, Concacaf, President of FIFA Gianni Infantino, Caribbean Football Union, Peoples National Movement, United National Congress, and the future of Trinidad and Tobago football.
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« Reply #2685 on: November 27, 2019, 06:57:04 PM »
Lol As much as Jack is a corrupt individual he is right...Anguilla should have been a task for Green machine or El Dorado. Even Trinity could beat Anguilla
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« Reply #2686 on: November 27, 2019, 07:38:31 PM »
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« Reply #2687 on: November 27, 2019, 07:44:15 PM »
I think jack showed a little too much of his hand there. it almost seem that this it was more of a trap.....bait...andre fishing for info to place jack as one who’s meddling with this new association affairs, Jack best be careful with this DJW apologist. and no jack dennis lawrence don’t need help, he needs to go he’s toxic in every sense of the word and the last game is testament that the dressing room has lost confidence in him, its like dennis don’t have no shame if he insist on staying.
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« Reply #2688 on: November 27, 2019, 07:58:24 PM »
I think jack showed a little too much of his hand there. it almost seem that this it was more of a trap.....bait...andre fishing for info to place jack as one who’s meddling with this new association affairs, Jack bestie careful with this DJW apologist. and no jack dennis lawrence don’t need help, he needs to go he’s toxic in every sense of the word and the last game is testament that the dressing room has lost confidence in him, its like dennis don’t have no shame if he insist on staying.

Yuh see it. Precisely my initial impression and I haven't listened to the interview in its entirety yet.

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« Reply #2689 on: November 27, 2019, 11:38:22 PM »
I think jack showed a little too much of his hand there. it almost seem that this it was more of a trap.....bait...andre fishing for info to place jack as one who’s meddling with this new association affairs, Jack bestie careful with this DJW apologist. and no jack dennis lawrence don’t need help, he needs to go he’s toxic in every sense of the word and the last game is testament that the dressing room has lost confidence in him, its like dennis don’t have no shame if he insist on staying.

Nah that wasn’t  ah hang jack but the loud one tried... he poked but jw can’t be touched for giving his advice and opinion... hes not running the fed, he’s giving his opinion..

The best part of that interview was if they (fifa and concacaf) spite TT FOOTBALL they will be gone in 4 years..

Something I have always spoken about, we have the swing vote and we are second to Africa... unity means we take back control of concacaf

Wallace ain’t going nowhere .... if I was in Wallace position , I would sit with jack as well and learn everything about how fifa runs and inside out about the internal politics.. jack is a gold mine of info, so why not use that info to improve football in TT?

I disagree with keeping Lawrence, that was BS... Lawrence needs to leave
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« Reply #2690 on: November 27, 2019, 11:47:55 PM »
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« Reply #2691 on: November 28, 2019, 07:28:47 PM »
In Andre's interview with AJW, Lasana reports Jack as stating:

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“I want to see now how we would put into practice what he has been told.”

I listened to the interview and thought I heard "he" instead of "we". Certainly I think Andre would have been all over "we".

What did you hear?
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« Reply #2692 on: November 28, 2019, 07:38:03 PM »
In Andre's interview with AJW, Lasana reports Jack as stating:

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“I want to see now how we would put into practice what he has been told.”

I listened to the interview and thought I heard "he" instead of "we". Certainly I think Andre would have been all over "we".

What did you hear?
i heard a desperate fan boy trying his best to throw sand in the peleau. I used to take this imp seriously especially when he went in on Dave cameron for his failure with West Indies cricket, but here we have a federation president who’s performance was on par with mr cameron yet andre not only supports him, he also facilitate him and in despite of him being ousted he continues to working along side him to derail this new administration.

As for what I heard with jack and wallace, I heard a president who went to an old veteran in the business for advise, I think andre is reading way too much into this just like most trinis do.
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« Reply #2693 on: November 29, 2019, 12:28:15 AM »
In Andre's interview with AJW, Lasana reports Jack as stating:

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“I want to see now how we would put into practice what he has been told.”

I listened to the interview and thought I heard "he" instead of "we". Certainly I think Andre would have been all over "we".

What did you hear?
i heard a desperate fan boy trying his best to throw sand in the peleau. I used to take this imp seriously especially when he went in on Dave cameron for his failure with West Indies cricket, but here we have a federation president who’s performance was on par with mr cameron yet andre not only supports him, he also facilitate him and in despite of him being ousted he continues to working along side him to derail this new administration.

As for what I heard with jack and wallace, I heard a president who went to an old veteran in the business for advise, I think andre is reading way too much into this just like most trinis do.

If that was an attempt to sanitize JW due the failure of DJW, it was a failure, as far as I am concern. The deep latrine hole that the TTFA is attempting to exit, was dug and casted by the so called special adviser. So I would advise WW(lots of Ws in TT football) to stay away from JW. Do not make any verbal agreement or sign anything with him.

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« Reply #2694 on: November 29, 2019, 12:06:19 PM »
Him swearing retribution on anyone who won’t cooperate with Wallace kinda lets you know he’s invested to some kinda degree.

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« Reply #2695 on: November 29, 2019, 12:46:14 PM »
Him swearing retribution on anyone who won’t cooperate with Wallace kinda lets you know he’s invested to some kinda degree.

No it shows how powerful TT is and the region...

It also shows that the dictator was complicit in our sabotage and had support, Wallace not being a puppet puts him at risk of being targeted and that is what Warner spoke about if it happens

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TTFA audit first was best move: Warner
« Reply #2696 on: November 29, 2019, 01:45:09 PM »
TTFA audit first was best move: Warner
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For­mer FI­FA vice-pres­i­dent Austin Jack Warn­er, who has been in­volved in foot­ball in many ar­eas lo­cal­ly and in­ter­na­tion­al­ly and who is wide­ly ac­cred­it­ed with en­sur­ing that Trinidad and To­ba­go was able to qual­i­fy for its first and on­ly World Cup in 2006, says he agrees with new­ly-elect­ed TTFA pres­i­dent William Wal­lace's de­ci­sion to do an au­dit be­fore un­der­tak­ing any ma­jor ac­tiv­i­ties.

“The rea­sons giv­en for that, was to do an au­dit of the foot­ball house and to make sure that noth­ing is lost in the tran­si­tion and that the clo­sure is tem­po­rary, if those are the rea­sons I have no prob­lem with that …the house of foot­ball must nev­er be treat­ed like the Cou­va’s Chil­dren hos­pi­tal,” Warn­er said dur­ing an in­ter­view onI95FM on Tues­day night.

Asked if he felt clos­ing the Home of Foot­ball in Cou­va less than a week af­ter it was of­fi­cial­ly opened was a good idea, Warn­er said, “Well I do not think that Mr (William) Wal­lace is that sil­ly to adopt that po­si­tion. What I think he has to do and he has said that pub­licly is to do an au­dit at all lev­els, he has to know what the TTFA has, who they owe, he has to know what are their as­sets and what are their li­a­bil­i­ties and there­fore if the clo­sure of the House of Foot­ball is tem­po­rary, then so be it.”

Wal­lace was elect­ed as pres­i­dent at Sun­day's TTFA AGM, re­plac­ing in­cum­bent David John Williams by a vote of 26-20.

Asked if he was sur­prised by Wal­lace’s suc­cess, Warn­er said, “On the con­trary, I am not sur­prised. I am sur­prised that Wal­lace did not get more votes, …be­cause I think that what John-Williams mis­un­der­stood and he and his FI­FA and CON­CA­CAF col­leagues and even the Prime Min­is­ter …what they mis­un­der­stood is that foot­ball is on the field of play, peo­ple want to see re­sults, they want to see suc­cess­es, spon­sors want to come in and you could build a House of Foot­ball four times in one year, that does not equate to suc­cess on the field of play…,” he said.

“I feel that any­one but Williams who is pas­sion­ate about the sport can do well and will do well, and Wal­lace is well gift­ed with the tal­ents to do well. He is Sec­ondary Schools Foot­ball pres­i­dent, he is act­ing prin­ci­pal of a school, he knows about young peo­ple and what they want but most im­por­tant­ly, he is one who has a vi­sion of where he wants to car­ry the sport…and I think one les­son which has to be learnt by Wal­lace and for me the most im­por­tant one, is that any­one can build a House of Foot­ball, but it takes a true leader to build a home and he has now to build a home."

Warn­er ad­mit­ted that he had been up­set that T&T's foot­ball had been al­lowed to de­gen­er­ate to the point where they now sit at 104th on the FI­FA rank­ings. He al­so said he was un­hap­py that Caribbean Foot­ball Union mem­bers al­lowed CON­CA­CAF to change the World Cup qual­i­fy­ing for­mat to the detri­ment of the small­er coun­tries.

“I am bi­ased against those who sit qui­et­ly by and al­low CON­CA­CAF to kill World Cup foot­ball qual­i­fi­ca­tion by hav­ing an elit­ist for­mat …I am against those things and more," he said.

“Time will tell, I am not go­ing to make any pre-judg­ment on Kei­th Look Loy and how he op­er­ates or An­tho­ny Har­ford or any­body else. Time will tell, I know guys who were one way be­fore an elec­tion, even in pol­i­tics and once they get in­to po­si­tion, they are dif­fer­ent, pos­i­tive­ly or neg­a­tive­ly, so let us wait and see and not make any pre-judg­ment. All stake­hold­ers should be called and out of that get a man­u­al a blue­print for the fu­ture."

Asked if he was ever ap­proached by John-Williams, Warn­er said, “In four years, not once, I want to re­peat that, in four years David John-Williams nev­er asked me once for an idea on any­thing in foot­ball, be­cause he had all the an­swers. That is why he is where he is to­day.”

How­ev­er, Warn­er claimed Wal­lace vis­it­ed him sev­er­al times and as late as a month on the vi­sion for foot­ball.

"We spoke at length and he was a good lis­ten­er. I want to see now how he will put in­to prac­tice what he has been told."

He added, “There is no quick fix in foot­ball, you can­not have a Nescafe men­tal­i­ty, you have to build from the ground up."

Warn­er al­so be­lieves coach Den­nis Lawrence should re­main in the job, but said an over­seas coach should be brought in to work with him. How­ev­er, he said he was al­so con­cerned that CON­CA­CAF was no longer de­vel­op­ing re­gion­al coach and of­fi­cials.

Re­spond­ing to a re­cent ar­ti­cle which sug­gest­ed he (Warn­er) is ad­vis­ing Wal­lace's TTFA Unit­ed team, Warn­er stat­ed, "I am dis­mis­sive of that and I am say­ing if even that was the case, and it means, and by the way, that is not the case, and it means that is the be­gin­ning of the way to lift foot­ball in the coun­try so be it. What’s wrong with that? I have been in foot­ball for 30 years at the in­ter­na­tion­al lev­el and I still be­lieve that any­body who wants to ask me some­thing in foot­ball, I must an­swer them and ad­vise them, if they come to me yes, if not so be it.”
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« Reply #2697 on: January 21, 2020, 05:06:26 PM »
Warner to challenge the extradition proceedings against him.
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Ex-FIFA Vice President Jack Warner has received final leave, to take his challenge of the extradition proceedings against him, to the Privy Council.

At a leave hearing at the Court of Appeal on Monday, Justices Nolan Bereaux, Gregory Smith and Andre des Vignes granted the former government minister permission, to take his challenge to the final appellate court in London.

Mr. Warner is challenging the process by which the extradition proceedings against him are being carried out and seeks to quash the Authority to Proceed (ATP) which was signed in 2016 by Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi.

Mr. Warner also challenged the legality of the Extradition Commonwealth and Foreign Territories Act, and the treaty signed between this country and the United States.

Mr. Warner is wanted in the US for a series of fraud-related offences allegedly committed during his tenure as vice-president of world football's governing body FIFA.

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« Reply #2698 on: March 22, 2020, 09:06:13 AM »
WATCH: Former FIFA Vice President Jack Warner talks football, Trinidad and Tobago politics and the 2020 general elections

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Warner rubbishes bribery claims
« Reply #2699 on: April 07, 2020, 01:58:17 PM »
Warner rubbishes bribery claims
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday)


FORMER FIFA vice-president Jack Austin Warner has expressed “no comment” to claims in an Associated Press report last evening that he received US$5 million in bribes for votes for Qatar to be awarded host nation for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

According to the report, “prosecutors revealed new details of alleged bribes paid to FIFA executive committee members to gain their votes for Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup and charged a pair of former 21st Century Fox executives with making illegal payments to win broadcast rights for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments.

“An indictment unsealed Monday in US District Court in Brooklyn says Nicolás Leoz, then president of the South American governing body CONMEBOL, and former Brazil federation president Ricardo Teixeira received bribes to vote for Qatar at the 2010 FIFA executive committee meeting.

“Jack Warner of T&T, president of the North and Central American and Caribbean governing body Concacaf, received US$5 million in bribes to vote for Russia to host in 2018 from 10 different shell companies that included entities in Anguilla, Cyprus and the British Virgin Islands, the indictment alleged. Guatemala federation president Rafael Salguero was promised a US$1 million bribe to vote for Russia, according to the indictment.”

When contacted on Monday evening, Warner mentioned, “You really want me to answer that stupidness? I have no comment to make on that. That is still news?”

Asked if he wished to refute or deny the allegations, Warner replied, “If allyuh want to be messengers for the US, go ahead. I have no problem with that.”

Will he be prepared to fight this battle legally? “I’m not interested in that,” he responded. “If the US people tell you to go ahead with that, go ahead nah.”

According to the AP report, “Leoz, who died last August, avoided extradition, as have Warner and Teixeira. Salguero pleaded guilty in 2018 to two counts of wire fraud conspiracy and one count each of racketeering conspiracy and money laundering conspiracy.

“Alejandro Burzaco, former head of the marketing company Torneos y Competencias, testified in 2017 that all three South Americans on the FIFA executive committee took million-dollar bribes to support Qatar, which prevailed over the US 14-8.

“ESPN had US English-language television rights to the World Cup from 1994-2014, but Fox in 2011 gained the rights for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments. After the 2022 tournament in Qatar was shifted from summer to late autumn, a time when it is likely to get less attention in the US, FIFA awarded Fox rights for 2026 without competitive bidding.”022 tournament in Qatar was shifted from summer to late autumn, a time when it is likely to get less attention in the US, FIFA awarded Fox rights for 2026 without competitive bidding.”
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