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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2700 on: April 07, 2020, 06:08:32 PM »
we paying for your f--king sins!!!!

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2701 on: April 08, 2020, 07:21:00 AM »
US DOJ: World Cup payments sent to T&T via transactions.
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday)


THE US Department of Justice (DOJ) is claiming that alleged bribery payments for successful FIFA World Cup bids (2018 in Russia and 2022 in Qatar) arrived in TT via "densely layered transactions between and among offshore accounts," including in Cyprus and the British Virgin Islands.

Some money was wired using accounts that also paid "companies based in the United States that performed work on behalf of the 2018 Russia World Cup bid,” the DOJ said.

In an Associated Press report today, the indictment, which was unsealed late Monday, said former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner received US$5 million in bribes to vote for Russia from 10 different offshore shell companies, which used correspondent accounts in the US.

Warner was first indicted in 2015 on financial corruption charges that included a separate US$10 million bribe from 2010 World Cup host South Africa. He was an influential FIFA vice president at the time of Russia’s victory against three rival European bids.

Two emails were cited in the indictment as new evidence in the sprawling investigation that first rocked FIFA and international soccer officials in May 2015.

One was written by “co-conspirator 3” in April 2011 and allegedly was sent to Warner’s assistant with advice on writing to accept receiving the “5m” total payments “minus minimal bank charges.”

The identity of No. 3 has not been made public, but the person has been described as “a close advisor” to then-FIFA president Sepp Blatter and “other high-ranking FIFA officials.”

The other email, also to Warner’s assistant, was written ahead of the FIFA vote by “an associate of co-conspirator 3.”

Warner has been fighting extradition to face racketeering conspiracy charges in the US since 2015, the same year FIFA banned him for life.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2702 on: April 25, 2020, 09:12:00 AM »
Ex-FIFA chief Jack Warner in UK court appeal against corruption charges
By Bryan Swanson, Chief Reporter, Sky Sports News


Former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner will take his fight against corruption charges in the United States to the highest overseas court in London.

Warner, who lives in Trinidad and Tobago, is fighting extradition to the US and denies accepting millions of dollars in bribes.

US prosecutors allege he has been involved in criminal corrupt practices for more than two decades.

The Supreme Court confirmed to Sky Sports News on Friday that Warner has now been issued an 'appeal as of right' following permission in a lower court.

Warner's case will be heard by the Privy Council and is the court of final appeal for Commonwealth countries, including Trinidad and Tobago, that have retained the right to appeal to the UK Judicial Committee.

A court date has yet to be set.

Earlier this month, the US Department of Justice claimed that Warner "was promised and received bribe payments totalling $5m" - now the equivalent of £4.3m - in exchange for a vote "in favour of Russia to host the 2018 World Cup".

The indictment states: "In or about and between November 2010 and April 2011, the defendant Jack Warner received a total of approximately $5m, via more than two dozen separate wire transfers, to an account he controlled at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago in the name of the CFU.

"The wire transfers were sent from 10 different shell companies, all of which were registered and maintained bank accounts in offshore jurisdictions, including Cyprus, Anguilla and the British Virgin Islands, and were cleared through correspondent accounts located in the United States.

"The shell companies used to pay Warner formed part of a broader network of shell entities used to move money through densely layered transactions between and among offshore accounts.

"Several of the accounts used to wire money to Warner received or sent wire transfers to or from companies based in the United States that performed work on behalf of the 2018 Russia World Cup bid."

Russia 2018 organisers have denied wrongdoing and said: "We have repeatedly said that our bid was transparent."

Warner, who has consistently maintained his innocence, has yet to comment on the claims in this month's US indictment.

In a statement earlier this month, FIFA said: "It is important to point out that FIFA has itself been accorded victim status in the US criminal proceedings and senior FIFA officials are in regular contact with the US Department of Justice.

"Following the latest indictment, FIFA will ask the DOJ for further information on these matters."

In May 2015, Warner was one of 14 defendants charged in connection with a 24-year scheme to allegedly "enrich themselves through the corruption of international soccer".

The following week, Warner said he feared for his life and would reveal everything he knows, stating he had instructed his lawyers to contact law enforcement officials in his homeland and overseas.

In September 2015, he was banned from all football activities for life by FIFA, more than four years after quitting football.

Warner committed "many and various acts of misconduct continuously and repeatedly", according to world football's governing body's ethics committee.

Sky Sports News has contacted Warner for comment.
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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2703 on: April 26, 2020, 03:22:37 PM »
You running to the Privy Council to save your backside.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2704 on: April 26, 2020, 03:35:50 PM »
You running to the Privy Council to save your backside.
Damn thing is, we need a new tsunami to wash way all these new players. Jack tsunami would probably barely reach DJW , Monty and the dreaded Infant toes today.

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Police file reveals suspicions of Blatter in FIFA TV deal
« Reply #2705 on: April 29, 2020, 02:24:42 PM »
Police file reveals suspicions of Blatter in FIFA TV deal
By Graham Dunbar (Associated Press)


Swiss investigators concluded Sepp Blatter knew that a World Cup broadcasting contract was breached illegally and that it would cost FIFA millions of dollars, according to a federal police file obtained by The Associated Press.

Investigation reports sent to prosecutors in December and January showed FIFA wrote off a $3.8 million debt from a Caribbean TV deal signed in 2005 by then-FIFA president Blatter and long-time vice president Jack Warner. The deal was later alleged to have been illegally mismanaged by Blatter.

“Blatter acted … more in the interests of Warner than in the interests of FIFA,” concluded one investigation file seen by the AP.

However, the office of Switzerland’s attorney general decided in March it would drop a criminal proceeding from 2015 against Blatter for the Caribbean deal. No reason was stated.

Swiss federal police believed Blatter knew in 2007 that Warner had breached — and would personally profit from — a Caribbean rights deal for the 2010 and 2014 World Cups that was sold to a Jamaica-based broadcaster.

Details of the original FIFA contract were revealed by Swiss media in September 2015, showing a $600,000 sale to the Warner-controlled Caribbean Football Union.

At the time, FIFA defended the contract by saying it required soccer’s governing body to get a 50% profit share of any future licensing arrangement. The re-sale was valued at about $15 million.

But FIFA did not try to collect money due in August 2010 within 30 days of the World Cup ending, according to the Swiss police file.

The investigation cited documents and staff emails showing FIFA was due half of any gross revenue from the Caribbean deal, into which Warner had inserted a company he owned.

“FIFA were very reluctant to implement any measures in connection with enforcing their rights against the CFU,” Swiss police said in its 491-page report.

FIFA calculated it was owed almost $3.8 million in 2011 after Warner resigned from soccer. He had been implicated in bribing Caribbean voters to oppose Blatter in that year’s FIFA presidential election.

Only then did FIFA management terminate the Caribbean rights and pursue the debt, though not directly with Warner. Instead, it asked the CFU, which had few assets after Warner left.

FIFA wrote off the debt weeks later, the police file showed. It included $3.625 million of estimated revenue from broadcasting sponsors and advertising, and $155,000 of unpaid rights fee instalments, the investigation file said.

A different police report detailed more than 15 years of FIFA’s working relations with Warner. It suggested FIFA granted favors and gifts in apparent exchange for election support to help Blatter retain the presidency.

Blatter, who is now 84 and banned from soccer until October 2021, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. He has long denied wrongdoing.

Blatter faces a second criminal proceeding over a $2 million payment he authorized in 2011 to former UEFA president Michel Platini. That payment was revealed by Swiss authorities in September 2015 and led to both men being suspended and then banned from soccer.

Swiss investigations of Blatter are handled by a second prosecutor who took over after the federal office’s head of financial crimes had his contract terminated in November 2018.

Attorney general Michael Lauber was recused from FIFA cases last year. He was disciplined in March after having secret meetings with current FIFA president Gianni Infantino and failing to tell the truth about them.
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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2706 on: May 20, 2020, 01:23:43 PM »
WATCH: Jack Warner speaks on various topics including the Caribbean Football Union, the proposed Caribbean Professional League, the impasse between the FIFA, TTFA, and the Normalisation Committee, as well as the state of football in Trinidad and Tobago.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/CF0jQtRpJSM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/CF0jQtRpJSM</a>
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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2707 on: May 22, 2020, 10:39:03 AM »
 :rotfl: :rotfl:
So no comments . Mankind fraid to give jack ah jacket or kudos where due, as Robin Hood was really white and handsome.  :devil:
Bet some ppl think Jack more despicable than Trump.

Jack was wrong, but he had many things correct.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2708 on: May 22, 2020, 01:41:02 PM »
:rotfl: :rotfl:
So no comments . Mankind fraid to give jack ah jacket or kudos where due, as Robin Hood was really white and handsome.  :devil:
Bet some ppl think Jack more despicable than Trump.

Jack was wrong, but he had many things correct.

JW always has the insight, the man is a walking library on fifa and it’s corruption

He was wrong in many ways but he’s not stupid and why not tap his brain to improve our football and fight fifa

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2709 on: May 23, 2020, 08:13:15 AM »
:rotfl: :rotfl:
So no comments . Mankind fraid to give jack ah jacket or kudos where due, as Robin Hood was really white and handsome.  :devil:
Bet some ppl think Jack more despicable than Trump.

Jack was wrong, but he had many things correct.

Enjoyed the interview. Just hope he hasn't set himself up for an extraordinary rendition before the cocks crow.

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Weak leadership: Warner criticises CFU president
« Reply #2710 on: May 23, 2020, 12:36:50 PM »
Weak leadership: Warner criticises CFU president
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WEAK LEADERSHIP has left Caribbean football divided and at the mercy of world powers.

“If we had a strong Caribbean, the injustice which was done to Trinidad and Tobago football by FIFA would never have taken place,” stated Austin Jack Warner, the former Caribbean Football Union (CFU) president.

“You would never hear a CFU of old say TTFA should accept FIFA’s dictates,” Warner vented. “Never!!”

Warner’s comments came in an in-depth interview with moderator Andre Baptiste on i95.5FM Sports Talk programme.

Warner was the most powerful-ever CFU president. He was at its helm for 21 years, leading to him further assuming more powerful positions as president of the CONCACAF region and also a vice-president of FIFA—the governing body for world football, remaining in that post until 2011, when resigning all his roles amid a football corruption scandal.

In a scathing rebuke of the current CFU leadership, Warner said the organisation which he formerly ruled is now a shadow of its former self. “Randy Harris has never been a leader,” Warner said of the current CFU boss.

Warner insisted that unity had always been the greatest strength of the small Caribbean islands. Under Harris, Warner feels the CFU is divided and greatly weakened.

In a previous interview on Baptiste’s programme, Harris had declared that CFU was not dead, but that its members had to abide by the dictates of world football’s governing body from time to time, because FIFA was the only entity funding most of the small Caribbean countries.

“All of us are answerable to FIFA and from time to time, all of us are in situations that have to be regularised,” Harris had said.

“FIFA is very serious about how they operate in the Caribbean; if they are giving you these annual sums of monies, you have to be accountable. It happens to all of us, there are always questions being asked,” Harris had further asserted.

To Warner, Harris’ explanations were signs of great weakness. “We voted as a block. You have the strength of your vote,” Warner noted, adding, “I became strong in FIFA because I controlled 35 of 35 votes.”

Warner felt that under its current administration, CFU is non-functional. “Have you ever heard anything about a CFU congress? What about the CFU referees? Which games have they taken part in at the World Cup level or CONCACAF level? What about the CFU Youth Programmes? What about the CFU coaching courses?”

The Congress, Warner was referencing, has been suspended. On March 30, CFU general secretary, Trinidadian Camara David, issued a release announcing the suspension of the 2020 CFU Congress, which was scheduled for May 7, owing to the evolving situation with the Covid-19 pandemic.

“All these things have been forgotten. It is no longer a CFU,” Warner continued. “CFU is now dead in the water... thanks to Harris, thanks to CONCACAF, thanks to FIFA and, of course, their colleague in Jamaica. It is the worst period in Caribbean football history,” he added.
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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2711 on: May 23, 2020, 01:38:23 PM »
Sadly, I agree with JW.

In his day they may have been crooked FKS but the CFU had rank.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2712 on: May 23, 2020, 07:49:14 PM »
Sadly, I agree with JW.

In his day they may have been crooked FKS but the CFU had rank.

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jack warner is full of it. him taking a stroll down memory lane boasting of how good it was when he was in charge holds no consolation for us in this present crappy situation. ask warner what he has done for football in the region?

for all the years he was the big boss why didn’t he make CFU its own confederation separate from central and north america? and it was do-able because of the numbers there are in CFU having 31 teams to central and north americas 10 countries like their south american counterparts.

 we are stiffilled by central and north america to the point where we’re lucky to have one single CFU team in the hex where more than often there are always three central american teams with the United states and mexico being mainstays in the hex for the past 30 years and jack has done nothing to fix this but instead maintain the status quo.

he wasn’t even able to entice the pro league to link up with the super league to create a tier system and promote the local game, and he had all the tools and resources at his disposal to achieve this but instead sat on his hands and sought his own interest, but made no serious push to strengthen CFU teams be it club or national teams, no serious infrastructure no development, not even a regional pro league, he should be ashamed to open his mouth.

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Jack has Covid
« Reply #2713 on: September 02, 2020, 06:33:26 PM »
Jack has Covid
By Anna Ramdass (T&T Express)


Former FIFA Vice President and Government Minister Jack Warner has contracted the deadly Covid-19 virus.

The Express understands that Warner, 77, was taken to Westshore private hospital last Friday with reports of a cardiac issue.

He was subsequently attended do and he returned to his Arouca home where his condition deteriorated.

Warner was taken back to the Westshore hospital on Tuesday where a Covid test wad administered yielded a positive result.

The Express learnt that Warner is battling the virus and is in the care of the public healthcare institution.

There was speculation on the state of Warner's health on social media on Wednesday where rumours circulated that he had died.

Warner is not dead.

Independent Liberal Party (ILP) political leader Rekha Ramjit told the Express by phone that Warner is a private citizen and is entitled to his privacy.

She said when Warner or his family wishes to divulge any information they will do so.

Warner is the second Trinbagonian politician to contract the Covid-19 virus.

Former Caroni East MP Dr Tim Gopeesingh had tested Covid positive and was in State quarantine before being discharged to his home.

Warner had unsuccessfully contested the Lopinot/Bon Air West constituency seat in the August 10 general election and vigorously campaigned walking the constituency every day.

In 2013 Warner resigned as national security minister in the Persad-Bissessar government following a CONCACAF report which implicated him and his one-time ally Chuck Blazer as being “fraudulent in their management” of CONCACAF.

He is fighting extradition stemming from charges of criminal conduct in the US.

Warner had said last month that the corruption matter against him in the US is seven years old and he is optimistic that when the matter comes to trial he will be “fully cleared” as he was with the Integrity Commission.

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Warner hospitalised for COVID-19 treatment.
By Gail Alexander (Guardian).


A close relative of former People’s Partnership minister Jack Warner last evening confirmed that he had been hospitalised for the treatment of COVID-19.

“He is coping. He had a few issues of concern prior to the COVID diagnosis but he is a fighter,” the relative said, after social media reports first circulated yesterday that Warner had died before suggesting he was hospitalised on Tuesday for COVID-19.

The development came after Warner, 77, had said last Monday he had been tested for COVID-19 at a private institution after two of his employees tested positive recently. Two days later, he said that he’d spent a nerve-wracking 48 hours awaiting the test results but these showed he was negative. He said his wife Maureen, driver and others close to him had also tested for the virus and were all negative. He’d told the T&T Guardian that he would have still self-quarantine for seven days after the tests.

But yesterday, several social media reports alleged that Warner had “died” and it was later reported that he had been hospitalised with the virus.

Sports fraternity sources stated yesterday that following Warner’s first COVID test, he continued to feel unwell and went back for a second test at a private institution in West Trinidad on Tuesday - and that result proved positive. The sources also said that he’s since been hospitalised and is being treated for the virus.

Health Ministry officials didn’t answer calls on the issue last night, including on whether Warner, who unsuccessfully ran for the Lopinot/Bor Air West seat in the August 10 General Election, is now at a public health care facility.

Warner’s communications manager Michelle Borde-Harvey didn’t comment on the reports but told the T&T Guardian that Warner is resting comfortably.

“He isn’t saying anything to media right now but when he’s ready he will speak,” Borde-Harvey said.

Warner didn’t reply to calls or text messages yesterday.

Also contacted yesterday about the reports and his condition, his wife Maureen, speaking from their home, said, “I’m not speaking to any newspaper.”

Meanwhile, Independent Liberal Party (ILP) leader Rekha Ramjit said, “This is a private matter and I’m not about to breach any private confidence. If he can’t be reached, then he can’t be reached. His family will speak.

“If he can’t be reached, he can’t be reached or doesn’t want to be reached. I’m not denying or confirming any situation with Mr Warner. He is a private individual entitled to his privacy. If and when the time is right and if need be, his family will let the media what is happening. At this time, a person’s health is their private business and I won’t deny or confirm any rumours flying around the country.”

Yesterday, the UNC’s Devant Maharaj said he had spoken to the former FIFA vice president and Works and Transport minister last Sunday and Warner had told him he’d taken a COVID test last week and was cleared, as was his wife, driver and others.

The first politician to contract the virus was former UNC MP Dr Tim Gopeesingh, who was also being treated for the virus recently and had told the T&T Guardian last week that he was on the mend.

The country recorded a 28th COVID death yesterday and now has 1,201 active cases.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2714 on: September 04, 2020, 03:09:04 AM »
Sporting fraternity: Jack's a fighter.
By Bobie-Lee Dixon (Guardian).


Several hours after news broke on Wednesday evening that former FIFA Vice-President Jack Warner had tested positive for COVID-19 and was hospitalised, a post to his official Facebook page yesterday morning sought to confirm the reports, adding Warner was in good spirits.

“Pleasant morning all, the reports are true. Mr Warner has tested positive for Covid-19 and is, in fact, being treated. He wishes to advise all, that he is alive and in good spirits, as always,” the post read.

Responding to Warner’s diagnosis members of the sporting fraternity were now wishing the former CONCACAF president a speedy recovery.

Labelling Warner a ‘fighter’, they predicted he would fight and overcome this hurdle too.

Former Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president, William Wallace, said in a telephone interview the news of Warner’s positive COVID-19 diagnosis was a bit surprising but he added that it was clear no one was exempt from the virus.

“I wish Mr Warner a speedy recovery. I know he is a fighter and we are looking forward to him getting over this,” said Wallace.

Get-well wishes also came from President of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC), Brian Lewis who described Warner as a man of resilience and courage.

“It is not something anyone would want for themselves. One can only wish him the best in overcoming this,” he said.

Long-time friend and former Guardian Media Sports Editor Valentino Singh boasted, “If it is one man I know, will not lie down and die because of COVID-19, it’s Austin Jack Warner.”

Singh, who authored two biographies on Warner—Upwards Through the Night and From Zero to Hero, said Warner had surmounted and passed so many different obstacles in his life over the years from his childhood to now, and it was not like him to allow anything to defeat him whether it was a virus or fighting his legal battles.

“He is going to fight his way out of it, I am sure. He has done so much good for so many people despite what a lot of people think about him. And I am sure the weight of all the prayers by so many people will weigh in his favour. Like so many Trinidadians and people across the world, whose lives have been touched by Jack Warner, I too, wish him a speedy recovery.”

Morvant Caledonia United head coach, Jamaal Shabazz called Warner a ‘warrior’ who always maintained that disposition. He believes Warner was in God’s hands and proposed.

“Now is a time of serious uncertainty and it is important for us to turn to our Lord and draw inspiration for all aspects of our lives."

On Wednesday efforts to get updated information on the former politician’s condition proved a challenge as family and executive members of the Warner-formed Independent Labour Party (ILP) refused to divulge further details, saying Warner was a private citizen and the state of his health was a private matter.

Warner 77, unsuccessfully contested the Lopinot/Bon Air West constituency in last month’s August 10 general election, after which, he announced via his Facebook page he was exiting politics.

In the August 20 post, Warner, a former minister of national security, wrote, “I have chosen to exit from electoral as well as all other kinds of politics and for once, hopefully unperturbed, enjoy the evening of my life with my family and close friends. My political journey was rough but I enjoyed every moment of it. I may not live long enough to witness any transformation in my constituency, but never forget that I tried and that I love the constituents of Lopinot/Bon Air West for whom I would have given my all.”

After the election, Warner, a diabetic, had been experiencing health problems and was privately tested near two weeks ago for COVID-19 with an initial negative diagnosis, but subsequently retook the test on Tuesday after remaining unwell. The latter presented a positive conclusion.


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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2715 on: April 27, 2022, 12:41:00 PM »
Warner, Phillips head TTFA creditors seeking TT $84.5 million.
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Former FIFA vice president and T&T Football Association Special Advisor Austin Jack Warner and former TTFA General Secretary, Sheldon Phillips head the list of 289 creditors who have made claims of TT$84.5 million (US$13.5 million) owed to them by the TTFA.

Warner, a key figure in local football from the 1980s, and Phillips, the son of former national goalkeeper Lincoln “Tiger” Phillips have all submitted their claims to the local football federation trustee Maria Daniel.

On March 7, former national player and T&T head coach Dennis Lawrence won a multi-million-dollar High Court judgment against the TTFA who fired him on December 2019, for breach of contract, non-payment of his salaries and bonuses. He also has submitted a claim to the TTFA creditors for settlement along with Stephen Hart, Kendall Walkes, Terry Fenwick, Peter Miller, Anton Corneal, Russell Latapy, Ross Russell, former general secretaries Ramesh Ramdhan and Camara David, the T&T Football Referees Association, are among other creditors which comprises a very wide cross-section of players, technicals staff, administrative staff, companies and government agencies.

The TTFA general council had approved the sports’ debt at $98m in October 2021.

Last month, in a media release from the TTFA, creditors with claims against the TTFA were asked to individually submit a proof of claim on or before April 8 to Daniel, a chartered financial analyst and partner in Transaction Advisory Services, of Ernst and Young Services Limited.

In a March 22 notice, Daniel who is also the holder of a trustee license under the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act of T&T said: Each creditor with a claim against the TTFA is required to submit proof of claim supporting documentation in the prescribed form (Form 12) for examination and determination by me as the licensed trustee.

Daniel, who was appointed on November 8, 2021 by the FIFA appointed TTFA Normalisation Committee added: A creditor that does not submit a proof of claim shall not receive any payment pursuant to the proposal of the TTFA.

In my capacity as a licensed trustee, I require creditors that have not yet submitted their proof of claim to obtain a copy of the prescribed form and submit their proof of claim on or before April 8, 2022.

And following the passing of the deadline former CONCACAF boss Warner who has been facing extradition to the US since 2015 when he was indicted by the United States Department of Justice as part of the FIFA scandal was listed as the highest claimant for $TT 22.6 million (US$3.38 million) at the top of the list of the 289 TTFA creditors followed by a claim for TT$12 million by Phillips who was relieved of his position in 2015 and sued the local football body for wrongful dismissal.

A figure of TT$6.11 million is also listed as being owed to government and state creditors.

According to Tuesday report on InsideWorld Football by Paul Nicholson, the offer to unsecured creditors in the papers lodged at the court is for the provision of about US$2.38 million to settle their claims—about TT$12.4 million in total.

This money could come from a US$3 million to loan that is earmarked to settle the full debt.

For that to happen the proposal has to be accepted by the creditors at a meeting on May 5.

A majority of the meeting have to vote in favour of the proposal either in person or by proxy.

With the proposal being that the first TT$200,000 ($29,800) is paid to every creditor, that is pretty much guaranteed as only 31 of the 289 creditors listed have claims above that figure.

The insolvency rules also state that two thirds of the value of the total claim also have to vote in favour of the proposal for it to go through.

This becomes more difficult for the TTFA to achieve as the top 10 creditors represent about 70.5% of the total debt listed. In that top 10 are five former coaches who were unpaid and have court judgements in their favour against the TTFA—the fact that they are owed the money is pretty much undisputed and they are unlikely to accept payment that could be as low as 14 cents on the dollar. Though it could be a lot more if not all proofs of claim are submitted or the trustee rules out a number of claims as invalid—Warner and Phillips’ claims being the most questionable.

The filed court documents say that so far they have received only 59 proof of claims from the 291 creditors listed.

FIFA most likely source of bail out funds.

The financing of the creditor payments is explained as being via an unsecured $3 million loan and with the T&T government already stating they have no intention of providing the funds to clear the debt the name of the provider of the loan is not given but it realistically could only come from FIFA.

The loan is contingent on the creditors agreeing the debt proposal and that it being approved by the court.

The alternative finance solution would have been a sale of the TTFA’s assets, underpinned by the Home of Football facility.

However, the court documents say that this option is not preferred as there are various issues surrounding any sale of the Home of Football facility that suggest a sale would fall significantly short of the valuation.

What it does mean is that if the creditors agreed the proposal the TTFA would enter their new world with a monetiseable asset.

If they don’t agree the proposal, then, at another meeting will be convened within five days to try to find an agreement. If no agreement can be found then the TTFA will be liquidated.

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2716 on: April 28, 2022, 11:28:39 AM »
Jack Warner's fight against US extradition reaches Privy Council
By Jada Loutoo (T&T Newsday)


FORMER FIFA vice president and government minister Jack Warner’s fight against his extradition to the US to face a barrage of fraud-related charges has reached the Privy Council.

On Wednesday, five Privy Council judges – Lords Hodge, Briggs, Hamblem, Burrows, and Sir Declan Morgan – began hearing submissions from Warner’s attorneys and those for the State.

Warner has leading his team a leading UK barrister and extradition lawyer Clare Montgomery, SC, and Senior Counsel Fyard Hosein, both of whom began submissions on day one of his appeal of the Court of Appeal’s dismissal of the ex-Fifa jefe’s judicial review claim.

Warner is challenging the process by which the extradition proceedings against him are being carried out, and seeks to quash the authority to proceed (ATP) which was signed in 2016 by then-attorney general Faris Al-Rawi.

The ATP gave the magistrate the green light to begin committal proceedings. Warner has also challenged the legality of the Extradition (Commonwealth and Foreign Territories) Act, and the treaty signed between this country and the US.

Extradition proceedings against Warner have been stayed pending his legal challenges.

In its decision, the Court of Appeal held that the extradition treaty had not been shown to lack conformity with the act and there was no merit in Warner’s case that the US order, which declared that country as a declared foreign territory, was not valid.

However, Montgomery argued the purpose of the conformity requirement was not just to provide protection under domestic law but to provide the individual with protection in the US to ensure that country did not go beyond its treaty obligations.

She said the US could not act without consent in Trinidad and if Warner was to be extradited and that country wanted to “add charges,” it first had to be determined if it could.

“And, this is where the problem lies,” she said.

Montgomery also submitted the procedure adopted by the AG on the ATP was “conspicuously unfair” since Warner was neither given a proper opportunity to make representations, nor were disclosures provided to allow him to do so “consonant with the principles of fairness.”

She also complained of an “unacceptable condition” of the AG for Warner to consent to the extension of the ATP if he wanted an opportunity to make representations. She said had he agreed, there would not be any time for him to respond to the allegations against him by the US, and had declined, and was not willing to agree since by that time he was already under provisional arrest for 113 days.

In his submissions, Hosein said the law on extradition must be complied with nor did the Executive have the power to go beyond what was mandated by the legislature.

“There is provision for conformity (of the act and the treaty),” he said, adding that the Executive had no power to make “secret arrangements” with any territory.

“You cannot go beyond an authority given to you by the legislature. Extradition is guided by statute,” he said, questioning whether the legislature gave the Executive the “unrestrained mandate to exercise powers” and give assurances that could undermine protections and fundamental freedoms afforded to citizens under the Constitution.

In his reply, James Lewis, QC, said there was a level of conformity between the treaty and the act, but reminded the judges that courts usually did not tread on foreign policy issues.

“The treaty is not part of the law of Trinidad and Tobago. It is an unincorporated treaty not subsumed in domestic law. The courts do not examine provisions of an unincorporated treaty because they are not the law of the land.”

He said this case was slightly hybrid as it was not entirely in the realm of foreign policy, but not entirely domestic law. Because of this, he said, the interpretation of the treaty would be entirely for the AG.

“The AG would have had to look at the treaty and determine if there was compliance. The Court of Appeal was right to find it was in conformity with the Extradition Act and should be given broad statutory construction.”

Lewis continues his submissions on Thursday.

The US, in 2015, made a request for Warner’s extradition to answer to wide-ranging allegations of criminal conduct stretching back some 30 years during his tenure as vice-president of Fifa. He was one of 14 charged in connection with a 24-year scheme to allegedly “enrich themselves through the corruption of international soccer.”

Warner has consistently maintained his innocence.

In September 2015, he was banned from all football activities for life by FIFA. Also making up his team of attorneys in London are Rishi Dass, Sasha Bridgemohansingh and Anil Maraj.

He is out on $2.5 million bail.
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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2717 on: October 30, 2022, 02:48:42 PM »
Q&A: Jack Warner says Sorry to England, Forgives Kamla
Wants USA knocked out early in World Cup
by Prior Beharry (AZP News)


October 29, 2022

FORMER FIFA vice president and government minister Jack Warner sat down on Friday with Editor-in-Chief of AZP News Prior Beharry at his Sunshine Today newspaper office in Arouca to discuss politics in Trinidad and Tobago and why he supported Russia and not England for the 2018 World Cup. He said he has forgiven then prime minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar for firing him as a minister after he was indicted for alleged corruption in FIFA. He also revealed that former prime minister Patrick Manning had invited him to his home to complain about current head of government Dr Keith Rowley. See Q and A below:

PB: How shall I describe you – retired politician, businessman, publisher?

JW: I can be an embodiment of all three. I am a publisher. I have my own newspaper – Sunshine Today. It’s the only weekly in the country and people do tell me very often almost on a weekly basis that it’s the best newspaper that they read. It is very informative and it gives them a lot of inside information in current and future policies of the government.

I am a businessman, because I have my businesses basically rental businesses. I have various properties throughout the country where I have tenants and they by and large were people who were suffering from the pandemic, many of them have not paid rent for over two years, but I refuse to evict them because when times were good they were good and therefore… I am talking to them to see how best we can come to terms with what outstanding they have.

PB: How much you think you have lost?

JW: I would say conservatively a couple of million dollars well and want to be conservative about it because in this country you put a figure and people want to kill you after.

Thirdly, I thought I am a retired politician and in some ways I am. But every day when I see the state of this country – when I see what’s happening in terms of crime, the economy, agriculture, you name it. Many a times I feel to put on my guns again.

PB: What can be done in terms of crime solutions? What are the solutions?

JW: What can be done is so simple. And I don’t understand why it hasn’t been done. In the first case I would like to see all the retired police officers retain their title as they do in the army… The mere fact that these people carry their title and their weapons and so on will act as a deterrent.

More importantly and I am making the point over and over again that we need to have some coastal police stations to prevent the influx of guns coming into the country.

You can say what you want, everybody knows that Moruga, Cedros, Matelot, Erin – these are areas where guns come into the country.

I read last week where a guy got murdered from some Spanish speaking people and of course Venezuelans of course and one of the guy who was murdered had hit the ground, the guys were in their boat going back to Venezuela. In Moruga.

It is not only putting police officers on the street, that doesn’t solve the problem. We have to make better use of army. The fact is the army some five, six, seven thousand strong, they are lounging down in Chaguaramas. Why don’t we put them into action and get them to do the kind of patrols day and night that the country needs.

The time has come for us to start hangings once again. You can say what you want about Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj he of course was an attorney general that everybody feared. He was the only guy in the world today who hanged six of them in one day and until we begin to get people to be afraid of the consequences of their crime, nothing would have.

PB: It was actually nine over four days in 1999.

JW: Well yes nine over four days.

PB: And the state of roads in country?

JW: I have pity for (Minister of Works and Transport) Rohan Sinanan because I know he means well. In fact, we talk from time to time. But, until the government gets serious about funding, and put in quality control in the contractors who fix these roads, we in trouble.

Also you have to have what we call preventative maintenance. You don’t wait till a road collapses before you fix it. If you take a taxi or a car… from here (Arouca) to Matelot you would see about ten or 15 landslides that will happen in six to ten months’ time.

Why do we have to wait until these collapse before we fix them?

Who look at our bridges over the years to see what needs repairs or not. Must these bridges collapse before we fix them?

And then when the bridges collapse, they take a long time to be fixed. Look at the bridge by the Golden Grove Prison. It has collapsed and I tell you this… you may even see your grandchildren before that road is fixed.

PB:Is it that we don’t have a culture and history of maintenance in this country?


Jack Warner at his Sunshine Today newspaper office in Arouca. AZP News/Prior Beharry

JW: Prior, I hasten to add, we don’t. Look at our sports facilities (former prime minister Basdeo) Panday built four stadia in 2001. Twenty years later, look at them, fallen to pieces. Not one has a coat of paint. I mean elevators not functioning, doors lacking hinges and so on…

The government maintains nothing. And people argue with some justification and the reason for that is when the thing collapses then they have a contract to give to some friend of theirs to refurbish it and that is of course their friends and their financiers and so on make money. But it’s not fair to the country.

PB: But, was that how it was when you were minister of works?

JW: It wasn’t so in my time because I was emphatic about maintaining these facilities, maintaining the roads.

Remember… I am not trying to boast, after 28 years it was I who built the Mt Pleasant bridge in Arima, which for 28 years the PNM said couldn’t be built.

Remember it was me who opened the road from Piarco to St Helena. Remember it was me who fixed the road next to San Fernando Technical Institute. And the list goes on and on. I take no boast for this but I believe I was a visionary who worked for a dollar a month, who never bought a tax free car.

PB: You never bought a car tax free as was your right as a minister?

JW: So help my God, never a tax free car at no point in time. For seven years I was in Parliament. Because I didn’t went there to take, I went there to make.

I never travelled on taxpayers’ money. I travelled once to Jamaica and I paid my way. So I am saying this to tell you that until people become committed to improving the society and not taking from it we shall be in trouble.

PB: You said you only took $1 salary as a minister, people could say that you were getting a hefty amount of money from FIFA during that time?

JW: Agreed! But there are guys who are getting even heftier that than that even locally and they still taking.

If a guy has 30, 40 properties and you went into government… if you getting $24 million a year, $30 million a year, why should you take an additional salary. Why should you.

How much money can you spend. Prior, how many beds can you sleep in? How many vehicles can you drive at one time? How many homes you can sleep in at one time? What is this urge? This greed? What for?

Yes, I was being taken care of externally. But, I am saying that there are guys who have been taken care of internally, better than I was and they still taking.

PB: What was your salary at that time with FIFA?

JW: FIFA never gave a salary, they give a stipend. And it was easy to make US$10,000, US$15,000, US$20,000 a month if you want to. Then after at the end of every World Cup they give you an allowance that was substantial and so on. Remember I’m there for 30 years and therefore, this speaks a lot. So therefore, I was well taken care of by FIFA.

PB: Do you miss FIFA?

JW: I don’t really. I have travelled enough. I have gone to 177 countries some of them seven times over. I don’t need to travel anymore especially with the kinds of restrictions you have now, don’t travel with your belt, your shoes, your shocks and so on.

I have met kings and queens and princes, I mean there is nobody, and this is not a boast Prior, there is nobody in the Western world who has travelled more than I have travelled; who has met national leaders, from Mandela go back to Putin, go back to Queen Elizabeth, you name them, I have met them.

From (Joe) Biden to (Bill) Clinton to (Barack) Obama, I have sat with all of them. And therefore I don’t need that anymore, I have had my fill.

I am now able to look back as a senior citizen, if you want to call it that, and say what I have accomplished and what I have not accomplished.

PB: But, do you miss the travel?

JW: I don’t. I don’t. I swear to you, I don’t. Not these days.

PB: But, is it that you are wanted in the US that you don’t travel?

No, no, no. The US may have contributed to that but I stopped travelling long before the (indictment in the) US.

The US they have their axe to grind and in future we shall decide who is right and who is wrong… I stopped travelling long before the US restriction.

PB: Your matter is before the Privy Council and England doesn’t like you because you voted for Russia to get the 2018 World Cup and not England. Do you think that you will get a fair hearing and ruling by the Privy Councillors?

JW: History has shown that the Privy Council disregards events that take place outside their domain. I have seen the Privy Council give some decisions on matters here in Trinidad that sometimes astounds me. And therefore they are brave. They have no axe to grind. I feel safe and sound that I should be judged fairly before them and at the end of the day I am just waiting to see what the outcome shall eventually be.

PB: The Privy Council vs the Caribbean Court of Justice as the final court of appeal for T&T?

JW: I am not for the CCJ.

PB: Why is that?

JW: Because I believe the CCJ can be easily tainted by local prejudices. They have to be outside of the realm of local politics for me to be secure about them and therefore, I am saying that I am not happy at all with the CCJ. I hope it doesn’t come into being in my lifetime.

PB: How old are you?

JW: I will be 80 on the 26th of January 2023.

PB: You had Covid. How are you now? Any Long Covid?

JW: I’m ok now, I spent 13 wicked days at the Couva hospital (the main Covid facility in T&T during the pandemic).

I must confess that I thanked the Lord, because nobody at my age and who was as sick as I was survived. I was the only survivor who was that old went through that kind of Covid turmoil and survived.

PB: Were you in ICU?

JW: I was in HDU (high dependency unit).

PB: Did you like the treatment?

JW: The treatment was good. Nurses did their best, but I did not like the meals. I cannot understand. I’m not a greedy person for meals. But I can’t understand why it is in Couva, you have to get meals from Mt Hope. And Couva has the best kitchen in the Caribbean. Why is it that we had to get meals from Mt Hope that’s cold, that’s late and sometimes not at all.

PB: Overall, how do you think that the Government handled the pandemic?

JW: I think the government made a lot of money from it. Money that they received from donations from various sources. I don’t think that they spent all the money on the pandemic and at some point in time the truth shall be revealed.

There was too much of a kind of terror tactics being used by the ministry of health and by some of the doctors… terrorising people as such and telling people don’t do this, don’t do that and at no point in time, they were saying let’s put our heads together and see how we can draw from another experiment as the case maybe. And it’s in that sense I have some problems with that.

PB: After you were dismissed from the government in 2013, you resigned as MP for Chaguanas West and caused a bye-election to be called and then went back to win that seat again. How did you achieve that when you weren’t in government and that was UNC safe seat?

JW: I’ll go further to tell you I am a Negro and was fighting in an Indian constituency. I am a Catholic fighting in a highly Hindu constituency. I was living in the East fighting in a constituency that was in Central. And last of all, I was fighting the government’s collective machinery…

But, you know something Prior, why I was able to do what I did? Because I was able to represent those people in a way nobody else ever did.

And up to now (in) Chaguanas West there are guys who consider me there to be a demigod, a semi-god ‘cause I fix their roads, their bridges. I went to their functions. I gave scholarships for children of cane farmers. You name it I did it. Wherever a problem arose I was present.

My hours and this is not meant to be a boast. My hours in Chaguanas West on a Friday might be from midnight Friday night to five, six, seven pm on Saturday afternoon. People will come from all over the country to see me.

PB: And you saw everyone?

JW: I saw everybody. I saw every single body and Prior you know something, if even I wasn’t able to help some of them, everyone left with a smile. My door was always open.

And therefore, I felt because of my representation I would have won and I did.

PB: You have a reputation as an early riser because this morning you called me at 5.47?

JW: That was late. I was in the office already.

PB: Tell me how does your day go?

JW: I come to office five in the morning. I would work until nine (o’clock), ten (o’clock) and then the phone starts to ring, I go crazy because everybody is calling and calling.

At eleven, twelve, I would go and see some of my businesses talk to some of my tenants, see what the problem is. Then go to the Centre of Excellence…

I love to play All Fours. I am an All Fours genius, star.

PB: So you claim?

JW: I will show off now. I will go and play some All Fours at a place called The Palace where I have some interests- a club, a bar on First Street in Five Rivers. And then do some reading and go to bed about eleven.

I’ll be up by 2 am. Then I go to walk. Every morning I walk for an hour. In park next to me called Warner Park.

PB: You are not worried about crime?

JW: I have an armed security that walks with me. Every morning for an hour – from 3.30 am to 4.30 am.

PB: You said, ‘you think’ that you are now a retired politician. Is there an opportunity now for you to go back into the politics?

JW: I have been asked and called upon every day.

PB: By whom?

JW: I hate to tell you but you’ll will be surprised by the people who called me just for me to acknowledge them, and I say I am not ready. I don’t want to make a premature return that at the end of the day I regret. So I am looking on to see what’s happening outside there and grieving inside to see the state of the country.

I am offended to see this racial bogey of what the Indian and African polarization has done to a country because until that is fixed the country will not progress.

So therefore, you have Indian for UNC, African for PNM and a few thousand in between.

I had gone to the UNC to fix that, to readjust that. I had gone to show that you can go to an Indian party and still be a person. But of course Suruj Rambachan and others dashed that.

PB: Are you going to look at the World Cup?

JW: Football?

PB: Yes, Football World Cup

JW: I don’t look at football anymore. I look at cricket. I am a cricket fanatic now. T20.

PB: Who are you supporting now, since West Indies are out (of the T20 World Cup in Australia)?

JW: I never supported West Indies. I knew from the start they were non-starters. And I didn’t allow my emotions to get the better of me. I knew they wouldn’t make it. But I was backing Pakistan. I was backing Babar Azam and (Mohammed) Rizwan and after I see Zimbabwe beat them by a run I almost cried.

And right now I have transferred my support from Pakistan to India.

PB: So you don’t look at football at all. I see that England, America and Iran are in the same group in the World Cup. When England play American who will you support?

JW: That happen before, a couple World Cups before.

PB: Who would you support when England play America?

JW: I don’t care who win. It doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t matter to me who win. I mean, if you ask me that twice, I’ll tell you England because America has done damage to me and my family and therefore I am pained with America so I hoped that they get knocked out first. But beyond that I don’t care.

PB: England would say that they hate you because you voted to give Russia the 2018 World Cup over England.

JW: Yes they hate me. But hatred doesn’t last forever. Hated doesn’t last forever. At some point in time they have to come back to reality. The world isn’t made that way. When you hate somebody so much it tends to consume you and that is what affects you in the end.

PB: So do you regret voting for Russia against England?

JW: No! I thought it was Russia’s time. Where I failed I should have told England very early of what my intention was. I did not do that and therefore they were led along to believe I was supporting them. I failed, I erred and I apologise profusely for that but I thought it was Russia’s time to host a World Cup and I have no regret.

PB: You met (David) Beckham, you met Prince William… you gave them the impression…

JW: I met the Queen. I met her husband. The Queen gave me her plane to go to Ireland. The Queen put her plane at my disposal and her pilot to go to Ireland. I did all these things. England was very good to me. The brought courses to the Caribbean but in the end when I sat down and realise that England has hosted World Cups before.

PB: Only one in 1966.

JW: Yeah, but Russia had hosted none. Russian had never hosted a World Cup and I felt it was Russia’s turn. And when I sit back now and I reflect I have no cause for grief because I believe honestly, I did the right thing.
 
PB: What did you tell Prince William when you met him?

JW: I never said I would vote for them. I said, of course, I would give it some serious thought. At no point in time, thank God, did I tell England I voting for them.

PB: But, that was the impression people got in the media etc?

JW: The media don’t worry me. I know what I said. Even when the English team came here (Trinidad) and Beckham came and (did) coaching courses and so on, they asked me to make a statement that Jack Warner of CONCACAF now support the England bid. I didn’t do it. I didn’t do it. I never made a public endorsement of anybody.

PB: But did you give them the impression privately?

JW: That’s where I erred. I gave them that impression and I should not have. And that’s where I erred and possibly I am paying a price for that today. Who knows?

PB: Do you follow local football?

JW: There is no local football. You can’t name five national footballers on the national team at this point in time.

PB: Kevin Molino…

JW: I said five… I was heartened to read that the secondary league had a nice final on Wednesday and they had a big crowd.

PB: So that augurs well for football in T&T?

JW: For the secondary football league, not for football in T&T

PB: Why?

JW: Because what they have to do here is what I did and succeeded years ago. Prior, you don’t get success instantly; you have instant coffee, instant cocoa, you don’t have instant football. You have to go build. I began building at an early age – (Russell) Latapy, Dwight Yorke and these guys. I had CONCACAF youth tournaments here like crazy. I built a base of youth footballers and at that point in time, therefore I built a cadre of them and they were able to face a World Cup.

You can’t go and hope to find a (Columbus Crew midfielder Kevin) Molino here and Molino there and anywhere that is hit and miss. And it does not work that way.

And that is why you see football wouldn’t rise in here in a hurry.

PB: The difference now than in 2006 when T&T made it to a World Cup?

JW: Chalk and chesse. Guys today can’t trap a ball, and asking you, ‘how much you will pay me’. Guys today cannot pass a ball and asking you what you have to give them. What do you tell them? There is no pro league in this country. There is no national league in this country. There is no inter-league in this country.

PB: What are your thoughts on the Ascension League?

JW: I don’t know enough about them to speak on them. I see a headline now and again but I don’t read on football. So I don’t know much about them, but if they were successful to me they would have been more effective. They would have been as effective as the secondary schools football league is now.

PB: And the Normalisation Committee that FIFA has in place?

JW: I think that FIFA has done a disservice to the country. The guys who were in power should not have been removed. They did that to spite Jack Warner and thought that in a way they would have hurt me. They haven’t hurt me one bit, they hurt football in T&T.

I am disheartened to see that nobody in the media or in authority had spoken out strongly against this disservice done to this country.

But again this is how we are as a people, anything foreign is good and if foreigners put the committee there, then so bet it.

PB: What about the Netflix movie on you and FIFA coming out next month?

JW: On FIFA not on me. I will be involved in it they say. It doesn’t interest me.

PB: You won’t look at it?

JW: It doesn’t interest me. I stop looking at football. I say to Netflix, ‘get a life.’ But if they believe that that will help them to make some money go ahead.

Four years ago, a fella called Andrew Jennings wrote a book called Foul, just before the World Cup where is he today? He’s dead.

Netflix is… doing a movie on FIFA and Jack Warner. Four years from now look and see where they’ll be. I doesn’t bother me.

I have insulated myself from criticism from football, if not I would have been dead already. So it doesn’t worry me. I won’t watch it and I don’t even want to hear about it.

PB: Is it that how you get along now?

JW: That is correct. I live deliberately in a kind of cocoon. I have internally migrated, for want of a better term, and therefore these things don’t worry me anymore.

A headline in the papers on Jack Warner used to worry me long time. But it doesn’t worry me anymore. I guy attacked me on social media it does not worry me anymore.

PB: Are you on social media?

JW: No I’m not on social media not on Facebook.

PB: Basdeo Panday, Patrick Manning, Kamla Persad-Bissessar and Dr Keith Rowley. Who’s the best?

The best was Basdeo Panday.

PB: Why?

JW: Basdeo Panday was the first Indian prime minister. He came in at a time when this country had no money. He came in at a time when the oil (price) was at its lowest. And if one was to sit down and look objectively at what he had achieved during that period then they would have nothing else but good things to say about him…

Look at his achievements, look at how many police stations he built, look at the scholarships he gave. Look at the man who gave free education to all, that was Panday.

But, the worst prime minister this country has ever seen is Keith Rowley. And don’t ask me why. There is nothing good I can say about him and my grandmother told me that if you can’t say good don’t say bad.

Rowley is the worst thing to happen to this country.

And you know what is sad. Manning called me in his home. He and I weren’t good friends. He called me to his home. Prior, I swear to you this morning…

PB: When was that?

JW: A month before he died. He asked to see me. I went to his home. He sent out his wife and children. He had a Bible on his leg and his hand was kind of flicking and so on, turning the pages. He asked me, he begged me never to allow Rowley and (Colm) Imbert rule this country. I told him, ‘yes sir, I agree with you, by why didn’t you stop them in their tracks when you had to go up for election.’ He said if he had done that, there would have been a revolution in the PNM. I said okay sir.

You know something. Three or four months after when Kamla called election, I supported Rowley. I helped Rowley, he could say what he wants, I did.

PB: Why?

JW: Because Kamla had hurt me. She had hurt me passionately and of course the things she said about me in the Chaguanas West bye-election, the things she said about me even after pains me and pains me still. Of course, I don’t care what anybody say, I contributed in making Kamla what she eventually became.

PB: Have you spoken to her since?

JW: No I haven’t.

PB: Would you forgive her?

Yes sure. I was bitter in those days but right now I am not bitter.

PB: Would you support her now against Rowley?

JW: Well actually she is the lesser of the two evils and surely I would. Rowley is bad news…

There are over 6,000 students who would graduate from university at (a function) at the Centre of Excellence this week.

Where would they get jobs? Where would they work? On top of that you are telling me now that you are going to move the retirement age from 60 to 65. So how these guys coming into the system? Who would they replace.? And therefore what would these young people do?

If I were a young person in this country I would head north, not USA, but Canada, Toronto. There is no hope for young people in this country as it is at present.

And I am not saying that because I am bitter but I am saying it because I am pragmatic, I am realistic.

There is no middle class in this country. Poverty is rampant and of course with poverty crime. What do you do?

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Re: The Jack Warner Thread.
« Reply #2718 on: November 12, 2022, 04:53:43 PM »
Hislop, Sancho share disappointment in Warner in Netflix's FIFA: Uncovered
By Narissa Fraser (T&T Newsday)


FORMER T&T footballers Shaka Hislop and Brent Sancho did not hold back from sharing their disappointment in former FIFA vice president Jack Warner in Netflix's new docuseries FIFA: Uncovered.

The four-episode series extensively covers allegations of corruption in the world governing body for football. It was released on Wednesday.

Sancho praised Warner – or what he thought him to be – saying that in the Caribbean, there's a "post-Jack and a pre-Jack (era)."

The pre-Jack era, he said, most "went about their business on their own...Twenty-five countries reporting back to Concacaf and FIFA.

"When Jack came in, he united the Caribbean and he gave every single Caribbean nation –whether you're small as Turks and Caicos or as big as Cuba – a sense of belonging."

He added that Warner "believed that the Caribbean should be hosting World Cups. He believed that anything that Europe gets or Africa gets or Asia gets, that the Caribbean should get as well."

He said Warner had a "very powerful hand" in T&T football.

"Nothing happened without him."

The docuseries also featured clips of the T&T squad that qualified for the 2006 FIFA World Cup in Germany – which included Hislop as goalkeeper and Sancho as a defender.

Hislop recalled fond memories of those times, but also spoke about financial negotiations with Warner.

"Jack made all the decisions around our football for quite some time. He wanted to have influence on people's careers."

Sancho recalled players having a meeting with Warner at which they asked for a "70/30 split for the commercial revenues that were derived from the World Cup."

He said they were all shocked when Warner agreed, especially as he was such a "powerful" man.

A qualification bonus was also discussed where they agreed on a 50/50 split.

But after this, "Everything started to go downhill," Sancho said.

During their World Cup run, Sancho said he began to see deductions for accommodation in Austria and Germany, and airfare, among other things, being deducted from their commercial revenue.

Sancho said, "All the trust and all the faith that we had in Mr Warner went immediately out the door, because how dare you take away our only moment we had of joy playing in the biggest sporting occasion?

"It felt like that ripped that away from us."

He said after T&T's World Cup run ended, a coach called him and said he'd like to recruit him but couldn't, because: "You are blacklisted. We're not allowed to pick any of the guys that's involved in the bonus dispute."

Hislop said there's still around $100 million "that is totally and completely unaccounted for.

"Jack never really had to account for where that money went."

In 2014, the T&T government agreed to pay the 2006 World Cup squad the outstanding US$1.3 million owed to them.

During his tenure at FIFA, Warner was accused of racketeering, wire fraud, money laundering, and bribery, and allegedly accepted millions of dollars in bribes to ensure South Africa became World Cup hosts in 2010.

Former FIFA officials recalled other countries who wished to host the 2010 World Cup giving "royal treatment" to Warner and his colleagues, but to no avail.

The docuseries also showed the late South African President Nelson Mandela's visit to T&T, which interviewees believed was a further "PR stunt" for people to favour Warner.

Former FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke said in 2007, he learnt a $10 million payment was to be made to the CFU (Caribbean Football Union) and Warner by South Africa to "fund the African diaspora in the Caribbean.

"There was a lot of pressure from Jack Warner to proceed with the payments," he said.

In May 2011 at a Concacaf congress ahead of FIFA's presidential elections, then FIFA president Joseph “Sepp” Blatter awarded a $1 million development grant to Concacaf – which was then headed by Warner.

Former US Soccer Federation president Sunil Gulati said, "It was about as blatant as one could be in terms of, you know, 'Let me give you a gift for your region, Mr Warner, in front of all your members 30 or 60 days before an election."

Warner then held another congress at the Hyatt Regency in Port of Spain at which another FIFA presidential candidate Mohamed Bin Hammam spoke.

But after Hammam's presentation, the heads of all football federations in Concacaf were invited somewhere to collect "a gift."

The gifts were envelopes with some $40,000 inside.

Many took the money but others refused and reported it.

Bin Hammam would later withdraw from the presidential race and Warner was suspended over allegations of bribery. Warner eventually resigned and FIFA banned him from any involvement in football for life.

Newsday contacted Warner before the release of the docuseries but he said he was not interested in it.

"I'm not aware of it and I don't want to be aware of it.

"It doesn't really interest me," he said.
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« Reply #2719 on: November 17, 2022, 11:43:13 AM »
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« Reply #2720 on: November 17, 2022, 09:06:33 PM »
Warner promises to continue challenging legality of US extradition request 
By Derek Aching (T&T Guardian)


Five Law Lords of the United Kingdom-based Privy Council have dismissed former FIFA executive and T&T government minister Jack Warner's final appeal over the dismissal of his lawsuit challenging the United States (US) extradition request for him.

Lords Hodge, Briggs, Hamblen, Burrows, and Sir Declan Morgan delivered their decision in the appeal earlier today, after hearing submissions from lawyers representing Warner and the Office of the Attorney General at the UK's Supreme Court in London, England, earlier this year.

In its decision, the Board dismissed all four grounds raised by Warner in the appeal as it upheld consistent decisions from the local High Court and Court of Appeal.

It ruled that this country’s extradition treaty with the US did not contradict the Extradition (Commonwealth and Foreign Territories) Act. It also ruled that former Attorney General Faris Al Rawi did not act unfairly in his handling of the US extradition request for Warner.

The decision in the appeal clears the way for extradition proceedings before Chief Magistrate Maria Busby-Earle-Caddle, which were put on hold as Warner was pursuing his civil litigation, to resume.

In a statement issued a short while ago, Warner said he would continue to challenge the legality of the proposed extradition.

"I continue to have confidence in my team led by Fyard Hosein Senior Counsel, and I have advised them to continue to press my case on the three remaining stages of these proceedings. I have lived in this country for nearly eighty years, and I am confident that I will continue to receive the love, affection, and respect that people from all walks of life have always extended to me. I am certain I will prevail in the end," Warner said.

Warner, a former FIFA vice-president, is accused of 12 charges related to fraud, racketeering and engaging in illegal wire transfers.

The offences are alleged to have taken place in the United States, T&T and other jurisdictions between 1990 and June 2011 when Warner quit FIFA.

He is one of several senior executives of world football’s governing body who were indicted on a series of charges after an investigation into corruption in football, conducted by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Department of Justice (DOJ).

Several of his former colleagues have pleaded guilty to the charges and have been sentenced.
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« Reply #2721 on: November 17, 2022, 10:46:59 PM »
At some point, TT politicians must pay for their irresponsible ways. I have never heard of a politician in TT going to jail or having property seized for misdemeanors. Paying lawyers one set ah money knowing full well nothing eh happening. And all of us calling the kettle black. Ah hear a lot of people saying why the US must exert power to get Jack. This time is an exception. Only the small fries does get ketch. Mr. Big always walking free.

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« Reply #2723 on: November 18, 2022, 02:45:04 PM »
Football stakeholders: Warner did a lot for Trinidad and Tobago football
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Newsday)


FORMER Strike Squad captain Clayton Morris and former Soca Warriors manager Bruce Aanensen are both saddened, but not surprised, that former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner has lost his challenge to his extradition to the United States to face fraud-related charges. Morris and Aanensen reflected on what Warner meant to Trinidad and Tobago football, saying he contributed to its growth.

On Thursday, five Privy Council judges – Lords Hodge, Briggs, Hamblem, Burrows, and Sir Declan Morgan – delivered their decision on Warner’s challenge. The Privy Council held the request for Warner’s extradition was not unfair.

The decision came just days before the 2022 FIFA World Cup kicks off in Qatar on Sunday. A lot of controversies surrounded the selection of Qatar as World Cup hosts, including bribery, corruption and how construction workers were treated in building stadiums for the event.

The decision on Thursday also came a week after Netflix released the documentary FIFA Uncovered, which highlighted the allegations of corruption in the world football body.

“It is always sad when you hear these things about another human being and more so somebody who has been part of your development…as a youth you look towards senior people,” Morris said. “I remember as a youth struggling on the Under-19 (TT) team and you hear this name Jack Warner. It was an honour and a privilege to meet this individual in person.”

Morris said it’s unfortunate Warner may have made some wrong decisions.

“Mr Warner has contributed to the person I am today…getting the news this morning (Thursday), I also felt a sort of sadness, a sort of sympathy. At the same time, I remember my Granny saying however you make up your bed is how you expect to sleep…you have to live your life with the end in mind. He has to know what he was involved in. So then he has to know what is expected of him now as he is faced with this situation.”

According to the US charge sheet against him, Warner is accused of racketeering, wire fraud, money laundering, and bribery; and allegedly, from the early 1990s, he “began to leverage his influence and exploit his official positions for personal gain.”

He also allegedly accepted a million-dollar bribe from South African officials in return for voting to award them the 2010 World Cup and allegedly bribed officials with envelopes of cash. Warner, who was also head of Concacaf, was banned from all football activities for life by FIFA.

Aanensen, the Soca Warriors team manager at the 2006 World Cup in Germany, said, “This is very unfortunate. My view is that Jack has done a tremendous amount of good for TT football.”

Aanensen was not shocked by the news.

“It is not surprising, given all the things we have heard about FIFA over the years and how they operate. It is sad that a man like Jack, who has put his whole life into football, at 79 years old, he is being pulled before the courts and he could well go to prison. It is not a nice thought at all. Even if people...may feel he is guilty, you still need to feel a sense of sympathy for the fella. He gave his life to football, at the end of the day.”

Aanensen said Warner helped develop football in the Caribbean.

“It is only when Jack got in there that he got a lot of football played in the Caribbean and the Concacaf area, which clearly would have improved the standard of football in the Concacaf area. In that regard, he lifted the standard of football by using his influence to get big tournaments in the Caribbean.”

Aanensen does not think Warner’s situation will affect TT football moving forward.

“I don’t think it is going to have any significant impact on TT football…he has been out of it for quite some time, and this is really a FIFA-related matter…it is not a Trinidad issue as such. It is more a Concacaf and FIFA issue.”

Morris said he will continue to wish Warner the best.
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« Reply #2724 on: November 20, 2022, 12:40:58 AM »
Warner told to face US court if innocent.
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian).


Embattled former vice president of FIFA Jack Warner is being told to prove his innocence ahead of extradition proceedings for which he seems to have exhausted all his options.

The US has charged Warner with 29 offences of fraud, corruption and money laundering and is seeking to have him extradited to face the courts there. Warner has since challenged the legality of the charges before being dealt a severe blow on Thursday when the Privy Council in the United Kingdom, the country’s highest court of appeal, rejected his attorneys’ argument that the extradition proceedings were unlawful.

Warner later issued a statement to prove his innocence and vowed to keep up his fight against the extradition. However, friends here ordered Warner, also a former Caribbean Football Union (CFU) and CONCACAF president, to prove his innocence. Former national head coach Edgar Vidale, a winner of this country’s third highest award, who met Warner as a vibrant and inspiring young administrative talent, said he was not taking sides.

Vidale, however, believes the Privy Council has made the right decision.

“I was as close to Warner as anybody would have gotten, but I do not agree that he should evade what is happening now. If what he is saying is true, that he did not commit any crime against the USA, then why don’t you go to the USA and fight it and prove it to the world? Why are you trying to evade them? He knows he can’t do it,” Vidale said.

“Let us get him to take away the dirty mass that Trinidad has through what is suggested as his sin against everybody—FIFA etc.”

Vidale earlier delivered an almost glowing account of Warner as an administrator, saying he made tremendous sacrifices for him and for the sport in T&T including calling then-president Sir Ellis Clarke at midnight to help the team get tickets for a CONCACAF tournament in the USA many years ago.

He noted also that Warner ascended to positions of great power in T&T football because other people in positions of authority, inclusive of former president Oliver Camps, did not do what they were supposed to do.

“And this man had the energy to do it for them, he did everything, until they relied on him, so actually, they gave him the power that he had.

“And when he realised that he had that kind of power, he became the man, he was the man in charge of everything and he did things that I couldn’t understand how he did it,” Vidale explained.

Meanwhile, Brent Sancho, the former national defender who rose to world fame when his dreadlocks were pulled by lanky English striker Peter Crouch during a clash between T&T and England during the 2006 World Cup in Germany, told Guardian Media that not even extradition would be the ultimate judge for Warner, but rather when he met his maker.

Quizzed on the assistance provided by Warner in increasing the number of teams in the CONCACAF region now going to the World Cup instead of just one, as well as the help rendered to several players in T&T, Sancho said: “You can look at that, but then you can also look at what the residual impact was. Because of some of the stuff that was done, it has now left the situation in tatters. If you start itemising things and try to weigh it up, then the conversation gets very convoluted because, as much as you would say that there were good things that came out, at the same point in time there were some horrific things that impacted a lot of people, including people like myself.

But what I would say, though, is that what has transpired over that period of time has now opened eyes and minds, because within the structures and systems that people put into football, with all the deficiencies and the various things that are wrong and all the things that are good in football.

“One thing for sure, that Jack Warner, not necessarily as an individual, but what it has shown is the must for the CFU (Caribbean Football Union) to stick together for the betterment of football in the Caribbean, and not just for personal gain or anything like that, but for the betterment of football because when we are not, as we have seen over the past couple of years, you can see a decline.”

Sancho claimed that his career was cut short by Warner because he asked a question.

Valentino Singh, ex-sports journalist and editor, shared a personal relationship with Warner and offered this comment:

“There are two sides of Jack Warner that are confronting T&T—a Robin Hood who shared his spoils with the people of Trinidad and Tobago and now an embattled former FIFA executive on 12 charges related to fraud, racketeering, and illegal wire transfers, facing possible extradition to the United States to answer these charges.

“It’s an indication of what his life was all about,” said the former Guardian Media Ltd sports editor who authored two books on the former football administrator–Upwards: The Biography of Austin Jack Warner and Jack Warner: Zero to Hero.

The former high-ranking FIFA executive, politician and ex-national security minister under the People’s Partnership government now newspaper publisher and businessman, Warner, 79, lost the challenge to his extradition at the Privy Council last Thursday.

There have been mixed responses to Warner’s predicament.

“In talking to people in T&T, looking at social media, I am not surprised at the kinds of things that I’m seeing. There are a lot of mixed messages. Trinidadians love to hate,” Singh lamented.

Referring to Warner as a man who has “done things for the downtrodden,” Singh said, “There was a period in our life where everyone wanted to be associated with Warner, whether it was as him a politician, as a charitable businessman or football administrator.”

Singh said that sometimes the politics of this country influences how people think rather than a situation, but he said that he got to know Warner better by doing his biography.

“There’s a softer side of him where he does things with a good heart. He likes to help people. However, it does not exclude what happened with FIFA.”

FIFA banned Warner from all football-related activities for life in 2015, but Singh said the allegations of corruption during his tenure at FIFA should not be blamed on Warner personally but should be attributed to the organisation’s weak management and auditing structures.

“You have a group of men who got together to manage an organisation in which there were no oversight and accountability mechanisms in place to prevent them from when the temptation came from finding themselves in the situation they found themselves. Now, Warner has found himself possibly extradited to America.

“The culture of FIFA was a free for all. If you wanted to do something to benefit you personally, there was nothing that prevented you from that.

“Of course, that is no excuse for dishonesty or corruption,” Singh said.

Singh defended Warner’s contribution as a businessman, football administrator and politician to T&T, the region and football over the last few decades.

“Many times these positions overlapped. I’m saying that you have to take the good with the bad. You can’t say that he has done no good for T&T and the Caribbean.”

Singh contrasted the state of T&T’s football today to the era in which Warner played a pivotal role in the sport’s development and concluded that “football in T&T is now dead.”

“Right now, T&T does not even have a proper football league. How many of our players are being exhibited internationally? When Warner was in charge every Monday morning you heard a T&T player getting an opportunity outside T&T for professional football like Dwight Yorke and Russell Latapy.”

Giving examples of Warner’s contribution to football in T&T, he said, “Let’s look at the Secondary Schools Football League. The places where football matches used to be like the National Stadium and Skinner Park, all of these places are now rundown. But they’re now playing at the Ato Boldon Stadium and Dwight Yorke Stadium and stadiums that Warner built. There is a residual effect of the things he did which were good.”

Singh also questioned the lack of will and patriotism of the country to keep Warner from being extradited to the US.

“There are other people in other countries being hunted by the FBI, but they have received protection from their respective countries. In T&T, we have not stood behind Warner. If he committed all the crimes that they say he committed, why is he not tried as a citizen here in T&T? Why is America picking him up and carrying him for something he did as a T&T national? The courts in T&T should be the ones running behind him and hunting him down. All other countries protect their citizens,” he said.

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« Reply #2725 on: November 20, 2022, 10:50:28 AM »
I just want to know what flight dey taking him on.  So ah could reach Piarco with a big red panty to wave him off!!

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« Reply #2726 on: November 23, 2022, 01:30:31 AM »
Looking forward to doing the biopic on Jack in the coming year..

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« Reply #2727 on: November 24, 2022, 05:14:37 PM »
Looking forward to doing the biopic on Jack in the coming year..

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« Reply #2728 on: December 06, 2022, 06:24:44 PM »
Jack Warner's wife to remain in US$37m Concacaf lawsuit over Centre of Excellence
By Jada Loutoo (T&T Newsday)


MAUREEN WARNER, wife of ex-Concacaf president Jack Warner and two of the family’s companies will join her husband and others in a US$37.8 million lawsuit against them over the ownership of the Dr Joao Havelange Centre of Excellence.

Mrs Warner, Renraw Investments Ltd and CCAM and Company Ltd sought to have Concacaf’s lawsuit against them struck out on the basis that it did not apply to them, as they had no fiduciary duty to the regional football body and the claims were statute-barred, since they related to facts dating back to 1995-2011, when the lawsuit was filed in 2016.

However, in a ruling on Monday, Justice Robin Mohammed dismissed the application by the three. He also set February 2 for a case-management conference so that directions can be given to progress the matter to trial.

In the claim, Concacaf contends that Warner, his wife and the companies were involved in a conspiracy to misappropriate Concacaf funds which were allocated to construct the facility, by misrepresenting that the facility was actually owned by Concacaf.

Concacaf also listed accountant Kenny Rampersad and his company as parties to the claim, as it contended that he had a conflict of interest by serving as the accountant for both Concacaf and the companies.

Rampersad contended that he provided secretarial services to the companies and claimed he did not owe Concacaf any fiduciary duty, as he merely served as an auditor.

In defence of the claim, Warner, who served as Concacaf president between 1990 and 2011, said he could not recall facts surrounding the deal, owing to Concacaf's delay in bringing the claim. He also denied that he and his wife had a controlling interest in the companies and challenged the arrangement as he denied that he misappropriated funds.

Mrs Warner contended she was never involved in the financing of the project.

Concacaf also filed similar proceedings against Warner in the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York.

In July 2019, Concacaf obtained a US$20 million default judgment against Warner after he failed to attend hearings of the case or send legal representation.

Judge William F c**tz entered judgement against Warner, who is facing extradition to the US in a separate criminal case.

Last month, Warner lost his challenge to his extradition to face a barrage of charges of racketeering, wire fraud, money laundering, and bribery; and allegedly, from the early 1990s, he "began to leverage his influence and exploit his official positions for personal gain."

He also allegedly accepted a million-dollar bribe from South African officials in return for voting to award them the 2010 World Cup, and allegedly bribed officials with envelopes of cash.

In its US lawsuit, Concacaf alleged Warner victimised the body, stealing and defrauding it out of tens of millions of dollars in brazen acts of corruption. It sought US$20 million in compensatory damages and unspecified punitive damages, which included the cost of the Centre of Excellence, in Macoya, which is also the focus of the separate claim before Mohammed.

The lucrative property features a swimming complex, restaurants, a hotel, conference facilities, a gym and the Marvin Lee Stadium.

Issues over ownership of the property arose after Concacaf instituted an investigation into Warner and former president Chuck Blazer. That investigation was three years before the two were implicated in the US investigations into corruption at Fifa, for which Warner has been indicted by a grand jury.

Warner and the companies were represented by Senior Counsel Fyard Hosein, Sasha Bridgemohansingh and Anil Maraj. Rishi Dass and Maria Narinesingh are representing Warner's wife. Concacaf was represented by Jonathan Walker and Cherie Gopie.
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« Reply #2729 on: December 06, 2022, 06:44:46 PM »
Looking forward to doing the biopic on Jack in the coming year..

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