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#1 International Striker in the World Cup
« on: January 20, 2006, 07:18:58 AM »
Clear up something... Am I to believe that Stern John will be the #1 international striker in the world cup competition this year? 
If so, on paper we have a team that could put that world cup in the Centre of Excellence....  Consider Stern, Dwight, Latas, Edwards, Whitely, Andrews, Larwrence, and I dear say Birchall....  hmmm... like we paper just as good as England's paper.... ;D
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2006, 07:38:15 AM »
Give we some more info dey 1989....
Where de info come from ? 

I read a headline in some British post that say Stern was the leading WC '06 scorer (checking prelims I suppose)...couldn't get to the meat of the story bc it was erased from the site.  Wonder if is that yuh talking about ?  Or that Stern is the best right now ?
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 07:44:39 AM »
1989...........

#1 Striker in the World Cup is

Ronaldo
Henry
Svechenko
Borgetti( prolific Concacaf striker, scored a Wicked Header in WC in ??)


I have a huge number of strikers at the World Cup. As pardners say "We need lil more info". Cause I eh know where this article come from..............And my answr is No , Stern will not be the #1 international striker.

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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006, 07:58:22 AM »
http://www.rsssf.com/tables/2006q-scor.html

Scorers
 
 14 – Jared Francisco BORGETTI Echavarría (Mexico),

 12 – Stern JOHN (Trinidad and Tobago),

 11 – PAULETA - Pedro Miguel Carreiro Rezende (Portugal), Jamie Arturo LOZANO Espin (Mexico),
      Emmanuel Shéyi ADÉBAYOR (Togo), 

 10 – RONALDO - Luis Nazario de Lima (Brazil), Carlos Humberto RUÍZ Gutiérrez (Guatemala),
      José Francisco FONSECA Guzmán (Mexico),

  9 – Jan KOLLER (Czech Republic), Ali DAEI (Iran), Didier DROGBA (Ivory Coast)

  8 – Alexei EREMENKO (Finland), Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIC (Sweden), Obafemi MARTINS (Nigeria),

  7 – Dimitar BERBATOW (Bulgaria), Tomas ROSICKY (Czech Republic), Andres OPER (Estonia),
      Rutgerus Johannes Martinus VAN NISTELROOIJ (Netherlands), Tomasz FRANKOWSKI (Poland),
      Maciej Stanislaw ZURAWSKI (Poland), Cristiano RONALDO Santos Aveiro (Portugal),
      Adrian MUTU (Romania), FERNANDO José TORRES Sanz (Spain), Fredrik LJUNDBERG (Sweden),
      Alexander FREI (Switzerland), FATIH Tekke (Turkey), Hernán Jorge CRESPO (Argentina),
      José Saturnino CARDOZO Otazu (Paraguay), Jefferson FARFAN (Peru), John Barry NUSUM (Bermuda),
      Paulo César WANCHOPE (Costa Rica), Ian LAKE (Saint Kitts & Nevis), Edwin JOHNSON (USA),
      Landon DONOVAN (USA), Tim CAHILL (Australia), Veresa TOMA (Fiji), Aruna DINDANE (Ivory Coast),
      Henri CAMARA (Senegal)

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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2006, 09:09:47 AM »
Here is an official Fifa article.  My question is whether he is  the #1 not of the competition leading up to the final, but #1 scorer in international appearances for his team.  But the article doesn't tell where the statistics source is.  http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/051109/1/57h7.html
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2006, 12:26:11 PM »
I think the article generally has Stern as the #1 T&T striker, because the WC stats show Borgetti as most WC goals
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2006, 05:35:01 AM »
I think the article generally has Stern as the #1 T&T striker, because the WC stats show Borgetti as most WC goals

The article states that Stern John is 13 goals shy of Pele's record.
Here's the article in full:


It could almost be a quiz question designed to confuse any football fan: 'Which player, currently playing his club football in England, but not in the Premiership, has scored more international goals than Ronaldo, Gabriel Batistuta, Bobby Charlton and Jurgen Klinsmann?'

The answer can be found at Derby County Football Club and their striker Stern John, currently on loan from Coventry City. The 31-year old has scored 64 goals in 89 matches for Trinidad and Tobago and is just 13 goals away from equalling the legendary Pele's tally. But now the charismatic John has Bahrain and a FIFA World Cup™ appearance in his sights – and fans in Port of Spain will be praying he adds to his goals' total against the Asian hopefuls.

FIFAworldcup.com: Your scoring record for T&T is phenomenal – when you made your international debut nearly ten years ago did you think you’d score this many goals?
Stern John: No, but I wanted to! As a striker you love scoring goals, you want to score goals and I believed in my own ability. But I didn't think that I would score this amount. To be honest, I haven't really paid attention to the number of goals I have scored, until I was coming up to the record. But I didn't know how close I was to Pele's total until this interview. That's awesome! That's something that every player would like to do, but feel that they couldn't because Pele is such a legend.

How does it feel to be T&T's record goalscorer?
A goalscoring record is something that no one can take away from you. It's something that I am proud of, it's something that my family and friends are proud of and the joy that I feel right now will be increased providing we qualify for the World Cup. Being Trinidad and Tobago's record goalscorer is an honour, a great honour and it is something that I will cherish throughout my career and for the rest of my life.

It must be great to play in a side that create so many chances for you?
It is. We are a great team when we go forward because we have a lot of skilful players and players who do well whenever they have the ball at their feet. They make it easy for me to put the ball in the back of the net. Sometimes, I feel a little bit harsh on the other players: I get all the glory for scoring, but the guys who I'm playing with are doing most of the hard work for me.

How crucial has the return of Russell Lapaty been for T&T?
He and his return have been very, very important for us. We were struggling to create chances before he came into the team and that put a lot of pressure on myself to make the most of the opportunities I found myself in. Russell can not only create chances, but he can score goals as well, so it is no surprise that the team have been doing better since he has come back.

What's it like playing with Dwight Yorke?
He is a top man. He is one of the best players that I have played with or played against. I think he is still one of the best finishers in the world. He is a great professional who works really hard and he always goes about his job properly. It's great to play alongside him, we have a good understanding and I would like to think that our partnership works well for the team.

How did you feel when you missed the penalty against Mexico in the final qualifier?
Thanks for reminding me! No one would have wanted to be in my boots after that miss. My boots didn't even want to be my boots after that. I felt awful. But I had to put it to the back of my mind quickly and get over it. When you take a penalty you either score or miss. Sounds simple, doesn't it, but the emotions you feel are really powerful. On this occasion, the keeper made a good save and I just had to dig myself out of the hole I wanted to put myself in. To come back and score two goals after the penalty miss and win the game shows the character that we have in this side.


Are you confident going into the play-offs with Bahrain?
Yes we are confident. We don't know much about Bahrain, we are just focusing on ourselves. We don't want to take Bahrain too lightly. It's a massive game for both countries but there is no question of us underestimating them. We do think we are a better team than they are – but now we have to go out there and prove it.

Would you say you were favourites?
I think the general footballing world would consider us as favourites, but in a play-off situation, anything can happen. It's just two games, it's about who wants it more. Now we have to stay focused, forget about all the distractions and the feelings of excitement about playing at a World Cup – we just have to get there by beating Bahrain.

Would you have preferred to play the second leg at home?
Yes, I would have done. In truth, you always want to play the second leg at home, despite what other players and coaches may say. The first game is very important. It sets the tone for the second match. Personally I would have loved to qualify in Trinidad. It is something that we have been trying to do for decades; we came so close in 1989 – we only needed a point and we lost the game against the USA, so that's left a bitter taste in the mouth. However, I suppose that the most important thing is not where we qualify, but qualification itself.

What difference has coach Leo Beenhakker made to the team?
Leo has made a massive difference. He and his staff came in and set their stall out by telling us what they wanted to achieve and how they were going to do it. The players understand him; he understands the players and I think he has done brilliantly. He has been a great influence for me. When I was going through a bit of a drought, he kept his faith in me when the fans didn't and that is something that I will never forget. His appointment has been great for the team and for the country.

Do you think you would have been in this position without him?
I don't think so. When he came in he made a lot of changes and I think we needed that. A lot of the players were too comfortable under the old regime, but now different players have been brought in and we are trying different things. He has tested us and brought the best out of us.

And finally, just how far are T&T away from challenging the United States, Mexico and Costa Rica in the CONCACAF region?
I can see us challenging them and perhaps overtaking them. We have players who are working in the world's top leagues – players just as good as the Costa Rica, Mexico and the USA. What we have to do now is stick together as a team, work hard and keep our discipline. That is the most important thing, especially on the pitch. The USA don't really have a star player – they are just a very good team. We have to copy their example. But if we qualify for the World Cup, things are only going to get better for us.
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2006, 07:44:39 AM »
Stern Has like 68 goals in the 90 something games he has played for TnT all time.

So in terms of amount of goals he has more than any other striker in the world cup. (except the guy from Iran  Al Deai who has over 100 goals)

Ronaldo has like 50 something

Borgetti has like 38

So this is what the are talking about I think.

Looking back Stern could feel real proud as to what he has done over the years in terms of scoring goals for TnT

 

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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2006, 11:16:38 AM »
Stern Has like 68 goals in the 90 something games he has played for TnT all time.

So in terms of amount of goals he has more than any other striker in the world cup. (except the guy from Iran  Al Deai who has over 100 goals)

Ronaldo has like 50 something

Borgetti has like 38

So this is what the are talking about I think.

Looking back Stern could feel real proud as to what he has done over the years in terms of scoring goals for TnT

 

Wow that's great.  So I guess that he will be the #1 striker to enter this year's World Cup after all (provided that Benhakker picks him, which should be the case).

Let's hope that he will make England weary in the game.

But where can I find these statistics?  I was searching the fifa website and found nothing.
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2006, 12:34:58 PM »
Wow that's great.  So I guess that he will be the #1 striker to enter this year's World Cup after all (provided that Benhakker picks him, which should be the case).

Let's hope that he will make England weary in the game.

But where can I find these statistics?  I was searching the fifa website and found nothing.

There are many sources on the net, just google it.

HERE IS the wikipedia list for all-time top scorers for a country (only the top ten listed)

The RSSF also has a more comprehensive list HERE
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Re: #1 International Striker in the World Cup
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2006, 01:08:23 PM »
There are many sources on the net, just google it.

HERE IS the wikipedia list for all-time top scorers for a country (only the top ten listed)

The RSSF also has a more comprehensive list HERE

Thanks for the link.  What I noticed is that all of those other players are out of action, except the one with 109 goals.  So hopefully, before he retires, Stern will top the list... hopefully...
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