Author Topic: Finally !! Souness Sacked !! (Read 4087 times)

spideybuff · « **on:** February 02, 2006, 07:08:17 AM »

That guy is such crap, he ruin Yorke career he mash up Newcastle after all the work Bobby Robson did and he always trying to play badman against the club players, no wonder they could never perform under him. Just look at where Blackburn is now that he gone? And look at where Newcastle reach since he come ! He almost force me to change my pic at the side there, but I not no waggonist. I sticking by my side even when they playing shite and ppl jumping on the ManBoo and Chelski train cause they winning.

They shoulda fire him since last year when he sell Bellamy and Bowyer and Dyer fight with each other on the field under his regime...

Meanwhile yorkie going to the World Cup while he go and joing the unemployment line...effing wanker, hopes he never gets another job.

KND2 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:25:54 AM »

dont let your emotions cloud your judgement.

He is not that bad as a manager.

This side is been overated for the last decade and they have the worst injury record.

Their best players are always hurt.

Dwyer is a prime example

Now owen following the same boat.

They performed well once owen is on the field.

Souness is not the issue.

They need to sell of 95% of the players and rebuild around owen.

JDB · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:29:41 AM »

Quote from: spideybuff on February 02, 2006, 07:08:17 AM

I sticking by my side even when they playing shite and ppl jumping on the ManBoo and Chelski train cause they winning.

I guess start jumping on the United wagon over 50 years ago, cause that is the last time Newcastle was successful.

But yuh right though Souness is in a mess, won't change much at Newcastle however because the people who hire hime still there.

Touches · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:45:14 AM »

JDB Newcastle win the Premiership a few years back man about 6-8 years ago check it.

They have had success in the last 10 years.

Touches · « **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:49:14 AM »

Correction they ent win.they come 2nd and 3rd

Ok jdb

Jayerson · « **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:51:21 AM »

The man was a good player but a poor manager. He had very old school management style that can't work with modern players especially those that aren't from Britain.

Andre · « **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:57:47 AM »

souness' track record as a manager speaks for itself.

Graeme Souness factbox

Feb 2 (Reuters) - Following is a factbox on Graeme Souness, who was sacked as manager of Newcastle United on Thursday.

1953 - Born Edinburgh, May 6.

1969 - Becomes apprentice at Tottenham Hotspur.

1970 - Turns professional at Spurs but complains of homesickness and returns to Scotland without appearing in first team.

1973 - Joins second division Middlesbrough where he develops into superb all-round midfielder, tough in the tackle with a great pass. Helps them to promotion in 1973-74 going on to make 176 league appearances for the club.

1974 - Makes debut for Scotland in 3-0 win over East Germany at Hampden Park.

1978 - Joins Liverpool for 350,000 pounds ($614,300) winning three European Cups, five league titles, four League Cups and making 247 appearances for the club.

Plays for Scotland 1978 World Cup finals and again in 1982 finals. Scots fail to progress beyond the first round in either tournament.

1984 - Moves to Italy with Sampdoria for 650,000 pounds.

1986 - Makes last appearance for Scotland (54 caps in all) against West Germany in World Cup finals in Mexico, another first-stage exit.

Returns from Italy to Britain as player-manager of Scottish side Rangers. Is sent off 35 minutes into his debut.

Leads Rangers to three league titles.

1991 - Becomes Liverpool manager, taking over from former Anfield and Scotland team mate Kenny Dalglish.

1992 - Liverpool win FA Cup, Souness has triple heart bypass operation.

1993 - Leaves Liverpool after club's worst season in 30 years.

1995 - Becomes coach of Turkish club Galatasaray. Wins in Turkish cup final but is sacked after one season.

1996 - Joins Southampton as manager in July.

1997 - May: Resigns from Southampton after one season.

June - Signs two-year contract to coach second division Italian club Torino.

October - Replaced as Torino coach. Takes over at Benfica on three-year contract.

1999 - Leaves Benfica after club fails to qualify for Champions League.

2000 - Appointed manager of Blackburn Rovers.

2001 - Guides them back into the Premier League in his first full season in charge.

2002 - Rovers win League Cup.

2004 - Resigns as Blackburn manager to take charge at Newcastle in September.

2005 - Newcastle finish 14th - their worst in the Premier League - and lose 4-1 to Manchester United in the FA Cup semi-finals.

August: Newcastle pick up just two points from their first five Premier League matches of the new season, scoring just one goal.

Souness spends club record 17 million pounds ($30.16 million) on England striker Michael Owen from Real Madrid.

2006 - Wednesday's 3-0 league defeat at Manchester City is Newcastle's third in a row and 11th of the season, leaving them in 15th place, just six points above the relegation zone.

The following day the club announce that Souness's contract has been terminated with immediate effect.

Cantona007 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:13:18 AM »

Quote from: Jayerson on February 02, 2006, 07:51:21 AM

The man was a good player but a poor manager. He had very old school management style that can't work with modern players especially those that aren't from Britain.

I agree. It seems that with souness it was always about personality and not about football. In the end he has to be thought of as a bad manager. He could not meld different personalities into a cohesive unit and it manifest itself in the results. Pity the poor Geordie supporters though.

dombasil · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:26:40 AM »

True, Souness needed to be fired but there are serious problems at Newcastle. They cannot seem to find people who can defend. This is through Keegan, Robson, Gullit and Souness. Another is the personality of Shearer. He is untouchable and had run ins with Gullit and Robson.
While still able to shoot and score, he has long lost the ability to elude defenders, but when fit, he was undropable.Well now he is in charge.
They also need to look at the backroom staff, there seems to be always half the team out injured, not just this season but every season.

Andre · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:32:57 AM »

Quote from: dombasil on February 02, 2006, 08:26:40 AM

They cannot seem to find people who can defend.

true dat. titus bumble could use some help.

spideybuff · « **Reply #10 on:** February 02, 2006, 09:47:30 AM »

Quote from: KND2 on February 02, 2006, 07:25:54 AM

dont let your emotions cloud your judgement.

He is not that bad as a manager.

This side is been overated for the last decade and they have the worst injury record.

Their best players are always hurt.

Dwyer is a prime example

Now owen following the same boat.

They performed well once owen is on the field.

Souness is not the issue.

They need to sell of 95% of the players and rebuild around owen.

Just look at the record of the team under Bobby Robson as compared to Ruud Gullit and Souness and you could see the difference in the quality of managers...

Tenorsaw · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:28:06 AM »

Good riddance. But Newcastle need to relize that they will not win the League any time soon, and need to put themselves on a longterm track and show faith in their next manager. The fans are too restless. Souness however, is the worst manager in the PFL. He hasn't a clue as how to motivate his players. Newcastle feel they are a big club, but their trophy case is empty like old mother hubbard. They suffering from illusions of granduer.

spideybuff · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:32:58 AM »

Yeah i agree with that illusions of grandeur thing. They have barely any silverware, failures whenever they reach Europe and inconsistent performances.Newcastle is a mid-table club at best and Bobby Robson had them punching above their weight in the past few seasons. When Keegan was there, they play attractive ball but back then it had ManU and the rest..Arsenal didn't have Wenger yet, Liverpool was falling apart and Chelsea was now starting to become a side under Gullit and Vialli.

Mose · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:05:19 AM »

It was being said since last season that Souness wouldn't last long. Especially after the Bowyer-Dyer fight. Souness was brought in because Robson had lost control of the players and "there were problems in the dressing-room". It was apparently felt that what was needed was a disciplinarian to sort things out. In that sense, Souness probably wasn't a bad choice as that's his style. The problem was he didn't fit with this team and the players didn't respond well to him and once that onfield fight happened it became pretty obvious that he wasn't able to do the main thing he was brought in to do -- sort things out in the dressing-room.

Once they signed Owen, I thought he might have saved his ass but once Owen went down and they stopped scoring again I think it was inevitable. I won't shed any tears for him though. I'm sure he's well taken care of and won't be without employment for too long.

Trinimassive · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:07:46 AM »

Ah agree with Gullit though. They need give Shearer the pink slip.

He and Souness should ah been on the same bus out.

grimm01 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:32:17 AM »

wait nah, they sack the man and replace him with Glen Roeder??? the same Glen Roeder who escorted West Ham to demotion then had a heart attack/anneurism/stroke?!?!?!

the recycling of these mediocre premiership managers reminds me of the rotating T&T head coaching position pre-Leo.

Mose · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:36:00 AM »

Quote from: grimm01 on February 02, 2006, 11:32:17 AM

wait nah, they sack the man and replace him with Glen Roeder??? the same Glen Roeder who escorted West Ham to demotion then had a heart attack/anneurism/stroke?!?!?!

Chill nah man! He only dey temporarily. Dey need somebody to run de side until dey find a permanent replacement. Besides, he cyah do much worse dan Souness at dis point.

Feliziano · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:43:38 PM »

Souness was never the right man for that job..besides that..it was the Chairman and his buddies that shouldve been sacked also..imagine Newcaslel was a constant top 5 finisher last couple season..look where they now?..and Roeder temporarily in charge..steups
i really ent know why they fire John Carver..he woulda made a real good coach... a good man to pick right now is George Graham..i say bring the dinosaur back cause thats what they need..to tighten up that damn defence..Bramble ent that bad once he have somebody next to him whos good lol..selling Bellamy was a big mistake too..look what happen after he gone..no speed up front..they get Owen..the team start to attack better cause they had a fast frontman once again.
btw..wasn't Roeder manager of West Ham?..why they saying he cant stay in charge for more than 12 weeks?..is that cause he not going to be permanent?

BigToe · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2006, 01:33:52 AM »

Quote from: KND2 on February 02, 2006, 07:25:54 AM

dont let your emotions cloud your judgement.

He is not that bad as a manager.

This side is been overated for the last decade and they have the worst injury record.

Their best players are always hurt.

Dwyer is a prime example

Now owen following the same boat.

They performed well once owen is on the field.

Souness is not the issue.

They need to sell of 95% of the players and rebuild around owen.

Boss, Souness was, is and always will be a crap manager. Wish him success in the 3rd division. He's a tool.

JayTheWrecker · « **Reply #19 on:** February 03, 2006, 02:24:29 AM »

Quote from: Feliziano on February 02, 2006, 08:43:38 PM

btw..wasn't Roeder manager of West Ham?..why they saying he cant stay in charge for more than 12 weeks?..is that cause he not going to be permanent?

there are some long term health concerns about Roeder. You may recall that he had to quit as manager of West Ham to undergo a brain operation. However, he probably would have been sacked regardless because he more or less condemned West Ham to relegation in spite of the last minute heriocs by Trevor Brooking. So I don't think the Newcastle directors will be considering Roeder as a long-term solution to the club's problems

Blue · « **Reply #20 on:** February 03, 2006, 02:37:02 AM »

Souness must be glad to leave, he had a clause in his contract which meant Newcastle hadda pay him £2m if dey fire him.

spideybuff · « **Reply #21 on:** February 03, 2006, 06:41:30 AM »

Quote from: ryan on February 03, 2006, 02:37:02 AM

Souness must be glad to leave, he had a clause in his contract which meant Newcastle hadda pay him £2m if dey fire him.

I doh feel so man. The man have enough money already...his pride worth more than $2mil...and the only reason he didn't get fired at blackburn was because he leave them for Newcastle cause they were in the same postion newcastle in now, when he left them. He is crap and until he change his attitude toward players and stop trying to treat them like school children, he will always be crap. Yorke shoulda lash him when he leave scars on the man shin on purpose...

Pompey · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2006, 08:17:03 AM »

the lunch time news in teh UK is that Shearer has said he doesn't want to go into management yet and Roeder has said he doesn;t want the job long term.

The bookies reckon Martin O'Niel and Sven are the front runners.

Tenorsaw · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2006, 10:07:37 AM »

Quote from: Pompey on February 03, 2006, 08:17:03 AM

the lunch time news in teh UK is that Shearer has said he doesn't want to go into management yet and Roeder has said he doesn;t want the job long term.

The bookies reckon Martin O'Niel and Sven are the front runners.

It would be good to see him back in football. He has a knack for the game and would have access to a bigger budget than at Celtic.

spideybuff · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2006, 10:44:11 AM »

Well Freddy Sheppard had to deny that he text Sven offfering him the job last week. Sven probably say yeah so tha's why they had the balls to get rid of souness, let these 2 do the job for the rest of the season and wait til the world cup done when Sven will bring Becks back to England to team up with Owen...

PantherX · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2006, 09:52:02 PM »

Newcastle treated Bobby Robson disgracefully so they got what they deserved.

Nuff said.

Feliziano · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2006, 11:30:56 PM »

Quote from: PantherX on February 03, 2006, 09:52:02 PM

Newcastle treated Bobby Robson disgracefully so they got what they deserved.

Nuff said.

ah have to fully agree with that..time for Fat Fred tuh ride out

real-warrior · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2006, 05:00:33 PM »

he probably didnt kno how to manage his team. either that or the players had no respect for him which i think was true