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Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« on: February 12, 2006, 06:02:32 PM »

The Times    February 13, 2006

Keane takes firm grip of matters

By Matt Dickinson
WAYNE ROONEY WAS AT IBROX yesterday as a guest of Roy Keane and, if he went for a drink with his former Manchester United team-mate afterwards, he might not have known whether to congratulate or commiserate.

Celtic had won 1-0 on enemy soil to extend their impregnable lead at the top of the Bank of Scotland Premierleague and so celebrations were in order. And yet you sense that there would have been an embarrassed, awkward moment between the pair. A silence that acknowledged that, while he might be heading for a championship medal (which is more than Rooney will be clutching in May), Keane had done what so many greats of the game refuse to countenance and dropped down the leagues.

Yesterday’s tame meeting of the Old Firm was further evidence that the Irishman has found Scottish football at one of its lowest ebbs. Rangers, with their lame-duck manager, Alex McLeish, must be the worst team to have qualified for the last 16 of the European Cup. Heart of Midlothian are Celtic’s closest challengers and they have a chairman who hires a manager and then insists on picking the team.

Celtic will win the championship and yet, mindful that he has presided over defeats at home and abroad that rank among the most embarrassing in the club’s history, there is no chanting of Gordon Strachan’s name from the stands. “Keano, Keano” boomed out, of course, and he managed to be the game’s most authoritative, composed presence. Even his booking was for a premeditated trip. At his unveiling in January, he talked of “the challenge” in Scotland, but yesterday it was hard to know what that amounted to other than staying fit.

Rooney sat among the Celtic fans in the Broomloan Road end and, if anything impressed him, it can only have been the noise at kick-off. Even that could not be sustained. It was not much of a contest from the moment that Maciej Zurawski took advantage of woeful defending — and there was plenty of that from Rangers — to grab an eleventh-minute lead.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos was comically bad and Marvin Andrews not much better as Rangers tried, unsuccessfully, to grapple with John Hartson. It was more WWE than SPL, although Celtic can be excused. Organised and disciplined, they did what they had to do. It was just disappointing that it amounted to so little.

There had been a lot of debate as to how Strachan would accommodate Neil Lennon, Stilian Petrov and Keane. In the end he made the politically astute, and tactically justifiable, decision to play all three.

Keane talked afterwards of “respecting your manager and your team-mates if you are left out” — Carlos Queiroz might have chuckled at that one given the Irishman’s withering blast on his way out of Old Trafford — but there was nothing of the new boy about him aside from a willingness early on to let Lennon take charge.

As the game progressed, Keane became the more dominant member of the partnership and, by the second half, team-mates were feeling the lash of his tongue. “You wouldn’t want him to change the way he is,” Lennon said. “His shouting gets a reaction. It is up to you whether it is positive or not.”

Strachan also talked of a wider influence at the club. “When I left the training ground the other day, Dion Dublin and Roy Keane were sitting and talking to a group of 16 to 18-year-olds about the players they have come across, the games they have played,” the Celtic manager said. “The young lads were hanging off every word. That is what you don’t see.”

Keane is due to complete his Pro licence this summer, although he is expected to see out his 18-month playing contract before heading into management. By then, Rangers may have been transformed. Paul Le Guen, the man who built Lyons into a serious force in Europe, has been house hunting in Glasgow. There was a seat yesterday for Yves Colleu, his assistant.

The competitor in Keane will relish the threat of a resurgent Rangers as satisfying as victory must have been on his Old Firm debut.
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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2006, 06:18:33 PM »
lord, i hope mr rooney is not licking his chops.  has anyone seen rangers play lately?  this writer described the defending as "comically bad"

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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2006, 07:55:26 PM »
well it must be for a champions league club to sit 4th in the SPL  :'( i just hope they get goin and scape the 2nd

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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2006, 08:15:09 PM »
and somebody was saying earlier that Dog could handle Hartson..steups
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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 08:51:10 AM »
Imagine Rooney and Owens running against Andrews and Tallest... hope d twin towers doh break dey ankles.

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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 03:50:19 PM »
and somebody was saying earlier that Dog could handle Hartson..steups

Trinidadian who aint know nothing always talkin up in they backside. Yuh aint know that Feliziano? With all due respect to we players and Yorke in particular who was once a renown player in europe, Trinidad and Togabo do not have any class, lethal, well known, player that playing in any top top league and doing big things around the world.

I seeing man comparing we players with Roy Keane, Roy Rooney, Christian Ronaldo, and i just saying....Trinidadians who aint know much just like to jump around and talk. :rotfl:

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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 06:46:39 PM »
yuh have to have faith in we players man i bet u somebody in de tnt squad go make ah name for heself in de WC.....

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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 07:27:50 PM »
These Times writers really sticking it to Dog boy.

The Sunday Times    February 12, 2006

Time to put Keane on centre stage
CRAIG BURLEY
Gordon Strachan has a tough call to make, but the Irishman should be given Neil Lennon’s midfield place
Two big players, two big egos, one big position and a big decision for Gordon Strachan. Both Roy Keane and Neil Lennon expect to play in the Old Firm game and one of them is not going to be happy this morning. Keane, for the first time since he arrived in Glasgow, is ready to challenge for a regular place in the team. Lennon’s place, to be precise. Strachan’s choice today will set the pecking order for the rest of the season. Whoever starts on the bench can consider himself back up, possibly for the rest of his Parkhead career.

There are ways for the Celtic manager to play both veterans. It keeps them happy but the team loses its balance in the reshuffle. And I don’t think that is Strachan’s style, so I think this is where he sends out a message by putting the team first. It should be a straight choice and it’s a simple one, too. Lennon has been a very good player, Keane has been a great one.

Either side of his transfer from Nottingham Forest to Manchester United, Keane was the best box-to-box midfielder in Britain. At Old Trafford he became a more dominant, complete player, but the defensive role he has learned towards the end of his career is not his natural game. His instinct to drive forward gives his game a dimension that Lennon just doesn’t have. Lennon cleans up in front of the defence and does it very well, but Keane could do that job all day in Scotland. Against Falkirk in midweek he also got the breakthrough goal. Lennon’s goals per game ratio is a little under one in 100.

The big difference is the competitive edge that has defined Keane’s career. Lennon is a vital player for Celtic when things are going well, but when they are not he gets dragged down with the team. Keane is capable of changing a game, of dragging his team out of the jaws of defeat, through his leadership or through a tackle, a 30-yard run or a goal. He has sat on the bench watching players who could not have laced his boots when he was in his prime struggle through games such as the 3-3 draw against Dundee United or the CIS Cup win over Motherwell. He came here to play and there is no game he will want to play in more than this.

Someone will get hurt. That’s how it works and I’ve been there. You are upset and embarrassed when you get dropped for the big ones. It’s almost as tough for the managers, they struggle to get the words out. It won’t be easy for Strachan but this is a test of his strength of management, something I believe he has plenty of. If the title was on the line then this would be an even bigger deal for him, but whatever team Strachan goes with, he will be making a statement.

The only statement either Old Firm defence seems capable of making is an admission of guilt. This derby, despite an 18-point gap between the teams, could still go either way for that reason. Whichever defence gets its act together wins.

It’s more critical for Rangers as they can’t rely on their forwards to get them out of trouble. Their biggest problem is Marvin Andrews, a defender who gets caught in the same position over and over. The goal Ivan Sproule scored for Hibs in the Scottish Cup last week flagged this up. A simple long ball was flicked on by Garry O’Connor against Sotirios Kyrgiakos. Andrews was caught on his heels with no idea what was going on around him.and didn’t see Sproule darting round him to make it 2-0.

It was almost a mirror image of Chris Sutton’s goal in Celtic’s 2-1 Scottish Cup win at Parkhead last season. Then it was John Hartson against Zura Khizanishvili in the air and Andrews failed to react to Sutton’s run, enabling the striker to move in for the finish. Andrews doesn’t have this game awareness, and against quality attackers with pace he struggles.

Celtic can exploit this weakness by going direct to Hartson. The Welshman will win his fair share of flick-ons and then the second Rangers centre-back has to cope with the runs of Stilian Petrov, Shaun Maloney and Maciej Zurawski.

If Andrews is attacking the ball with Hartson, Rangers have a chance. That is what he is very good at. But if Andrews has to track the runs of fast, intelligent forwards Celtic will get chances. It’s a great option to have if their passing game is not working.

If Rangers get it right at the back they know they will get chances of their own. The problem is getting the right combination up front to make the most of them. Thomas Buffel and Peter Lovenkrands clicked as a partnership as Rangers recovered in December and January. Buffel dropped off the front, defenders followed him and Barry Ferguson or Buffel himself could release the ball into the space created for Lovenkrands to run on to. Kris Boyd is a different kind of forward, he’s not going anywhere until the ball is in the box and that space is not there higher up the pitch. Boyd will get you goals but he needs service from out wide.

Rangers’ best hope is Chris Burke, their in-form winger. He can exploit Celtic’s week left-back area and give Boyd a chance against a central defence that is every bit as vulnerable as his own. A prediction? Don’t bet on 0-0.
   
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Re: Rooney scouted "Dog" today
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 08:23:45 PM »
yuh have to have faith in we players man i bet u somebody in de tnt squad go make ah name for heself in de WC.....

I love we players yuh know dan....i have faith in plenty of them. But ah also realistic and ah know we cannot compare we players to big guns like roy keane and wayne rooney!! yuh c meh? :beermug:


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